Notable Emails #18- “I wake up every morning with this intense feeling that we are getting closer”

July 9, 2015

A few weeks ago I got an interesting email from a subscriber of the blog. Portions of the email are contained below-


“Hello Watcher,

I loved your last post!

There is so much I could say about it but I mostly just wanted to thank you for continuing to take the time to share your thoughts and add clarity to a topic that is becoming so important whether you have been overcome with the spirit of watching or if you are a “typical” member of the corporate LDS church and are struggling to wrap your mind around all of the turmoil being caused by the current church leadership.

It amazes me how so many members today sense something is not quite right and will even sometimes dare to speak their thoughts out loud but as soon as they do they are always quick to add “but I know the prophet will never lead me astray”.

We truly live in amazing times.

I have a question for you. It is something I have wanted to ask you for a while but have been hesitant to bring it up until your last post because of something you said. Towards the end of your post you said:

 “I can tell you that I have experienced this power that comes through the written word. It is real. It is powerful. It makes it easy to detect high profile people those that are deceived and those that are intentionally deceiving.”

My question has to do with those who are intentionally deceiving on a worldwide scale. I want to add my own witness to what you said in your post.

If there is one thing that I have noticed as I have progressed down this path and become more familiar with the word of God and what it actually is trying to tell me is that I see patterns in the world that don’t seem right or perhaps they do seem right depending on your perspective (I will explain what I mean by that).

I am not saying in any way that I have figured it out. In fact one of my biggest fears is that I once again find myself in a position where I have been deceived by some person, or group, or that I miss something that is happening in the world that I should have seen that would cause me to not recognize when the servants have returned.

Despite my concerns I wake up every morning with this intense feeling that we are getting closer. I feel this way not only because of a feeling but because of the endless things that are happening in the world. It is clear to me that there has been a massive effort for a very long time by a very specific group of evil individuals to lead this world towards a path of destruction.

I know I am not saying anything new but I just wanted to point out that as you begin to recognize and understand more  about how the Lord has operate you also are able to see more clearly how the adversary is also trying to accomplish his purposes as we head towards the Second Coming.

With all of that being said the question I have for you has to do with this upcoming September/October.

I know earlier when you were posting on your three watches blog you would sometimes mention specific dates to watch out for and I have noticed that you do not do that as much which makes perfect sense but I was wondering if you had any specific thoughts as we draw closer to this time frame.

Please know this is just a general question and in no way am I trying to get you to commit to anything specific. I just see certain things lining up around that time frame that I find very interesting.

For example here is a small list:

  1. – Jade Helm 15 (supposedly starts on 7/15/15 and ends on 9/15/2015)
  2. -The end of the Shemitah year on 9/13/2015 or Elul 29
  3. –  An increase in speculation that there will be a large economic down turn around this time frame
  4. – 9/14/2015 (Jewish new year)
  5. -There will be a solar eclipse on 9/13/2015 as well
  6. – The fall equinox will take place on 9/23/2014
  7. – Pope to Visit White House on 9/23/2015 (Day of Atonement) – then address Congress on 9/24/2015 – then on 9/25 he will address the UN
  8. -The French Foreign Minister said on 5/13/2015 standing next to John Kerry that “we have 500 days to avoid climate chaos”. (500 days from that date is 9/24/2015)
  9. – There seems to be a large amount of movies, songs, media and other entertainment sources that are subtly pointing to the week of 9/21 through 9/28/2015 being a very significant/interesting week.
  10. -CERN tests taking place on 9/23 and 9/24
  11. -The last blood Moon of the four will occur on 9/28/2015 (I know you have mentioned the tetrad moons before)
  12. -The feast of the tabernacles is also on9/28/2015

This list is just the tip of the ice berg but it’s a good starting point. If someone spends a few minutes on Google or YouTube and searches any of these topics you will find thousands of posts or articles with all sorts of different perspectives.

Some of the perspectives are pure garbage and others are worth considering. But one of the points I think I am trying to make is I do not remember a time period in my life were so many significant events seem to be coming together all at once. One of the things that I find so interesting is regardless of a person’s perspective on these possible upcoming events it seems to me that there are very powerful people in this world who are looking to this time frame for something significant.

When I consider all that is to come whether in three months, three years, or three decades my heart wants to sing out. The things listed above sound like a list of darkness and despair but those who know the Lord and are coming to understand his ways must all feel in awe for the time that we now live in.

I think of the Prophets from the scriptures and how they all looked to our day when the Lord’s promises will all finally be fulfilled (every single one of them). Despite the doom and gloom we have so much to look forward to and so much to be grateful for. Despite our eyes being blind many are starting to see. They may still not know what to look for but they are at least realizing there has to be more. I believe in a God of miracles. I believe in a God who is about to perform his miracles on this earth once again. I believe that despite the cunning of men and the influences that Satan has over this world nothing can stay the hand of the Lord.”

_____ end of email

OK… You know somebody has truly contracted the spirit of watching when they are not only taking note of the prophetic implications of the events taking place around them, but also rejoicing in them instead of putting on a crash helmet and climbing into a bomb shelter and laying in the fetal position.

My friend observes that

I do not remember a time period in my life were so many significant events seem to be coming together all at once“.

However, one of the significant and profound take-aways that I noticed was the following declaration:

When I consider all that is to come whether in three months, three years, or three decades my heart wants to sing out.  The things listed above sound like a list of darkness and despair but those who know the Lord and are coming to understand his ways must all feel in awe for the time that we now live in.

Praise God Almighty!

That is how we are supposed to respond to these times. It reminds me of Christ’s admonition when he foretold of ominous signs in the heavens and distress within the nations, and waves roaring, and mens hearts failing them for fear, his messages of hope was

” And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh…when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.”

I loved my friend’s declaration of hope and faith that God is in charge and that nothing that old scratch does can thwart the purposes of God:

“I believe in a God of miracles. I believe in a God who is about to perform his miracles on this earth once again. I believe that despite the cunning of men and the influences that Satan has over this world nothing can stay the hand of the Lord.”

Interestingly, as I am constructing this post on Wednesday the 8th, within the last 24 hours the following things have taken place.

Pope calls for one world government.
Chinese stock trading halted.
US stock exchange halted.
Banks closed in Greece.
US mint suspends sale of American Eagle coins.
United Airlines flights grounded.

Are these signs of the times?

Is the last great financial crash about to take place?

Are we getting ready for the financial”reset”?

Are we going to war?

Will America be invaded as per the prophecy in Micah?

It is difficult to not take these things seriously given the coming Shemitah and the fact that we are living in the time of the 3rd and 4th generation since the church rejected the fulness of the gospel.

In answer to the question,”I was wondering if you had any specific thoughts as we draw closer to this time frame.”

The answer is


I will be doing a series on youtube shortly, about the secret history of Mormonism, that shows how history reveals prophecy and prophecy reveals history… and there are prophetic time sequences and patterns that suggest that the world, as we know it, will never be the same… starting VERY SOON.


Keep Watching



Notable Emails #17 “Then shall the offering of Judah and Jerusalem be pleasant unto the LORD, as in the days of old, and as in former years.”

Notable Emails #16 “the Lord wouldn’t give a young church such responsibility so early”

Notable Emails #15: “It would be so hard to do if we didn’t have the word crunching software available to us to use. Now I can see why so many are deceived.”

Notable Emails #14b “who was the legal heir and successor of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr.?”

Notable Emails #14a “Baptism for the dead is illogical and pretty much impossible to ever accomplish”

Notable Emails Part 13 “Gileadi compares the Servant to Hezekiah, in that he answered for the temporal sins of the people and acted as a proxy savior”

Notable Emails Part 12 “the scriptures will become corrupted and deceive the elect and give Satan power”

Notable Emails Part 9 “My number one desire right now is to protect my wife and honor her tender feelings about the gospel as she understands it.”

Notable Emails Part 8 “Who are the Jews and Gentiles?

Notable Emails Part 7 “My eyes have been opened”

Notable Emails Part 6: “Can anyone tell me anything about this blog?… This guy seems to have some new ideas I’ve never heard before using the scriptures to back his views.

Notable Emails Part 5: “the truths that both you and I hold so dear …are things that cannot be taught they can only be revealed.”

Notable Emails- Part 4 “I have now caught the spirit of watching along with you and others.”

Notable Emails- Part 3 “Have you ever read ‘Letter to a CES Director?’” Yes… and it has strengthened my testimony!

Notable Emails- Part 2: “Readers deserve to know if you truly are a heretic or just a faithful divergent thinker”

Notable Emails Part 1- Mormon Missionary: “I too am watching”

[Editorial Note: If you are wondering why the above list has two #14 posts and is missing #10 &11 it is not because of my parents or the high school I went to. I just can’t count very well. LOL


“All things which are hid must be revealed upon the house-tops”

July 6, 2015

There is an interesting snippet of scripture found in the New Testament in both Matthew and Luke that speaks about the fact that the time will come when everything that has been spoken in secrecy will be revealed.

” for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. What I tell you in darkness, preach ye in light; and what ye hear in the ear, preach ye upon the housetops[1].

The general theme, even including the use of the word “housetops” is continued in the Book of Mormon:

“I, knowing that these things must surely be made known, and that all things which are hid must be revealed upon the house-tops—”[2] 

Finally, another variation of the concept shows up in modern revelation in relation to the events of the last days when the servants go forth warning the inhabitants of the earth for the last time

“And the rebellious shall be pierced with much sorrow; for their iniquities shall be spoken upon the housetops, and their secret acts shall be revealed.”[3]

the interesting thing about this “house-tops” keyword thread in the scriptures is that it appears to cut both ways with regard to good secret information and bad secret information.

In other words, it appears that many secrets that God has shared with his elect in the past will someday be revealed to the world, perhaps to the condemnation of the wicked.

Conversely, the secrets of the wicked will also be revealed upon the roof tops.

Some people interpret the roof tops characterization in these prophetic passages of scripture to be referring to modern day communication technology such as TV antennas, satellite dishes, Internet routers, etc. They feel that it is through such technology that these secrets are made available to the masses.

Frankly, I think the ultimate and literal fulfillment of those prophecies are still future, taking place in the 3rd watch, after the Marvelous Work begins.

Nevertheless, I think that a type and shaddow is in play right now and I do see the general concept being applicable to what we have seen within the last several decades and particularly within the last several years. It is amazing how many things are coming to light. Much of this is made possible through technology in general and the the advent of the Internet.

The truth is that very few things are kept secret anymore for a multitude of reasons and once they are revealed, they often travel like wildfire.

The LDS church is currently experiencing a huge challenge with regard to the veracity of their truth claims because the Internet has made access to information and the sharing of information to the average person so quick and easy. The result is that tens of thousands of people are experiencing a crisis of faith. The Internet has been a game changer for many Mormons


I enjoy watching TED presentations from time to time because there really are many ideas worth sharing and now through technology they can be brought to light and countless people can hear these ideas very quickly. A few weeks ago I was intrigued to see that a presentation done by Monica Lewinsky. I couldn’t help but begin watching and once I began watching I couldn’t turn the presentation off.

Video seen here

I confess that my perception of this individual was not very good, partly because of how she was portrayed in the media. As I was listening to the experience that she shared and how she spent a portion of her life wanting to commit suicide because of how the media had revealed her secret acts with President Clinton and forever destroyed her reputation, I began feeling great empathy for her and the situation she got caught up in.

I am not justifying her actions nor do I think it is my responsibility to judge her as a person. The way she conducts her own life and her relationship with God is her business not mine. What got me about the presentation had to do with the topic of compassion and how the viral transmission of information can have such a huge, and in some cases, devastating impact on people lives.

It got me thinking about how my blog plays into the transfer of information and what my motivations are in making information available. I admit that I do promote information that is embarrassing to the modern corporate church and in some instances about individual personalities.

I do so because I believe it is the time for much of this information to come to light.

I feel compelled to provide much needed context to those that are searching and trying to make sense out of things. Nevertheless the TED video caused me to re-evaluate my deepest motivations. Do I get joy out of embarrassing people or am I sincerely motivated by the desire to push for transparency and truth in history and doctrine?

Do I make available controversial things about General Authorities because I am angry about the current situation with the apostate church and feel betrayed, and therefore want to embarrass them and make them squirm or do I sincerely want to bring to light, things that have been hidden in darkness and obscurity to help those that are looking for answers?

I hope my desire is to help those that are searching to find the answers they are looking for. Every piece of the puzzle that is found and put in place makes it that much easier to find and place other pieces of the puzzle. I believe that is what is happening now. The appointed time for God to take the partial blindness off of Israel is quickly approaching.

The Lord has promised that blindness in part will be upon Israel UNTIL the fulness of the Gentiles:

“For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.” (Rom 11:25)

Section 45 also assures us that the light is about to break forth during the last generation when the times of the Gentiles comes in again. I feel we are extremely close to that event and that is why God is beginning to bring hidden acts of darkness to light and perhaps beginning to take the blindness off of his elect.

“And when the times of the Gentiles is come in, a light shall break forth among them that sit in darkness, and it shall be the fulness of my gospel;

But they receive it not; for they perceive not the light, and they turn their hearts from me because of the precepts of men.

And in that generation shall the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.” (D&C 45:28-30)

It is amazing to me how God seems to be slowly taking blindness off of those that that have contracted the spirit of watching.

Little by little information that has previously been kept hidden is coming to light.

I remember years ago wondering how Neal A Maxwell found his way into the leading quorums of the church since he was not a descendant of the Nauvoo saints. His parents were converts to the church. It was extremely unusual for someone without the “divine Nauvoo pedigree” to be elevated to the apostleship.

Sometime after that, it was brought to my attention that he had worked for the CIA and that he and the Church had tried to hide that bit of his work history by simply stating that he had “worked for the government“. Below is a snippet on Wiki which also reflects his bio on the church website.

 “From 1952 to 1956, he worked in Washington D.C., first for the US government and then as an assistant to Senator Wallace F. Bennett.”

 That piece of the puzzle led to other pieces of the puzzle linking the very close connections between the combination that has infiltrated the church and the combination that has infiltrated the government.

Going Viral

It is interesting how some information goes viral and other information does not.

Of course anything can go viral if it is juicy and controversial enough, even without the help of digital media and social networking platforms.

Even before the Internet was invented, controversial things would find their way into the public domain.

I learned an amazing marketing lesson from Bruce R. McConkie back in the 80’s. He taught me that if you want something controversial to go viral, simply write a letter to someone, then make a few copies and stamp “DO NOT REPRODUCE” on them, and give them to a few of your trusted associates at the church office building.

do not

Before long everyone will have the opportunity to read it.

In that particular case, there were many people that got and read the letter even before it reached Eugene England, the person that it was addressed to.

Page one of the letter began with:

“Dear Brother England, this may well be the most important letter you have or will ever receive”

How is that for an attention getter? Some of the Advertising giants on Madison Ave could have used his skills.

I think Brother McConkie  may have missed out on his calling in life. He really should have been in marketing and advertising.

I have already blogged about the amazing content of the letter which is so important for people to be familiar with as they try to work their way through the Mormon Maze, so I will not beat that dead horse again, however the circumstance behind the exchange between Apostle McConkie and brother England is really quite a fascinating and important story as related by the daughter of Eugene England.

In the letter, McConkie explains why he is condescending to deviate from his usual protocol of blowing off nobodies, to write a personal letter to a lowly member of the church:

“I have now reached the conclusion that it would be wise for me to depart from usual custom and send you an answer to your letter. I do so out of respect for your parents, G. Eugene and Dora, and for your own personal well being..”

It is a good thing that McConkine knew Eugene’s parents. That is probably the only reason the time was taken to construct the letter.

The arrogant and condescending nature of that letter has shocked and entertained countless people.

The point I want to make about brother McConkie’s letter is that false doctrine has been a huge problem in the church not only from regular members of the church, but also from General Authorities, such as Brigham Young and Bruce R. McConkie. In the letter McConkie accurately accused Brigham Young of teaching false doctrine about the nature and character of God and said that he would have to answer to the Lord for such a monumental faux pau. McConkie himself would one day tell people to forget everything he (McConkie) had ever taught about blacks and the priesthood.

Another letter from a General Authority has just gone viral. This particular one is from Apostle Oaks to a gal that appears to be a Snufferite.

Although the letter was written quite a long time ago, she just released it.   It appears that she has waited for a long time for the perfect oopportunity to let it go viral and the Boise Rescue created the perfect moment.

The content and condescending tone of the letter has some degree of similarity to McConkie’s letter to Eugene England. No Doubt, Oaks had seen the McConkie letter to England. Oaks had apparently learned well from the senior apostle how to conduct himself as an Apostle when communicating to lowly members of the church.

In the letter, Brother Oaks explains why he is condescending to write to a lowly member of the church:

“I write in response to your letter of May 15 2011, which I have given special attention because of my high regard for your parents..”

Wow, does that sound like the McConkie letter all over again?

I suspect the Apostle Oaks may well be very embarrassed and perhaps even sweating bullets about how he is viewed by the general public regarding his comments in Boise and how he responded to the Snufferite gal.

One of the take-aways I got from the two GA letters is that if you don’t have parents or a close friend that is known and well thought of by the General Authority that you are writing to, they are not going to waste their precious time patronizing peons. They may be the servant of all, but not everyone gets served the same way.

The content of the letter is not quite as juicy as the letter to Eugene England, but it is just as authoritarian, fear based and condescending. Again, hopefully my motivation in talking about these things is to bring hidden things to light in an effort to awake the sleeping virgins, not some morbid desire to embarrass people, even if some of them are dead.

The point of bringing up the TED presentation and the two letters from General Authorities is that we live in a time when communication goes viral quite easily and effectively, and information that might otherwise be kept somewhat contained is being revealed on the house-tops, so to speak.

Apostle Oaks once made an authoritative declaration that has now gone viral-

“It is wrong to criticize the leaders of the church, even if the criticism is true”

The Lord provides a protocol for excommunicating the president of the church and other authority figures,  if they ever make  grievous errors that are leading the church astray, however, since it is impossible to ever hold a disciplinary council on leaders without being somewhat critical of something they did or said, the Lord’s protocol could never be used, according to the divine council of Apostle Oaks.

Frankly, that statement of his should go viral. For someone in such a high position to make such a false and damning declaration is almost beyond belief.

The remarkable thing about that statement many years ago is that Oaks probably still believes what he said.

Those two letters, the declaration that general authorities should never be questioned even when wrong, and Lewinsky’s affair with President Clinton would have all remained somewhat private and confidential in an earlier time when TV, Radio, Newspapers and the Internet were not in existence.

Letters from General Authorities just seem to emerge into the court of public opinion even if it takes a few decades for them to be brought to light. Many years ago my cousin George Romney got a fascinating letter from Delbert Stapley regarding the topics of how Blacks should be treated-

While that letter is quite revealing about the views of Delbert Stapley, I am curious to know if Romney responded to it and if so, I am still awaiting for someone to leak the response.. LOL

Regarding the Boise Rescue, I want to share another example of information going viral that would otherwise remain hidden.

Although many people have heard the recording of Apostle Oaks address in Boise, few people know what the circumstances behind the visit are. The Church PR department has told us one thing, however, the secret communication of an insider living in Boise tells quite another story.

Some very interesting context about the Boise Rescue event has now been released because one of the participants in a private chat forum on the Internet decided to leak the confidential information being shared.

As that content was being electronically shared from one person to another, it somehow ended up in my email box and I am now sharing it with you.

Here is what the participant in the private forum who lives in the Boise area had to say about why the fireside was held.

Satan’s attack in Idaho/How to keep a ward safe

“Some have requested this information, hopefully many of you will benefit from it.

There is so much information here, that I don’t want to chase you away. I’ll try to keep it to what is really needed and facts.

I stated earlier that the “Boise Rescue” was called that by the apostates. In fact apostates attended this meeting and did a sneak recording of Elder Oaks and Brother Turley. They published the recording and of course the apostates had a hay day with negative and degrading comments. 

These three stakes have had a very difficult time with members associating with apostates moving into many wards like a fast growing cancer. We were told that friends and family outside these three stakes were not invited to the fireside and please do not ask them to come with you. Bishops did know that the topic was going to be about church history and false prophets. However it was not publicized that way. Which was fine.

Elder Oaks and Brother Turly, handed the baton back and forth sharing and teaching how apostates at the time of the early church worked. Forged Signatures, telling lies and other sorts, noting that nothing has changed much.

My personal experience has been a very close friend how he started looking several months ago. We talked on the phone, emails, FB, and texting all the time. Each time I patiently heard him out and then would challenge his thinking. But my voice fell upon deaf ears. He has slowly come to the point that we do not have living prophets and apostles on the earth today. He now believes that President Monson has failed in his calling and that the church is under condemnation. Apostates use the same scriptures that you and i use to weave their web of lies. If I showed you the emails that he has sent me, it has been a very slight twist to the truth, which if you are not a student of the scriptures and have NOT the Holy Ghost with you, it looks really good. They prey on the weak, those who do not study and those who may not pray as they should, fall short. 

I have had days of tears all day long, and spent much time upon my knees pleading with Heavenly Father to preserve this brother. But, he has his own choice, to choose right from wrong. Since we are not in the same ward anymore, I went to my bishop with this issue. He wrote me a very tender email and advised me to call his stake president. In which I did. The evidence is all over his FB account. My friend asked me to keep it quiet because he still wants the temple privileges, but the bishop is right, he should not have a recommend and it is possible there is other church action that needs to be done.
There are many people my friend likes, but I am not willing to share all the blogs that I have read. I DON’T want anyone to go to these blogs and lose their eternal reward. It is not worth it. No names means I am protecting you. Just know there are many….
I plead that you study the word, daily. That you pray daily. That you serve daily. That you ponder daily. That you seek the Holy Ghost, daily. Then you’ll be fine.

How to keep a ward safe.

Our story is similar to many others when it comes time to move. We searched, we pondered, we inquired and we listened and the end result is we landed where He wanted us to be. This particular ward, has had many, many members tell of this exact experience. The Lord has brought to this ward some very elite and strong testimony driven Latter Day Saints. I am not one to believe that the testimony I have is ALL MINE, it is on loan from Heavenly Father. The day will come when I will have a perfect knowledge. The Lord has done some mighty miracles in our family of nine (Started with 2 and now we are 33) and it is has caused some serious thinking and testimony building. This is not the place to get into that… however, we have felt honored and humbled to witness the miracle that is taking place in our ward.

Now the rest of the story. Our bishop took Elder Anderson’s challenge (Find it at for the youth to do family history search very seriously. Last October, (Before we moved into the ward, we moved in January of this year) he organized a Ward Family History Committee. That committee consisted of 2 adult family history consultants, (One for the YM and one for YW. He release the YW,YM presidents and put them as history consultants) the Bishopric, one young woman, who is 15 and one young man who is 15, the High Priest Group leader and they were looking for a couple to be the Family History Coordinators. (He was looking and praying for 4 months until he found them).

The committee met and decided that they would set a goal for the youth to find 500 names this year in 2015 to do baptisms for in the temple. 2 temple trips were scheduled and they anticipated of doing 250 names each trip. It was a very nice goal. 

The first meeting was a combined YM/YW meeting with computers and passwords for all the youth in the ward. (By the way our ward is large, about 500 members) They began the meeting as usual, song, prayer, spiritual thought and then digging in on the computers. However, after 15-20 minutes no one had found any ancestors to take to the temple. One of the YOUTH leaders, stopped everyone from what they were doing, and explained that they needed to get upon their knees and plead with Heavenly Father for help. No adults interrupted but allowed the youth to do as what they felt they needed to do. So, they stopped, everyone got upon their knees and a prayer of pleading was offered. After the prayer, they began again, except this time, a name was found, then 2 then 3 and so on. That night 86 names were found. THE FIRE WAS NOW LIT. 

The youth became so excited they could not contain themselves. They went home and did more research, they taught their parents, and their brothers and sisters. In February, they wanted to do a Ward Family History Search night. The committee organized it and the youth advertised it by telling the adults, they could find an ancestor with in 30 minutes of searching for anyone. The cultural hall was full as well as several other class rooms with families searching. It was youth teaching adults AND It has exploded.

The last count of names in the ward found……….”

There you have it. The secret scoop on the Boise Rescue. More hidden information being brought to light

Here are a few of my takeaways-

1- Influence of “Apostates” Growing Like a Cancer

“Apostates” are moving into the Boise area and influencing members of the church. The effects of this indoctrination are growing like a cancer. Apparently LDS inc was concerned enough to take drastic measures in sending an apostle to do damage control.

2- The way to keep the youth in the church during these troubled times is the temple!

It really is amazing how the temple does have a powerful impact on some people, particularly when they are young and impressionable. The Church is using the temple rituals and covenants to try and keep people blinded to the pure and simple gospel of Christ. Instead of focusing on a covenant with Christ, lets get the sheeple to make a covenant with hell. That should keep them in line.

3- The Church Attempted to Keep the Topic of the Meeting Secret

It was supposed to be a low key fireside that only individuals from three stakes were invited to.

Friends and relative from other stakes were not to be invited and the topic of the fireside address was not made known to anyone other than the local bishops, who were instructed to not let people know what the topic of the fireside was. This was done in an effort to keep the event low key and not attract the attention of any evil apostates

Somehow those precautions were supposed to keep this event under the radar. LOL

Don’t they realize that some of the Bishops are probably questioning the truth claims of the modern church and possibly even sympathetic to many of the fringe groups and bloggers?

Secret Recording

Somebody in the audience came prepared to secretly tape the meeting. That would indicate that either a Bishop was the whistleblower or a Bishop let the cat out of the bag about what the meeting was going to be about to others after being instructed not to.

Sending the recording to Mormonstories is tantamount to sending confidential information to the National Enquirer.

The truth is that there are 100 times more dissenters that are still active and in good standing in the church than there are dissenters that have openly gone public or been outed.

Did Apostle Oaks really think he could keep that damage control meeting a secret?

What can I say? All things must be revealed upon the housetops!

The Brethren and Their Minions are Closet Fundamentalists 

I am going to close this post with one last little secret that was revealed to me recently. I suspect that one day this information will be brought to light in a big way.

As you know, during the last few year in Nauvoo, Joseph Smith was publicly claiming that he was a monogamist while secretly taking on plural wives. What I am going to suggest to you is that such doublespeak and duplicity is taking place by people in high places in the LDS church right now, regarding the same topic.

I became appraised of this situation the other day when a reader of my blog forwarded an email to me that really surprised me. It was from a very high profile LDS apologist that has published many books on polygamy and fashions himself to be the worlds greatest expert on the topic. He was also used as a doctrinal and historical “consultant” by the church in drafting their new articles on polygamy that have been posted on the official church website.

I have recently heard the man speak about his books and I have had a few brief exchanges with him.

He appears to be very down to earth, honest and sincere. He also publicly presents his personal opinion that polygamy is something from the past that he hopes will not return. He acknowledges that it has brought unhappiness to everyone involved and that it has a devastating impact on the women that get involved with it. Nevertheless, I now think he is being somewhat disingenuous in his public persona.

The reason the email written by this apologist to a friend of mine surprised me, is because despite his public rhetoric, in the email, he claims that ALL of the passages of scripture in modern revelation that command the saints to live monogamy, are really not saying what they are saying!!!!

He obviously takes this view because he continues to accept the celestial polygamy doctrine that is taught in Section 132 as being essential in being exalted in the highest kingdom, even though he publicly denies that belief or at least skirts the issue.

In his email, he denies that section 42, 49, and the “Article on Marriage” that Brigham Young replaced with section 132 are really saying that monogamy is the Lord’s standard of marriage!

What? “Thou shalt love thy wife with all thy heart, and shalt cleave unto her and none else” is not revealing that God’s celestial marital law is monogamy?

What? “Wherefore, it is lawful that he should have one wife, and they twain shall be one flesh, and all this that the earth might answer the end of its creation” is not revealing that God’s celestial marital law is monogamy?

What? “Inasmuch as this Church of Christ has been reproached with the crime of fornication and polygamy, we declare that we believe that one man should have one wife, and one woman but one husband, except in case of death, when either is at liberty to marry again.” is not revealing that God’s celestial marital law is monogamy?

That is right. According to this “scholar” the Lord was cryptically saying just the opposite of what He appears to be saying.

I am not going to show the content of his email at this time as this post has already gone too long and you would loose countless brain cells if you tried to comprehend his logic and reasoning. I simply want to point out that LDS general authorities and some of their apologists are presenting one thing in public while believing something quite different in secret.

I was utterly shocked at the level of sophistry and wresting of the scriptures employed in this apologist’s email. I was going to contact him and confront him on it and ask him how he could contradict the public declarations that the church has recently made on this most important issue in their essays on polygamy.

Before contacting him a little voice in my head said, ” you better go back and read those historical essays on polygamy again, perhaps they were not saying what you thought they were saying”, so I did. I went back and re-read the two essays on polygamy. And sure enough, they appear to be saying one thing, but if you pay attention to the wording, and particularly to the footnotes, it becomes apparent that a deception is in play.

One of the articles on the church website is called Plural Marriage in Kirtland and Nauvoo

Here is what the opening declaration says:

Latter-day Saints believe that monogamy—the marriage of one man and one woman—is the Lord’s standing law of marriage.1

Notice that it does not say that monogamy is the Lord’s standing law of marriage, it says that “Latter-day Saints believe” that it is the Lord’s standard of Marriage!

Very clever.

Furthermore, a “standing law of marriage” could be referring to the masses, not the special elect that inherit a high kingdom.

Now, before I show you footnote #1 documenting the deceptively worded declaration, let me show you the five references that any scholar worth their salt would put in the footnote if they were going to prove that the Lord’s standard of marriage in the restored church is that of monogamy.

The first two passages would be from the New Testament showing that monogamy was God’s standard of marriage among the New Testament Saints:

1 Timothy 3:2 ” A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach..”

1 Tim 3:12 “Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.”

The above two passages are critical in substantiating the  opening declaration because they demonstrate what the standard of marriage was in the New Testament Church.

Obviously, if New Testament Christianity was restored through Joseph Smith, it would include the same standard of monogamous marriage. In the New Testament the Bishop was the father of the congregation and a judge in Israel. The Deacons were to set am example and watch over the church. Both were to be examples and prototypes of how the gospel should be lived. Both had to only have one wife to qualify for their very important stewardship!

Ok… The next three passages of scripture that would be crucial in scripturally substantiating the opening statement that monogamy is God’s standard protocol of Marriage would be the three passages I have already made reference to. They are important in establishing the fact that the marital protocol of the fulness of the gospel that was had during New Testament times is the same as the marital protocol in the fulness of the Gospel that was restored by the Prophet Joseph Smith-

D&C 42:22 ” Thou shalt love thy wife with all thy heart, and shalt cleave unto her and none else.”

D&C 49:16 “Wherefore, it is lawful that he should have one wife, and they twain shall be one flesh, and all this that the earth might answer the end of its creation..”

The Article on Marriage  “Inasmuch as this Church of Christ has been reproached with the crime of fornication and polygamy, we declare that we believe that one man should have one wife, and one woman but one husband, except in case of death, when either is at liberty to marry again.”

Ok. The word of God tells us that my the testimony of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.

Notice that God has given us five clear declarations in the Bible and Modern revelation detailing what the marital law of the gospel is.

Obviously there are a multiplicity of fantastic passages in the Book of Mormon that should also be included in the footnote as well, but those five passages from the Bible and D&C are absolutely critical in establishing the doctrinal veracity of the declaration that readers of the essay ASSUME the first declaration is saying. For the generation that Joseph lived in, the fulness of the gospel required monogamy and forbids polygamy!

It should be noted that if you back out a couple of revelations that Brigham Young canonized, there is not one shred of evidence in the Old Testament, New Testament, Book of Mormon, or D&C, that the so-called “spiritual wife doctrine” or “celestial polygamy doctrine” is a true doctrine or that it is a requirement to obtain the highest kingdom of glory.

It is clearly an anomaly. It was an aberration that was invented during Joseph Smith’s ministry.

One of the unfortunate things about this issue is that scholars almost always neglect to differentiate between the doctrine of “Biblical Polygamy” vs “Celestial Polygamy”. They are not the same. Biblical Polygamy was a temporal based custom that was integrated into the Law of Moses after the Children of Israel rejected the higher law. It was a cursing to everyone that lived it.

Celestial Polygamy on the other hand is the doctrine that claims a man must have multiple wives sealed to him in order to obtain the highest salvation. That doctrine simply cannot be found in any of the standard works with the exception of Brigham Youngs canonization of section 132.

Are you ready to see what the footnote says?

Sit down and take a deep breath

You are not going to believe what these bastards  well meaning but disingenuous shepherds have put in the footnotes.

Here they are:

  1. See“The Family: A Proclamation to the World”Jacob 2:27, 30.

You have got to be kidding me! One passage from the Book of Mormon and NOT ONE PASSAGE FROM THE BIBLE OR D&C!

Just a link to the proclamation to the world from the modern corporate leadership!

Why provide a passage from the Book of Mormon instead of the New Testament or D&C?

Because scholars and apologists can claim that the Book of Mormon folks lived under a different dispensation and therefore had different commandments from God. If passages from the New Testament and D&C are  provided, it created a HUGE problem for the veracity of section 132.

Was it an oversight that they neglected to put the obvious scriptural references?

I can Guaran-DAM-tee that it was not an oversight. It was very calculated.

How about the other historical essay on polygamy that they posted on the official website. It is titled: Plural Marriage and Families in Early Utah

Here is the opening statement:

“The Bible and the Book of Mormon teach that the marriage of one man to one woman is God’s standard, except at specific periods when He has declared otherwise.1


The Bible and the Book of Mormon? Is it not at all relevant what the Lord has said to Joseph Smith’s generation about the proper standard of marriage?

Why no comment about what modern revelation in the D&C has to say about it?


Here is what that footnote has to say documenting that the Bible and Book of Mormon teach that monogamy is God’s standard for marriage-

  1. Jacob 2:27, 30. For instances of plural marriage in the Bible, see Genesis 16:325:129:21-3030:3-4, 9. See also D&C 132:34-35.

There it is again, the passage from the Book of Mormon. Then, instances of plural marriage in the Bible.

Where is the documentation for their declaration that the Bible teaches that monogamy is the standard of marriage?

Again, it become problematic if they provide evidence that the NT church of Christ that Joseph Smith was instrumental in restoring required monogamy as God’s standard of marriage under the New Covenant.

Is it an innocent oversight that in both of the opening statements in the two articles on polygamy, that not one of the five most important scriptural references is provided?


This was very calculated by the group of men that huddled together to decide how they can appear to be saying one thing that will be politically correct in today’s religious environment within Mormonism, when in fact they believe just the opposite.

You see, if they would have provided the five critical references that I pointed out, demonstrating that indeed monogamy really is the Lord’s celestial standard of marriage, then it would expose the fact that section 132 is a revelation from hell.

All of this comes at a time when the possibility of the legalization of polygamy is very real.



Please Unite In Prayer

June 25, 2015

Dear Friends

Some time ago I asked all of my readers to please pray for a little girl who had some significant health issues. As you know, she has been blessed exceedingly since then and I believe it was at least in part because of your united prayers in her behalf.

I am now asking everyone to take a few minutes and unitedly focus you faith and prayers for another friend that lives in a foreign country.

I just felt impressed to check in on this old friend that I had not heard from for a while and this is the response I got-

“Sorry i cant reply much at the mo. Wife been in emergency dept at hospital since monday. blood pressure 180/110 and a lot of aginy in the head. Had 2 CTscans and spinal tap to relieve spinal pressure. Not good. MRI will happen this morning. Insane week of driving back and forth, trying to care for kids- barely seen them, hospital, earn a living somehow…ok, no how. minimal sleep.
I’ve just got back from hospital…its 440am. Gotta somehow get to work at 815am. Exhausted beyond belif….popping a valium now.
Thanks for thinking of us”

I think some of us have felt overwhelmed and felt the extreme pressure, anxiety and fatigue this fellow is currently feeling. Please unite with me in praying for the safe recovery of this man’s precious help-meet and the restoration of order and sanity in his life.

Thank you



Two Kinds of False Prophets” Institutional vs. Non-institutional

June 22, 2015

It appears to me that Christ taught that there were various categories of false prophets.

Two of the categories of false prophets that he spoke of, can perhaps be differentiated from each other as institutional false prophets vs. non -institutional false prophets.

Non-institutional false prophets would be those that would rise up during the last generation spoken of in Matthew 24. These false prophets rise up outside of the hierarchy of the institution, to criticize and attempt to correct the institutional church and to lead people to the false Christ that they worship.

Institutional False Prophets

The first category of false prophet is addressed in the Sermon on the Mount in Matthew chapter 7 and 3 Nephi 14:15. In this sermon Christ speaks of the institutional false prophet who rises up through the ranks of leadership among Christ’s covenant people.

This type of false prophet may actually be called to serve by God and they enjoy the cloak of credibility (sheeps clothing) that comes from having been called by the Lord through revelation.

“Beware of false prophets which come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves”[1]

With this mantle of authority and perceived credibility they are able to deceive from within the flock, in positions of leadership authority. This is done through the use of unrighteous dominion and assumed authority. The thought that Christ allows, if not calls and authorized some  that He knows in His infinite foreknowledge, will rebel, to serve in positions of influence and authority, is an ominous concept. Yet the pattern shows up even in the heavens as we are informed that:

 “an angel of God who was in authority in the presence of God..rebelled against the Only Begotten Son

Certainly the Father knew that the angel of God was going to rebel. Why did the Father allow this angel to be in a position of authority? I have no profound answer other than that this appears to be the process that brings on the refiners fire  in eternity and on earth.

During the time of Christ’s ministry to the Jews, he referred to those Jewish Scribes and Pharisees that sat in “Moses Seat“. Although the KJV of the New Testament has Christ telling his disciples to “observe and do“, “all therefore whatsoever they bid you observe“, the Inspired Version however alters the wording and provides a little extra clarity:

“Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, saying, The Scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 

All, therefore, whatsoever they bid you observe, they will make you observe and do; for they are ministers of the law, and they make themselves your judges. But do not ye after their works; for they say, and do not. 

For they bind heavy burdens and lay on men’s shoulders, and they are grievous to be borne…. 

And all their works they do to be seen of men. They make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments, and love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, and greetings in the markets..”

The next observation and commandment that Christ makes about these leaders is that they love to be “called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi, (which is master.)” 

Christ then admonishes his disciples who will be taking the gospel to the nations to not make the mistake of allowing themselves to ever be called “Rabbi” because all are equal  brethren among Christ’s people and only Christ himself is the master:

 “But be not ye called Rabbi; for one is your master, which is Christ; and all ye are brethren.”

The above passage is arguably warning against pyramidal leadership structures that give undo adulation and submission to mortal church leaders because of their supposed authority.

For instance, having the congregation stand when the presiding authority enters the room is a dead giveaway that something is amiss and all of Christ’s disciple are not considered equal. Are you aware of any cults that participate in such “prophet worship”?

After Christ’s New Testament church became organized to take the gospel to the Gentiles, the same pattern would emerge among His disciples called by revelation and given “authority” and a mandate within the New Testament Church.

Peter’s denial of Christ and Judas’ betrayal of Christ both demonstrate that those that are called by God into the ministry are not infallible. The focus must always be on Christ, not his representative(s). It must be on the message, not the messenger.

The thing that makes this whole false prophet thing incredibly confusing is the fact that God does in fact use true prophets and give them the ability to speak in behalf of God.

“What I the Lord have spoken, I have spoken, and I excuse not myself; and though the heavens and the earth pass away, my word shall not pass away, but shall all be fulfilled, whether by mine own voice or by the voice of my servants, it is the same.

“For behold, and lo, the Lord is God, and the Spirit beareth record, and the record is true, and the truth abideth forever and ever.  Amen”.[2]

The key is to be able to discern when the servant of God is speaking for God or whether he is speaking for himself but making it sound as if he is speaking in behalf of God. Secondly, the focus and adulation should always be directed at the Creator, never at one of his creations.

Called of God and Appointed

Modern revelation speaks of a man who will emerge in the end times to set the church in order and establish the law of consecration prior to the return of the Lord. This true messenger of God is described as being “mighty and strong“.  Yet in the same passage, we are informed that Christ’s restored church would experience the rising up and eventually the falling by the shaft of death of a man that tries to “steady the ark of God” without specifically being called and ordained to do so.

The sobering thing about the false prophet that tries to steady the ark of God is that he had previously been “called of God and appointed“.

“And it shall come to pass that I, the Lord God, will send one mighty and strong, holding the scepter of power in his hand, clothed with light for a covering, whose mouth shall utter words, eternal words; while his bowels shall be a fountain of truth, to set in order the house of God, and to arrange by lot the inheritances of the saints whose names are found, and the names of their fathers, and of their children, enrolled in the book of the law of God;  While that man, who was called of God and appointed, that putteth forth his hand to steady the ark of God, shall fall by the shaft of death, like as a tree that is smitten by the vivid shaft of lightning.”

It is truly remarkable that there could be false prophets in the end times that have indeed been called of God and appointed!

It is difficult to not think of the LDS succession crisis in the context of the above prophecy.

Brigham Young’s calling and appointment by God to bear witness of the name of Christ and to publish the gospel[3] to the nations was eventually followed by his own claim to the presidency of the church. And yet his calling and appointment never appears to incorporate the role of presiding over a church.

Was he not called of God and appointed?

Yes he was.

Was he ever called and ordained to be a prophet, seer, and revelator and to preside over the high priesthood and the church?


Interestingly, Brigham and his best friend and Masonic brother, Heber, were probably the only two members of the original Twelve that were never ordained High Priests!

At the time of the succession crisis he initially claimed that the Twelve would be a temporary placeholder to preside over the church until Joseph Smith’s sons would repent and prepare themselves to preside over the church. Within 3 1/2 years after that he had himself voted in by the law of common consent as the presiding officer of the First Presidency of the church, still claiming to be a temporary Shepherd to oversee the flock and to keep the dogs and wolves out until the rightful  son of Joseph should be ready to fill the position.

In 1860 he made the following declaration, stating that he did not claim to be the legal successor to Joseph Smith:

What of Joseph Smith’s family? What of his boys? I have prayed from the beginning for sister Emma and for the whole family. There is not a man in this Church that has entertained better feelings towards them.

Joseph said to me, “God will take care of my children when I am taken.” They are in the hands of God, and when they make their appearance before this people, full of his power, there are none but what will say—’Amen! we are ready to receive you.’ 

“The brethren testify that brother Brigham is brother Joseph’s legal successor. You never heard me say so. I say that I am a good hand to keep the dogs and wolves out of the flock. I do not care a groat who rises up. I do not think anything about being Joseph’s successor.[4]

Clearly, Brigham acknowledged that he was not Joseph’s legal successor.

As the years passed, Joseph’s sons became a non-issue with regard to ever presiding over the Utah Saints. During this time, the collective memory of the Utah saints regarding the succession crisis began to dim as Brigham became bolder in claiming the revelatory powers of a prophet. He eventually claimed that all of his sermons qualified as “scripture”[5]:

“I say now, when they [his discourses] are copied and approved by me they are as good Scripture as is couched in this Bible . . . ” [6] 

“I know just as well what to teach this people and just what to say to them and what to do in order to bring them into the celestial kingdom . . . I have never yet preached a sermon and sent it out to the children of men, that they may not call Scripture. Let me have the privilege of correcting a sermon, and it is as good Scripture as they deserve. The people have the oracles of God continually[7] 

“Wicked Miserable Men hold the Legal Lease”

The JST version of the scriptures inform us that in the end times, during the times of the Gentiles, God gives the “legal lease” of His vineyard over to men who have indeed been called of God and appointed. Nevertheless, these temporary stewards are characterized as “miserable wicked men” who will be destroyed when the Lord and His servants return to the vineyard for the last time and the legal lease will be given again to the profitable servants that will bring forth fruit:

“And when the Lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, he will destroy those miserable, wicked men, and will LET [LEASE] again his vineyard unto other husbandmen, even in the last days, who shall render him the fruits in their seasons.”

From Brigham Young to Thomas Monson we have a long line of apostles who have been called and appointed by God. They held the legal lease of the vineyard. These apostolic servants have assumed that their calling incorporates the right to organize and preside over the Lord’s Church and to officiate in the saving ordinances of the gospel.

But is that true?

Can that be documented in the scriptures and the history of the church?

Under the same apostolic authority that Brigham Young and his fellow apostles held, there has been a continuous succession of apostolic leaders that have presided over the church for the last four generations since the martyrdom of the prophet Joseph Smith.

The First Presidency of the Church and the quorum of the twelve constitute the 15 men apostles that preside over the modern corporate Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints.

All of these men appear to have been ordained by the same apostolic authority and mandate that God gave to the quorum of the twelve during Joseph Smith’s ministry.

But what exactly was the authority and commission that Brigham and the other apostles received?

Before we investigate the answer to that question, we need to visit a prophetic event that provides historical context.

Times, Time and the Dividing of Time

One of the most prophetically significant yet least understood events of the LDS restoration movement had to do with the literal fulfillment of Christ’s prophecy in 3rd Nephi 16 wherein he foretold the taking of the knowledge of the fulness of the gospel to the House of Israel after the restored gentile church rejects the fulness. In order to comprehend how this amazing prophetic event took place during Joseph’s ministry, we need to understand the fulfillment of another amazing prophecy.

It is not a coincidence that it was exactly 3 1/2 years to the day from the time the Melchizedek priesthood was restored at the Morley Farm, until the Lord declared that the leaders and members of the restored church were condemned resulting in the fulness of the gospel/priesthood being rejected. That prophetic 3 1/2 year time sequence is referred to in both the Book of Revelation and the Book of Daniel.

timelinebook8 second period

It is because of the rejection of the fulness that the elders of the restored church did not go forth for the last time preaching the gospel in power following the solemn assembly and anticipated endowment in the Kirtland Temple. Nevertheless, a little over a year after the bewildering disappointment that followed the solemn assembly, Joseph Smith made a startling declaration to the saints while they were in the midst of apostasy and turmoil.

In 1837 Joseph Smith announced that something new must be done for the salvation of the church:

“In this state of things, and but a few weeks before the Twelve were expecting to meet in full quorum, (some of them having been absent for some time), God revealed to me that something new must be done for the salvation of His Church. And on or about the first of June, 1837, Heber C. Kimball, one of the Twelve, was set apart by the spirit of prophecy and revelation, prayer and laying on of hands, of the First Presidency, to preside over a mission to England, to be the first foreign mission of the Church of Christ in the last days.” [8]

 The “something new” that had to be done for the salvation of the church was different from the previous commission of going into the world with power and authority baptizing every creature. This new commission would be different.

The establishment of a foreign mission in England was the literal beginning of the fulfillment of the prophecy of Jesus Christ in 3rd Nephi 16.

“And thus commandeth the Father that I should say unto you: At that day when the Gentiles shall sin against my gospel, and shall reject the fulness of my gospel… behold, saith the Father, I will bring the fulness of my gospel from among them. 

 And then will I remember my covenant which I have made unto my people, O house of Israel, and I will bring my gospel unto them….I will remember my covenant unto you, O house of Israel, and ye shall come unto the knowledge of the fulness of my gospel.”

It is truly remarkable that after the Gentile church rejected the fulness of the Gospel in Kirtland in 1834, by rejecting the fulness of the priesthood and failing in their covenant of consecration, the Lord brought the fulness from among them and he began making preparations to have the “knowledge of the fulness of the gospel” taken to the House of Israel!

The nature of the authority of the quorum of the Twelve apostles who were to take the knowledge of the fulness of the gospel to the House of Israel was clearly stated by the Lord in section 112:

“For verily I say unto you, the keys of the dispensation, which ye have received, have come down from the fathers, and last of all, being sent down from heaven unto you.”

What dispensation from the fathers?

The Lord was clearly making reference to the secret ushering in of the dispensation of the Gospel of Abraham that had previously taken place in the Kirtland Temple on April 3 1836. The “fathers” spoken of in the above passage clearly refer to Abraham and Moses who secretly visited Joseph and Oliver and gave them the priesthood keys from the Old Testament Fathers pertaining to latter day Israel.

This is the patriarchal priesthood authority by which the quorum of the twelve apostles were commissioned to take the knowledge of the fulness to the House of Israel.

This event represented the promise God made to Abraham, that he and his posterity would be a blessing to the nations of the world. How? By taking the knowledge of the fulness of the Gospel to them in preparation for the return of the Lord and his servants back into the vineyard.

In July of 1838 the Lord commanded the original members of the quorum of the twelve apostles who had “fallen” to be replaced with the following four Elders (who, along with the other members of the quorum that would eventually heed the call, were very possibly from the “House of Israel” rather than being classified among the believing “Gentiles”:

  • John Taylor
  • John E Page
  • Wilford Woodruff
  • Willard Richards

In this mind-blowing revelation the Lord gives a very singular and limited commission to the twelve apostles which surprisingly consists of two solitary things:

1- Promulgate (Publish) the fulness of the gospel

2- Bear record of the name of Christ

Please read the following revelation very carefully noting what priesthood gifts, power, authorities and mandates they were and were not given beginning in the spring of that year when they crossed the great waters:

“VERILY, thus saith the Lord: Let a conference be held immediately; let the Twelve be organized; and let men be appointed to supply the place of those who are fallen. 

Let my servant Thomas remain for a season in the land of Zion, to publish my word. 

 Let the residue continue to preach from that hour, and if they will do this in all lowliness of heart, in meekness and humility, and long-suffering, I, the Lord, give unto them a promise that I will provide for their families; and an effectual door shall be opened for them, from henceforth.

 And next spring let them depart to go over the great waters, and there promulgate my gospel, the fulness thereof, and bear record of my name. 

 Let them take leave of my saints in the city of Far West, on the twenty-sixth day of April next, on the building-spot of my house, saith the Lord.

Let my servant John Taylor, and also my servant John E. Page, and also my servant Wilford Woodruff, and also my servant Willard Richards, be appointed to fill the places of those who have fallen, and be officially notified of their appointment.” 

Again, here is the long list of priesthood gifts, power, authorities and mandates that this mission over the great waters would consist of:

1- Promulgate (Publish) the fulness of the gospel

2- Bear record of the name of Christ

Please notice that the word “promulgate” essentially means to “publish” and perhaps to a smaller degree, promote.

What is missing in the mandate is the commission to baptize, ordain, organize churches, expound the scriptures, preside, rule, judge, collect tithing money, or do anything else.

Absolutely nothing is mentioned about doing any of those things or administering the saving ordinances of the gospel.

The commission given in section 118 differs drastically from the commission that had been given to some of the members of that quorum of the twelve back in 1831, when the fulness of the gospel was on the earth, long before they had been called to the quorum of the Twelve.

At that time the fulness of the gospel had not yet been rejected and therefore, authority to officiate in the saving ordinances, speak scripture by the power of the Holy Ghost and witness of Christ rather than just of His name, was part of their commission and mandate:

” MY servant, Orson Hyde, was called by his ordination to proclaim the everlasting gospel, by the Spirit of the living God, from people to people, and from land to land, in the congregations of the wicked, in their synagogues, reasoning with and expounding all scriptures unto them.

And, behold, and lo, this is an ensample unto all those who were ordained unto this priesthood, whose mission is appointed unto them to go forth—

And this is the ensample unto them, that they shall speak as they are moved upon by the Holy Ghost.

And whatsoever they shall speak when moved upon by the Holy Ghost shall be scripture, shall be the will of the Lord, shall be the mind of the Lord, shall be the word of the Lord, shall be the voice of the Lord, and the power of God unto salvation.

Behold, this is the promise of the Lord unto you, O ye my servants.

Wherefore, be of good cheer, and do not fear, for I the Lord am with you, and will stand by you; and ye shall bear record of me, even Jesus Christ, that I am the Son of the living God, that I was, that I am, and that I am to come.

 This is the word of the Lord unto you, my servant Orson Hyde, and also unto my servant Luke Johnson, and unto my servant Lyman Johnson, and unto my servant William E. McLellin, and unto all the faithful elders of my church—

 Go ye into all the world, preach the gospel to every creature, acting in the authority which I have given you, baptizing in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

And he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, and he that believeth not shall be damned.[9]


The difference between the commission and content in section 118 compared to section 68 is staggering.

Back in 1831 before the fulness had been rejected, the elders of the church had been commissioned to not just promulgate (publish)  the fulness of the gospel, so that people could read about what the fulness is, but to actually preach it while moved upon by the Holy Ghost, baptizing in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost!

Back then, before the fulness had been rejected, the elders of the church were authorized to actually bear record of Jesus Christ, not just bear witness of the PUBLISHED NAME of Jesus Christ.

“..and ye shall bear record of me, even Jesus Christ, that I am the Son of the living God, that I was, that I am, and that I am to come.”

Why were they allowed to witness of Jesus Christ instead of just his name?

Because the heavens were still open and there were those that were attempting to consecrate with a broken heart and a contrite spirit and therefore becoming sanctified and having the heavens opened. They were becoming literal witnesses of the resurrection of Christ!

If only they would have been faithful to the fulness and taken it the world in power while the Lord was near and the fulness was on the earth, Joseph would not have had to announce plan “B”, something “new”.

“Something new” had to be done now that the fulness had been rejected. It was going to need to provide nourishment (the word of God) to keep the roots of the tree alive for four generations until the fulness would return for the last time.

Seek Me While I Am NEAR

Once the fulness was rejected during the early Kirtland years and the heavens began to close, the apostate quorum of the Twelve could only be commissioned to witness of the name of Christ. This is why the Lord had encouraged the elders in 1832 to seek him while he was near:

“And again, verily I say unto you, my friends, I leave these sayings with you to ponder in your hearts, with this commandment which I give unto you, that ye shall call upon me while I am near—

  Draw near unto me and I will draw near unto you; seek me diligently and ye shall find me; ask, and ye shall receive; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.”

Why were the elders being admonished to call upon the Lord while he was near?

Because he was not always going to be near!

The limited commission given to the twelve apostles in section 118 of the D&C in July of 1838 is completely consistent with the prophecy of Christ in 3rd Nephi 16.

Only the “KNOWLEDGE” of the fulness of the gospel was to be taken to the House of Israel!

The “Little Season” of Chastisement and Learning

This is because God, with His infinite foreknowledge, knew that the church would be rejected with it’s dead shortly after section 124 would be given in Nauvoo, in 1841.

This is why God, following the rejection of the fulness by the saints, declared that the fulness of the gospel and the laws of Zion could not be lived for a “little season”. (in hindsight it is now apparent that the little season was to last for approximately four generations and that the little season is about to come to an end).

Since the church would be rejected as a church with its dead during the Nauvoo period, the saving ordinances of the gospel would no longer be administered.

It is important to realize that the saints were NOT being rejected by God, they were simply being rejected AS A CHURCH.

One of the main purposes of the Church is to ADMINISTER THE SAVING ORDINANCES OF THE GOSPEL.

The saints had lost the right to administer the saving ordinances of the gospel.

Nevertheless, God wanted the knowledge of the fulness of the gospel to be taken to the House of Israel during this little season so that this knowledge could be studied during the little season and people could prepare their hearts and minds for the time when the gentiles and the house of Israel repent and the fulness is once again restored to the earth.

In 1833, (D&C 100) the Lord had declared that Zion would eventually be redeemed but that first, the children of Zion must be chastised for a little season.

“And now I give unto you a word concerning Zion.  Zion shall be redeemed, although she is chastened for a little season.” 

This same declaration was reiterated in section 103, in 1834 

“VERILY I say unto you, my friends, behold, I will give unto you a revelation and commandment, that you may know how to act in the discharge of your duties concerning the salvation and redemption of your brethren, who have been scattered on the land of Zion;

 Being driven and smitten by the hands of mine enemies, on whom I will pour out my wrath without measure in mine own time.

For I have suffered them thus far, that they might fill up the measure of their iniquities, that their cup might be full;

  And that those who call themselves after my name might be chastened for a little season with a sore and grievous chastisement, because they did not hearken altogether unto the precepts and commandments which I gave unto them.”

 Notice in the above passage how the Lord was no longer calling it the Church of Christ, but rather acknowledging that it was the saints that were calling themselves by the name of Christ. (the name of Christ had been officially taken out of the name of the church in 1834 because of transgression) 

During this “Little Season” we are to be “taught more perfectly”

Once again in 1834, (section 105) the Lord reiterates that because of transgression, the saints must wait for a “little season” before the redemption of Zion can take place however He reveals that during this little season, the saints are to be taught more perfectly and thereby prepare themselves for the great endowment that will yet take place: 

“Therefore, in consequence of the transgressions of my people, it is expedient in me that mine elders should wait for a little season for the redemption of Zion— 

That they themselves may be prepared, and that my people may be taught more perfectly, and have experience, and know more perfectly concerning their duty, and the things which I require at their hands. 

 And this cannot be brought to pass until mine elders are endowed with power from on high. 

For behold, I have prepared a great endowment and blessing to be poured out upon them, inasmuch as they are faithful and continue in humility before me. 

 Therefore it is expedient in me that mine elders should wait for a little season, for the redemption of Zion.”

Have you taken the word of God that has been published for you as seriously as you need to?

Have you prepared yourself by reading and believing God’s holy word?

Have you been taught more perfectly by God’s holy word or have you accepted the polluted doctrines and interpretations of the modern apostles that have not been commissioned to override, alter and discount the holy and infallible word of God?

 There is Saving Power in the Word of God

 When I tell people that the fulness of the gospel had completely been rejected by the end of 1834 and that the church was rejected with their dead by God in 1841 and that the heavens have been sealed for four generations since the martyrdom, they often ask me what the purpose of the four generations that we are living in, is. “Are we not just treading water with no real reason to be here?” is often the question people ask.


We are not just treading water until something important happens? Or at least we don’t need to be and shouldn’t be. We have the remarkable opportunity to read, study, search and ponder the word of God with the promise of receiving the manifestation of God’s spirit if we believe.

The reason God had Joseph and Sidney canonize the Lectures on Faith as the doctrine of the church after the fulness was rejected is so that we can study the doctrine of faith and the true nature of the Godhead while studying the Book of Mormon and modern revelation during the little season of chastisement and prepare ourselves for when the light shines forth for the last time.

I can tell you that I have experienced this power that comes through the written word. It is real. It is powerful. It makes it easy to detect high profile people that are deceived and those that are intentionally deceiving others. I can detect them by the false doctrine they teach.

It is because of the power within the written word of God, regarding the gospel of Jesus Christ, that the apostate quorum of the twelve apostles were given the limited commission of publishing the fulness of the gospel to the world!

The written word of God explaining the fulness of the gospel is POWERFUL and REVELATORY.

God promised back in 1829, before the church was even formally organized that:

“..whosoever believeth on my words, them will I visit with the manifestation of my Spirit; and they shall be born of me, even of water and of the Spirit—” (Section 5 March 1829)


That unconditional promise from the almighty God was given about 3 months BEFORE the appearance of an angel to restore Aaronic priesthood authority and over two years before the fulness of the gospel was even restored!

That promise was available BEFORE the power and authority to provide all of the saving ordinances of the gospel were restored.

That promise has always been available to God’s children!

Have you been visited with the manifestation of the Spirit by reading and believing the words of Christ and the inspired words of His servants about the fulness of the gospel, as contained in the written word of God that has been promulgated for your spiritual benefit?

Many people have sacrificed so that God’s holy word could be published to the world so that you can prepare your heart and mind for the return of our Lord.

There is power in the word of God that opens the heavens with regard to being visited with the manifestation of God’s spirit. It leads to the true baptism of water and the spirit! If you believe on the words of Christ as contained in the Book of Mormon and the other scriptures, you will be visited with the manifestation of the Lord’s Spirit!!!

There are many readers of this blog that have been visited with the manifestation of the spirit and they know exactly what I am talking about. Perhaps there are readers of this post that have been touched by the passages of Gods Holy word in it and are experiencing the manifestation of the spirit as a result. If you have felt God’s spirit while reading passages of his holy word in this post, cling on to that spirit and continue reading God’s holy word. Go directly into the scriptures and become saturated in His holy word. Do not let go of the rod!

If you have been experiencing a crisis of faith it is because you have either not read and believed the scriptures that have been promulgated for your benefit, and therefore have not received the promised manifestation of the spirit, OR you have previously experienced the divine manifestation but have since turned your heart from the word of God and the accompanying manifestations of the spirit, and have allowed yourself to let go of the Iron Rod.

I implore you to please partake and continuously partake of the delicious fruit of the tree of life. Grab hold and keep hold of the Iron Rod.  God has had his word published to the world so that YOU can be more perfectly taught prior to the return of His servants into the vineyard. The best thing you could do once you have tasted of the word of God is to spend most if not all of your reading time in the holy scriptures instead of reading opinions and interpretations of bloggers like me.

This is why God mandated the limited commission of the apostate quorum of the twelve apostles in 1838,  in publishing the scriptures to the house of Israel. That commission was  so profoundly critical to the welfare of the human race, despite the fact that the fulness had been rejected by the saints and the church had been rejected by God [as a CHURCH] !

God still loves his people and is preparing them for the final dispensation when the light shines forth among those of the apostate church that sit in darkness.

There is power in the written word of God!

The great test taking place during this little season of limited gospel light, is that when messengers of God publish and deliver the scriptures to a new convert, the message from the LDS messengers is packaged with falsehoods that contradict the words of Christ within the written word.

Just like Joseph Smith, Mormon missionaries will be known for good and evil. They do good by taking the published word of God to the nations and witnessing of the name of Christ. They do evil any time they say or do anything that contradicts the word of God that they are delivering. They do evil anytime they teach precepts of men and false doctrines that contradicts the written word of God. They do evil any time they direct people to trust in the arm of flesh instead of the holy and infallible word of God.

I still sweat bullets when I think back about my experience as a missionary in the Bible belt showing my investigators the flip chart picture of the presidency of the church and the quorum of the twelve apostles and telling people that those men have the exact same power and authority as Joseph Smith and Peter James and John.

On the one hand the messengers tell the convert that the Book of Mormon and Doctrine and Covenants is true. On the other hand, they tell them that Christs church is fully restored, that saving ordinances are available and that living prophets and apostles sit in judgment with the ability to alter, contradict and override what is in the written word of God.

Some converts remain true to the word of God in the published scriptures, while many converts migrate their faith from God’s word to the leaders of the institution that publish the scriptures.

Some people feel the spirit as they read the Book of Mormon and join the church but they quickly discard the message of the gospel and the power of the written word in favor of putting their trust in the “arm of flesh”.

There are actually some people who embrace the Book of Mormon without ever joining the modern, corporate, apostate church. These people seem to have the spiritual discernment to recognize that the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and Covenants witness against the wayward shepherds.

The LDS missionaries are doing a great work in sharing the Book of Mormon with people. This is an important work that needs to be done! It has been commissioned by God. 

Sadly, some of these missionaries manipulatively use the word of God to direct the new converts faith towards supposed human priesthood authority. This is because they are instructed to do so by their leaders and ultimately, the apostolic brethren that have been called and appointed and sit in the seat of Moses.

Again, we see the insidious pattern of men who have been “called of God and appointed” and that “ make themselves… judges”. 

How insidious is it when men who have only been called and ordained to publish God’s word and to witness of the name of Christ, make themselves the judges of those that desire to accept and follow Christ?

How serious of a sin is it when they organize churches and claim that they are the restored Church of Christ when in fact God rejected church back during Joseph’s ministry!

How serious is it for them to claim that they have the Melchizedek priesthood and try to perform the saving ordinances when they have no power in their priesthood and have not been commissioned to do so?

Recently Apostle Dallin H. Oaks and Assistant LDS Church Historian Richard E. Turley visited Boise Idaho to address the concerns that some of the Mormons in that area have.

The responses to those criticisms are quite interesting when viewed in light of the documentation provided in this post.

In a future post we may consider some of their responses in light of what God has said in His published word.

Perhaps in another later post we will then consider the significance of the non-institutional prophets that are rising up at this time, during the last generation spoken of in Matthew 24 who reject the literal word of God regarding the restoration of Zion in these last days.

Keep Watching

[1] Matthew 7:15

[2] D&C 1:38-39

[3] D&C 118

[4] (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 8:69.)

[5] (Journal of Discourses, vol. 13, p. 264; see also p. 95).

[6] (Journal of Discourses, vol. 13, p. 264; see also p. 95).

[7] ,” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 13, p. 95).

[8] (History of the Church, 2:489.)

[9] D&C 68



Have you ever wondered why it took nearly five years for David Whitmer and Oliver Cowdery to obey the commandment in section 18 to “search out the Twelve”?

Think about it.

Their apostolic ministry missed the time of the fulness.

In June of 1829 the Lord commanded them to call the Quorum of the Twelve. Yet they did not get round to doing it until February of 1835.

Do you think that was a coincidence?

It wasn’t.

Perhaps you may think that some of the those that were called to be part of the original quorum did not join the church until after the fulness was lost in 1834.


All of the original Twelve had joined the church between 1831 and 1833. They all could have been called during the time of the fulness.

Clearly, the Lord was going to use the Twelve to do a preliminary work prior to the Marvelous Work and a Wonder that is about to take place. He was going to use the Twelve to take the knowledge of the gospel to the House of Israel and in the process, this apostolic authority was going to secretly reestablish the House of David and the ancient Kingdom of Israel.

Below is a listing of the original Twelve and when they joined the church. Notice that this apostate quorum is continuously in rebellion leading up to and during those years that the Lord commissioned the taking of the gospel over the waters.

Marsh would leave the church shortly after the revelation the Lord gave him in section 112 and the commission was given in section 118, Luke and lyman Johnson and John F. Boynton  had just previously apostatized, prior to section 118, over the failure of the Kirtland Safety Society along with William McLellin who had left the church for other reasons.

Thomas B Marsh  1830  (would leave the church October 1838-  was excommunicated in 1839)

David W. Patten 1832  ( would die in battle of Crooked River after commission in Section 118 in October 1838 )

Brigham Young  1832

Heber C. Kimball 1832

Orson Hyde  1831

William McLellin   1831- fallen 1838

Parley P Pratt   1830

Luke Johnson         1831- fallen 1837-8

William Smith   1830

Orson Pratt   1830

John F. Boynton    1832- fallen 1837

Lyman Johnson   1831- fallen  1837-38


Interestingly, out of the four replace apostles, only one had joined the church at a later time.


John  Taylor joined in 1836 He was born in England!

John E Page   joined 1833

Wilford  woodruff joined in 1833

Willard Richards  1836


The Lord never intended the work of the Twelve to take place during the 3 1/2 year period that the fulness was on the earth. He intended them to participate in the “something new” that would need to take place after the fulness was rejected.

Dont’ get me wrong. The original Twelve were given promises about participating in the great work during the 3rd watch. Those that are and will be faithful will have that opportunity. But first, the Lord used part of the original quorum and the four replacements to fulfill at least two ancient prophecies.


One of the truly mind-blowing historical tidbits that helps to demonstrate the difference between the dispensational powers at play between the calling of the apostles during the dispensation of the gospel of Abraham and the upcoming dispensation of the fulness of times, is the fact that an animal sacrifice had to take place in conjunction with the calling of Willard Richards to the apostleship

Here is the reminiscence of Wandle Mace regarding this event that took place in the Kirtland Temple in relation to the apostolic calling of Willard Richards:

The Quorum of the Twelve had been filled, but of the number selected one–Willard Richards–was in England and Joseph was instructing those present of that Quorum how they must proceed to prepare themselves, that they might ordain Willard Richards to the Apostleship when they should reach that country. Joseph told them to go to Kirtland and cleanse and purify a certain room in the temple, that they must kill a lamb and offer a sacrifice unto the Lord which should prepare them to ordain Willard Richard a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. Sidney made some remarks, when Joseph spoke with great power and spirit, said he, ‘I know the law’. To a remark made by Heber C. Kimball he said, ‘It will be the sweetest smelling savor you ever smelled.’ [Journal of Wandle Mace, typescript, Harold B. Lee Library, BYU, pg. 32.]

Interestingly, there are some who suggest that Willard Richards may have had some involvement in the assassination of Joseph and Hyrum Smith as well as the questionable circumstances around the untimely death of Samuel Smith.

Apostle Dallin H. Oaks vs. Denver Snuffer: “False Prophets are among us!”

June 15, 2015

In a remarkable turn of events, the LDS church has gone on the offensive against the claims and criticisms of Denver Snuffer and the Snufferite movement in what appears to be an effort to do damage control.

Approximately 22 months ago Denver Snuffer gave his address in Boise Idaho. (which I attended)

On June 13 2015, Apostle Dallin H Oaks and Assistant LDS Church Historian, Richard Turley Jr., showed up in Boise Idaho to address many of the criticisms that Snuffer and other wannabe prophets have leveled against the church over the years.

A recording of this event was apparently sent to John Dehlin who posted it on Mormonstories.

This is a mega historical tipping point in the sense that this type of thing has not happened in modern times that I am aware of. It is almost unheard of  in modern times that a General Authority of the LDS Church has ever personally engaged in any kind of debate or LDS apologetics that is specifically directed against a contemporary person or fringe movement. Although Snuffers name was never mentioned during the presentation for obvious reasons, he and some of his outspoken followers appeared to be the primary “false prophets and false teachers” that the Boise saints were being warned about.

The details behind this visit and what meeting this address took place in is not clear to me. It was clearly not a priesthood meeting since a woman gave the closing prayer.

For as long as I can remember, general authorities of the church have always stayed safely tucked away in their Ivory Tower while “scholars” and “apologists” who have written for FARMS and FAIR have attempted to address the really difficult questions from skeptics and apostates.

The format of the presentation was quite interesting with Oaks and Turley doing a tag-team presentation taking turns speaking. Turley would provide historical context and Oaks would provide doctrinal context.

This is clearly a historical event of significance that shows at least some degree of desperation on the part of church leaders regarding the fall out that is currently taking place in the church.

Despite the recent denial from a church leader in General Conference that lots of Mormons are leaving the church, this special appearance of an apostle and a historian, to respond to the criticisms made by Snuffer and others, seems to indicate that the claim at General Conference was disingenuous. It appears that the public acknowledgment from  LDS Church Historian Marlin Jensen a few years ago, is true. He claimed that because Google has made it so easy for members of the church to research and become aware of extremely challenging and disrupting historical and doctrinal issues,  the LDS Church is experiencing the greatest apostasy since the Kirtland Apostasy,.

One of the questions addressed had to do with the claim that the current corporate church is not the same church that was restored and does not have the same authority.

Oddly, Apostle Oaks answered that question with a question. Then who has the authority? He quipped.

I was shocked to hear Turley imply that the succession issue between Rigdon and the Twelve Apostles was determined solely by the vote of the people and that the nearly unanimous vote was an indication of God’s approval. That seems to contradict what happened during Old Testament times when Israel voted to be led by a king instead of a prophet. Although God allowed apostate Israel to have their King, it was contrary to the will of God and it was detrimental to Israel.

Turley did not spend much time attempting to force some kind of succession protocol scenario to justify the transition of authority from Joseph Smith to the Twelve Apostles, on which the veracity Oaks and his fellow apostles rests. In previous times the official response of the church would have been to do so, however, thanks to Google and a host of Internet bloggers, the masses are more educated now than they used to be and leaders of the church now realize they are dealing with a much more sophisticated and educated audience both in and out of the church.

I am not going to take the time right now to do a critique of the entire presentation but I highly encourage anyone interested in these issues to listen to the address that Oaks and Turley gave. It is really quite interesting and entertaining.


[Editorial Note: I just came upon an excellent review of the Boise Rescue by the “Searcher”. Enjoy  ]

For a follow up article regarding the two types of false prophets that Christ spoke of click on the link below


Two Kinds of False Prophets” Institutional vs. Non-institutional


Notable Emails #17 “Then shall the offering of Judah and Jerusalem be pleasant unto the LORD, as in the days of old, and as in former years.”

May 31, 2015


I was reading in Mal. 3 this morning when a peculiar phrase stood out to me in verse 4. 

4 Then shall the offering of Judah and Jerusalem be pleasant unto the Lord, as in the days of old, and as in former years. 

I was actually reading in the Book of Mormon where Christ is recounting the last two books of Malachi to the Nephites for the latter days. 

I was pondering what the offering that was made by Judah and Jerusalem could have reference too.  

My mind was recalling that during the 2nd Watch Judah had reference the the Latter-Day Saints gathered in from the foreign missions to England and such and how Jerusalem had reference to Kirtland. 

It was at that moment that my eyes saw the phrase “and as in former years.” 

I was reading this verse as if I was at the end of the 2nd Watch (which I am) and anciently Judah and Jerusalem had offered something pleasant unto the Lord and in former or recent years as well. 

This clearly has reference to the 2nd Watch and the LDS Foundation movement that Joseph started. 

As for the offering both ancient and in the former years I don’t know what the Lord has reference too. 

Could he have reference to the Scapegoat Doctrine, at least for the former years part? I don’t think the Scapegoat that Moses provided counts because Jerusalem wasn’t settled yet and Moses was from the tribe of Levi. 


My response:

I believe the Atonement offering/scapegoat offering was an interim offering that prolonged the days of modern Israel upon the earth after they broke the covenant of sacrifice (consecration)  that they had entered into.

This interim atonement offering was to prolong Israel upon the earth until the 3rd watch when the telestial and terrestrial people who only “begin to believe” but never actually accept the fulness of the gospel, will actually be offered as an offering and sacrifice as their bodies are slain and laying upon the ground (Isaiah 66:16 D&C 58:9-20)  and the elect will offer up an offering that will be pleasing unto the Lord. (Isaiah 66:20)

That final offering is spoken of in other places as well.

In Psalms 50 it speaks of the end times when God’s people are gathered who have made a “covenant .. by sacrifice” (Psalm 50:5) When these people call upon God He will “deliver” them. (Psalm 50:15)

A key word search of “covenant” and “sacrifice” links Psalms 50 to D&C 97

“Verily I say unto you, all among them who know their hearts are honest, and are broken, and their spirits contrite, and are willing to observe their covenants by sacrifice—yea, every sacrifice which I, the Lord, shall command—they are accepted of me.

For I, the Lord, will cause them to bring forth as a very fruitful tree which is planted in a goodly land, by a pure stream, that yieldeth much precious fruit.

Verily I say unto you, that it is my will that a house should be built unto me in the land of Zion, like unto the pattern which I have given you.

Yea, let it be built speedily, by the tithing (consecration) of my people.

Behold, this is the tithing and the sacrifice which I, the Lord, require at their hands, that there may be a house built unto me for the salvation of Zion— (D&C 97:8-12)

Psalm 51 agrees with Section 59 that the acceptable offering of the saints unto God is a “broken heart and a contrite spirit” (Psalm 51:17) That is the answer to your question right there. The is the offering that is pleasant to the Lord.

Thou shalt offer a sacrifice unto the Lord thy God in righteousness, even that of a broken heart and a contrite spirit.

And that thou mayest more fully keep thyself unspotted from the world, thou shalt go to the house of prayer and offer up thy sacraments upon my holy day;

For verily this is a day appointed unto you to rest from your labors, and to pay thy devotions unto the Most High;

Nevertheless thy vows shall be offered up in righteousness on all days and at all times;

But remember that on this, the Lord’s day, thou shalt offer thine oblations and thy sacraments unto the Most High, confessing thy sins unto thy brethren, and before the Lord.”

It appears to me that ancient and modern scriptures speak of the acceptable sacrifice by covenant (consecration) made possible by the daily sacrifice of a broken heart and a contrite spirit and the outer group ordinance (sacrifice-sacrament) of the Lord’s Supper.

Here is an excerpt from my book that addresses this issue with regard to the prophecies in the book of Daniel:

Prophetic Time Sequence #2

“. . . two thousand and three hundred days” (Daniel 8:14).

“Then I heard one Saint speaking, and another Saint said unto that certain Saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

And it came to pass, when I, even I Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man.And I heard a man’s voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision. So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.

Now as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep sleep on my face toward the ground: but he touched me, and set me upright. And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be” (Daniel 8:13-19).

How long does the daily sacrifice last before it is finally brought to an end by the transgression of desolation?

I would suggest that the above prophecy speaks about a 2,300 day period of time during which the daily sacrifice is made available through the restoration of the gospel and the grace of God’s spirit. Sadly, the daily sacrifice is mired with the transgression that results in the desolation of the sanctuary after it is cleansed. This 2,300 day period begins with the commandment to offer up a specified offering, and it culminates in a vision and the cleansing of the sanctuary. Sadly, during this time, a host of Saints, attempting to redeem the land of Zion, is trodden under foot.

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Figure #is a screenshot from an online date calculator showing that there is a time period of 2,300 days between April 3, 1836, and December 16, 1829. April 3, 1836, presents the date when the offering of the daily sacrifice came to an end. I am suggesting that December 16, 1829, represents the date the daily sacrifice was revealed and commanded in a revelation containing the “articles and commandments”[1] of the newly restored Church. Interestingly, the exact date of this revelation cannot be identified by any known historical documentation.

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This is one of the most obscure and most difficult prophetic time sequences found in the book of Daniel. I believe the 2,300 day period begins when the “daily sacrifice” is first revealed and it comes to an end on April 3, 1836, when the secret vision, in which the sanctuary was accepted by the Lord and is, thereby, cleansed by his presence, takes place behind the veil. However, as previously noted His appearance brings forth both a blessing and a cursing. The cursing delivers the Saints to the Levitical law, which, according to Joseph Smith, can only bring cursings[2] and the preparatory gospel. This would indicate that the Saints were being transformed over from the grace of gospel law, to the safety net of the law of mercy.

If we back up 2,300 days from April 3, 1836, it brings us to the date that the “daily sacrifice” is first revealed. Did anything of significance happen on that day? Was the daily sacrifice revealed on that day?

There is nothing of significance that historians have noted on that day. That is what I find so remarkable about this prophecy that is thousands of years old. When decoded, it not only leads us to the definition of what the daily sacrifice is, it also identifies the missing date of when a foundational revelation was given.

The Daily Sacrifice


One of the great mysteries that must be unlocked in order to understand the Book of Daniel is the meaning behind the word “Daily,” or what the translators have termed the “Daily Sacrifice.” This mysterious term shows up in five verses contained in three separate chapters in the Book of Daniel. The Book of Daniel informs us that Daniel was commanded to “shut up the words, and seal the book even to the time of the end” (Daniel 12:4).

Perhaps this is why the meaning behind the Daily Sacrifice and other prophetic events and terms within the book has been obscured and misunderstood by prophecy scholars. This is why the wording in these Daniel prophecies seems so convoluted. One is unable to interpret the meaning of these dark sayings based on the obscure narrative alone.

Bible prophecy scholars have guessed at the meaning of the term “daily sacrifice” and have, logically but incorrectly, assumed that perhaps it refers to the animal sacrifices and burnt offerings like the sacrifices that were offered anciently.

Even Ellen G. White,[3] who seldom came up speechless and without an opinion on any prophetic topic admitted that she did not have a clue what the term, “daily sacrifice” had reference to.[4]

I believe we are entering into the time of the end and that God, in his magnificent mercy, is now opening up to us an understanding of mysterious prophetic utterances that previously were shrouded in secrecy and obscurity.

I believe that modern revelation and the related historical events, reveal what the “daily sacrifice” is, and why it came to an end during the amazing secret visitation behind the veil in the Kirtland Temple. I believe the sealing up of the meaning of the term required the event contained in Section 110 of the Doctrine and Covenants to be kept secret for many years, and undecipherable for many years after the account was published.

When it is understood that the daily Sacrifice came to an end during the seven day sequence in the Kirtland Temple, the Book of Daniel becomes a prophetic testimony of the truthfulness of Section 110 and the LDS restoration movement.

The Daily


Words written in italic in the King James Version of the Bible, were not translated directly from the original text ,rather, they are inserted by the translators to give extra clarity, based on their interpretation of the text. This means that the literal translation of what is now translated as the Daily Sacrifice, was simply “the Daily.” Ellen White, a self-proclaimed prophetess and prophetic competitor to the prophet Joseph Smith, believed that the translators were not inspired to add the word “Sacrifice.” She believed the translation should have been left alone with just “the Daily.”

Apparently, Joseph Smith agreed with the translators with regard to the use of the term “daily sacrifice” because he did not change it or give additional clarity to it in the Inspired Version of the Bible or in any of his discourses.

The three chapters using the term “daily sacrifice” are contained in Chapters 8, 11,and 12 of the book of Daniel.

Obviously, the wording in the prophetic timelines given in the Book of Daniel is somewhat unusual and, therefore, can be interpreted in a multitude of ways. Another interesting thing, when dealing with prophetic timelines, is that there are generally multiple fulfillments of prophecy through religious history, and some may appear to fit the prophetic time sequences.[5]


Nevertheless, the Book of Daniel promises that at the time of the end, the wise will understand the cryptic prophetic meaning of the prophecies and the related timelines contained therein.

One of the great keys to unlocking the meaning in the cryptic narrative throughout the Book of Daniel is in identifying the contextual meaning of the term, “Daily Sacrifice” (also presented as “sacrifice”) which shows up at least six times in the Book of Daniel.


  • “Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away.”(Daniel 8:11)
  • “And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression.”(Daniel 8:12)
  • “How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation”(Daniel 8:13)
  • “. . . in the midst of the week he shall cause the [daily ]sacrifice and the oblation to cease.”(Daniel 9:27)
  • “. . . they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.”(Daniel 11:31)
  • “And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.”(Daniel 12:11)


A Broken Heart and Contrite Spirit


This term has befuddled prophecy scholars for centuries. Those who do not accept the revelations brought forth by the prophet Joseph Smith eliminate their chances of identifying the correct definition of the term. A simple keyword search of the word “sacrifice” in modern revelation quickly leads one to the explanation of what the ongoing, continuous sacrifice is that the Lord requires of his Saints who receive the fulness of the Gospel in the latter-days:

“Thou shalt offer a sacrifice unto the Lord thy God in righteousness, even that of a broken heart and a contrite spirit. And that thou mayest more fully keep thyself unspotted from the world, thou shalt go to the house of prayer and offer up thy sacraments upon my holy day; For verily this is a day appointed unto you to rest from your labors, and to pay thy devotions unto the Most High; Nevertheless thy vows shall be offered up in righteousness on all days and at all times; But remember that on this, the Lord’s day, thou shalt offer thine oblations and thy sacraments unto the Most High, confessing thy sins unto thy brethren, and before the Lord.” (D&C 59:8-12)

Mystery solved.

The end times sacrifice, when the fulness of the Gospel is on the earth, that is to be offered up on the Lord’s Day, as well as on an ongoing day to day basis, on all days and at all times ,is a broken heart and a contrite spirit. I believe that passage in modern revelation reveals that the “daily sacrifice” of a “broken heart and a contrite spirit” is the “daily sacrifice” of which the Book of Daniel speaks .

Interestingly, the Old Testament had already provided commentary which provides a second witness, but it can only be appreciated once modern revelation points to and defines the term as the daily sacrifice. Notice how David’s Psalm identifies the broken heart and contrite spirit as being the sacrifices to be offered up at the time of Zion:

“Have mercy upon me, O God, according to thy loving kindness: according unto the multitude of thy tender mercies blot out my transgressions. Wash me throughly  from mine iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin. For I acknowledge my transgressions: and my sin is ever before me. Against thee, thee only, have I sinned, and done this evil in thy sight: that thou mightest be justified when thou speakest, and be clear when thou judgest. Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me .Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to know wisdom. Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow. Make me to hear joy and gladness; that the bones which thou hast broken may rejoice.

Hide thy face from my sins, and blot out all mine iniquities. Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me. Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me. Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit .Then will I teach transgressors thy ways; and sinners shall be converted unto thee Deliver me from blood guiltiness, O God, thou God of my salvation: and my tongue shall sing aloud of thy righteousness. O Lord, open thou my lips; and my mouth shall shew forth thy praise .For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering.The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise. Do good in thy good pleasure unto Zion: build thou the walls of Jerusalem. Then shalt thou be pleased with the sacrifices of righteousness, with burnt offering and whole burnt offering: then shall they offer bullocks upon thine altar” (Psalms 51:1-19).[6]
The Book of Mormon has numerous references to this term as well. In 2 Nephi 2:7 we are informed that it is only those who offer up this daily sacrifice of a broken heart and a contrite spirit that will have the “ends of the law” answered in their behalf by the Lord sacrifice:

“Wherefore, redemption cometh in and through the Holy Messiah; for he is full of grace and truth. Behold, he offereth himself a sacrifice for sin, to answer the ends of the law, unto all those who have a broken heart and a contrite spirit; and unto none else can the ends of the law be answered” (2 Nephi 2:6-7).

Perhaps one of the most astonishing references to the broken heart and contrite spirit is in Ether 4:10 where we are informed that one of the great signs that the final work of the Father has begun is that people will once again manifest a broken heart and a contrite spirit.[7]

Again, one thing that makes this prophetic sequence unique from the other eight we are reviewing is that one of the dated events is missing.In this mathematical sequence the prophecy in the Book of Daniel would be revealing an obscure date that even LDS historians do not know!

If we back up exactly 2,300 days from April 3, 1836, it takes us to December 16, 1829.[8] If we do a keyword search to find out which revelations, and particularly the first revelation in which the term “broken heart and contrite spirit” is introduced, it amazingly shows up in Section 20 of the Doctrine and Covenants! This Section was known as the articles and covenants of the church and was introduced at the formal organization of the church in April of 1830.

“And again, by way of commandment to the church concerning the manner of baptism—All those who humble themselves before God, and desire to be baptized, and come forth with broken hearts and contrite spirits, and witness before the church that they have truly repented of all their sins, and are willing to take upon them the name of Jesus Christ, having a determination to serve him to the end, and truly manifest by their works that they have received of the Spirit of Christ unto the remission of their sins, shall be received by baptism into his church” (D&C 20:37).

This is absolutely incredible. Our search for the definition of “daily sacrifice” first led us to the commandment given in Zion, explaining what the term meant and the command to ceremonially offer the sacrifice each Sabbath. It also informs us that the broken heart and contrite spirit is to be offered continuously, even daily.

From there, our search to find the originating commandment in relation to this last great sacrifice of man, led us to the first foundational revelation which provides the protocols and saving ordinances of the restored church.

Embedded within the baptismal covenant protocol, are the requirements to come forth with a broken heart and a contrite spirit and make a public confession before the church that one has repented of all of their sins, are willing to take upon themselves the name of Jesus Christ, and have received  the Spirit of Christ unto the remission of their sins.

Interestingly, it is unknown when the original date of Section 20 is. The Joseph Smith Papers project site has this to say about the date of the revelation:

“The dating of the first completed draft of Articles and Covenants is uncertain . . .”[9]

If, in fact, this prophetic time sequence in the book of Daniel is referring to the original declaration that the Saints are to offer up a daily sacrifice of a broken heart and a contrite spirit, then we have recovered a previously unknown historical date by studying the ancient prophecies in the Book of Daniel!

Satan is Cast Down from Heaven

Before leaving the topic of this particular prophetic time sequence, it is interesting to note that Chapter 8 of Daniel provides a narrative of Satan being cast down to the earth to overcome the Saints of the latter-days and cause them to transgress and stop the daily sacrifice from being made. Let us revisit the passage in Daniel 8 with a few of the preceding Verses:

“And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant l and.And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them. Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down. And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practiced, and prospered. Then I heard one Saint speaking, and another Saint said unto that certain Saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed” (Daniel 8:9-14).

It may seem spectacular and undocumented to suggest that the casting of Satan out of heaven took place at the time of the LDS restoration but let me remind you about a very significant event that is often forgotten.

At the Morley Farm the priesthood brethren experienced some remarkable endowments of the spirit. Some of them even had the heavens parted and saw the Father and the Son. However, they also became oppressed and afflicted by Satan and his minions. Several people became possessed. Finally, Satan himself was literally cast down into the midst of these brethren .Note the following testimony:

“During the meeting the power of the darkness were made manifest in a remarkable degree . . . Joseph .Rebuked the spirit . . . from the house upon which the spirit left . . . and went outside, among the crowd of men standing near the door and made a swath among them several feet wide, throwing them violently to the ground. Joseph said this was the fulfillment of the scriptures where it says the man of sin should be revealed . . .”[10]

Joseph was declaring that the Saints of the restored church had just witnessed the literal fulfillment of the prophecy in 2 Thessalonians 2:

“Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand .Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition” (2Thessalonians 2:1-3).

Directly following the special conference, within just a few days after this amazing event, the Lord gave a revelation in which he said:

“And again, I will give unto you a pattern in all things, that ye may not be deceived; for Satan is abroad in the land, and he goeth forth deceiving the nations.” (D&C 52:14)


The Lord acknowledges that the casting down of Satan at the Morley Farm was quite literal and that Satan’s literal entry into this world was not a temporary event. He had truly been cast out of heaven and gone forth from the Morley Farm, deceiving the nations. End times prophecy was taking place.

The significance and literalness of the fulfillment of the above prophecy cannot be overstated. Satan was cast to the earth during the special conference at the Morley Farm. The vivid description provided above indicates that Satan literally created a “swath among them several feet wide, throwing them violently to the ground” as he stormed through a crowd of physical bodies, physically throwing them to the ground as he ventured into the earth to deceive the nations. Satan’s spiritual power upon the physical world as he cut the swath, violently throwing men to the ground, is consistent with the fact that, at the same event, a two hundred pound man was thrown across the room.

Years later, when the church was experiencing great turmoil in Nauvoo, Joseph would reminisce about the experience at the Morley Farm and exclaim:

“I have reason to think that the Church is being purged. I saw Satan fall from heaven . . . All these are wonders and marvels in our eyes in these last days. So long as men are under the law of God, they have no fears.”[12]

God’s promise, from 1829, that he would deliver the Saints over to Satan, was literally linked to and being fulfilled by the casting of Satan out of heaven, down to the earth. Sadly, the Saints were no longer under the law of the gospel for they had broken it.

The prophecy given by John the Revelator in Chapter 12 of the Book of Revelation provides commentary about what had just begun at the Morley Farm:

“And there was a war in heaven Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels. And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him” (Revelation 12:7-9).

The remainder of that prophecy is covered in detail in Chapter 10 and it explains in vivid detail what happens after the event. Mormon’s have been conditioned to believe that Satan was cast out of heaven in the pre-existence but that interpretation does not square with scriptures. Of course, it is possible that during the course of this mortal probation and the ongoing war with Satan, that he has been cast out of heaven multiple times.[13]Indeed the New Testament verifies tht he was lurking around in this world at that time. It also informs us that Satan is the God of this world.[14]
Regarding the timing of when Satan would “encompass the Saints round about” in conjunction with his fall from heaven, compare the wording between the text in Section 76 and the text in Joseph Smith’s poem about Section 76:[15]


D&C Section 76 25-29 Joseph Smith’s Poem about Section 76
“And this we saw also, and bear record, that an angel of God who was in authority in the presence of God, who rebelled against the Only Begotten Son whom the Father loved and who was in the bosom of the Father, was thrust down from the presence of God and the Son,
“And was called Perdition, for the heavens wept over him—he was Lucifer, a son of the morning. And we beheld, and lo, he is fallen!is fallen, even a son of the morning!
“And while we were yet in the Spirit, the Lord commanded us that we should write the vision; for we beheld Satan, that old serpent, even the devil, who rebelled against God, and sought to take the kingdom of our God and his Christ—“Wherefore, he maketh war with the Saints of God, and encompasseth them round about.”
“And I saw and bear record of warfare in heaven;For an angel of light, in authority great, Rebell’d against Jesus and sought for his power, But was thrust down to woe from his glorified state.“And the heavens all wept, and the tears dropp’d like dew,

“That Lucifer, son of the morning, had fell!

“Yea, is fallen! is fallen and become, oh, alas!

“The son of perdition, the devil of hell!


“And while I was yet in the spirit of truth,

The commandment was–Write ye the vision all out,

For Satan, old serpent, the devil’s for war,

And yet will encompass the Saints round about.”


One of the more profound clarifications in the poem is the fact that, after being cast down from heaven, Satan would make war with the Saints and encompass them ‘round about. According to the poem, that event of being encompassed about by Satan, was still a future event as of February 16, 1832, when Section 76 was given.

We have documented in this work that the event took place shortly thereafter. Truly, we are encompassed about by Satan and his minions to this very day and should be crying out mightily for deliverance. Those of us whoare watching and ready to receive the fulness when it is ushered inare in the same situation that the Saints were in at the beginning of the LDS restoration movement:

“And there are none that doeth good except those who are ready to receive the fulness of my gospel, which I have sent forth unto this generation” (D&C 35:12).

Indeed, the Saints must once again be  gathered by the servants of the Lord and have the fulness of the Gospel restored to them and to offering up the daily sacrifice of a broken heart and a contrite spirit before the Lord will once again appear to them in secret while the rest of the earth wallows in confusion and chaos.






[1] The “Articles and Commandments,” also known as Section 20 of the Doctrine and Covenants was used by the early missionaries to do prosylatizing. Lyndon Cook notes:Section 20 was considered, by the early missionaries, a very important document. Many of them recorded the revelation in its entirety in their diaries to be quoted in their preaching. Additionally, priesthood certificates stated that the bearer had been ordained “according to the Articles and Covenants of the Church.” When Lincoln Haskin desired to preach the gospel in 1832, a revelation stipulated that he should “be ordained and receive the articles and covenants which I have given unto you and some of the commandments that he may go forth and proclaim my gospel” (“Kirtland Revelation Book,” p. 10).[RJS, 31 n2.]



[2] “The priesthood of Levi consisted of cursings and blessing carnal commandments and not of blessings and if the preisthood of this generation has no more power than that of Levi or Aron or of a bishhoprick it administers no blessings but cursings. . .” (

[3] One of the leaders of the early Seventh Day Adventist movement


[5] Some prophecy scholars change the word days to years, etc.,  to arrive at the prophetic paradigms that they propose. My contention is that all of the time related words in prophecy are meant to be interpreted literally with the exception of any changes made by the inspired revison of the Bible done by Joseph Smith.

[6]See also Psalm 34.

[7] “Come unto me, O ye Gentiles, and I will show unto you the greater things, the knowledge which is hid up because of unbelief. Come unto me, O ye house of Israel, and it shall be made manifest unto you how great things the Father hath laid up for you, from the foundation of the world; and it hath not come unto you, because of unbelief. Behold, when ye shall rend that veil of unbelief which doth cause you to remain in your awful state of wickedness, and hardness of heart, and blindness of mind, then shall the great and marvelous things which have been hid up from the foundation of the world from you—yea, when ye shall call upon the Father in my name, with a broken heart and a contrite spirit, then shall ye know that the Father hath remembered the covenant which he made unto your fathers, O house of Israel. And then shall my revelations which I have caused to be written by my servant John be unfolded in the eyes of all the people.  Remember, when ye see these things, ye shall know that the time is at hand that they shall be made manifest in very deed. Therefore, when ye shall receive this record ye may know that the work of the Father has commenced upon all the face of the land. Therefore, repent all ye ends of the earth, and come unto me, and believe in my gospel, and be baptized in my name; for he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned; and signs shall follow them that believe in my name. And blessed is he that is found faithful unto my name at the last day, for he shall be lifted up to dwell in the kingdom prepared for him from the foundation of the world.  And behold it is I that hath spoken it.  Amen” (Ether 4:13-19).

[8]Give or take a day, depending on whichcalendaring parameters you use.

[9]“Articles and Covenants, circa April 1830 [D&C 20].” The Joseph Smith Papers (website). Retrieved from

[10] The Savior in Kirtland by Anderson, pg.76.

[11] Testimony of Zebedee Coltrin

[12]This observation by Joseph Smithparalled the Christ’s. He made the following observation during his earthly ministry, “I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.” Luke 10:18 this supports the supposition that Satan has fallen from heaven more than once and that those occasions accompany the preaching of the gospel(

[13] There is reason to believe that Satan must be lurking around the earth decieving the nations whenever the greater light is on the earth but not necessarily litereally here when it is not.

[14] 2 Corinthians 4:4.

[15]Joseph Smith, J. (n.d.). “The Vision.” Dictated to W.W. Phelps, Esq. Retrieved from One can gain great benefit by studying Joseph Smith’s poem side by side with Section 76. See:

Notable Emails #16 “the Lord wouldn’t give a young church such responsibility so early”

May 12, 2015


When ever I speak to others about the fullness of the priesthood and Morely’s farm I usually get the same response that the Lord didn’t give the fulness to JS until later in his life in Nauvoo.

It’s always the Lord wouldn’t give a young church such responsibility so early. He had to grow them up first.

I like how well they know the Lord and his will for his people. :)

So I thought to do a little research and see what the Lord’s pattern really was.

Mosiah 18

Alma baptizes the people. Then immediately afterward he’s commanded them to live what looks like a form of consecration

27 And again Alma commanded that the people of the church should impart of their substance, every one according to that which he had; if he have more abundantly he should impart more abundantly; and of him that had but little, but little should be required; and to him that had not should be given.

Then in Mosiah 26 Alma is given the promise of eternal life from God’s own mouth out of heaven.

20 Thou art my servant; and I covenant with thee that thou shalt have eternal life; and thou shalt serve me and go forth in my name, and shalt gather together my sheep.

So in that instance the Lord has a people willing to take upon them His name, they share their substance with one another and the Lord reveals from heaven that His servant shall have eternal life. There isn’t much more about that until Alma 13.

But it seems to me that with Alma after they’re baptized, they enter into consecration and receive of the fullness.

The same with the saints of the restoration movement.

I looks like this was the case with the saints of the New Testament time as well. After they were baptized unto the Holy Ghost in Acts 2 it says:

44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;

Moses, the same. He tried to give them the fullness after baptizing them in the Sea as stated in 1 Cor. 10.

2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;

But they rejected it.

So it seems that my superficial research has yielded me the pattern of the Lord in the matter. That He quickly moves to have His saints consecrate with him and receive of the fullness not much after their baptism.

So the idea that the Lord delayed his pattern for the Latter-day Saints is unfounded because He’s a God that changeth not.

Have you every researched out this pattern before. If so, have you blogged out it? Did I miss it somewhere? What’s missing in my approach?


My response

Great observations!

I have always maintained that the fulness happens very quickly once the gospel is restored and I have addressed the topic in different ways but I have not really approached it in the sense that you just did.

One of the most revealing topical searches a person can do in the D&C is to chronologically list everything the Lord says about the law of consecration, including the benefits of living it, and the consequences of not living it once it is commanded.

I think Latter day Saints in general have a huge blind spot with regard to the significance of the law of consecration and how serious of a group sin it is when the law is entered into and then rejected. This comes in part from the ridiculous temple ceremony that enables people to give lip service to the law without having to actually live it. I think many people actually think they are living consecration via their temple vows. The temple endowment offers the wealthy and sophisticated, a way to sacrifice without sacrificing. They can continue to own their mansions and cabins and toys and go on cruises and trips and enjoy class distinction while still thinking they are living the law of consecration.

I think one of the things I try to point out in the fifteen year timeline of Joseph’s ministry is that within two years after the knowledge of the fulness of the gospel was restored, along with the saving ordinances, , the fulness of the gospel/priesthood was restored which lasted for exactly 3 1/2 years before it was lost to the saints.

timeline book

(Click on Graphic to Enlarge)

During the preparatory two year period that preceded the fulness, between March of 1829 and June of 1831, even though the lineal priesthood offices were restored to perform the ordinance of baptism, the Lord informs us that “all flesh” was corrupt. (D&C 38:11) That declaration of the Lord is categorical and it included the baptized members of his restored church. In other words, something more was necessary to bring about sanctification.


timelinebook first period

The power to sanctify people did not emerge until  the 3 1/2 year period when the Melchizedek Priesthood  was restored in June of 1831. It was not until after the fulness was restored in 1831 that Joseph and others received the confirming of their oath and covenant and received  their sanctification (See D&C 84 & 88)

“The power and authority of the higher, or Melchizedek Priesthood, is to hold the keys of all the spiritual blessings of the church—” D&C 107:18


timelinebook8 second period

Getting back to your search in the Book of Mormon regarding the law of consecration and the pattern that you have found. It becomes apparent that any time a group of saints have the fulness, they are living consecration or getting ready to do so very soon. Conversely, there is another pattern that is provided in the Book of Mormon regarding Consecration having to do with the consequences of breaking the law once it has been entered into.

One of the most sobering historical events that is documented about this law is found in 4th Nephi where it informs us how and why the time of fulness came to an end among the Nephites after three and a half generations of being blessed by it.
1 AND it came to pass that the thirty and fourth year passed away, and also the thirty and fifth, and behold the disciples of Jesus had formed a church of Christ in all the lands round about. And as many as did come unto them, and did truly repent of their sins, were baptized in the name of Jesus; and they did also receive the Holy Ghost.
2 And it came to pass in the thirty and sixth year, the people were all converted unto the Lord, upon all the face of the land, both Nephites and Lamanites, and there were no contentions and disputations among them, and every man did deal justly one with another.
3 And they had all things common among them; therefore there were not rich and poor, bond and free, but they were all made free, and partakers of the heavenly gift.
10 And now, behold, it came to pass that the people of Nephi did wax strong, and did multiply exceedingly fast, and became an exceedingly fair and delightsome people.
11 And they were married, and given in marriage, and were blessed according to the multitude of the promises which the Lord had made unto them.
12 And they did not walk any more after the performances and ordinances of the law of Moses; but they did walk after the commandments which they had received from their Lord and their God, continuing in fasting and prayer, and in meeting together oft both to pray and to hear the word of the Lord.
13 And it came to pass that there was no contention among all the people, in all the land; but there were mighty miracles wrought among the disciples of Jesus.
15 And it came to pass that there was no contention in the land, because of the love of God which did dwell in the hearts of the people.
16 And there were no envyings, nor strifes, nor tumults, nor whoredoms, nor lyings, nor murders, nor any manner of lasciviousness; and surely there could not be a happier people among all the people who had been created by the hand of God.


24 And now, in this two hundred and first year there began to be among them those who were lifted up in pride, such as the wearing of costly apparel, and all manner of fine pearls, and of the fine things of the world.
25 And from that time forth they did have their goods and their substance no more common among them.
26 And they began to be divided into classes; and they began to build up churches unto themselves to get gain, and began to deny the true church of Christ.







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