Do you feel like you have an accurate understanding of how God’s final work of restoration will take place?
Have you ever deeply searched and deconstructed all of the major prophecies about the Marvelous Work to connect all of the available dots?
Have you looked for similar themes as well as for unique components to construct a composite template of the end times scenario?
Doing so might result in greater clarity of how things will emerge. It will also provide greater context for discerning the false teachers and prophets in our midst.
I am inviting you to do a scripture study with me of the four part prophetic sequence of this important prophetic event.
Dust off the your sticks and join with me in reviewing the major prophecies about how God’s servant will PROCEED to bring forth the words of those who have slept in the dust.
Join with me in reviewing how God’s servant will obtain the record of the Nephites AGAIN along with additional records.
LDS apologist John Gee has written an article at the Mormon Interpreter about the Song of the Vineyard that is contained in Isaiah 5.
It is titled:
“Not Just Sour Grapes: Jesus’s Interpretation of Isaiah’s Song of the Vineyard”
I have not harassed those folks over there for months now and I know they must really miss my comments so I attempted to post a comment a few hours ago.
It is looking like they may begin blocking my comments again so I figured I would simply post it on this blog.
After all, my readers are much more intelligent, well informed and good looking than theirs anyway, so there.
Here is the comment that I posted. (I am assuming you all have Isaiah 5 memorized which is why I am not posting it for context. If that is not the case, please dust your sticks off and read chapter 5 of Isaiah BEFORE reading my comments below
In your article you said, “Isaiah’s Song of the Vineyard takes up the first seven verses of the fifth chapter. It is a sad song, detailing the problems in Israel toward the end of the eighth century BC.
While it may very well be detailing problems in Israel toward the end of the eighth century, it is important to remember the words of Christ that he spake shortly after his crucifixion, regarding the words of Isaiah. “all things that he spake have been and shall be”
All of his words had a dual fulfillment, about the past and the future from when he spake to the Nephites in 3rd Nephi. (3 Nephi 23 :3)
This means that there has been, or will be, a repeat of this narrative in the latter days.
While we can certainly learn from the mistakes of ancient Israel, perhaps learning from the mistakes of modern Israel would be even more beneficial to us.
Modern revelation reveals that the saints of the LDS restoration represented modern Israel. (D&C 103:17)
If we view the tragic events of the Kirtland era, we might find some interesting parallels with what happened to ancient Israel per the song of the vineyard and additional commentary provided by Isaiah in Chapter 5;
For instance, the song notes the Lords vineyard built on a hill.
Kirtland is located south of the lake shore plain of Lake Erie and is situated on the higher elevations of the Allegheny Plateau.
Isaiah notes that Israel built a tower in its midst.
That happened via the Kirtland Temple.
Isaiah notes that the vineyard was cleared of stones and had “good vines planted” in it.
The first four years of the restoration were full of hope. Israel was being gathered. The keys of the priesthood were restored providing the authority to offer the saving ordinances, The LAW was received which incorporates the sermon on the mount and limits God’s law of marriage to that of taking just “one wife”.
It commands the saints to live the law of “consecration” to take care of the poor and needy. During these early years in the Lord’s vineyard the Lord showered knowledge upon the saints with the Book of Mormon and the vast majority of the revelations that we have in the D&C. ( The Book of Mormon warned against involvement in secret combinations with secret oaths.)
All of this took place during the early years prior to the Lord proclaiming that the leaders and members of the church had become condemned in 1834.
What more could the Lord have done for his vineyard?
Of course, he hoped that the “good vines” that he planted in his vineyard would bring forth grapes.
But it brought forth sour grapes.
Because of this, the Lord declared that he would take away the hedge of protection from the vineyard
“I, the Lord, will to retain a strong hold in the land of Kirtland, for the space of five years.”
Per the revelation, the priesthood hedge of protection was removed on September 11, 1836.
Within a few years, after the priesthood hedge was removed, Joseph and Sidney fled Kirtland in the dark of night.
Most of the saints relocated shortly thereafter, migrating to other places. They became “scattered and dispersed.”
The saints had failed in their attempt at consecration.
the Lord informed them that they would not be able to live celestial law for a little season.
Kirtland had become desolate and the Kirtland temple eventually had farm animals living in it. A spiritual and temporal desolation fell upon Kirtland
Fast forward to the Nauvoo era.
In Nauvoo, many of the saints were putting their interests and resources towards involvement in Masonry and building a Masonic temple when they should have been anxiously building the Lords house.
They had been warned not to get involved in secret orders with secret oaths patterned after the oath between Satan and Cain.
A new marital principle of multiple wives was being introduced even though it was contrary to the LAW that had been given.
Isaiah exclaims “they have cast away the law of the Lord”!
The saints began calling evil things good and good things evil just as Isaiah observed.
Isaiah declares “woe unto them that …say let them make speed and hasten his work”
That admonition took place repeatedly among the saints.
John, your following statement is harsh but profound:
Church members are to discern true from false prophets by their works — though both will claim, and probably think, they are doing the will of God — but it is at the final judgment that the false prophets will discover, to their horror, that they were not doing the will of God after all.
Thankfully the song and the commentary by Isaiah has a happy ending.
Despite a chastisement that leaves many of the carcases of the saints strewn upon ground between Nauvoo and Utah, Gods arm is stretched out still.
He will eventually lift up an ensign and gather the nations from afar
[Editorial Note: I just got an explanation from MormonInterpreter moderator, Brant Gardner as to why my comments were blocked
The parallels between the narrative in Isaiah 5 and LDS church history are simply remarkable and undeniable.
They are instructive and worthy of mention.
The fact that you have a differing opinion on how to interpret the “shall and will be” passage in the Book of Mormon is really quite irrelevant. I am sure your opinion often differs with regard to some of the interpretive suppositions in the various articles and comments of your brethren over at the Interpreter, but you don’t block their right to share their views.
Your readers are adults. They are free agents to think for themselves. If my views don’t hold water they have the right to exercise their own discernment.
You really don’t need to protect anyone from themselves or from me Grant.
You really don’t need to be captain of the world.
Allow free speech and freedom of thought. Allow differing views to be judged in the market place of ideas.. You will probably sleep better at night.
Just based on the amazing parallels the observations should be given voice.
Because of sickness and the holiday season, I have taken somewhat of a break from blogging in general and more specifically regarding this series on the claims of Mauricio Berger.
That is not to say that I have not been engaged in this fascinating story of deception.
To me, the bizarre storyline coming from Brazil reads like a comedy of doctrinal and prophecy related errors
This narrative begins by informing us that the location for the beginning of the last great work, has now been relocated from the promised covenant land of America, to a foreign land because God cannot find one righteous Gentile to work with.
The claim is that-
“There is no leader among latter day Israel with a pure heart”
Since when does God require a pure heart when calling someone to his work?
Never mind the fact that historically, God almost always picks sinners to do his work.
Noah was a wine-bibber. Moses sinned before the Lord and was prevented from crossing over the Jordan river. Jonah ran and hid after being called to his missionary assignment. Peter denied knowing Christ three times. Paul was going a round persecuting Christians and consenting to their executions.
Why didn’t God find more righteous people to do his work?
Probably because there weren’t any “righteous” people to choose from.
God deals with the human condition and eventually makes new creatures out of sinful men. That is the miraculous message of his mystical gospel.
Joseph Smith, by his own admission, was contemplating selling the golden plates for his own personal gain with the desire to pull his destitute family out of their dire circumstances.
Mauricio is Righteous?
Luckily, the righteous Mauricio Berger is here to save the day since there are no righteous gentiles. We don’t know a lot about Mauricio, however the scant storyline that has emerged does reveal the following things:
That seems to be a standard of righteousness that we degenerate gentiles can realistically seek to, during this time of hidden darkness.
I don’t fault Mauricio for being human. I simply question the claim that he is righteous and has a pure heart.
God has Called Another People
One of the many claims made by these folks is that God has raised up another people to do his work since there are no righteous gentiles.
I suspect that claim is derived from a passage in Section 100 of the D&C given in October of 1833 wherein the Lord says:
“For I will raise up unto myself a pure people what will serve me in righteousness”
Some people have used that passage in the past to suggest that the wicked Gentile saints of the restoration failed to establish Zion and therefore God would bring in another, more humble and righteous tribal demographic to finish what those saints began.
However a contextual reading of the entire revelation shows a very different meaning of what was being said.
Just before making that pronouncement, the Lord had said,
“and now I give unto you a word concerning Zion. Zion shall be redeemed, although she is chastened for a little season”.
The term Zion in the above declaration was referring to the “people” of Zion not the “land” of Zion.
It was the people attempting to establish Zion that were being chastened for a season, not the land.
As you can see, the gentile saints were not being cast aside for another people, they were simply going to be chastised for a little season prior to their redemption as a Zion people.
The very next revelation given in December of 1833 provides greater clarity and assurance that God was allowing affliction to come upon the saints for a season because of their transgressions. Yet the promise was that ultimately, He would own them as His people:
1 Verily I say unto you, concerning your brethren who have been afflicted, and persecuted, and cast out from the land of their inheritance—
2 I, the Lord, have suffered the affliction to come upon them, wherewith they have been afflicted, in consequence of their transgressions;
3 Yet I will own them, and they shall be mine in that day when I shall come to make up my jewels.
4 Therefore, they must needs be chastened and tried, even as Abraham, who was commanded to offer up his only son.
9 Verily I say unto you, notwithstanding their sins, my bowels are filled with compassion towards them. I will not utterly cast them off; and in the day of wrath I will remember mercy.
Assurance was given that the gentile saints of the restoration were not being cast off:
9 Verily I say unto you, notwithstanding their sins, my bowels are filled with compassion towards them. I will not utterly cast them off; and in the day of wrath I will remember mercy.
These declarations by the Lord are very significant because Joseph F. Smith believes that the LDS restoration under Joseph Smith Jr. was a complete failure, requiring a new servant and a new work to take place. This is apparently one of the many issues that he and Bob Moore disagree with each other on.
According to some accounts that I have been made aware of, Joseph F. Smith believes that Joseph Smith and his associates totally failed and will not be given the opportunity to resume their prophetic commissions.
However Section 101 makes it clear that those that attempted to establish Zion would yet be gathered and redeemed in the third watch when the Lords work proceeds to come forth. Those saints who were scattered from the land of Zion will yet be gathered and after being gathered in the third watch, will not be moved out of their place. Section 101 continues:
17 Zion shall not be moved out of her place, notwithstanding her children are scattered.
18 They that remain, and are pure in heart, shall return, and come to their inheritances, they and their children, with songs of everlasting joy, to build up the waste places of Zion—
19 And all these things that the prophets might be fulfilled.
Those prophetic pronouncements above are consistent with the prophecies in the Book of Daniel that reveal that the kingdom of God that would be established in the latter days, through the instrumentality of the prophet Joseph Smith-
“shall not be destroyed, and the kingdom shall not be left to other people” (Dan 2:44)
Clearly, the keys of the kingdom of God that the Lord restored to the earth during Joseph Smith’s ministry were used to establish the kingdom of God on earth.
That kingdom is the same kingdom that the Book of Daniel prophesies of.
It is the same kingdom that will roll forth and fill the whole earth during the final restoration in the third watch.
The prophetic prayer documented in section 65 speaks of the return of the kingdom that Joseph Smith established nearly 200 years ago.
1 Hearken, and lo, a voice as of one sent down from on high, who is mighty and powerful, whose going forth is unto the ends of the earth, yea, whose voice is unto men—Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.
2 The keys of the kingdom of God are committed unto man on the earth, and from thence shall the gospel roll forth unto the ends of the earth, as the stone which is cut out of the mountain without hands shall roll forth, until it has filled the whole earth.
3 Yea, a voice crying—Prepare ye the way of the Lord, prepare ye the supper of the Lamb, make ready for the Bridegroom.
4 Pray unto the Lord, call upon his holy name, make known his wonderful works among the people.
5 Call upon the Lord, that his kingdom may go forth upon the earth, that the inhabitants thereof may receive it, and be prepared for the days to come, in the which the Son of Man shall come down in heaven, clothed in the brightness of his glory, to meet the kingdom of God which is set up on the earth.
6 Wherefore, may the kingdom of God go forth, that the kingdom of heaven may come, that thou, O God, mayest be glorified in heaven so on earth, that thine enemies may be subdued; for thine is the honor, power and glory, forever and ever. Amen.
As you can see, the above prayer is speaking about the future rolling forth of the kingdom that Daniel saw and it is verifying that the keys to that kingdom had already been committed to men on the earth during Joseph Smith’s ministry.
The fact that the kingdom that Daniel saw was established during Joseph’s ministry is is verified once again in the dedicatory prayer of the Kirtland Temple.
72 Remember all thy church, O Lord, with all their families, and all their immediate connections, with all their sick and afflicted ones, with all the poor and meek of the earth; that the kingdom, which thou hast set up without hands, may become a great mountain and fill the whole earth;
73 That thy church may come forth out of the wilderness of darkness, and shine forth fair as the moon, clear as the sun, and terrible as an army with banners;
74 And be adorned as a bride for that day when thou shalt unveil the heavens, and cause the mountains to flow down at thy presence, and the valleys to be exalted, the rough places made smooth; that thy glory may fill the earth;
After acknowledging that the kingdom Daniel speaks of that is “set up without hands” had already been set up during Joseph’s ministry, we are informed that it would be a future event when it would BECOME a great mountain and fill the whole earth. Indeed, the Lord’s true church must once again “come forth out of the wilderness of darkness” even after being restore during Joseph’s last ministry.
Other reveleations, including Section 90 verify that those keys were to remain with Joseph Smith in this world and in the world to come. According to that revelation, when God proceeds to bring forth his word again, Joseph will once again bring forth the word and Sidney will take the word to the nations of the earth.
9 That through [Joseph Smith’s] administration [Sidney Rigdon and Frederick G. Williams] they may receive the word, and through their administration the word may go forth unto the ends of the earth, unto the Gentiles first, and then, behold, and lo, they shall turn unto the Jews.
10 And then cometh the day when the arm of the Lord shall be revealed in power in convincing the nations, the heathen nations, the house of Joseph, of the gospel of their salvation.
11 For it shall come to pass in that day, that every man shall hear the fulness of the gospel in his own tongue, and in his own language, through those who are ordained unto this power, by the administration of the Comforter, shed forth upon them for the revelation of Jesus Christ.
According to the inspired prayer in Section 65, the Lord will send forth his mighty and powerful servant to prepare the way of the Lord when the final work begins.
In the inspired prayer, we are admonished to
“Call upon the Lord, that his kingdom may go forth upon the earth, that the inhabitants thereof may receive it”
Of course those passages mean very little to Mauricio, Joseph or Bob as they seem to be oblivious to the literal fulfillment of the prophesies in the D&C.
More on that later.
Contacted by an Insider
Shortly after doing my last blog post on this series, I was contacted by an insider that lives in Missouri and is privy to much of what is going on regarding the claims of Mauricio Berger. This informant has provided me with some very interesting background information pertaining to Mauricio, Joseph F. Smith, and Bob Moore.
This informant has requested anonymity for reasons I am not at liberty to expose. Further, they have limited what I can share on this blog.
Their reasons for wanting to remain anonymous are justified in my opinion so I will just bite my tongue regarding who they are and some of the information that I have in my possession. However, some of the information can be shared and it sheds important light on the motivation of these people.
One of the things that this informant shared with me is the fact that ever since Joseph F. Smith was a very small child, he has been taught by his parents that he has a very important role to play in the final events of the end times.
As a result of this indoctrination, Elder Smith has spent much of his adult life jumping around between the various RLDS congregations and factions looking for people that would listen to him and accept him as a credible end times servant.
Because of this obsessive quest, a great hardship has been experienced by his wife and family who have been forced to move over 40 times and have struggled financially.
I don’t necessarily find that information problematic. Some might find it admirable that Elder Smith is so passionate about his perceived calling from the Lord.
This information simply provides context and possibly shines a light on motivation, be they good or misled.
There is much more information that provides insight as to why Joseph and bob are so invested in Mauricio’s story. I suspect that much more information will eventually come forth.
If the information from my informant is true, it doesn’t really prove anything conclusively, however it may provide context as to why Bob and Joseph F. Smith could so easily be deceived by a foreign congregation that is willing to hold him up as a light unto the world.
Again, I have additional information from the informant. Some of it will be discussed later, some I cannot divulge.
I Have Communicated Directly with Bob Moore
In addition to the information I have been given by the informant in Missouri, I also felt impressed to contact Bob Moore and invite him to personally respond to some of my concerns and criticisms which he graciously agreed to do.
He and I have had an interesting discussion thus far.
To his credit, he is willing to openly engage directly with his critics.
This was his response when I invited him to dialogue with me and respond to my criticisms:
Now that is refreshing!
I take my hat off to him for having the courage and integrity and transparency to respond to my criticisms.
It is not easy to respond to skeptics who are challenging something that you believe to be sacred and true and holding your feet to the fire with the scriptures.
I am reminded of the public invitation I extended to Denver Snuffer to engage with me in a public dialogue back when he began his deception. Sadly, he refused the invitation and simply chose to mock me and belittle the fact that I chose to blog anonymously. This was his response to my upcoming rebuttal-
I received two emails notifying me there is a man, woman, child, or committee who is now getting ready to do a “rebuttal” to Passing the Heavenly Gift. It can be found at: https://onewhoiswatching.wordpress.com/2013/09/23/an-evening-in-boise-with-denver-snuffer-part-one/
Normally I would just dismiss someone who lacks the courage to stand up for what they write by identifying themselves…
Interestingly, his movement now allows his disciples to respond anonymously in their Snufferite forums, blogs and website and even publishes revelations on the Internet from anonymous Snufferite revelators LOL.
Sharing Our Correspondence
I have asked Bob Moore if I could provide the exact transcript of our dialogue on this blog which I think would be interesting and informative to my readers. It has been a few weeks and he has not yet responded to that request. Since he has not expressly asked me not to, I will take the liberty of providing a few direct quotes. Since he has thus far declined to give me express permission, I will not provide the exact transcript in full, unless I hear from him and get permission.
Why Do You Deny Revelation?
One of the things I asked Bob Moore is why he did not believe the unconditional prophecies would come to pass that are contained in the revelations that Joseph Smith brought forth. Here is my question to him:
We are informed in scripture that God has all time, past, present and future continually before his eyes and therefore he has seen what we consider to be the FUTURE. We are also informed that he cannot and does not lie.
Hence, when God makes an unconditional promise and prophecy about a future event, it will come true.
Because of these beliefs about the nature and character of God, and the fact that never has to “guess” or “predict” the future because he has a perfect knowledge of what is going to happen in the future, I believe everything he says about the future.
As I am sure you are aware, God has declared unconditionally multiple times in the revelations, that Joseph Smith Jr. and his brethren will be the ones to return and seal up the wicked, establish Zion, and finish his work regarding the bringing forth of the sealed portion.
Please see the following post for no less than sixteen revelatory declarations that Joseph Smith Jr. will return to complete his ministry
Sixteen Prophetic Evidences
So my first question for you is, why don’t you take the scriptures literally? Why don’t you believe the unconditional promises that God has given to us about Joseph Smith holding the keys of the priesthood in life and in death and in his promised return to complete his calling? If God’s word in the Doctrine and Covenants is true, Mauricio’s story cannot be true.
Bob’s initial reply was very disappointing to me because he says his beliefs are scientifically based rather than religiously based. Here is what he said:
I believe, as you do, that God knows all things and reveals them to men’s understanding. Often people misinterpret His revelations, but when the are fulfilled, people see how precisely He did what he said.
I suppose that the best way to describe my view is that I tend to embrace the multiverse concept that this world is a hologram of the spiritual world, which spiritual world lies outside time and from which our universe burst forth as it expanded outward from that big bang.
It comes from the implications of this sole verse found in Joseph’s New Translation: “And there appeared a great sign in heaven, in the likeness of things on the earth” (Rev 12:1).
God certain exists outside time. He can see and hold all things. And in His love and mercy foretells what is in our future that people might believe in Him and His Son.
Strangely enough, after providing the mental gymnastics above about the multiverse and holographic spiritual world and big bang, etc., as to why the prophecies about Joseph Smith returning will not necessarily literally come to pass exactly as stated, he did acknowledge a belief that Joseph Smith Jr. has a future role :
I believe that Joseph Smith, Jr. has a future role in the culmination of God’s latter-day work. While I am aware of some of the sources you mention, my primary reason is an experience that Alexander had. I am attaching a copy below in case you do not know about it.
Alexander Smith had a prophetic dream in which he was visited by his father Joseph and his uncle Hyrum. Here is what Joseph and Hyrum said to Alexander:
“We are going away. We will be gone for a season, but we will return again”
I guess I need to change my paper from “Sixteen Prophetic Evidences” to “Seventeen Prophetic Evidences“.
The Three Witnesses
For those that do believe in the literal fulfillment of the unconditional promises in the D&C, it is interesting to note that the three witnesses that were identified during Joseph Smith’s first ministry to testify of the gold plates and the Book of Mormon were promised that they would return to the earth to play a profound role in the Marvelous Work:
And by your hands I will work a marvelous work among the children of men, unto the convincing of many of their sins, that they may come unto repentance, and that they may come unto the kingdom of my Father D&C 1:44
Those familiar with and who believe the revelations, realize that the “Marvelous Work” did not begin during Joseph’s last ministry. The “great work” was yet future (see D&C 35:7 as just one of many contextual evidences) The marvelous work does not begin until the final restoration in the third watch.
Joseph F. Smith Becomes the Poster Child of a new Movement
The picture below shows Mauricio Berger sitting next to Joseph F. Smith during Joseph and Bob’s visit to Brazil. Little did Joseph F. Smith realize that he was going to become the poster child for a seasoned deception that had failed to pick up any traction for over 10 years.
This picture was placed on facebook and used to generate publicity for Mauricio’s claims.
It was hoped that the historic visit and endorsement of Elder Joseph F. Smith would provide much needed credibility to the claims of Mauricio Berger and help to jumpstart the conversion of new believers in Brazil to Mauricio’s new religious movement.
Shortly after Seventy Bob Moore and Elder Joseph F. Smith left Brazil, Mauricio invited about 40 members of the local LDS Stake to a meeting to learn more about the visit of Moroni, the upcoming translation of the sealed book, and the endorsement of Joseph Smith Jr.’s purest priesthood descendent.
Foiled by the Evil Mormons!
Unfortunately, for Mauricio, the local leaders of the LDS stake learned about the meeting and quickly scheduled several very important meetings of their own on the same night.
Additionally, they put out a blood chilling warning to the members of their stake that any members of the church that attended the meeting would be excommunicated from God’s true church.
At least, that is what I am told by Seventy Bob Moore..
Needless to say, the meeting had a very poor turn out and Mauricio’s latest attempt to gain traction was foiled.
You may be wondering why Mauricio was targeting Mormons to share his angel experience with instead of Protestants and Catholics.
After all, he had had very little connection with Mormonism prior to this time, right?
To adequately address that curiosity we need to back up and review the testimonies of Seventy Moore and Elder Smith, who initially assured everyone multiple times that Mauricio had not previously been a member of the LDS church. According to what they stated or at least strongly implied, Mauricio had never been a Mormon.
During the Q&A the audience was assured by Smith and Moore that Mauricio’s movement was completely organic. It all started out with Mauricio innocently “looking for answers”.
My informant from Missouri begs to differ.
Here is a snippet from one of their emails to me:
I have talked to the individual who contacted me. He has been corresponding with the man who was with Mauricio in the beginning. Apparently, it is true that Mauricio was indeed a baptized, temple attending, member of the LDS church.
According to this man, Jader, who had not been a member long, Mauricio approached him and said he had gold plates. He asked Jader to go with him on Christmas day in 2008, to a hill to pray.
While they were praying these three men came to them. When they left Mauricio told him that they were Peter, James, and John. Some time after, Mauricio told Jader he should go to the Bishop and tell him about the plates and that he had seen the angel Moroni.
Jader refused and has ever since claimed that there was never an angel that he had seen. Shortly after this Mauricio was excommunicated. Jader is now in the Bishopric. So there you have it, Mauricio was a member of the church indeed.
I assumed that Seventy Bob Moore would be shocked when confronted with this information about Mauricio’s previous involvement in Mormonism.
To my surprise and disappointment, he was not.
He already knew that Mauricio had previously been a card carrying, temple going member of the LDS church who had been excommunicated for his bizarre claims about the angel and the plates.
This was extremely disappointing to me.
I do not know for sure when Bob became aware of Mauricio’s previous membership in the Mormon church, but it doesn’t appear as if he has publicly corrected the misinformation that he and Joseph F. Smith and Mauricio have perpetuated.
This was Bob’s response when I confronted him about Mauricio being an excommunicated Mormon:
I also admit that I was saddened to learn that Mauricio had withheld the fact that he had been a member in the LDS Church. I am circumspect in my personal and business dealings and believe that he should have been transparent when he contacted us. He was fearful, instead. I will not condemn him because I do not think that he was trying to be deceptive.
Mauricio testifies that he withdrew from the LDS church, but that they did not accept his resignation and subsequently tried and excommunicated him. Since I dislike the LDS hierarchy and have been rebuffed by it while working with Joseph F, I am inclined to accept his explanation.
Mauricio was not trying to be deceptive?
What was he trying to be?
During my correspondence with Seventy Moore, I asked him how in the world he and Joseph could invest the time and money to visit Mauricio without doing some serious due diligence and getting the facts strait about Mauricio’s involvement in Mormonism.
I asked him why he did not take the time to question local leaders of the Mormon Church to find out if they were familiar with Mauricio and his angel story.
I asked him why he and Joseph did not ask Mauricio five different times in five different ways if he had been a member of the Mormon Church.
I asked him how in the world he and Joseph could have been so naïve and trusting without searching out the facts.
It became obvious to me that Joseph and Bob had already accepted Mauricio’s story hook line and sinker BEFORE they ever got on the plane to visit him in Brazil. They wanted the story to be true so badly, that they had blinders on when they went to meet with Mauricio.
Here is one of his comments to me
When Joseph and I receive the initial communications from Mauricio, we asked the Lord if what he said about the experiences that we had were true. Each of us separately received confirmation that they were true. Because of those verifications, we did not look further
In my opinion, this is a text-book example of two people who did not want to be bothered with the facts because they wanted the story to be true.
There is a reason why Paul admonishes us to “prove all things, hold fast to that which is good“.
There is a reason why the Lord chastised Oliver Cowdery for asking a question before studying things out in his mind.
A Spirit of Deep Sleep
In 2nd Nephi 27 the Lord informs us how the marvelous work will go forth as God’s true servant proceeds, again, to bring forth more words from the mysterious book (plates)
One of the very important declarations that is made in that chapter is that because the saints of the restoration had previously transgressed, God covered the eyes of his seers and placed a “spirit of deep sleep” on the entire world, both Jew and Gentile.
That spirit of deep sleep stays on the world from the time the fullness was rejected, until the word begins to come forth again from God’s servant.
This is just one more of many evidences that I have provided to show that the heavens have been sealed and will continue to be sealed until God’s true servant begins bringing forth the word from the plates again.
This is why I have repeated warned against ALL of the delusionary people who are claiming to have pierced the veil of unbelief and conversed with God during this time when the spirit of deep sleep has been placed upon EVERYBODY, both Jew and Gentile.
1 But, behold, in the last days, or in the days of the Gentiles—yea, behold all the nations of the Gentiles and also the Jews, both those who shall come upon this land and those who shall be upon other lands, yea, even upon all the lands of the earth, behold, they will be drunken with iniquity and all manner of abominations…
For behold, all ye that doeth iniquity, stay yourselves and wonder, for ye shall cry out, and cry; yea, ye shall be drunken but not with wine, ye shall stagger but not with strong drink.
For behold, the Lord hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep. For behold, ye have closed your eyes, and ye have rejected the prophets; and your rulers, and the seers hath he covered because of your iniquity.
And it shall come to pass that the Lord God shall bring forth unto you the words of a book, and they shall be the words of them which have slumbered.
As you can see, at the time when the book containing the words of those who have slumbered begins to come forth in the 3rd watch, EVERYONE, both Jew and Gentile will be in darkness and apostasy. The Lord will have put the spirit of deep sleep over them prior to the beginning of the Marvelous.
It is because of this spirit of deep sleep that so many people today are so gullible and so easily deceived by false prophets and false teachers.
“I WILL DELIVER THEM UP UNTO SATAN”
In one of the earliest revelations to come through Joseph Smith the Lord gave an ominous warning to the saints of the LDS restitution.
And thus, if the people of this generation harden not their hearts, I will work a reformation among them, and I will put down all lyings, and deceivings, and priestcrafts, and envyings, and strifes, and idolatries, and sorceries, and all manner of iniquities, and I will establish my church, like unto the church which was taught by my disciples in the days of old.
And now if this generation do harden their hearts against my word, behold I WILL DELIVER THEM UP UNTO SATAN, for he reigneth and hath power at this time, for he hath got great hold upon the hearts of the people of this generation: and not far from the iniquities of Sodom and Gomorrah, do they come at this time: and behold the sword of justice hangeth over their heads, and if they persist in the hardness of their hearts, the time cometh that it must fall upon them.
Many Old Testament prophets also prophesied that God would deliver his latter day saints over to Satan and given them delusions.
In Isaiah 66 the Lord prophesied that latter day Israel would delight in their abominations and therefore God would give them delusions:
Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations. I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.
A similar prophetic observation was made by Paul when he prophesied about the falling away of the saints of the restored church in the latter days.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Those who take the scriptures lightly and reject the unconditional promises and prophecies in them have not received the love of the truth. Because of this they have been given strong delusion from God.
After the saints of the restoration rejected the fullness of the Gospel in 1834, God placed a “strong delusion” upon them. Every offshoot of Mormonism that chose to believe someone who clamed the authority to teach or prophesy were guilty of violating the law that was given in Section 43.
Regardless of whether it was the teachings of Brigham Young, James Strang, Joseph Smith the 3rd, or anyone else claiming to have received the mantle of authority from Joseph Smith Jr., those who followed these people, chose to receive a lie despite the following warning that had been given in Section 43:
3 And this ye shall know assuredly—that there is none other appointed unto you to receive commandments and revelations until he be taken, if he abide in me.
4 But verily, verily, I say unto you, that none else shall be appointed unto this gift except it be through him; for if it be taken from him he shall not have power except to appoint another in his stead.
5 And this shall be a law unto you, that ye receive not the teachings of any that shall come before you as revelations or commandments;
6 And this I give unto you that you may not be deceived, that you may know they are not of me.
7 For verily I say unto you, that he that is ordained of me shall come in at the gate and be ordained as I have told you before, to teach those revelations which you have received and shall receive through him whom I have appointed.
The only people documented to have come in through the gate and to have been appointed by the Lord through Joseph Smith, were either killed or rejected by the Saints, ie., Hyrum Smith and Sidney Rigdon.
Have you accepted the teachings of anyone that did not get the commission from God directly through Joseph Smith?
Have you accepted the revelations or teachings of Brigham Young, James Strang, Joseph Smith the 3rd, Mauricio Berger or Denver Snuffer?
If you have, you have rejected the warning given in Section 43 and you have not been given the love of the truth and you have been cursed with delusion.
“If He Abide in Me”
According to Joseph F. Smith, Mauricio says that the Angel Moroni says that Joseph F. Smith is to be the priesthood leader of the Brazilian branch until he dies.
And yet, as great a prophet as Joseph Smith Jr. was, he was not given that same categorical leadership promise.
The Lord declared that Joseph Smith Jr. was only appointed to lead and teach and give commandments and revelations as long as he abides in the Lord!
3 And this ye shall know assuredly—that there is none other appointed unto you to receive commandments and revelations until he be taken, if he abide in me.
There are at least four separate times in the D&C when the Lord warns the saints that Joseph Smith Jr. was fallible and could possibly stumble and fall from his calling.
If that was true with Joseph Smith Jr., why is it not true with Joseph F. Smith?
Is Joseph F. Smith really infallible?
Perhaps it is because he is a puppet instead of a leader. You see, even though he has been pronounced to be the designated priesthood leader, he gets his marching orders from Moroni through Mauricio.
Who is really in charge of the Movement?
Is the tail wagging the dog?
They had Already Made up Their Minds
It appears to me as if Joseph and Bob wanted to believe Mauricio’s story so badly that they did not want to prove the story against the cold hard facts, or to use the prophecies in the scriptures as a template for discerning the truthfulness of the claims being made.
They didn’t want to do any serious research and then study things out in their minds before asking the Lord if Mauricio was telling them the truth.
In the 14 chapter of Ezekiel the Lord informs us that he does not take kindly to those that offer up poorly thought out prayers that contradict what God has already declared.
He warns that if the Elders of Israel approach his servant and ask him to petition the Lord with a bullshit question, God will allow his servant to give them a bullshit answer.
Modern day Mormonism is built upon many lies that emerge as a result of violating the law given in Section 43 and of receiving bullshit answers to bullshit questions.
That is exactly what happened regarding the fabricated revelation on polygamy now known as Section 132. It begins with a bullshit question that contradicts what the Lord had already revealed in the Book of Mormon.
Look at the foundational question upon which the revelation was received:
1 Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you my servant Joseph, that inasmuch as you have inquired of my hand to know and understand wherein I, the Lord, justified my servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as also Moses, David and Solomon, my servants, as touching the principle and doctrine of their having many wives and concubines—
Where in the sam hill did that question come from?
The Lord had already revealed that David and Solomon WERE NOT JUSTIFIED in their practice of polygamy!!!!
15 And now it came to pass that the people of Nephi, under the reign of the second king, began to grow hard in their hearts, and indulge themselves somewhat in wicked practices, such as like unto David of old desiring many wives and concubines, and also Solomon, his son. Jacob 1:5
22 And now I make an end of speaking unto you concerning this pride. And were it not that I must speak unto you concerning a grosser crime, my heart would rejoice exceedingly because of you.
23 But the word of God burdens me because of your grosser crimes. For behold, thus saith the Lord: This people begin to wax in iniquity; they understand not the scriptures, for they seek to excuse themselves in committing whoredoms, because of the things which were written concerning David, and Solomon his son.
24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old. Jacob 2:22-24
Imagine how offensive to God it must be to have someone ask why David and Solomon were justified in practicing polygamy when God had already revealed through his latter day seer and the Book of Mormon that they were NOT justified in that practice!
The very act of asking that question was an act of blatantly rejecting the divinely inspired teachings of the Book of Mormon.
The Purest Priesthood
During the testimony of Joseph Smith the 3rd, he informs us that Mauricio was directed to him by Moroni because Joseph F. Smith has the purest priesthood, of all the living descendants of Joseph Smith Jr.:
One of the reasons why they requested me was because the angel [“Moroni”] told them that the Lord had preserved a portion of the priesthood from Joseph the Prophet, through Joseph III, and Alexander Hale Smith [his brother], and through my father, Arthur Smith, and to me. And this was the priesthood that the angel [“Moroni”] told him that was more (I can’t get the word) “pure.” I’ll put it that way.
Because of this pure priesthood, Joseph F. Smith was the one chosen to bestow priesthood authority and officiate in administering the saving ordinances when he visited the Brasilians.
Apparently, despite his brief training in Mormonism, Mauricio has not learned that the ordination of priesthood offices and the administration of the saving ordinances of the church requires PRIESTHOOD KEYS THAT ORDAIN MEN TO PRIESTHOOD OFFICES, NOT LINEAL PRIESTHOOD!
The pure patriarchal priesthood line of Joseph Smith Jr was clearly not adequate in bestowing priesthood and administering the saving ordinances of the gospel. If it had been, there would have been no need for the visitation from John the Baptist and the restoration of PRIESTHOOD KEYS as documented in Section 13.
1 Upon you my fellow servants, in the name of Messiah I confer the Priesthood of Aaron, which holds the keys of the ministering of angels, and of the gospel of repentance, and of baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; and this shall never be taken again from the earth, until the sons of Levi do offer again an offering unto the Lord in righteousness.
Even Joseph Smith Jr., who obviously had a more rich and pure line of lineal priesthood than his descendent Joseph F. Smith, had to have priesthood keys and a priesthood office bestowed upon him by an angel before he could begin ordaining other elders and baptizing people. This is priesthood 101.
It is understandable that this concept would be lost on Mauricio since he probably did not grow up in the church and probably had not been paying attention during priesthood meeting when he was a member, but how in the world did Joseph F. Smith and Bob Moore miss that one?
The Priesthood Keys Must be Returned by He Who Holds Them
As documented again and again on this blog, the saints of the restoration rejected the fullness of the gospel AFTER John the Baptist restored the priesthood. Eventually, those priesthood keys were taken from the earth.
In section 124 the Lord acknowledges that the fullness of the priesthood had been taken from the earth.
“..build a house to my name, for the Most High to dwell therein. For there is not a place found on earth that he may come to and restore again that which was lost unto you, or which he hath taken away, even the fulness of the priesthood.
The Lord warned the saints that if they did not repent and FINISH the Lord’s house, they would be rejected as a church with their dead.
But I command you, all ye my saints, to build a house unto me; and I grant unto you a sufficient time to build a house unto me; and during this time your baptisms shall be acceptable unto me.
But behold, at the end of this appointment your baptisms for your dead shall not be acceptable unto me; and if you do not these things at the end of the appointment ye shall be rejected as a church, with your dead, saith the Lord your God.
It is an undeniable historical fact that the saints did not repent of their abominations and they did not finish the temple.
God promised that if the saints were faithful, they would not be moved out of their place in Nauvoo, the cornerstone of Zion.
And if my people will hearken unto my voice, and unto the voice of my servants whom I have appointed to lead my people, behold, verily I say unto you, they shall not be moved out of their place.
But if they will not hearken to my voice, nor unto the voice of these men whom I have appointed, they shall not be blest, because they pollute mine holy grounds, and mine holy ordinances, and charters, and my holy words which I give unto them.
And it shall come to pass that if you build a house unto my name, and do not do the things that I say, I will not perform the oath which I make unto you, neither fulfil the promises which ye expect at my hands, saith the Lord.
For instead of blessings, ye, by your own works, bring cursings, wrath, indignation, and judgments upon your own heads, by your follies, and by all your abominations, which you practice before me, saith the Lord.
It is a historical fact that the saints were moved out of their place and they fled from Nauvoo after the martyrdom. Every splitter group that followed one of the false prophets and teachers were cursed with their own set of delusions.
The martyrdom of Joseph Smith, the possessor of the keys of the kingdom, and the rejection of the church with their dead, means that the priesthood keys that had been restored by Peter James and John would need to be restored to the earth again.
This would either require Joseph Smith Jr. to personally return, or angelic messengers would once again need to restore these keys to the earth.
Interestingly, the Lord wanted it placed in the public canonized record, that the keys that Joseph Smith held were the same keys of the kingdom of God that was coming forth for the last time.
Furthermore, those keys were to never be taken from Joseph in this world or in the world to come:
2 Therefore, thou art blessed from henceforth that bear the keys of the kingdom given unto you; which kingdom is coming forth for the last time.
3 Verily I say unto you, the keys of this kingdom shall never be taken from you, while thou art in the world, neither in the world to come;
4 Nevertheless, through you shall the oracles be given to another, yea, even unto the church.
5 And all they who receive the oracles of God, let them beware how they hold them lest they are accounted as a light thing, and are brought under condemnation thereby, and stumble and fall when the storms descend, and the winds blow, and the rains descend, and beat upon their house. (D&C 90)
Clearly, the storyline coming out of Brazil is inconsistent with some very basic prophetic doctrine about the events of the last days that has long since been established.
None of the claims being made from this latest movement are consistent with scripture.
“We are laying down our differences”
It is very strange that Joseph F. Smith and Bob Moore openly admit that they disagree with each other on doctrine and are simply choosing to not argue with each other over their differing beliefs.
Yet they report from Mauricio that Joseph Smith the 3rd was the fulfillment of the following prophecy found in 2nd Nephi 3 about the confounding of all false doctrines and bringing everyone to a doctrinal unity of the faith:
11 But a seer will I raise up out of the fruit of thy loins; and unto him will I give power to bring forth my word unto the seed of thy loins—and not to the bringing forth my word only, saith the Lord, but to the convincing them of my word, which shall have already gone forth among them.
12 Wherefore, the fruit of thy loins shall write; and the fruit of the loins of Judah shall write; and that which shall be written by the fruit of thy loins, and also that which shall be written by the fruit of the loins of Judah, shall grow together, unto the confounding of false doctrines and laying down of contentions, and establishing peace among the fruit of thy loins, and bringing them to the knowledge of their fathers in the latter days, and also to the knowledge of my covenants, saith the Lord.
The claim that Joseph Smith the 3rd had previously confounded all false doctrines, laid down contentions and established peace among the decendents of Joseph of Egypt is simply absurd.
First of all, the prophecy is stating that all of the descendants of Joseph of Egypt would be doctrinally unified, not just the paltry group of gentiles that joined the RLDS movement. This prophecy about the posterity of Joseph of Egypt coming into doctrinal unity would obviously include the seed of Lehi who never joined the RLDS sect and who are yet to be converted to the gospel en masse. Further, Joseph Smith the 3rd clearly did not bring the seed of Lehi to the knowledge of the Lord’s covenants!
To suggest that Joseph Smith the 3rd had globally united all of the believing descendants of Joseph of Egypt shows a remarkable delusion.
The icing on the cake is that the doctrinal unity of the faith among the RLDS did not last very long before the sect completely rejected the historicity of the Book of Mormon and the divine mission of Joseph Smith Jr.
Further, the two gentiles chosen to be witnesses of this new work cannot even agree with each other about doctrine!
Mauricio is Getting Ready to Translate the Sealed Portion?
Of all of the wild claims made from this new movement, perhaps the most ginormous slip up is the claim that Mauricio is getting ready to translate portions of the “sealed portion“.
Here are some direct quotes made by the leaders of this movement:
The Book of Mormon portion of the plates were on one side of the rings while the “sealed portion” was on the other side of the rings. After having made the distinction, it was represented that “A portion of the sealed portion will be translated.”
People who believe this testimony are invited to come together and the Lord will pour out his Spirit upon them. In the newsletter by Joseph Smith Ministries for November 2017, this statement is found: In the meantime, part of the sealed portion will be translated in Brazil. Those who gather in faith and unite around Joseph F. Smith’s testimony will be cleansed by the Spirit as they then learn to obey the celestial law. They will receive and publish part of the sealed portion. It will reveal all things to live in Zion, as well as be an ensign to gather the rest
The claim that Mauricio is getting ready to translate the sealed portion is the death nail to the claims of Mauricio Berger.
You see, anyone that is familiar with the prophecies pertaining to the sealed book in 2nd Nephi 27, realize that the contents of the sealed portion do not come forth until after the completion of the Marvelous Work. ( See 2nd Nephi 27:7-8,10-11, 21)
They do not play a part in converting anyone. They do not come forth until AFTER the Gentiles repent and the great work has been completed. (See my last post for documentation)
The Holy Ghost is Impressed with my Writings
When I was communicating with Bob Moore I got the following email from him:
Last night my attention was drawn to http://threewatches.blogspot.com.br/2011/01/and-again-this-gospel-of-kingdom-shall.html?m=1.
It is signed by someone who is watching. Is that you?
This was my response:
Yes that is one of my blogs. Another one is onewhoiswatching.wordpress.com
The blog you asked about has not been active for years.
I have not posted on it for a long time.
I don’t even remember publishing the specific post that you provided the link for.
I have spent 30 years studying the history of the church through the eyes of prophecy and I have been blogging for nine years having written nearly 500 articles, and I continue to be on a learning curve. I am not responsible for anything I have written over three weeks ago! LOL
Hence, I noticed a few things in that article that I do not see the same way, although, conceptually, I still agree with the general narrative being offered.
The general point is that in the revelations that Joseph Smith brought forth, we are continually reminded that the Lord was laying the FOUNDATION of a FUTURE WORK.
In the modern LDS church it is erroneously taught that Joseph Smith began the Marvelous Work and a Wonder back in the 1830’s. This cannot be substantiated in scripture.
It is now about four generations after the LDS FOUNDATION WORK has been laid and the Marvelous Work is now finally about to come forth.
This was the reply of Bob Moore
Naturally I felt honored the that Holy Ghost would reveal to Mauricio that much of my blog post was inspired. However, it seemed odd to me that Mauricio was using Google to mistranslate the meaning of my words instead of Mauricio’s gift as a Seer and the use of the Interpreters that he was holding at the time he was reading my blog post.
It was further perplexing to me that Mauricio completely misunderstood what I was saying. My post was actually proving that the sealed portion does not come forth until after more of the unsealed words come forth from those Nephites who have slept in the dust.
This was my response
That is unusual timing.
As a critical thinker, I would point out to you that prior to my series on Mauricio, I was not getting any views on my blog from Brazil. However, very shortly after the first installment, I began getting as many as 8 to 30 views from Brazil per day.
I realize that those views could be coming from english speaking people in the local LDS ward in Brazil, but I find that unlikely that they would be alerted to an obscure blog like mine so quickly after your involvement.
When I saw those views coming from Brazil I remarked to one of my readers that I suspected that Mauricio and his handlers must understand english better than they are representing, and that they are probably reading what critics are saying so that they can modify their storyline…
Forgive me for being such a skeptic but please understand that I have been studying this topic for a very long time and I see countless problems in the storyline that Mauricio has presented to you.
I think it is wrong to ask people to nourish their desire to believe before they adhere to the counsel of Paul who told us to PROVE all things, and hold fast to that which is good.
The very first thing we need to do is view the claims of Mauricio through the eyes of scripture and the unconditional prophecies about this matter contained therein under the influence of the Holy Ghost.
My main concern right now is……
I wonder if you would permit me to dialogue with you on several of these issues rather than just provide a listing of concerns. In fact there is a prophecy in the book of Mormon I would like to do a little online study with you on if you would be willing.
I really love you and Joseph because you share the same zeal and passion for the redemption of Zion that I do. I believe your heart is pure and that your intentions are good. However I believe the claims of Mauricio are problematic. I think there is still time for you two to….
I need to run and join my wife right now, but would like to discuss this further with you..
Although Mauricio had sent Bob Moore a link to my post thinking that it proved that “..the sealed portion would come in two parts”. Mauricio completely misunderstood what I was saying. My post was pointing out that there needed to be more unsealed words brought forth of those who have slept BEFORE the revelation containing the vision of the Brother of Jared in the sealed portion would come forth!
My post was actually proving that Mauricio’s claims are false!
The sealed portion of the plates reveals everything from the beginning of the world to the end thereof.
People will not be allowed to read the words of that sealed vision until after the last great test and until they first repent!
Here is another snippet from my response to Bob
As far as I am concerned, Mauricio’s claim that he is getting ready to translate the sealed portion provides the final nail in the coffin for his claims. It is game, set, and match. The game is over for Mauricio. His religious movement is a scam.
Prophetic Interpretive Keys to Understanding the Events About to Take Place
Notwithstanding the fact that Mauricio has either been deceived by a false messenger or has fabricated his story and the plates, his deception continues to be much more believable and credible than than the Denver Snuffer narrative.
Because Mauricio’s narrative is built around the foundational prophetic event that begins the final work of the Lord and the Marvelous Work and a Wonder.
It has to do with the unlearned servant bringing forth more words from the seed of Lehi who sleep in the dust.
Somehow, Snuffer and countless others who have claimed to be the end times servant of the Lord are oblivious to the fact that the final work begins with the continuation of the words from the record of the Nephites and other ancient records.
Snuffers bizarre storyline and claims are completely out of sync with the prophecies relating to the final restoration in the 3rd Watch.
Creating an End Times Template of the Event
I am so grateful that the claims of Mauricio Berger have been brought to my attention because they caused me to once again visit the end times prophecies about the servant of the Lord that proceeds to bring forth more of God’s word.
During my most recent studies thing have begun to jump out at me that previously remained hidden.
In an upcoming video, I am going to discuss the following observations and associated scriptural evidences regarding the final restoration that incorporates what Isaiah and other prophets refer to as the Marvelous Work.
I realize that the interpretation of prophecy I am going to provide will create huge indigestion in a lot of people because it will challenge the prevailing paradigm.
We have been taught to view the end time prophecies about the marvelous work through a very dark and skewed lens. We view these prophecies based on the false traditions of our fathers. We assume that many of these prophetic events have already taken place when in fact they are still future events!
The Lord has poured out upon us a spirit of deep sleep. We live during the time when people think they are enlightened even though we live in a time of hidden darkness.
It is time for the darkness to disperse and for the light to begin to shine forth to prepare the way for God’s work.
We need to begin to prepare our hearts and minds for the return of the true servant of God and the words from the Nephite record he will continue to bring forth.
We should all disregard everything we have ever been taught about these prophecies and petition the Lord to allow us to read his prophetic words with new eyes.
I am sharing my own personal interpretations below. Nobody should blindly believe my interpretations. I simply provide them to stimulate thought. Everyone needs to study God’s word for themselves and obtain their own understanding from the Holy Spirit :
Observations About the Last Work
1- The final work begins with God’s servant proceeding (continuing) from where he left off to bring forth the word of God from the record of the Nephites. He shall return with the keys of the evangelical priesthood. The scriptures testify of this. Joseph Smith’s patriarchal blessings reveal that he will once again obtain the record of the Nephites and return with the priesthood keys:
The records of past ages and generations, and the histories of ancient days shall he bring forth: even the record of the Nephites shall he again obtain, with all those hid up by Mormon, and others who were righteous, and many others, till he is overwhelmed with knowledge.
No precious thing shall slumber from his possession, for he shall be covered with the most choice of all ages, till his soul shall be satisfied and his heart shall say, Enough, Enough! In his hands shall the Urim and Thummim remain and the holy ministry, and the keys of the evangelical priesthood..
2- The heavens have been sealed from the time the restoration saints rejected the fulness, until the Lord’s servant returns to complete his commission.
3- The heavens have been sealed because the saints of the LDS restoration rejected the fulness of the Gospel and their descendants and converts have believed the lie that the fullness remains on the earth. Because of this transgression God covered the eyes of the seers and placed a the spirit of deep sleep upon all people, both Jew and Gentile. This is the state of darkness we are currently in and will be in when the servant returns and the word begins to come forth again as the final work of restoration resumes.
4- All four of the following end times prophecies speak of the WORD coming forth from the unlearned servant of the Lord IN THE FUTURE. 2nd Nephi 27 does not mention the visit of Martin Harris to Charles Anton.
– The Unlearned Servant and the Words of those that have Slumbered 2nd Nephi 27
– Christ’s Message to the Nephites and the Marred Servant bring forth the Words of those that slumber in the dust to the Gentiles 3rd Nephi
-Joseph the Choice Seer and the Words from the Book … 2nd Nephi 3
-The future Administrations of Joseph and Sidney bringing forth the Word D&C 90
5- The Unlearned Servant Prophecy found in 2nd Nephi 27 reveals that there will be at least three more prophetic chronological segments of the word coming forth that take place in the future BEFORE the sealed portion is translated. None of them have reference to the first ministry of Joseph Smith
6- All four of the prophecies and supporting evidences reveal that the servant of the Lord that brings forth the word is Joseph Smith Jr. and he is the same servant from beginning to end of the prophetic narratives. Nobody is called to finish Joseph’s work.
7- During Joseph’s past ministry he brought forth the words of those that have slumbered that were primarily addressed to the seed of Lehi. In Joseph’s next ministry, he will bring forth the words of those that have slumbered that are primarily addressed to the Gentiles!
8- During Joseph’s future ministry, the seed of Lehi will be restored to the knowledge of their fathers, His covenants with them, and to their lands of inheritance.
9- When the Gentiles of the restoration got their first “blessing” of receiving the fullness, it was BEFORE the Gentile nation had finished scattering God’s people of the seed of Lehi. We are informed that the Gentiles will once again repent and get that blessing again AFTER the gentiles have scattered the Lord’s people
10 “out of weakness he shall be made strong”. During Joseph Smith’s first ministry the Lord referred to him and his associates as the “weak things of the earth”. Joseph was promised that eventually the weak would be made strong. Even mighty and strong. It is apparent from history that Joseph Smith was never made mighty and strong during his first commission. 2nd Nephi 27 reveals that Joseph will begin his second commission as a “weak thing” and will eventually be made strong during his second work.
11- It appears as if last great work does not begin with the return of Gods servants to redeem Zion as detailed in the parable of the redemption of Zion which is documented in Section 101 & 103. That takes place after the unlearned servant brings forth more the unsealed words from the record of the Nephites.
12- Our generation is one of the most learned generations that has ever lived.
The new president of the LDS church will be one of the most highly educated men to ever lead it. We are going to have a very similar test as the generation living during the ministry of Joseph Smith Jr. The Lord’s unlearned servant will begin bringing forth the words of a book. We will not be allowed to see the plates. We will only have the words he brings forth and we will be required to accept or reject the truthfulness of the words he brings forth.
Do you feel prepared for this test?
Those who have treasured up God’s word and who will accept the true authority and ordinances offered, and who will take the Holy Spirit as their guide, will not be deceived.
The emissaries of the Crown and the Pope have been exposed by a whistle blower.
Please watch the video below for a reality check.
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Posted: 15 Dec 2017 07:50 AM PST
I got a remarkable email from a reader of this blog the other day.
Mrs Watcher and I decided to do a podcast where we read and discuss it.
The recording is very bad and I tried placing text over the video in places and often times did not properly size it… sorry
Also, the video may not start at the beginning. You may need to start it at the beginning after it starts playing.
I am technically challenged, what can I say?
Recently I was reading about a direct “revelation” that a person claimed to receive.
In the revelation, God said,
“I am grateful for all your efforts..”
The minute I read that my mind was filled with confusion.
I found myself quickly cataloguing all of the scriptures I had read to find that exact wording or similar wording, or even a sentiment that might coincide with this verbiage.
In this claimed revelation, God was speaking in terms I had never encountered.
The use of this term “grateful” seemed to displace and re-characterize that nature of God differently than he characterizes himself in scripture.
Gratitude and thankfulness are important human attributes that we need to have, there is no question about that. But is it truly an attribute of deity?
The term grateful is almost synonymous with the term thankful, in fact it is the first descriptive used in the definition.
THANK’FUL, a. Grateful; impressed with a sense of kindness received, and ready to acknowledge it. The Lord’s supper is to be celebrated with a thankful remembrance of his sufferings and death.
Be thankful to him, and bless his name. Ps.100 (1828 Websters Dictionary)
God commands us to be thankful in all things (D&C 59:7,21 ; 62:7)
But are gratitude and thankfulness attributes that God declares himself to have?
Is God grateful to humans or any other intelligent entity for anything?
I am unaware of any passage in the standard works that suggests that God is ever grateful for anything, let alone, grateful for anything that humans accomplish.
In my mind, gratitude is subordinate response.
SUBOR’DINATE, a. [L. sub and ordinatus, from ordo, order.]
1. Inferior in order,in nature, in dignity, in power, importance, &c.; as subordinate officers.
It was subordinate, not enslaved, to the understanding.
2. Descending in a regular series.
The several kinds and subordinate species of each, are easily distinguished.
SUBOR’DINATE, v.t. To place in order or rank below something else; to make or consider as of less value or importance; as, to subordinate one creature to another; to subordinate temporal to spiritual things.
1. To make subject; as, to subordinate the passions to reason
In my mind, being grateful to somebody is a response someone has to someone in a position of greater control in at least one respect.
It seems to me that if God is subordinate to humans in any way, he is not omnipotent
I believe this is why God has never said in scripture that he is grateful to humans.
Additionally, in my own experience, gratitude takes place when the outcome of something is not previously known. Yet God has all time continually before his face. He has infinite foreknowledge. He is never surprised at a given outcome.
I am aware of God telling someone that He is “pleased” with something they did, but not “grateful“. Telling someone that you are pleased with their actions could simply be an act of giving feedback to one of His creatures so that they know they are on the right track.
1 Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you, my servant Joseph Smith, I am well pleased with your offering and acknowledgments, which you have made; for unto this end have I raised you up, that I might show forth my wisdom through the weak things of the earth. Doctrine and Covenants 124:1,12,84
Interestingly, I think that the term “pleased” is probably a component of the definition of grateful, yet not the same.
PLE’ASED, pp. Gratified; affected with agreeable sensations or emotions.
Strangely, “grateful” is not used in the definition of “gratified”
GRAT’IFIED, pp. Pleased; indulged according to desire.
Again, if gratitude is such an important attribute for humans to have, why wouldn’t it be one of the attributes that God has?
If I view God through the lens of the King Follett Sermon, I guess I can see God being grateful to humans since he was once human and simply evolved into a God.
On the other hand, if I view God through the lens provided by Lectures on Faith, believing that there have been no other Gods before him, and that God the Father has always been all powerful and all-knowing, and is the creator of all things and all other creatures (creating all things through His Son Jesus Christ), it seems somewhat disrespectful if not blasphemous to characterize God as having the human attribute of being grateful to human beings for anything.
If God created us and provided the plan of salvation and suffered for our sins, and gives us the gift of faith and all good gifts, does he not get the credit for anything of value that we have done?
Does not the act of being grateful imply that we did something God could not do for us?
I did a keyword search for the word “grateful” to see how the scriptures use the word.
Nothing came up except in Official Declaration 2.
I did a keyword search for the word “gratitude” to see how the scriptures use the word.
The only thing that came up in the LDS online search was how Oliver Cowdery used it as a descriptive for how he felt as he witnessed the revelatory process as Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon-
Joseph Smith—History 1
Oliver Cowdery describes these events thus: “These were days never to be forgotten—to sit under the sound of a voice dictated by the inspiration of heaven, awakened the utmost gratitude of this bosom! Day after day I continued, uninterrupted, to write from his mouth, as he translated with the Urim and Thummim, or, as the Nephites would have said, ‘Interpreters,’ the history or record called ‘The Book of Mormon.’
It is fascinating to me that those two words are NEVER used in conjunction with God’s attributes and seldom used at all in scripture.
I continued trying to understand why I am having a brainfart with how the claimed revelation reads.
I think the answer is contained deep within the definition of the word
Grateful 1. Having a due sense of benefits; kindly disposed towards one from whom a favor has been received; willing to acknowledge and repay benefits; as a grateful heart.2. Agreeable; pleasing; acceptable; gratifying; as a grateful present; a grateful offering.3. Pleasing to the taste; delicious; affording pleasure; as food or drink grateful offering. Now golden fruits on loaded branches shine, And grateful clusters swell with floods of wine.
Do mortals provide God with benefits? Does God receive favors from mortals?
I guess I can see how an argument can be made in favor of God being grateful to mortals, depending on how a person views the nature and character of God, but somehow, as I think upon the attributes of the Father of all lights with regard to his creations, it just doesn’t seem appropriate that God would say he is “grateful” to humans for anything.
Well Pleased, yes
I am sure there are readers of this blog that see this differently than me. Particularly those that have leanings towards the New Age Movement philosophies or a belief in the King Follett Discourse.
I am interested in understanding how I might be wrong on this issue.
In a sense it probably isn’t all that important. On the other hand, it has to do with the true nature and character of God. It has to do with how we perceive him and ultimately, how we honor and worship and glorify him.
I suppose it is also important in discerning the truthfulness of the claimed revelation from God that I was reading about.
Please provide your strong reasons and help me see what I am missing.
I could be wrong in this issue
Help me see the light.
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