Searching for the Holy Order and 23 High Priests- Part 3

July 12, 2009

Melchizedek Priesthood required to Establish Zion

The Commandment to go to Jackson County and preach along the way

Having reviewed the testimony of what took place at the special conference at the Morley Farm and acknowledging that all hell broke loose as the forces of good and evil, light and darkness, both battled for dominion among the Saints, and played an integral part in the bestowal of the highest priesthood, let us now evaluate what the Lord God of Israel had in store for this quorum of High Priests and those called to assist them.

Joseph Smith said, “the authority of the Melchizedek Priesthood was manifested and conferred for the first time upon several of the Elders. It was clearly evident that the Lord gave us power in proportion to the work to be done, and strength according to the race set before us, and grace and help as our needs required.” (History of The Church, 1:175-177)

According to Joseph Smith, this event represented the necessity of greater priesthood power and authority based on a specific work that needed to be done. It was an urgent work that had a specific time period to it. Hence his characterization of a “race” set before the Saints.

One of the amazing things we see in modern revelation is that once God gives a command, he expects the Saints to move with speed. Apparently, when the Saints take things lightly and don’t hasten to do God’s will, Satan takes the advantage.

Joseph Smith once made the following observation;

The moment we revolt from anything that comes from God, the Devil takes power.” (TPJS 214-5)

With the above statement as context, it is disturbing that there was so much doubt in the minds of several priesthood holders, including some that were given the highest priesthood, about the event that took place at the Morley Farm and the priesthood that was bestowed.

It is interesting to note that a specific and strict time frame was given, that had to be met, for the completion of both the Kirtland and Nauvoo Temples.

The same is true with the establishment of Zion. As we have discussed in previous posts, God gave a specific date by which time Zion was to be redeemed in Jackson County.

We will eventually discuss that date again with the new context that we have of what happened at the Morley Farm.

But what was the specific work that the 23 High Priests and their associates were to accomplish, that required the same priesthood that Enoch and Melchizedek had?

Amazingly, section 52 which is given the day after the conference ended, and was specifically addressing the conference attendees begins by saying;

Behold, thus saith the Lord unto the elders whom he hath called and chosen in these last days, by the voice of his spirit- saying: I, the Lord, will make known unto you what I will that ye shall do from this time until the next conference, which shall be held in Missouri, upon the land which I will consecrate unto my people, which are a remnant of Jacob, and those who are heirs according to the covenant

From the statements contained in this passage and others we are informed that the 23 High Priests were to travel to Missouri, the land that God is going to consecrate unto his people which are composed of two groups;

1-    Literal descendants of Jacob who bloodline has not been mingled among the gentiles nations…. IE, “The remnant of Jacob” (Nephites and possibly other remnants of Israel from other areas of the vineyard)

2-    Those literal descendants of Jacob whose bloodline has been mingled among the gentile nations…. IE, those who are “Heirs according to the Covenant” (Gentiles that enter into the oath and covenant of the priesthood)

Amazingly, one day after the completion of the special conference at the Morley Farm, the Lord is giving notice of the next conference which is to be held in Missouri!

The Lord then directs 21 of the 23 newly ordained High Priests and some additional elders to make preparations to leave their homes in Ohio and other places, and travel to the land of Missouri where, if Joseph and Sidney are faithful, God is going to make “known unto them, the Land of [their ] inheritance” (Joseph Smith Sr and John Whitmore are among the “residue” that are to remain in Kirtland and not travel to Missouri.)

It is no coincidence that Joseph and Sidney are paired up as the two who God will work through to make known where Zion is to be. It is no coincidence that they jointly are warned about being “cut off” together.

Why would God put these two individuals on notice, in a public revelation, that they, as a priesthood pair might be cut off at some future time regarding transgression?

Admittedly, they did successfully accomplish their journey and the identification of where Zion is to be. Nevertheless, one must wonder why God brought up the warning.

Interestingly, when David Whitmer is ordained as the President of the Church in Zion, the priesthood blessing that he receives informs him that if Joseph is “cut off”, he or his counselor will become the President of the entire church.  It is not surprising that at a later time in Kirtland, when apostasy breaks out and Joseph is accused of being a fallen prophet, several members of the Church would elect David to be the president of the Church.

Why would God, who has infinite foreknowledge of future events, make those kind of statements if there is not going to be a problem? Surely he knows that those statements will put people on edge and cause people to take a critical look at God’s Servants! Perhaps God wants the saints to take a critical look at what the servants are doing at some time in the future.

Such prophetic utterances cause people to look for transgression in Gods servants!

This is, in part, why people like Oliver and David became increasingly critical and outspoken towards Joseph and Sidney.

Is it possible that ancient prophecy speaks of a joint transgression that takes place between several anointed ones in the end times?

For those not familiar with the “atonement statute” and the “scapegoat doctrine”, wherein it was prophesied that several of God’s servants would be involved in an intercessory offering wherein they take upon themselves the sins of apostate Israel after latter day Israel rejects the fullness of the Gospel, in an effort to prevent them from being wiped of the face of the earth. (please click here to learn more.)

Just as the children of Israel were preserved by the intercessory atonement that Moses made, it was to happen again in the latter days by the one like Moses.

But getting back to section 52, How many times have you read section 52 without realizing that those who had just been called and chosen were the 23 High Priests that had just received the Melchizedek Priesthood at the Morley Farm?

Context is critical!

Read sections 52-65 now with the information you have just read about this amazing conference at the Morley Farm and it will become much more meaningful to you! This period of time during the early history of the Church will make much more sense to you.

Although I am going to provide a brief summary of some of the major things covered in these sections, I want to challenge you, to read and search them yourselves to find hidden treasures that are not discussed in this paper.

The reason I started this article with the inspired version that reveals that Moses was trying to institute celestial law and consecration, and the passages out of section 84 about how the Lord took the holy priesthood out of the midst of the children of Israel after they rejected the law, is because there is an incredible type and shadow pertaining to those ancient events and what took place between 1831 and 1836. (between 1831 and 1834 in particular)

Joseph Smith was trying to establish the higher law and create a Zion people just as Moses was trying to do.

Moses wanted so much to sanctify his people and for them to see the face of God. They didn’t want to see God face to face, they wanted to be told what to do by a prophet… or better yet, a ruler… a King.

Moses wanted to accomplish the same goal that Melchizedek and Enoch did. He wanted his people to become translated.

You will recall that Moses had a group of 72 Elders who had been called to help Moses and Aaron bear the burden of the children of Israel. In preparation for receiving the higher law, God allowed these elders to see him;

Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of
Israel: And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.

And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink. And the Lord said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.” Exod 24

When Eldad and Medad started prophesying one day, Joshua the son of Nun beseeches Moses to forbid them and others from prophesying. Moses reply was;

“… would God that all the Lord’s people were prophets, and that the Lord would put his spirit upon them!”

Joseph Smith, like Moses, was trying to prepare the elders to see God and become prophets! He wanted everyone to become spirit filled and to prophesy! (after all, “the testimony of Jesus IS the spirit of prophesy”)

This is why the school of the Prophets was instituted AFTER the Highest Priesthood was conferred for the first time in this dispensation.

Again, I highly encourage you to read sections 52-65 which all related to the word of the Lord concerning the newly called high priests and their calling to travel to Missouri for the next conference, preaching the Gospel along the way.

I am going to provide a brief summary and chronology of what took place in section 52 at this time and in part 4 I will briefly cover the remaining sections.

For those of you who, like David Whitmer and others of the early brethren may have your doubts about this amazing event that took place at the Morley Farm, you need to realize that if it was a grand delusion, then all of the revelations we are about to review, would also be false. Now is the time to come to terms with this event because this event is what gave the first laborers of the last kingdom the greatest power, the power by which they shall go forth to establish Zion when they return.

It is interesting to note that 21 of the 23 newly ordained High Priests are mentioned by name in this revelation and personally assigned companions and commanded to travel to Missouri.

As we read these, and the spirit unfolds to you why God was doing what he was, these passages will bear witness to you of the truthfulness of what took place at the Morley Farm;

It was God, not man, that called and chose these High Priests. Some were called while others were chosen:Behold, thus saith the Lord unto the elders whom HE hath called and chosen…” (52:1)

“I will” is the prophetic term God has given to pinpoint the time when the Servants will return to the vineyard and pull down the tower of the enemy and establish Zion. (See D&C 101:60 88:75):”
Saying: I, the Lord, will make known unto you what I will that ye shall do from this time until the next conference, which shall be held in Missouri, upon the land which I WILL consecrate unto my people, which are a remnant of Jacob, and those who are heirs according to the covenant.” (52:2)

There is a possibility that Joseph and Sidney could be “cut off” at some point in time: “in as much as they are not faithful they shall be cut off…” (52:6)

Despite the fact that God has called these brethren to be High Priests and Prophets, he holds their feet to the fire commanding them to teach nothing more than what the prophets and apostles have written; “And let them journey from thence preaching the word by the way, saying none other things than that which the prophets and apostles have written, and that which is taught them by the comforter through the prayer of faith.” (52:9)

The Lord prophesies here that this particular work that these high priests are involved in, having to do with consecration and the establishment of Zion, will be cut short in righteousness and will proceed again at a later time with judgment! Both the suspension and the resumption of this amazing work appears to takes place at the Lords house. Indeed, it would be suspended at the appointed time in September of 1836 after the Saints fail to successfully consecrate in Jackson and Kirtland. Yet the Lord would appear in righteousness at his house to accept the house to be used for the resumption of the work. (see section 110) We also know that the work will resume at his house (see section 112) and we know that he will come with judgment to his house (see section 133) “For thus saith the Lord, I will cut my work short in righteousness, for the days come that I will send forth judgment unto victory“. (52:11)

Lyman Wight, who was the first to be ordained as a high priest, is the third to be mentioned in this revelation, following Joseph and Sidney. Joseph of course is the one who performed the first ordination and was the mouthpiece through which God identified which elders were to be called to this high and holy priesthood. This is revealing a priesthood order pertaining to the redemption of Zion. Satan wants to sidetrack and destroy everyone he can, however, Lyman would be toward the top of the list. Notice the warning to Lyman, yet the prophecy about a successful outcome wherein Lyman will be faithful and made a ruler; “And let my servant Lyman Wight beware, for Satan desireth to sift him as chaff. And behold, he that is faithful shall be made ruler over many things.” (52:13

The Lord gives us a pattern in all things to help us avoid being deceived; (I will commentary on this below.) (52:14-19)

Two more are to be “ordained”. Since they were already elders, does this mean they were the 24th and 25th high priests to be ordained? If so, why weren’t they ordained a few days previous with the others? Perhaps they had increased in faith during those events while a few of the others decreased in faith as a result of the previous events! “And let my servants Newel Knight and Selah J. Griffin both be ordained, and also take their journey“. (5232)

It appears that the Lord does not want multiple sets of elders declaring the gospel to the same community or family. This could possibly indicate that it is not appropriate for someone to take years to think things over and go through multiple sets of missionaries; “…one man shall not build upon another’s foundation, neither journey in another’s track.“(52:33)

Idolatry and wickedness results when you don’t labor with your own hands! We learned that from the book of Mormon when a righteous king refused to live off of the efforts of others; “Let the residue of the elders watch over the churches, and declare the word in the regions round about them; and let them labor with their own hands that there be no idolatry nor wickedness practiced.” (52:39-40)

The Lord commands the Saints to assemble to rejoice upon the land of inheritance. He reveals something they were about to find out the hard way. Those encumbering the promised land were the enemies of God and his people. Who, but an all knowing God could have known that? “And thus, even as I have said, if ye are faithful ye shall assemble yourselves together to rejoice upon the land of Missouri, which is the land of your inheritance which is now the land of your enemies” (52:42)

Christ bears testimony of himself and promises that the faithful will be crowned and “lifted up” (“caught up- raptured); “Behold, I am Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and I will lift them up at the last day. Even so. Amen.” (52:44 see also 88:96-7)

In closing out part three of this series I want to make a few observations.

First, it is important to realize that a great work was beginning with these brethren. It was beginning not with their arrival in Missouri to have a conference and have the Lord identify where Zion would be established, it began with their ordinations and the spiritual phenomena and was followed by one of the most incredible missionary movements in the history of America. (of course we will find out later that this was laying the foundation for the beginning (or resumption, however you choose to view it) of the marvelous work that was to take place four generations later in the 3rd watch)

Secondly, in verses 14-19 the Lord gives us a “pattern” in all things by which the Saints could avoid being deceived.

Webster defines pattern thusly;

An original or model proposed for imitation; the archetype; an exemplar; that which is to be copied or imitated, either in things or in actions; as the pattern of a machine; a pattern of patience. Christ was the most perfect pattern of rectitude, patience and submission ever exhibited on earth.

Read, ponder and search the following passages;

And again, I will give unto you a pattern in all things, that ye may not be deceived; for Satan is abroad in the land, and he goeth forth deceiving the nations—

“Wherefore he that prayeth, whose spirit is contrite, the same is accepted of me if he obey mine ordinances. He that speaketh, whose spirit is contrite, whose language is meek and edifieth, the same is of God if he obey mine ordinances. And again, he that trembleth under my power shall be made strong, and shall bring forth fruits of praise and wisdom, according to the revelations and truths which I have given you. And again, he that is overcome and bringeth not forth fruits, even according to this pattern, is not of me. Wherefore, by this pattern ye shall know the spirits in all cases under the whole heavens.

I believe the Lord is telling the Saints how to discern between priesthood leaders that are bringing forth good fruit (including true doctrines and inspired advise) vs priesthood leaders that bring forth bad fruit ( including false doctrine and uninspired advise) and are not in harmony with the truth.

Several Old Testament passages prophesy of shepherds that eventually, lead the latter day Saints into the wilderness of darkness and deception in the last days.

We also know from the New Testament that the time would come when the Saints would not be able to “endure sound doctrine” and would reject the truth. (2nd Tim 4:3) Because of this, God would send “strong delusion”. (2nd Thes 2:11)

In the six verses above, God clearly warns the Saints how to discern leaders that lead the people astray.

Contrite spirit

The first key is that a righteous leader will pray with a contrite spirit and will obey the admonition of the confirmation ordinance, to receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Meek Language

When speaking, a righteous leader’s language will be “meek”.

Language will edify

When speaking, this person will edify his listeners, with the words of Christ from the scriptures that came forth out of the restoration movement, not his own philosophies and doctrines that contradict previous revelations.

Tremble under God’s Power

This person will tremble under the power of God. He will be a spiritual being that will show physical effects while the spirit of the Lord distills upon his soul.

Fruits of Praise and Wisdom based on revelations

This person will bring forth the fruits of praising God instead of himself and his favorite minions (the “the Arm of Flesh”). His efforts will be in getting people to receive personal revelation rather than in following the arm of flesh.

He will not claim that his own beliefs and philosophies and doctrines that contradict previous revelations, represent the mind and will of God, but rather, his sermons will be based on the revelations brought forth through the Prophet Joseph Smith during the restoration movement. His sermons would be based on the Book of Mormon and the Book of Commandments (including additional revelations that followed as contained in the D&C)

During the first six years of the restoration movement Joseph Smith had a very distinct style of speaking.

He had a contrite spirit.

His language was meek.

He would tremble under the power of God.

His sermons were always edifying and were based on what had been revealed in the Book of Mormon and particularly in the revelations he had received.

He was always praising the Lord God of Israel!

He brought forth good fruit!

In those early years, he once said of his management style, that he taught the truth and respected the agency everyone had to make their own choices and govern themselves; “I teach them correct principles and they govern themselves.” (quoted by John Taylor, Millennial Star, 15 Nov. 1851)

When asked why so many followed him, he replied; “It is because I possess the principle of love. All I can offer the world is a good heart and a good hand(History of the Church, 5:498.)

He also said;

I love to wait upon the Saints, and be a servant to all, hoping that I may be exalted in the due time of the Lord.” (History of the Church, 4:492. See also the following verse in the NT “Whosoever will be great among you, . . . shall be servant of all.“)

Joseph Smith spoke meekly, as a servant during those early years in Kirtland.

Some might contend that his style changed after the Kirtland apostasy during the later years in Far West and Nauvoo. If this is the case, I would suggest that it has to do with the “atonement statute” and “intercessory offering” doctrines spoken of in other articles.

Here is an example of what he sometimes sounded like during the Nauvoo period

“I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.” History of the Church, Vol. 6, pp. 408-409 (Sunday, May 26, 1844)

Does the tone sound a little different to you?

There are a multitute of statements I would love to share with you to demonstrate the bold, authoritative and intimidating tone that Brigham Young used to cajole the saints but I don’t want to get off on a tangent.

Prophecy seems to indicate that eventually there would be those who would arise to leadership positions in the Church who would speak as a harsh master, using arrogance, fear and intimidation to motivate others.

Miscellaneous Observations

I want to point out a few things about the concept of “consecration” and the concept of “Zion”.

Some of these issues have been prompted by observations and questions brought up by readers who have made comments on the blog.

First of all the two terms (Consecration and Zion) are not synonymous although they are deeply interrelated and codependent!

I believe we are seeing that the law of consecration was given BEFORE the highest priesthood was restored, yet the commandment to travel to Missouri to establish Zion was not given until AFTER the highest priesthood was restored. That is very significant.

This is why the New Testament church was able to attempt consecration under the apostolic priesthood, even though they did not apparently have the priesthood of Enoch and Melchizedek. They didn’t need the priesthood of Enoch and Melchizedek because they were not commanded to establish Zion at the time. The timing was not right for Zion to be established at that time and, they were not in the correct place geographically to establish Zion. The Zion established by Enoch, Melchizedek and Christ, were probably all located in what is now termed North America.

Although consecration IS a mandatory, not optional, requirement for the celestial kingdom, once it is given to an organized people, the outer commandment to live it is only given at certain times, according to the infinite wisdom of God.

We unofficially enter into the spiritual law of consecration at the time of baptism.

Those who give up their temporal name, put off the natural man, take upon themselves the name of Christ, become spiritually born again and become one with him, obviously become one with all other Saints who have become one with him. Therefore, everyone who has become baptized to the fullest extent of the term, has entered into the spiritual covenant of consecration.

During some dispensations God only speaks to his people in terms of individual salvation which involves faith repentance, baptism of water and the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost. During those times all saints have still entered into the spiritual law of consecration via the baptismal covenant.

During other dispensations he speaks in terms of “group salvation” with a strong commandment to enter into the outer, temporal covenant to consecrate and participate in a united order with other Saints.

Once a people are commanded to live consecration, if they don’t successfully do it quickly, within the very short time frame that God gives them, they will be overcome by Satan.

Once the Saints break a covenant of consecration while attempting to live it on sacred ground, they must ultimately flee from that land within a short period to time. This is why the Saints were driven from Independence, Kirtland, Far West and Nauvoo.

In part four we shall continue with our summary of the other sections pertaining to the amazing event that took place at the Morley Farm. Then we shall drill down on what God tells us about the importance of consecration. Finally, we will take a detailed look at what God has revealed about the three grand divisions of priesthood.

Praise the Lord God of Israel… the Servants are returning with the fulness of the priesthood to take up where they left off with regard to the establishment of Zion!

Part four is coming….

Keep watching.

Searching for the Holy Order and 23 High Priests- Part 4

The Highest Order of the Melchizedek Priesthood
makes you a Possessor of All Things


February 28, 2009

It has been awhile since I have posted anything on this site. I recently posted an article about the Fulness of the Father over on the Anarchy Site.

I also recently did a post over there about Trying the Spirits. That topic has been on my mind lately. In the post I mention a recent press release pertaining to the bright star currently in the heavens that supposedly heralds the emergence of Maitreya, a coming world teacher;

Bright star heralds the emergence of Maitreya the World Teacher
LONDON, January 22 /PRNewswire/ –

I included in the post, an article by Joseph Smith which talks about the seducing spirits in the earth and how important it is to be able to try the spirits. (I highly suggest you read the article by Joseph Smith on Trying the Spirits if you have not done so)

The Prophet begins his article with the following paragraph;

Recent occurrences that have transpired amongst us render it an imperative duty devolving upon me to say something in relation to the spirits by which men are actuated. It is evident from the apostle’s writings that many false spirits existed in their day, and have “gone forth into the world,” and that it needed intelligence which God alone could impart to detect false spirits, and to prove what spirits were of God. The world in general have been grossly ignorant in regard to this one thing, and why should they be otherwise. “For no man knows the things of God, but by the spirit of God.”

In the article Joseph Smith points out that virtually all groups have a distinctive spirit about them. There is a specific guiding spiritual force behind every religion and virtually every group.

I have certainly noticed that as I have taken the opportunity to speak with many people from many religions.

One day, years ago, a Jehovah’s Witness knocked on our door back when we were living in Holiday. I love speaking to anyone about religion so we got into an interesting discussion with her.

She was a very typical Jehovah’s Witness. By that I mean, she had the same spirit about her that all of the JW’s have had that I have spoken with over the years. She was guided by the exact same spirit they all are guided by.

About half way through the conversation I felt prompted to looked her in the eyes and asked “Why did you leave the LDS Church?”

She was surprised at the question because she had not said anything to indicate she had ever had anything to do with Mormonism. In fact she had gone out of her way to pretend ignorance about LDS doctrine. She said “what makes you think I used to be LDS?”

I didn’t answer her question; I simply said “you WERE ONCE LDS, why did you leave the Church?”

Finally she confessed that she had left the Church and proceeded to give us the details.

Strangely enough, the spirit about her was totally the one that governs the JWs. It was only through the prompting of the spirit that I knew she had previously been a Mormon.

Anyway, I have spoken to countless people from various churches over the years and I have noticed that although there are individual and unique personalities with differing doctrinal opinions even within the religious organization they belong to, there is a very distinct spirit that governs each organized group of people.

We live in a day when so much delusion and deception is going forth in the earth.

I have watched as “Christopher” the false prophet that claims to have brought forth the sealed portion has accumulated a following of believers, solely based on his charismatic personality and the scriptural ignorance of those that follow him.

Within days of posting the article about trying the spirits, one fellow replied to a post who claimed to have sacrificed all things. The implication of his remarks is that he has parted the heavens and received the greater things.. even the mysteries. He condescendingly let the group know that if they had been as enlightened as he has been, they would be discussing different topics. Which spirit guides this person? Only someone who can discern spirits can really know.

Also within a very short period of time, another person made a reply. She is a native America Woman that claims that God has revealed greater truths to her and she is to enlighten any of the darkened LDS people that will listen to her… which spirit is guiding her? Only those who can discern the spirits can really know.

I feel that within a very short period of time the amount of false spirits in the earth and the depth of deception associated with them will be magnified ten fold.

It is going to become increasingly important for people to know how to discern false spirits and how to avoid receiving false revelations.

With this in mind, I have asked my wife if she would be willing to share an experience she had years ago;


My experience in being deceived
By WaitingAndWatching alias Mrs. Watcher

With comments by OneWhoIsWatching

It was mid – 1980s. We had just moved from a two bedroom home into our new five bedroom home in Holiday, Utah and life was great! We now had a larger home, we had four wonderful kids and we were enjoying a very happy marriage.

My husband had recently been issued a computer by the company for which he worked. Although his personal goal had been to pass away of old age before learning how to use a computer, it had been mandated by his employer.

After finding out that it was not that difficult to use, he eventually discovered “infobases” a word crunching software program he purchased from Deseret Book that enabled him to search the scriptures. He used to lovingly refer to this computer and software program as his terrestrial urim and thummin.

He became a bit obsessed with and addicted to his new toy. There were some days he would get involved in his searching from sun up to sun down and then deep into the night.

He had a sales job with a quota. His boss said if he fulfilled his weekly quota by Wednesday, the rest of his time was his own. He spent nearly every spare minute searching the scriptures with the aid of the computer and then compiled the information and documentation of concepts he had learned into a book.

I remember a neighbor friend of mine asking me why the corner light in our house, where he studied the scriptures, was on until 2:00 in the morning so many times.

One day I went into my husband’s office and he looked at me as though he had had a profound epiphany.

He shared with me the conclusion he had come to.

I felt sick to my stomach.

He was suggesting that my religious paradigm might be wrong.

There were certain things in my belief system that I was positive would NEVER change.

Armed with the teachings of my youth and preconceived notions of “what was what” I declared;

“You are wrong”.

I then slipped away into the other room, closed the door and got on my knees to get a confirmation on what I thought the Spirit had told me.

During my prayer I got a strong spiritual confirmation that I was correct and that my husband was mistaken.

I triumphantly went back into his office and happily informed him of my confirmation.

I remember how calm he was and not even the least annoyed or threatened at my “profound answer”. He then asked me if I would be willing to do him a favor.

“What is it,” I asked.

“I would like you to read this list of scriptures, pondering them over, then go and pray the same prayer”.

I thought it was a rather strange request but had no problem doing it.

I remember saying, “Sure, fine.”

As I read the scriptures I could feel a subtle feeling taking place in my heart and in my mind, but outwardly, I was still convinced that I was right.

After finishing the passages I confidently knelt back down, knowing that the answer would be the same. Feeling somewhat defiant, I thought, “I will show him the error of his ways, I know my prayer will be answered.”

I went to my bedroom to pray. I had a spring in my step feeling like this was no big deal, I would get the answer I was expecting.

I was so sure I would be right that the consequence of if I was wrong never even entered my mind.

I was blissfully unaware that my life was about to change to a degree and manner that I never could have imagined.

This time as I prayed, I got the same strong manifestation I got before EXCEPT that this time, it was confirming just the opposite answer to me.

This time it was confirming to me that my husband’s interpretation of the scriptures was correct.

I was stunned.

I was stunned, not only that my husband’s interpretation was correct and the implications of this, but mostly, that I could be so deceived. How could I get two different answers to the same question and the exact same prayer?!?!

My mind went back to when I was 16 years old and had questioned if everything I believed in, as far as religion was concerned, was correct.

I had decided to read the whole Book of Mormon by myself and test the promise at the end of the book of Moroni. I read the entire book within a couple of months and, by myself, in my bedroom, knelt down by my bed, and asked if what I had read was true.

I received the most amazing witness with the burning in my bosom and my body and mind being illuminated and beyond a shadow of a doubt, knew it was, indeed, the word of God.

This and other experiences led me to believe that I could receive answers and would receive an answer to this current dilemma.

I fasted and prayed.

I knelt down in a depth of need from my Father that was one of the greatest needs for any answer that I had ever had. I told God;

I want the truth at all costs.

I really meant it. I didn’t care what the answer was; I just wanted to know the truth! I started reading at the beginning of the Doctrine and Covenants, feeling like I would find my answer there.

As I read in the D&C, I was reminded about what the Lord had told Oliver Cowdery in sections 8 and 9. I felt as though the words in these revelations were written specifically to me concerning this incredible dilemma I was having;

D&C 9:

7 Behold, you have not understood; you have supposed that I would give it unto you, when you took no thought save it was to ask me.

8 But, behold, I say unto you, that you must astudy it out in your bmind; then you must cask me if it be right, and if it is right I will cause that your dbosom shall eburn within you; therefore, you shall ffeel that it is right.

The Lord told Oliver that when he had a question, he needed to study it out in his mind.

The Lords statements to Oliver Cowdery helped me realize that the problem with my first prayer is that I had neglected to study things out in my mind.

I was also led to the words of Paul wherein he mentioned the importance of searching the scriptures and gaining knowledge so that I would have an accurate point of reference while studying things out in my mind;


“These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and asearched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.”

The Lord also told Oliver;

D&C 8 2 Yea, behold, I will atell you in your mind and in your bheart, by the cHoly Ghost, which shall come upon you and which shall dwell in your heart.

3 Now, behold, this is the spirit of revelation…

I realized that I had to search the scriptures and know if the interpretations of the scriptures by those teachers in my youth were correct or if what my husband was presenting to me out of the scriptures was correct.

I realized I couldn’t just ask, I had to study it out in my mind by searching the scriptures and gaining knowledge first and then asking the Lord and getting an answer in my mind and feeling it in my heart.

When I had prayed about the truth of the Book of Mormon, I hadn’t just asked, I read the entire book. I followed the formula that Moroni had given me in chapter 10 of Moroni:

3 Behold, I would exhort you that when ye shall read these things, if it be wisdom in God that ye should read them, that ye would remember how amerciful the Lord hath been unto the children of men, from the creation of Adam even down until the time that ye shall receive these things, and bponder it in your chearts.

4 And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would aask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not btrue; and if ye shall ask with a csincere heart, with dreal intent, having efaith in Christ, he will fmanifest the gtruth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost.

5 And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may aknow the btruth of all things.

I came to the conclusion that the second answer I got was the correct one because I took the time to search the scriptures and to prayerfully study it out in my mind instead of just asking.

It has now been nearly 20 years of intensive word search cross-referencing in the scriptures and I now have a much stronger testimony of the answer I got back then, I have also been blessed with a much deeper love and understanding of the scriptures. I know from my personal scripture searches that all 4 standard works testify of each other and they promise and prophecy of the same things.

I have gained a very strong testimony of the importance of searching the scriptures.

A couple of months ago a very dear person to me mentioned that he felt he was a good person and that he didn’t really need to study the scriptures. I shared the following scripture with him;

Alma 12

“9 And now Alma began to expound these things unto him, saying: It is given unto many to know the mysteries of God; nevertheless they are laid under a strict command that they shall not impart only according to the portion of his word which he doth grant unto the children of men, according to the heed and diligence which they give unto him.
10 And therefore, he that will harden his heart, the same receiveth the lesser portion of the word; and he that will not harden his heart, to him is given the greater portion of the word, until it is given unto him to know the mysteries of God until he know them in full.
11 And they that will harden their hearts, to them is given the lesser portion of the word until they know nothing concerning his mysteries; and then they are taken captive by the devil, and led by his will down to destruction. Now this is what is meant by the chains of hell.”

As we study the Word with heed and diligence, if we will not harden our hearts against what the Spirit reveals in the scriptures, we will receive the greater portion of the word until we know the mysteries of God in full.

We seem to be receiving a pattern of which comes first. Joseph Smith frequently seemed to ask a question based on questions that would surface while he was reading or translating the scriptures and then God would answer the question. He would get the answer to the question and then God would also give him more information.

Another experience I had about 4 years after the first experience I told you about, also had a profound impact in my life in the realization of one of the ways deception and discernment works and of the importance of having a strong foundation in the Word of God in order to avoid being deceived.

Before relating this to you I want to share a statement that is in my husband’s patriarchal blessing. It says “you will not be afraid of the truth.” He has never been afraid to talk to anyone and check out their claims or facts or opinions. So much so, that I have been fascinated at the different people that he has been willing to listen to.

Some of these people I would probably have prematurely judged and discounted. But the message is more important than the messenger and as the Apostle Paul says, we need to be willing to prove all things. He has been willing to dig into the scriptures and other historical documents in order to gain a more accurate understanding of what went on in LDS Church history.

Anyway, we were invited to go to someone’s house to listen to a speaker. For the purposes of this article I will simply refer to him as “Tolman”.

We joined several other couples, one of whom was a very good friend of the speaker. This same couple had told us, as we drove to the meeting together, that Tolman was one of the most knowledgeable and spiritual people they had ever met.

We were really excited to hear this person as we had heard so much about him even before our friends invited us to the presentation. This person had created a remarkable memory system that had been marketed nationwide. He had also written several popular books.

We walked into a large room and within a few minutes he proceeded to speak to us all.

My husband was perched with legs crossed just below where Tolman was seated. His head was bent upward and it appeared he was taking in everything that Tolman was saying.

Tolman began talking about the importance of Zion and said he had felt impressed to purchase some property in Jackson County.

He then began presenting a new form of consecration that involved groups of 12 couples. Polyandry was a part of this new system that Tolman was proposing, all of the wives in each grouping were to be married to all of the husbands in the group. My heart sank as I realized what was being proposed and as I noticed my husband intently listening to Tolman, I was worried that my husband might be believing it.

As I listened to the teachings of this fellow, and to the statements he was making, I had one of the most incredible experiences of my life.

In the room, the overwhelmingly good feeling and “spirit” was so thick you could cut through it with a knife. However, different scriptures that I had studied in the last several years came to mind and proved this fellow’s teachings were not correct.

In my heart was a feeling of peace as I was assured this man was deceived and was deceiving others. I had never supposed that the spirit and feeling attending false doctrine could feel so warm and intoxicating.

I was feeling confident in my answer but as I looked over at my husband a feeling of concern enveloped me because he had a faint smile and was listening intently to Tolman.

I worried that my husband might not be having the same supernatural experience I was having. As I sat there, the Holy Ghost was putting the scriptures in my mind that disproved the false doctrines being taught and it was bearing witness to me of the truth, yet I was also aware of the charismatic aura of the speaker and the warmth of the seducing spirit everyone was feeling.

Tolman kept talking, almost exclusively to and looking at my husband. He kept making comments about how much he connected with and liked my husband and that he could tell they were going to be fast friends.

I had a heavy heart and wanted to talk to my husband in private to tell him my experience, yet people were around us and there was no opportunity.

We drove home, I in silence, and my husband chatting away with the couple that had driven us and that admired Tolman so much.

We walked into our home and I immediately went to a back bedroom and prayed to God committing myself to Him and telling Him that if my husband believed Tolman and decided to follow this strange group into the wilderness, then I would give up my husband to follow God.


I then asked my husband to come into the back room alone with me so I could talk to him. I asked him;

“So….. did you believe this guy?”

He said,

“are you kidding? What a bunch of BS! Of course I didn’t… that guy is going to destroy a lot of marriages”

I burst into tears of complete relief and told him that it looked like he believed the guy. He said he not only didn’t believe him but told me he had a similar experience to that which I had. He felt that intoxicating warmth of the spirit and the magnetic personality of the speaker while all of the scriptures condemning the false doctrines being taught kept going through his mind.

I was overcome with the grace of God. This Tolman fellow had such an incredibly magnetic personality and spirit, if I hadn’t known the scriptures and hadn’t been blessed with the Spirit witnessing of the error of his teachings, I would have very possibly been deceived by his message.

Although this experience was unique and extreme, I have come to realize that a similar phenomenon happens frequently in church meetings from ALL branches of Christianity.

People are seduced into believing false doctrines because of warm and intoxicating feelings.

Again, the realization that the feeling in the room could feel so good and that the message could be so wrong had never occurred to me.

The thought of how we need to study it out in our mind (facts, in this case, of how the doctrine measured up to the scriptures) and in our hearts (feelings of the Spirit) were both imperative to not be deceived. Just having one or the other would not be sufficient for a witness.

The first time I prayed about my husbands conclusion, I had been greatly influenced by the “Traditions of my Fathers” (see D&C 93:39)

How grateful I am for this incredible experience in deception that God was kind enough to let me experience. I know that we are commanded to “prove all things, hold fast to that which is good”.

This has to do with ALL teachers.

I have learned to be more concerned with the message than with the messenger.

Many well loved and trusted people in or out of the church may say things that are not true. No matter what we are “feeling” we need to compare the doctrine that they teach with the scriptures. We need to use the four standard works as the measuring yard sticks to measure EVERY man’s doctrine. As Joseph Fielding Smith’s inspired statement that he made when he was president of the church states:

“It makes no difference what is written or what anyone has said, if what has been said is in conflict with what the Lord has revealed, we can set it aside. My words, and the teaching of any other member of the Church, high or low, if they do not square with the revelations, we need not accept them. Let us have this matter clear. We have accepted the four standard works as the measuring yardsticks, or balances, by which we measure every man’s doctrine.

You cannot accept the books written by the authorities of the Church as standards in doctrine, only in so far as they accord with the revealed word in the standard works.
If Joseph Fielding Smith writes something which is out of harmony with the revelations, then every member of the Church is duty bound to reject it.”
(Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, 3 vols., edited by Bruce R. McConkie [Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1954-1956], 3: 203.)

The Prophet Hosea made this profound observation;

My people are destroyed for lack of aknowledge: because thou hast brejected cknowledge, I will also reject thee… I will punish them for their ways, and reward them their doings…. they shall commit whoredom… for the bspirit of cwhoredoms hath caused them to err, and they have gone a whoring from under their God… therefore your daughters shall commit whoredom, and your spouses shall commit aadultery.

It was heart breaking to see the couples that were deceived by the teachings of Tolman because they were not familiar with the word of God.

Within less than a year, the attempt at Tolman’s version of consecration and Polyandry ended in heartache and the dissolution of several marriages. Many lives were shattered.

As we read the scriptures under the power of the Holy Ghost, the scriptures become our Iron Rod;

1 Nephi 15:

23 And they said unto me: What meaneth the arod of iron which our father saw, that led to the tree?

24 And I said unto them that it was the aword of God; and whoso would hearken unto the word of God, and would bhold fast unto it, they would never perish; neither could the ctemptations and the fiery ddarts of the eadversary overpower them unto blindness, to lead them away to destruction.

25 Wherefore, I, Nephi, did exhort them to give aheed unto the word of the Lord; yea, I did exhort them with all the energies of my soul, and with all the bfaculty which I possessed, that they would give heed to the word of God and remember to keep his commandments always in all things.

Nephi reveals to us what the iron rod is, that it is the word of God that would protect us from blindness and that we should hold fast to it.

The Holy Spirit validates and confirms what we learn in the scriptures. The mysteries we learn will not contradict them. I would like to end this testimony of mine by witnessing that the only way to “the Love of God” which is the Tree of Life is by holding on to the Word of God. This would be the words of the prophets in the scriptures which would be the measuring yardsticks for ANY revelations by ANYONE.

I realize that some people think the word of God spoken of in the above passage is limited to personal revelation; however, I have come to believe that those who bypass studying the scriptures leave themselves wide open to be deceived when they pray for personal revelation.

New revelations would never contradict previous revelations.

Observations by OneWhoIsWatching——————————–

The experiences that Mrs Watcher has shared have had a tremendous impact on both of our lives. I have really come to realize the importance of how God speaks to our Minds and our Hearts. I think this provides a checks and balances in discerning personal revelation.

It is so easy for human beings to become lop-sided in how we receive personal revelation. Some people rely almost completely on what they are feeling in their hearts. They quickly pray for an answer without searching Gods word and searching out and pondering what they are asking God about. This leaves a person wide open to being deceived.

Others do just the opposite. They approach prayer in a very left brain way, putting lots of thought and study into it without being sensitive to the Spirit and listening to the confirmation of the Spirit. This also leaves a person wide open to being deceived.

We must combine the heart and mind as we pray so that we will get the true answer back, witnessing to both our mind and our heart.

Revelation is a sobering undertaking…

In Ezekiel the Lord states that if the Elders of Israel come to the Lords anointed prophet and ask a question when in fact, their hearts are not right before God and they are practicing idolatry, God will give them a false answer. He will actually answer them according to the wickedness of their hearts;

Then came certain of the aelders of Israel unto me, and sat before me. And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

Son of man, these men have set up their idols in their h eart, and put the stumblingblock of their ainiquity before their face: should I be benquired of at all by cthem? Therefore speak unto them, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Every man of the house of Israel that setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the astumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to the prophet; I the Lord will answer him that cometh according to the multitude of his idols; That I may take the house of Israel in their own heart, because they are all estranged from me through their idols.” Ezek 14

David Whitmer tells of an amazing experience he had with the Prophet Joseph Smith. He reveals that even Joseph Smith got deceived from time to time, he learned that some revelations come from the devil.

We were waiting on Martin Harris who was doing his best to sell a part of his farm, in order to raise the necessary funds. After a time Hyrum Smith and others began to get impatient, thinking that Martin Harris was too slow and under transgression for not selling his land at once, even if at a great sacrifice.

Brother Hyrum thought they should not wait any longer on Martin Harris, and that the money should be raised in some other way. Brother Hyrum was vexed with Brother Martin, and thought they should get the money by some means outside of him, and not let him have anything to do with the publication of the Book, or receiving any of the profits thereof if any profits should accrue. He was wrong in thus judging Bro. Martin, because he was doing all he could toward selling his land.

Brother Hyrum said it had been suggested to him that some of the brethren might go to Toronto, Canada , and sell the copy-right of the Book of Mormon for considerable money: and he persuaded Joseph to inquire of the Lord about it.  Joseph concluded to do so.  He had not yet given up the stone. Joseph looked into the hat in which he placed the stone, and received a revelation that some of the brethren should go to Toronto, Canada , and that they would sell the copy-right of the Book of Mormon.

Hiram Page and Oliver Cowdery went to Toronto on this mission, but they failed entirely to sell the copy-right, returning without any money.  Joseph was at my father’s house when they returned. I was there also, and am an eye witness to these facts. Jacob Whitmer and John Whitmer were also present when Hiram Page and Oliver Cowdery returned from Canada .

Well, we were all in great trouble; and we asked Joseph how it was that he had received a revelation from the Lord for some brethren to go to Toronto and sell the copy-right, and the brethren had utterly failed in their undertaking.

Joseph did not know how it was, so he enquired of the Lord about it, and behold the following revelation came through the stone: ” Some revelations are of God: some revelations are of man : and some revelations are of the devil.” So we see that the revelation to go to Toronto and sell the copy-right was not of God, but was of the devil or of the heart of man.

When a man enquires of the Lord concerning a matter, if he is deceived by his own carnal desires, and is in error, he will receive an answer according to his erring heart, but it will not be a revelation from the Lord.” From David Whitmer, An Address to All Believers in Christ, p.30 – p.31 [It will be on slightly different pages in different editions of Whitmer’s pamphlet.  Emphasis added]

“Bring AGAIN Zion”

January 27, 2009

A few posts ago I talked about an exciting find in section 6 of the D&C that showed that Oliver and Joseph had been given a gift that would bring to light the existing ministry that Sidney Rigdon had been involved in.

In it we discussed how Oliver and his companions played an important part in bringing to light the ministry by taking the Book of Mormon to Sidney Rigdon and how Joseph Smith played an important part by giving a revelation which identified the fact that Sidney had been called to a great work without even knowing it, and that he would have an even greater work in the future. Additional revelations followed through the prophet which gave additional information about the past and future ministry of Sidney Rigdon.

I still feel that everything discussed in that post is applicable and perhaps even a shadow fulfillment of the prophecy for the 2nd watch however, I think there is more to it.

Recently I went back and reread the chapter and I drilled down a little further.

Although Oliver and his missionary companions were led to Sidney by personal revelation and although Joseph was acting as a prophet to receive the revelations that reveal who Sidney was… it occurred to me that the primary “gift” that the Lord was referring to was the gift of being able to “translate” ancient records.” It also occurred to me that the full understand of Sidneys calling was not really fully brought to light back during the 2nd watch.

Joseph had just translated the Book of Mormon with the help of Oliver as his scribe and Oliver had just been given the promise that at a future time he would get to translate ancient records as well… hence, Oliver also had, or would be given the gift of translation at a future time.

As I pondered this, wondering how the gift of translation had helped to identify Sidney Rigdons calling it occurred to me that perhaps two of the most important sections of scripture identifying Sidney’s calling are 2 Ne. 3: 17-18 in the Book of Mormon and JST Gen. 50: 24-38 in the Bible. Both of these speak about the “Spokesman” and his ministry and provide a point of reference for latter day revelation to refer to when revealing who Sidney is.

Oliver assisted Joseph as a scribe during the translation of the Book of Mormon and also for a while in the early stages of the Bible when Genesis 50 would have been done.

Certainly the gift of translation that brought forth the Book of Mormon and the inspired version of the Bible (JST) containing prophecies about Rigdons ministry is part of what the Lord was referring to as well.

Furthermore, the revelation in section 6 begins by stating that a Marvelous Work was about to come forth referring of course to the 3rd watch… I wonder if in the 3rd watch, perhaps Joseph and or Oliver will translate additional records that will shed further light and testimony on the past and future ministries of Sidney Rigdon, Gods Spokesman…. Something to ponder!


Moving on to another but somewhat related topic, there is an interesting article on wherein 3rd Nephi 21 is broken down and expounded on verse by verse.

Chapter 21 and the above mentioned commentary on it provides a compelling argument for the 3 Watches Doctrine because it shows with great clarity how there is going to be a future time when additional records come forth and a final gathering of Israel takes place and the gospel goes forth again. I encourage you to read it.

I do want to mention however, an alternative way to interpret a particular section of this chapter however;

Let me bring your attention to the following verses in this chapter that are mentioned in the above article;

And my people who are a remnant of Jacob shall be among the Gentiles, yea, in the midst of them as a lion among the beasts of the forest, as a young lion among the flocks of sheep, who, if he go through both treadeth down and teareth in pieces, and none can deliver. Their hand shall be lifted up upon their adversaries, and all their enemies shall be cut off.” (verse 12)

Many people often assume that the remnant that shall be among the Gentiles like a lion in the midst of sheep is referring to the mortal descendents of Lehi that we refer as the Lamanites. Below please see another quote from the article;

“The Lord has used the Lamanites in this manner before. (See 2 Nephi 5: 25.) Another prophecy that talks of the same event is found here:”

“And it shall come to pass also that the remnants who are left of the land will marshal themselves, and shall become exceedingly angry, and shall vex the Gentiles with a sore vexation. (D&C 87: 5)”

The above conclusion is a typical interpretation by many LDS scholars. It is certainly a logical conclusion to assume that the remnants who marshal themselves to vex the gentiles are the same people as is mentioned in verse 12 of chapter 21, however, I would suggest that the two prophecies are speaking about two separate remnants of Lehi.

Have you ever wondered why it is that Enoch and his people were translated and caught up after living the higher law of consecration and also Melchizedek and his people were translated and caught up after living the higher law of consecration and yet Nephi and his people successfully lived consecration but were not translated and caught up.. they each lived to a certain age and then died in the Lord.

I am going to suggest that the first two groups lived in the Old Testament times before the ministry of Christ while Nephi and his people lived during New Testament times during the ministry of Christ.

I believe Nephi and the righteous Nephites that established a Zion after the visit of Christ, had a different calling to perform than Enoch, Melchizedek and their people. Their calling required them to return in the 3rd watch to cleanse America and to built up the New Jerusalem. This is why they were not translated and caught up to be with the Zion of Enoch.

The righteous Nephites of the 1st watch are to unite with the righteous Saints of the 2nd and 3rd watches to redeem Zion and prepare the earth for Christ’s Coming in Glory. After they do this they will be caught up to meet Christ and Enoch and Melchizedek and their people in the clouds.

This is what the “strength of Gods house” is referring to in the parable of the redemption of Zion.

This is what the dispensation of the fullness of times is about… bringing all past dispensations together and gathering all things into one.

Let me give you a few reasons why I believe the remnant of Jacob that Christ visited is going to RETURN to the earth;

“they shall assist THIS the remnant of Jacob”

While speaking to the righteous Nephites the Savior said to them that when the Marvelous Work takes place the Gentiles that repent will help “THIS, the remnant of Jacob unto who I have given this land for an inheritance”. In other words Christ was speaking to the righteous Nephites and designating them as the remnant that the righteous Gentiles would assist in building up the New Jersalem in the 3rd watch. He was letting them know that rather than being caught up to be with the city of Enoch, they would be returning to the earth in the end times to help finish the work


“this gospel shall be preached among the REMNANT of this people”

Christ explains that it is AFTER the righteous Nephites, that he is speaking to, return to the earth that the “Gospel shall be preached among the remnant of this people” as well as all the tribes that have been lost and all of the dispersed of Gods people.

“They shall be gathered together against thee”

The Savior explains that when the nations of the earth gather to make war with the Saints it will include those righteous Nephites that Christ is ministering to in 3rd Nephi.

“Then shall YE who are a remnant of the house of Jacob go forth”

In the previous chapter the Lord made it clear that it was not talking about the posterity of the Nephites he was speaking to that would go forth among the gentiles as a lion among lambs but rather it was them! “Then shall YE who are a remnant of the house of Jacob go forth among them

“As a young lion among the flocks of sheep”

and YE shall be among them as a young lion among the flocks of sheep who if he goeth through both treadeth down and teareth in pieces and none can deliver.”

That analogy indicates that the army being spoken of will have zero casualties when they go forth destroying the wicked Gentiles. Although angry human Lamanites could go forth without casualties if the power of God was with them, the description makes more sense if it is referring to the righteous Nephites who are quickened and returned from the dead. After all, the prophecy in section 87 is talking about angry remnants who marshal themselves, they are not necessarily righteous people being marshaled by the Lord or his servants.

“when the Lord shall BRING AGAIN Zion.”

Back in chapter 16 of 3rd Nephi the Lord revealed that he would not be starting from scratch in establishing Zion during the 3rd watch but rather, he would be returning the righteous Nephites that lived consecration and established Zion back in the 1st watch! He would BRING AGAIN A ZION that had previously been established.

But if they will not turn unto me, and hearken unto my voice, I will suffer them, yea, I will suffer my people, O house of Israel, that they shall go through among them, and shall tread them down, and they shall be as salt that hath lost its savor, which is thenceforth good for nothing but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of my people, O house of Israel. Verily, verily, I say unto you, thus hath the Father commanded me—that I should give unto this people this land for their inheritance. And then the words of the prophet Isaiah shall be fulfilled, which say: Thy watchmen shall lift up the voice; with the voice together shall they sing, for they shall see eye to eye when the Lord shall BRING AGAIN Zion.”

This is a great key in realizing that the ministry of the Seer and the Spokesman in the 3rd watch is not just taking the word of God to the mortal remnants of Israel which includes the Lamanites, it includes bringing AGAIN Zion. It includes gathering up the strength of his house to go and tear down the tower of the enemy and then to fight the great battle when the whore gathers against them.

Clearly a mortal remnant of the Lamanites will become angry and will marshal themselves to vex the Gentiles and they play an important roll in the civil strive that will take place in the United States as mentioned in the prophecy in section 87 however that prophecy is not referring to the remnant of Jacob that is brought forth from the dust and marshaled by Gods servants to cleanse American and build up the New Jerusalem.

This is what Daniel was speaking about when he revealed that the stone would smash the toe of the kingdoms of the world before the stone would roll forth.

There is going to be a military strike by the strength of Gods warriors that begins the stone rolling forth.

The remnant of Jacob is going to awake from a deep sleep and brush off the dust and come forth to fulfill their calling.

Praise the Lord…

The Return of Sidney Rigdon, God’s Spokesman- 4th & Final Part

January 19, 2009

This is the testimony last of all that WE give of Him..”

Tribute to Sidney Rigdon by Onewhoiswatching 4th & Last Part

You are highly encouraged to read the first three parts of this series BEFORE reading this final part. You can view them on my other blog at the following links-

Part One

Part Two

Part Three

This is the 4th and last part of my tribute to Sidney Rigdon. Since his role cannot be understood without understanding the role of Joseph Smith, we will be addressing some critical issues pertaining to the life and calling of Joseph Smith as well. It has become painfully obvious that this paper is far from finished and will continue to be a work in progress.. feel free to check back for updates..

I have delayed this part if the tribute in part because I have so much information I want to put into it and I keep finding more that needs to be put into it.. it just always seems to be unfinished and incomplete. I have finally decided to simply post it in its current state and I will keep updating it until Sidney is here to make any necessary corrections and finish it himself.

If you have not read the previous three parts of this tribute and/or are not familiar with the information that I have previously provided concerning the 3 watches and the Marvelous Work and a Wonder that is about to come forth, to get the most out of the final part of this article, I strongly encourage you to first read the following things:

1- Read, ponder and believe every word contained in the Lectures on Faith. (which was probably authored by Rigdon) It is an inspired document. The information contained therein contains essential keys to understanding the nature of God and how his unconditional promises always come true because he knows all things and has already seen the future. It contains information about faith that was taught in the school of the prophets. It is the foundational information upon which some of the participants actually saw God the Father and his son Jesus Christ.

2- Read in chronological order every numbered scriptural evidence provided on along with the 1st, 2nd and 3rd parts of this tribute to Sidney Rigdon. The foundation laid in those articles is foundational to what is covered in this last part of the tribute.

If you have held Brother Ridgon and/or Brother Joseph in anything other than high esteem I suggest you repent speedily before they return. They are the Lords anointed servants of the last dispensation. As will be documented and explained later in this post, they have provided a temporal atonement for you and your forefathers as well as for the Kirtland Temple, the holy place and the altar. The Church would not be in existence today and the Saints of the restoration movement would probably have been swept off the face of the earth had it not been for their intercessory sin offerings.

3- Read the following articles. They are sprinkled with bits and pieces of doctrinal and historical information that will provide additional context for this final part of this tribute:

The Bridegroom Tarried …

Seven Shepherds and an Angel

A Mystical Look at the LDS Restoration Movement

Why have ye transfigured the Holy Word of God?

The Unrestrained Ponderings and Pontifications of a Heretic

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine

This last portion of this tribute will cover several general topics that all interrelate to the complex calling and life of Sidney Rigdon… and again, you cannot understand Sidney Rigdon without understanding Joseph Smith.

We will first review the astounding PROFILE that God provides in his Holy Word of Sidney Rigdon, the Spokesman from the Tribe of Judah that we uncovered in part 2 & 3 of this tribute. It provides a much different view of Sidney Rigdon than the official history of the church does.

Secondly we will review what the scriptures and the traditions of the Jews have to say about the two anointed messengers of the end times.  We will compare the different gifts and callings that they both had.

Joseph the Seer from the loins of Joseph and Sidney the Spokesman from the loins of Judah are the two last witnesses spoken of in ancient prophecy working in concert with each other to bring to pass Gods Marvelous Work. In Jewish tradition they are sometimes referred to as Messiah ben Joseph and Messiah ben Judah.

Thirdly we will solve the mystery of Joseph Smith. We will use ancient prophecy to identify the missing pieces of the prophet puzzle and identify why he became such a stumbling block to so many people. We will do this by providing a Biblical PROFILE of the Davidic Witness of the 2nd & 3rd watch. The profile we undercover may not seem logical but it is clearly presented in Gods Holy Word.

This profile will provide compelling scriptural evidence that Joseph Smith was exactly who he claimed to be, the last and final witness.

According to the profile contained in the holy word of God, the Davidic Witness of the Lord would obtain his calling and election and stand before God as a sanctified offering without blemish and then act out the sins of the apostate people he is providing an intercession for.

Like Moses of old, the one like Moses offered himself as an atonement for the sins of apostate Israel causing their sins to be artificially put upon him. In Joseph Smith’s own words, he sinned outwardly yet he contemplated the things of God.

According to the Biblical profile that we shall review, ancient prophecy foretold that the latter day descendent of David would commit iniquity before the Lord and be chastened by the rod of men AFTER he appointed a place for Gods people, establish his kingdom and build an house of God. According to the Holy Word of God, despite the fact that he committed the iniquities of apostate Israel, the Lord’s mercy shall not depart away from him.

Embedded within the Davidic Servant Profile we will review the literal interpretation of the Atonement Statute containing the Intercessory Scapegoat Doctrine. The Atonement Statute and the Intercessory Scapegoat doctrine will provide a second witness and in depth explanation for the Profile of Joseph Smith, the Davidic Witness as it solves the mystery behind the strange actions and seemingly contradictory actions of Joseph Smith.

It will shed light on why Sidney and Joseph became estranged. It will explain the enmity they had between them. It will explain why the Spokesman from the loins of Judah vexed the Seer and why the Seer envied the Spokesman.

It will explain why Joseph and Hyrum had to die a violent death and why Sidney became silenced and was rejected by the Church.

The Atonement Statute will show the principles of Sacrifice and Atonement were reinstated in the last dispensation through the martyrdom of Joseph and Hyrum, leaving Sidney Rigdon as the living scapegoat sin offering. (that takes the sins of Israel upon his own head)

The Atonement offering provided by Joseph, Hyrum, Sidneyand possibly others was in some ways similar to the atonement provided by Moses Aaron and Joshua when Moses was able to stay Gods hand in wiping the apostate Children of Israel from off the face of the earth.

It is revealed within ancient prophecy that Joseph & Sidney were able to stay Gods hand in wiping the apostate Saints of the latter days from off the face of the earth after they defiled the temple, failed to redeem Zion at the appointed time and broke the everlasting covenant.

We will review what section 124 tells us about the role of Sidney Rigdon in the 3rd watch and how his health problems will be healed by the Lord, his silence will be broken and he will once again raise his voice upon the mountains.

I separated section 124 from the first twelve sections that we reviewed in previous parts of this article because they were all given before the Kirtland Temple was defiled and the attempts to redeem Zion by the appointed time had failed.  Section 124 was given several years after the breaking of the covenant, after the prophesied blessing and cursing at the Kirtland Temple had taken place.

Fourth- After having a better understanding of the roles of Sidney and Joseph through the eyes of prophecy, we will review many troubling events of the history of the church that have baffled discerning gospel scholars for four decades. We will review the apostasy of latter day Israel that Sidney Rigdon testified of and see if the ancient prophets agree with the Lords Spokesman that the Lord’s Vineyard became corrupt. We will analyze the potential causes and events relating to the estrangement that took place between Sidney the Spokesman and Joseph the Seer.

We will review the reasons for the silencing of Gods Spokesman and how it led up to and interrelated with the martyrdom and the great succession debate. We will show that the real underlying issue of succession actually had to do with the spiritual wife doctrine and the law of common consent, not priesthood right of succession.

Even though the Seer and the Spokesman became temporarily estranged from each other in the 2nd watch and Joseph envied Sidney and Sidney vexed Joseph, they will return in the 3rd watch united and will complete the mission to which they have each been called.

Fifth, we will highlight and in some cases extract some fascinating information from a few obscure historical documents, some of which have been suppressed by people in high places. It is hard to believe that people would suppress the word of God and the words of his anointed servants but the scriptures reveal that in the last days “the rebellious shall be pierced with much sorrow; for their iniquities shall be spoken upon the housetops, and their secret acts shall be revealed.

These controversial documents that have been suppressed shall be brought to light and they will shed an amazing amount of light on Ridgon and the succession issue. The first is the speech that Sidney Rigdon gave in the April Conference just two months before the martyrdom wherein he was the primary speaker. Second we are making public, for the first time, the minutes of the speech made by Rigdon and taken down by Thomas Bullock in some kind of modified pitman shorthand…. thirdly, we will highlight some of the amazing things that took place in the trial of Sidney Rigdon and we will review a revelation purported to have been given by JS… a revelation that was apparently rejected by virtually everyone, even those who fulfilled their mandate to bring it forth.

Lastly, we shall review what God’s word tells us about the roles of the Seer and the Spokesman in the 3rd watch. We shall also briefly touch on the intriguing passage: “He whose right it is” as it may inter-relate to a descendant of King David that reigns over Israel.

The Profile of the Spokesman from the loins of Judah

In part 2 and 3 of this tribute we have reviewed what the Lord said about Sidney Rigdon in the following 12 sections of the D&C.

35 36 42 52
58 63 71 76
90 93 100 104

We have used the content within the above sections and the key words they produce to identify other scriptures with associated themes.

Using all of the information contained therein, we have created a detailed profile of Brother Sidney.

Having focused on what the Lord has said to and about Sidney Rigdon and having now used the information in those sections to point us to other scriptures that were identified via key word, key phrase and key topic searches, we now have a rather extensive profile of Brother Sidney.. and it is nothing short of amazing.

Please scroll down to see a brief, incomplete summary of the profile that we have created for the Lords Spokesman from the loins of Judah. Notice that his role carries over from the 2nd watch to the 3rd watch-

Viewing Sidney Rigdon through the Eyes of God’s Infallible Word

  • Prior to joining the restored church and receiving baptism and the priesthood, Sidney Rigdon was inspired by the Lord to do a great work in preparing the hearts and minds of hundreds of people to live the Law of Consecration and accept the restoration of the Church and Gospel.

  • The Lord appears to have accepted the Baptisms performed by Sidney Rigdon prior to his receiving the priesthood that had been restored to the earth by John the Baptist. Apparently had the right by lineage to provide at least a preparatory baptism and a preparatory gospel.

  • Through the principle of divine possession Christ laid his hands on Edward Partridge through the hands of Sidney Rigdon.

  • According to the words of Jesus Christ, those embracing the calling and commandment to preach the gospel needed to come before BOTH Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon to be ordained and sent forth.

  • Sidney is the one who is commanded to “Watch Over” Joseph Smith that his “faith fail not”.

  • Sidney is commanded to write for Joseph and to tarry and journey with him.

  • Sidney Rigdon is the great scriptorian and theologian of the restoration movement who was commanded to scripturally prove the validity of the revelations brought forth by the Prophet Joseph Smith .

  • The Lord gives Sidney Rigdon the honor of consecrating and dedicating the Land of Zion and the spot for the Temple of the Lord.

  • Joseph and Sidney are both blessed with the privilege of “laying the foundation for the future Marvelous Work and bearing testimony of the things which are to come to pass in the 3rd Watch.

  • Sidney and Joseph are both blessed with the gift of being able to expound the mysteries out of the scriptures.

  • The Lord made Sidney Rigdon equal with Joseph Smith in holding the keys of the kingdom.

  • Sidney and Joseph jointly held the keys of the School of the Prophets for the purpose of perfecting the Elders in their ministry for the salvation of Zion to take the gospel to those who believe among the nations of Israel and  the Gentiles. Sidney was the principle instructor of the school and is probably the primary if not exclusive author of what is known today as the Lectures on Faith.

  • Sidney Rigdon was given the honor and privilege of proclaiming the acceptable year of the Lord in the 2nd watch and shall do it again in the 3rd watch thereby bringing the elect who repent to salvation and those that reject the Servants of the Lord and fail to recognize the day of visitation under condemnation.

  • The Lord identified Sidney Rigdon as the great latter day spokesman ( possibly identifying him as coming from the loins of Judah) that Joseph of Egypt and Nephi prophesied about. This latter day spokesman was to minister with the latter day Prophet that is a Seer from the loins of Joseph of Egypt. In this calling the Lord blessed Sidney with the power to testify and expound all scriptures. The Lord acknowledged in 1841 after Sidney had spent years in the First Presidency and been silenced for a significant period of time that he would again lift up his voice upon the mountains and be a spokesman before the face of the Lord at a later time… in the 3rd Watch.

  • The Lord designated Sidney Rigdon as the defender of the faith commanding him to call upon the inhabitants of the earth and to confound his enemies both in public and in private to manifest their shame

  • Sidney was one of only a small select group of individuals during the LDS restoration movement who had a promise conferred upon him and his seed after him similar to the promises made to Noah, Abraham, and Jacob.

  • The Lord compares Sidney Rigdon to John the Baptist. The JST informs us that John the Baptist was the transmigration of Elijah the Prophet. Christ declared John to be the greatest prophet that ever lived.

  • God looked upon the works of Sidney Rigdon and heard his prayers. He promised Sidney Rigdon that he had been prepared to do even greater things than the first work he had already done.

  • The Lord calls Sidney to be an Apostle and to bestow the Holy Ghost like unto the Apostles of old

  • Sidney is promised that the greater work that he is to perform will take place during the Marvelous Work and a Wonder when the abominations of the Gentiles shall be manifest in the eyes of all people. He will cast out devils and heal the sick. It appears that when the Book that came forth from the mouth of the “Jew” comes forth for the last time in its purity, containing the vision of John, bound together with the stick of Ephraim, it will be the Spokesman from the loins of Judah that is taking it to the ends of the earth. The Book proceeds from a Jew ( probably refering to the historian and prophet, Moses who authored the first five books of the Bible) and finally in the end times is sent forth by Sidney Ridgon. “Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.” – (Zechariah 8:23).

  • He is the one spoken of by Ezekiel who has the priesthood right to reign as the Davidic Heir in the 3rd watch. He appears to be the one that holds the “key of David” and the sealing powers mentioned in Isaiah 22 and Revelation 3:7

  • Sidney beheld the glory of the Son of God on the right hand of the Father and received of his fulness (Joseph and Sidney are the only ones documented in modern revelation that received of the fulness of the Son and their calling and elections during the 3rd watch

  • Sidney was given the privilege of having the vision in concert with Joseph Smith that is contained in section 76. He is the one that was foreordained to declare the last testimony in concert with Joseph Smith to the world before destruction befalls the wicked.

There is an interesting chronology if you do a key word search of the word “kingdom” in modern revelation. Notice how the keys are at hand just prior to Sidney joining the Church. This was what John the baptist said referring to Jesus’ ministry, not his own;

“In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea, And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”
Then notice how the Church does not actually have the kingdom until the day Sidney shows up and receives the revelation from God identifying him as the minister that Joseph and Oliver were commissioned to find and publicly identify.
Lastly, notice that in the 3rd watch the kingdom will role forth from those to whom the keys of the kingdom had originally been given;
  • D&C 27: 4, 13 The keys of the kingdom for the last times and the fulness of times are held by Peter, James & John

  • D&C 29: 5 I am in your midst.. It is my pleasure to give you the kingdom… eventually

  • D&C 33: 10 Preach repentance and declare that the kingdom is at hand… it is soon to be made available
  • D&C 35: 27 Fear not little flock the kingdom is yours (it is not until Sidney arrives that the kingdom is available to the flock)
  • D&C 36: 2 I will lay my hand upon you by the hand of Sidney Rigdon- the spirit will teach you the peaceable things of the kingdom

  • D&C 42: 7, 65, 69 The kingdom is synonymous with the keys of the church

  • D&C 65: 2, 5-6 The keys of the kingdom are committed unto [two] men on the earth & from thence [those two men] shall the gospel role forth unto the ends of the earth in the 3rd watch as the stone which is cut out of the mountain

    Praise the Lord God of Israel for Sidney Rigdon the Spokesman and Joseph Smith the Seer..  Gods two anointed ones! (Zech 4:14)

    The Two Anointed Ones

    Messiah Ben Joseph & Messiah Ben Judah


    As the profile of the Spokesman (from Judah?) unfolds it becomes apparent in the context of his calling and his reciprocal relationship with the Seer from the loins of Joseph that these two individuals had been identified in the traditions of the Jews as what has become known as the two messiah doctrine. Here is a fascinating commentary from Malabim

    “Our Sacred Sages had a tradition that in the beginning [of the End Times] there would arise a Messiah [i.e. Anointed Saviour] from the house of Joseph who will reign over the Ten Tribes… all of Israel will be gathered together under his banner. [This will continue] until later on, a descendant of David will appear and he will reign over them….

    ..A transformation will take place. The Ten Tribes and the stick of Joseph will draw themselves closer unto the stick of Judah, and this too, will be through the agency of a Prophet and by miracles.. The Commentary of “Malbim” on Ezekiel 37:15

    Here is another interpretive view of the two messiah doctrine reprinted from “Light of the Nations

    © 1995 Light to the Nations, Rabbi Chaim Richman – All Rights Reserved

    Reprinted from The Restoration newsletter, September, 1995 (Tishrei, 5756)

    The Messianic Era: Mashiach ben Yosef and Mashiach ben David – Introduction

    In our last issue, we began to speak about the concept that in reality, there are two Messianic figures which are described in the written and oral traditions of Judaism: for the forerunner and harbinger of the final deliverer, the Messiah from the house of David, is the Mashiach ben Yosef… the Messiah from the house of Joseph. Belief in the appearance of the Mashiach ben Yosef is derived from Scripture and tradition, just as Mashiach ben David, who is descended from Judah. But what is the relationship between these two Messiahs, and how do they complement each other? Why is one Messiah not enough? What are the differences between them, and the similarities they share?

    In the last “Restoration,” we mentioned the war which is prophesied to take place around Jerusalem – the war of “Gog and Magog.” There is a tradition, supported by Scripture, that in the end of time – when good and evil have their ultimate confrontation – that the enemies of Israel will only fall to a descendant of Joseph. So it is Mashiach ben Yosef who will lead Israel to victory in the final war for G-d’s honor, the war of Gog and Magog. This is the true meaning of the verse, “The house of Jacob will be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau stubble. They will set them ablaze, and consume them; there will be no survivor of the house of Esau, for G-d has spoken (Ovadiah 1:18).

    “Ephraim’s envy will depart and Judah’s adversaries will be cut off. Ephraim will not envy Judah, and Judah will not harass Ephraim” (Isaiah 11:13)

    The verse we see above was declared by the prophet Isaiah concerning the special relationship between the two Messiahs – the initial Messiah, ben Yosef, and the final Messiah, Mashiach ben David.

    The simple meaning of this verse is that each figure has a specific role to play, and each one will eventually perform his task without jealousy.

    According to tradition, this initial Messiah will lead the fight against the hostile forces of Gog and Magog, and he will be killed in battle. He will be mourned by all Israel, as it is written: “They shall look to Me because they have thrust him through, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for his firstborn son” (Zech. 12:10).

    Of course, there is so much depth to the holy Torah, the word of G-d, that there are many interpretations to Biblical verses on ever-increasing levels of depths, and all are essentially correct, though varying interpretations may disagree.

    In this light we would mention that there is also another tradition, well-known to many of our readers, that these two verses also apply not only to the two personalities of the Joseph and Davidic Messiahs, but also to the reconciliation of Judah and Joseph/Ephraim on a national level as well… for it is widely held that the ten “lost” tribes (collectively known as ‘Ephraim’, and ‘Israel’ as opposed to ‘Judah’) who were exiled prior to the destruction of the First Temple were not really lost at all, but assimilated amongst the nations to such an extent that they totally lost their identity as Jews. There is overwhelming evidence throughout the Scriptures which substantiates this beyond any doubt, and it is particularly clear throughout the book of Hosea (“Ephraim, he has mingled himself amongst the peoples…” – 5:8). One of the major themes of every prophet of Israel is the fact that eventually, G-d will help these people to regain their identity, cleanse themselves from the twin sins of pride and idolatry, and reconcile with Judah, thus effectively re-uniting Ezekial’s “two sticks” and becoming one again with the Jewish people. “…and I will sift the House of Israel among all nations, as grain is sifted in a sieve, yet not the least grain shall fall upon the earth” – Amos 9:9″

    The concept of the Messiah is derived from the definition of “Mashiach.” “Mashiach” means “anointed one” in Hebrew. A person could be anointed in order to be consecrated for a special purpose.

    The idea of an anointed savior, of a “Mashiah” i.e. Messiah, is contained in the Prophets. The “Messiah” was to be descended from King David. He was to be the “Messiah, son of David.” In addition to the MESSIAH SON OF DAVID, a tradition existed that there would also be a “Messiah, son of Joseph” who would come shortly before the “Messiah, son of David.” The MESSIAH, SON OF JOSEPH was to be a descendant of Joseph, from the Tribe of Ephraim.

    According to the Biblical Commentary known as the Malbim (1809-1879), the MESSIAH, SON OF JOSEPH, was to head the Lost Ten Tribes in the latter days in the period leading up to the return of the Lost Ten Tribes and their eventual re-unification with Judah. (The full name of the MALBIM was Meir Leib ben Yechiel Michael [Weiser], but he is called “MALBIM” for short. He lived in 1809-1879 CE.)

    Zechariah refers to the two messianic messengers as the two olive trees…. two aanointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earthZech. 4: 14

    Having just reviewed the amazing profile we have created of Sidney Rigdon showing how he is to work in concert with Joseph Smith, and viewing this profile in conjunction with the two messiah tradition of the Jews and the acknowledgement by Zechariah that there will be two anointed ones that stand by the Lord of the whole earth in the end times, let us now recall what the Lord told Edward Partridge about how ALL MEN that want to accept the same calling and commandment to preach the gospel at the time of the sounding of the trump in the 3rd watch;

    “..SHALL COME BEFORE MY SERVANTS SIDNEY RIGDON AND JOSEPH SMITH, JUN.,” to be ordained and sent forth to preach the everlasting gospel to all nations..

    Please remember that anciently, King David had a seer who worked in concert with him;

    “All these which were chosen to be porters in the gates were two hundred and twelve. These were reckoned by their genealogy in their villages, whom David and Samuel the seer did ordain in their set office. “

    Are we seeing a pattern here? The priests had to come before King David and Samuel the Seer to be ordained. Remember how the Lord said in the D&C that all those who would go forth to preach the gospel much come before Sidney and Joseph.. the Spokesman and the Seer?

    Now lets review a most remarkable scripture in D&C 6 that we highlighted in a recent blog;

    “And now behold I give unto you (O. Cowdery), and also unto my servant Joseph, the keys of this gift, which shall bring to light this ministry.”

    Oliver Cowdery and Joseph Smith were told that they had the keys of this gift which should bring to light this ministry. The Lord was revealing that an existing ministry would be identified by Joseph and Oliver.

    We have already established the fact from previous parts of this tribute that Sidney had been called as a minister of Jesus Christ BEFORE ever meeting Joseph Smith!

    He held a special priesthood by right of lineage. His existing ministry was acknowledged and endorsed by the Lord God of Israel!

    Joseph and Oliver were given the privilege of finding and identifying Sidney Rigdon as the one who held priesthood by right of lineage.

    “Thou was sent forth even as John to prepare the way,”

    Notice the scripture does not give Joseph and Oliver the right to begin the ministry but to identify it and participate in it. This actually reveals that it was Joseph and Oliver and their small little congregation that is joining with Sidney rather than Sidney joining with Joseph and Oliver.

    This is really significant. Joseph and Oliver were given the gift and the calling to bring to light an existing ministry that was already in existence and separate from their own. They were joining with Sidney as much if not more than Sidney was joining with them.

    Joseph and Oliver  were to identify the ministry (and minister) that was currently doing a work! And then they were to assist in that ministry… in both the 2nd and 3rd watch!

    What happens next?

    1) Oliver Cowdery and his missionary companions take a Book of Mormon to Sidney Rigdon who declares it to be a revelation from God.

    2) Oliver Cowdery baptizes Rigdon.

    3) Rigdon visits Joseph Smith during their first meeting… the first time they ever met, Joseph pronounces a blessing upon Sidneys head and the Lord identifies Sidney as the one like John the Baptist who had previously been sent forth doing a work that was a preparatory work. He was preparing the way before Elijah and the Lord.

    4) Shortly thereafter the Lord identifies (through the Prophet Joseph Smith) Sidney Rigdon as the Spokesman from the loins of Judah prophesied about in the Book of Mormon.

    What is a ministry?

    According the Webster-

    Ecclesiastical function; agency or service of a minister of the gospel or clergyman in the modern church, or of priests, apostles and evangelists in the ancient. Acts 1. Rom.12. 2 Tim.4. Num.4.

    Did Joseph and Oliver use the keys of revelation Oliver had been given and the keys of Seership Joseph had been given to bring to light the existing ministry and the existing minister who God had previously called to do a preparatory work?

    YES!  (BTW Section 90 identifies Joseph and Sidney as having two completely separate ministries that work hand in hand when the Marvelous Work begins. )

  • Please remember that anciently, King David had a seer who worked in concert with him;
  • “All these which were chosen to be porters in the gates were two hundred and twelve. These were reckoned by their genealogy in their villages, whom David and Samuel the seer did ordain in their set office. “

    Are we seeing a pattern here? The priests had to come before King David and Samuel the Seer to be ordained. Remember how the Lord said in the D&C that all those who would go forth to preach the gospel much come before Sidney and Joseph?

    Is it beginning to make a little more sense why Joseph Smith was “partly” a descendant of King David but Sidney was a full blooded descendant of King David? The King and his Seer.

    The Jewish legends pertaining to messiah ben Judah are shrouded in mystery as are all of the legends having to do with the mysterious lineage of the Davidic Bloodline. From this we get the legend of the Holy Grail.

    There is something peculiar about the fact that the Lord sends Oliver Cowdery and others on a mission for the specific purpose of taking the gospel and the Book of Mormon to the Lamanites yet the mission to the Lamanites appears to be a complete failure while it results in the conversion of Sidney Rigdon and, ultimately hundreds of people that he has prepared to receive the gospel.

    The promise was that if the Lamanites received the book of Mormon, the Lord would establish his church among them… now think about it, the mission appears to be a total failure as far as the perceived group of Lamanites is concerned, yet the very person who is to ultimately take the gospel to the Lamanites in the 3rd watch is converted during and as a result of that mission!

    Consider the possibility that Sidney Rigdon is a full blooded descendent of King David and consider that the Book of Mormon reveals that the right to the Davidic throne migrated over to America via Mulek, the son of Jewish King Zeddekiah and mingled among the posterity of Lehi!

    By the time the 1830’s comes along the blood of the Book of Mormon peoples has mingled among many of the Gentiles. Is it possible that Sidney Rigdon has Lehite/Mulekite blood flowing through his veins?

    The Book of Mormon begins its story of the Mulekites where the Old Testament story of Zedekiah ends. Amaleki writes that Mulek, the son of Zedekiah and heir to the throne of David, came “out from Jerusalem at the time that Zedekiah, king of Judah, was carried away captive into Babylon.” (Omni 1:15.) Amaleki continues: “And they journeyed in the wilderness, and were brought by the hand of the Lord across the great waters, into the land where Mosiah discovered them; and they had dwelt there from that time forth.” (Omni 1:16; italics added.)

    The people of Zarahemla came out from Jerusalem at the time that Zedekiah, king of Judah, was carried away captive into Babylon. And they journeyed in the wilderness, and were brought by the hand of the Lord across the great waters. (Omni 1:15—16)

    The people of Zarahemla, who was a descendant of Mulek, and those who came with him into the wilderness . . . (Mosiah 25:2)

    The sons of Zedekiah were . . . slain, all except it were Mulek [and] . . . the seed of Zedekiah are with us, and they were driven out of the land of Jerusalem. (Helaman 8:21)

    The scriptures above are the only three references to Mulek in the Book of Mormon. The reference in Mosiah 25:2 is of interest because it specifically identifies Zarahemla as a descendant of Mulek. In other words, a direct heir to the throne of Jerusalem, Zarahemla, was ironically  found in ancient America and no doubt exists today. Does it exist in the form of one Sidney Rigdon?

    “the people of Zarahemla came out [not “were driven out”] from Jerusalem at the time that Zedekiah, king of Judah, was carried away captive into Babylon.” This would place the departure from Jerusalem of at least some of Mulek’s party, perhaps the bulk of it, sometime in late 586 BC, more than a year after the point suggested for teenage Mulek himself to have gone to Egypt.

    According to the Book of Mormon, when Jerusalem was destroyed by Babylon during the reign of Zedekiah, perhaps sometime around sometime in late 586 BC, all of the sons of Zedekiah were killed except Mulek. Along with “as many as would hearken unto the voice of the Lord,” Mulek escaped into the wilderness and traveled “across the great waters” to the Americas, founding a new nation. The Mulekites establish their capital at Zarahemla, north of where Lehi and his people landed.

    What are the chances that Sidney Rigdon could possibly be a descendent of King Zedekiah through the loins of Mulek? Would in not be poetic justice for someone of that bloodline to be the one to hold the keys of the ministry to that people?

    I realize this seems bizarre, but anything is possible in the Lord. speculating further, is it possible that the bloodline could have been in many of the people in the congregations that Sidney had prepared for the restoration movement?

    How odd that the promise was that God would establish his church among the Lamanites if they received the Gospel and the next thing that happens is that the Church of Christ that was organized by Joseph Smith is commanded to migrate from New York over to Kirtland where it will be established among Rigdons congregation. One would think that the Lord would have the converting congregations move to where the existing newly, legally established church was in New York.

    Of course this is all speculation and doesn’t necessarily matter one way or the other how Rigdon got his divine bloodline. However the Lord seems to test people by hiding a divine bloodline and having it crop up in the most unusual and disguised ways in order to test people.

    It appears that the Lord revealed this about Joseph and Sidney’s priesthood while they were working on the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible;

    Therefore, thus saith the Lord unto you, with whom the priesthood hath continued through the lineage of your fathers— For ye are lawful heirs, according to the flesh, and have been hid from the world with Christ in God— Therefore your life and the priesthood have remained, and must needs remain through you and your lineage until the restoration of all things spoken by the mouths of all the holy prophets since the world began. Therefore, blessed are ye if ye continue in my goodness, a light unto the Gentiles, and through this priesthood, a savior unto my people Israel. The Lord hath said it. Amen

    Look at how Rigdon’s real identity was so hidden and even the process of bringing his calling to light was very veiled in the 2nd watch so that a great test could take place in the 3rd watch. Realizing that many of the Latter day Saints are of the loins of Judah as well as many of the Lamanites, this give greater meaning to the following scripture which may have multiple types and fulfillments;

    Which is my word to the Gentile, that soon it may go to the Jew, of whom the Lamanites are a remnant, that they may believe the gospel, and look not for a Messiah to come who has already come.

    It is amazing how closely some scriptures seem to speak of Christ and his servants in such a close parallel that it is hard to distinguish whether the literal event in the scriptures is actually speaking of Christ or his servant. compare the following verse to Isaiah 11 wherein it appears to be referring to God’s Servant the root of Jesse;

    Wherefore, they that fight against Zion and the covenant people of the Lord shall lick up the dust of their feet; and the people of the Lord shall not be ashamed. For the people of the Lord are they who wait for him; for they still wait for the coming of the Messiah. And behold, according to the words of the prophet, the Messiah will set himself again the second time to recover them; wherefore, he will manifest himself unto them in power and great glory, unto the destruction of their enemies, when that day cometh when they shall believe in him; and none will he destroy that believe in him.

    Perhaps this is why we are told that whether it is by his voice or the voice of his servants it is the same… and why we are told that Christ laid his hands on someone via the hands of Sidney Rigdon…  divine possession?

    “The Lord shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up ajealousy like a man of bwar: he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies.” (Isa 42)

    Again, the important thing to remember is that all who desire to preach the Gospel for the last time in the 3rd watch must come before the Spokesman and the Seer.

    Are you going to accept the calling to preach the everlasting gospel to all nations when the 3rd watch opens up? The only way you can be ordained to do it is to come before the two anointed ones and be called and ordained by them.

    You have probably noticed by now that this tribute is really to the Lord God of Israel and how he can take people like Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon and use them in mysterious ways to bring about his purposes.

    This is a tribute to the holy and infallible word of God. It is a tribute to how God takes mortal fallible men and sanctifies them and makes them holy men and uses them to make intercession for their brethren…. sometimes covering the eyes of his holy Seers and making fools and fops out of them in the eyes of the world to bring to pass his glorious work.

    He did a preparatory work with them in their state of weakness and he will bring them forth in power during the 3rd watch.

    Is not Joseph Smith hated and despised by the world in general? Is not Sidney Rigdon held in derision in the eyes of most members of the Church? Yet God is going to use the weak things of the world to break down the mighty and strong ones.

    It is interesting to note that all 12 of the above mentioned revelations and the wealth of information they contain about Sidney Rigdon were all given within about 3 1/2 years after he joined the church.

    Section 76, also known as “The Vision” took place in February 1832, just a little over two years after he joined the church.

    After reviewing the profile created from the 12 sections of the D&C, other related scriptures and related events in the LDS history, it may seem almost overwhelming just how many honors and callings and privileges the Lord heaped upon his servant Sidney Rigdon the spokesman from the loins of Judah.

    With the exception of Joseph Smith, no one comes close to Sidney in the role he played in laying the foundation for the Marvelous Work that was to come forth four generations later. and the promise he has of the role he will yet play in the Marvelous Work is hard to comprehend.

    If you are LDS you may be scratching your head and wondering how you grew up in the Church without realizing that Sidney was virtually equal with Joseph Smith in both priesthood and the leadership responsibilities.

    In fact he was probably a mentor to Joseph in many ways in the early years of Joseph’s ministry including biblical scholarship.

    His efforts in preparing hundreds of people in Ohio to accept the restored gospel, teaching the school of the prophets, using the Bible to prove the accuracy of the modern revelations being brought forth through the Seer,  giving sermons, dedicating and consecrating sacred places, defending the faith, doing missionary work, giving blessings and priesthood ordinations makes him arguably every bit as important in the LDS restoration movement as Joseph Smith was.

    Yet it is remarkable that many Latter day Saints know precious little about the role Rigdon played, not to mention the future role he will play. The knowledge of Sidney Rigdon in the eyes of many Latter day Saints has been reduced to a handful of disparaging remarks that various individuals have peppered throughout histories and lesson manuals.

    Later in this tribute we will review how Sidney Rigdon fell from his esteemed position and became a maligned and virtually insignificant personality according to the sanitized version of the official history of the Church.

    Solving the Mystery of Joseph Smith


    Finding the missing pieces of the Prophet Puzzle

    The Reinstitution of Blood Sacrifice in the last dispensation

    The Intercessory Scapegoat Atonement

    I am ready to be offered a sacrifice for this people… Greater love hath no man than that he should lay down his life for his friends. You have stood by me in the hour of trouble, and I am willing to sacrifice my life for your preservation.” [George Q. Cannon, Life of Joseph Smith the Prophet (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1907), p. 498]

    … I was in the Grand Council and was chosen and ordained to this office to be the last and greatest prophet to lay the foundation of God’s work of the last or seventh dispensation

    This rather bold proclamation was rather indicative of Joseph Smith Jr., during the last years of his ministry. Many of his loyal followers believed, as he apparently did that he was the Davidic Servant spoken of in ancient scripture through which God would restore again the kingdom to Israel. (The scriptures seem to differentiate the Davidic Servant of the 2nd watch and the Davidic King of the 3rd watch)

    He was the last great prophet who was to reinstate Gods Law, gather Gods people and establish Zion preparatory for the Second Coming. In him the promises made to King David and the prophetic utterances of virtually all of the Old Testament prophets were being fulfilled. He declared that the testimony of Christ that he and Sidney Rigdon gave to the world would be the last testimony.

    Smith believed that he exclusively held the key of knowledge

    I have the whole plan of the kingdom before me, and no other person has

    I understand the fullness of the Gospel from beginning to end. I can teach it and also the order of the Priesthood in all its ramifications. ..”

    I testify that no man has power to reveal it but myself… things in heaven, in earth and hell…”

    This is consistent with his profile wherein God calls him to reveal things while Sidney is to Expound on them.

    He saw himself as much more than just a teacher or prophetic instrument in the Lords hands. He saw himself as a protector of the people.

    If I were not in your midst to aid and counsel you, the devil would overcome you

    Toward the end of his ministry when the flow of revelation through him to the general church membership had all but been turned off and he was being accused by many of his own followers as being a false prophet his response was;

    My enemies say that I have been a true prophet Why I had rather be a fallen true prophet than a false prophet When a man goes about prophesying and commands men to obey his teachings he must either be a true or false prophet. False prophets always arise to oppose the true prophets and they will prophesy so very near the truth that they will deceive almost the very chosen ones

    He also made statements to the effect that he had been seal up by the Holy Spirit of Promise and could not fall in the ultimate sense;

    Earth and hell have opposed me and tried to destroy me but they have not done it and they never will

    “I prophesy and bear record this morning that all the combined powers of earth and hell shall not and cannot ever overthrow or overcome this boy, for I have the promise from the eternal God.”

    Acknowledging the Mysterious Prophet Puzzle

    In her provocative 1974 essay, “The Prophet Puzzle: Suggestions Leading toward a More Comprehensive Interpretation of Joseph Smith,” Jan Shipps faced the anomalies in the historical record concerning Smith, noting that “[w]hat we have in Mormon historiography is two Josephs… To resolve what she called the “schizophrenic state of Mormon history, with its double interpretive strand of Joseph Smith as a man of God and Joseph Smith as a kind of fraud who exploited his followers for his own purposes..”

    In “The Prophet Puzzle” essay, religious historian Jan Shipps states that:

    “The mystery of Mormonism cannot be solved until we solve the mystery of Joseph Smith”.

    Shipps is one of a number of scholars, researchers, and even some members of the LDS and other various restoration churches who appear to be troubled by much of the historical evidence pertaining to Smith and the restoration movement yet they can’t bring themselves to completely write him off either.

    Many struggle to accept Smith as a prophet because of the unexplainable contradictions in his life

    As I have pointed out before, his teachings and personal life towards the later part of his ministry vs his teachings, his personal life and the scriptures he brought forth during the first six years of his ministry present a dichotomy that many have not been able to reconcile and virtually nobody has been able to adequately explain.

    His life and teachings during the first six years of his public ministry seem to be incongruent with the last eight years of his public ministry. The incongruency presents a challenge to those who see the light in the revelations he brought forth but cannot reconcile some of his personal actions later in his life. Coupled with the fact that the heavens appeared to be closing on the Seer, the inconsistencies become problematic.

    Despite these inconsistencies, or perhaps because of them, a few, serious religious scholars and historians seem be drawn to the continuous study of his life. It appears they cannot attribute his life and accomplishments to that of a true prophet yet they cannot dismiss him as a fraud or charlatan either.

    When a holistic view of his dichotomous life and its impact on the church and world is taken into consideration, and the realization that he became a stumbling block to the very work God had called him to do, it is hard to find an adequate logical explanation.

    There are numerous anti-Mormon groups and individuals dedicated to challenging the claims of the LDS restoration movement. As a result, the field of Mormon apologetics has also grown and become more prevalent and sophisticated as well. Both areas of scholarly research have become thriving past times if not quasi industries. In part of this paper, I am going to challenge the faulty premise upon which both groups build there case.

    The life and work of the Prophet Joseph Smith creates a polarization among those who study it. At one end of the spectrum his disciples accept him as God’s latter-day servant who cannot commit any grievous sins, at the other end of the spectrum his accusers reject him as a false prophet who never had anything but evil intentions.

    Joseph Smiths life seems to be filled with so many extreme contradictions that it seems strange that a world wide religion growing out of his religious experience could attract so many passionately loyal followers, weather the test of time and become one of the fasted growing and wealthiest in the world.

    One contributing reason for this phenomenon is the Book of Mormon, the foundational book of scripture upon which Mormonism rests. Many Mormons who cannot reconcile or find peace in the personal life of Smith resiliently defend the faith based largely on the merits of the Book of Mormon.

    Ironically, the Book of Mormon itself is one of the greatest critics of many of the actions taken by Smith and the Saints of the restoration movement, including his involvement in polyandry and masonry.

    Those converted to the faith through the Book of Mormon usually become staunch defenders of Smith and categorically reject the charges of his accusers or simply shelf the questions about the incongruence found in his personal life and some of the events of the restoration movement in hopes that it will all be worked out some time in the future or in the hereafter.

    Critics steeped in traditional Christianity who’s religious and ethical foundations cannot tolerate Smith’s involvement in masonry and polygamy and numerous other actions inconsistent with his own original teachings become zealous in refuting all of the fruits of the restoration movement including the Book of Mormon and the revelations received by Smith contained in the Book of Commandments and Doctrine and Covenants.

    In addition to these types of issues, his ability to attract such a wide range of extremely talented and prolific disciples is a wonderment in and of itself. The skeptic must add to these accomplishments his ability to get three men of above average intelligence and character and standing in their respective communities to conspire with him about seeing an angel with plates and hold to that story their entire lives even after two of the three eventually apostatized from the church and became critics of Smith.

    It is no wonder that many researchers continue to struggle to understand this man and the work he was involved with.

    Is there a biblical explanation for the life of Joseph Smith?

    One of the problems with the way that most critics and defenders of Joseph Smith view him and the restoration movement is that they do it through their own religious world-view and human logic which is seldom in sync with the word of God.

    The missing pieces of the prophet puzzle cannot be identified and Smith cannot be demystified unless he is weighed in the balance by the many ancient and modern scriptures that profile the Davidic Servant of the last days. Once the scriptural profile of the Davidic Servant is catalogued, a timeline of events that took place in Smiths life should be analyzed to see if the clothes fit the man.

    Understanding and acknowledging the mysterious Biblical relationship between God and his people, the role of the last Davidic Servant and the mysterious doctrines pertaining to reconciliation and atonement are essential to understanding and judging any man claiming to hold that office and position.

    Until we do, we are ill equipped to judge the man. We need to identify the prophetic model of the Davidic Servant that is given in the scriptures and use that to measure the life and accomplishments of anyone claiming to be that person.

    The scriptures provide many keys to God’s relationship with his people Israel that both Mormons and traditional Christians either reject or sweep under the carpet because they are either to painful, illogical or to incomprehensible for the finite mind of mortal man to feel comfortable with.

    Certainly there are numerous biblical doctrines that have been scrubbed from the sanitized versions of contemporary Christianity and are not often preached over the pulpit in our Sunday sermons. These obscure teachings of the Bible remind us of God’s declaration in Amos-

    “My ways are not your ways, neither are my thoughts your thoughts sayeth the Lord”.

    Before one can put the life of Joseph Smith up against a biblical profile of the Lords last messenger, to see if there is a place for him in the prophecies concerning the last days, one must first understand and accept the above-mentioned truths found in the scriptures.

    Throw out human logic, throw out the false traditions of your fathers, throw out the way you think things should be and accept the fact that Gods ways are not your ways.

    Something that most Mormons and Anti-Mormons have in common is the all or nothing mentality in judging Smith, the Book of Mormon and the divinity of the LDS Church. Both LDS defenders of the faith and critics usually want to have a package deal. They want it to be all true or all false. Ironically, both groups use the same all or nothing logic in reaching their opposing conclusions. The LDS Church prefers that investigators use this premise as they approach the conversion process because they want the entire decision to be based on the emotional and spiritual impact of the Book of Mormon, not on the somewhat disconcerting life of Joseph Smith or the incongruent events within the LDS restoration movement.

    They teach that if the Book of Mormon is true, one can categorically accept the divine calling of Joseph Smith, the truthfulness of the restored church and the current truthfulness of the position of the corporate LDS Church without further research or investigation.

    In conjunction with this analysis this paper questions the soundness of the “all or nothing” premise and presents another scenario that our culture has been conditioned to rule out, one that is strongly supported by ancient and modern scripture, one that has been a historically repetitious event.

    It is the premise that the Latter-day restoration movement was endorsed by God in the beginning and the Saints were originally given the fulness of the Gospel but that the rejection of God’s Law by the Saints led to an apostasy.

    It will be shown through scripture that latter-day Israel’s group rejection of God’s Law played an integral part in the actions of Joseph Smith because he was an intercessor, as such he either needed to lead his people out of sin or enter into with them.

    This paper will provide scriptural documentation that accepts the challenge thrown out by Jan Shipps. It will demystify Joseph Smith and provide the missing pieces of the prophet puzzle from God’s Holy Word.

    We are actually going to view the schizophrenic life of Smith and the events of the “restoration movement” through the literal interpretation of scripture. Through this process we shall indeed demystify him. We shall show that the lack of congruency in his life is completely congruent with God’s word and with the prophecies pertaining to him in the role of the prophesied messianic figure that was to come.

    This paper, will demonstrate through ancient scripture, modern scripture and LDS church history that God actually used Joseph Smith to do good and bring forth much light.  Then, as a result of the refusal of an apostate world to respond to God’s Law and the breaking of the everlasting covenant, God sent cursings along with the blessings just as was prophesied by Moses.

    God used his servant to deliver his people over to darkness then, as an intercessory offering God put the sins of Israel upon his servants and had the servants offer an atonement for Israel.  As we dissect this incredible prophetic enactment from Lev 16, we shall see that Hyrum was also offered as a sacrifice and Sidney was offered as a living scapegoat sacrifice. All three made an offering and all three took the sins of Israel upon them.

    The Lord warned the Saints that if they hardened their hearts he would deliver them up unto Satan;

    And thus, if the people of this generation harden not their hearts, I will work a reformation among them, and I will put down all lyings, and deceivings, and priestcrafts, and envyings, and strifes, and idolatries, and sorceries, and all manner of iniquities, and I will establish my church, like unto the church which was taught by my disciples in the days of old. And now if this generation do harden their hearts against my word, behold I will deliver them up unto Satan, for he reigneth and hath power at this time, for he hath got great hold upon the hearts of the people of this generation: and not far from the iniquities of Sodom and Gomorrah, do they come at this time: and behold the sword of justice hangeth over their heads, and if they persist in the hardness of their hearts, the time cometh that it must fall upon them. Behold I tell you these things even as I also told the people of the destruction of Jerusalem, and my word shall be verified at this time as it hath hitherto been verified..” (Book of Commandments Chapter 4)

    This paper will provide a biblical explanation for the general findings of Mormons and Anti-Mormons alike with regard to the general historical accuracy of the good and evil things Smith is accused of.

    Then it will provide scriptural documentation to challenge the final conclusions of both groups. Joseph Smith was not an evil charlatan as the anti-mormons would have us believe nor was he outwardly, without sin as many of the loyal later day apologists would have us believe.

    Indeed we shall show that as an intercessor, the sins of Israel were put upon him artificially, not because he was inwardly evil. He acted out the sins outwardly yet he retained the mercy of God, just as ancient prophecy foretells.

    Before we proceed-

    It is critical to understand that Sidney Rigdon and Joseph Smith both had their calling and election made sure… probably on or before the day the vision known today as section 76 took place.

    On that day they both stood before the Lord in a sanctified state and received of his fulness, being prepared to offer themselves as sin offerings without blemish.

    The Reinstitution of Blood Sacrifice in the Latter Days

    When Jesus Christ appeared to the Nephites he taught them that their animal sacrifices and burnt offering had been done away;

    And ye shall offer up unto me no more the shedding of blood; yea, your sacrifices and your burnt offerings shall be done away, for I will accept none of your sacrifices and your burnt offerings.”

    Some have supposed it a contradiction when Joseph Smith taught that sacrifice had not been done away with;

    “ is generally supposed that sacrifice was entirely done away when the Great Sacrifice … was offered up, and that there will be no necessity for the ordinance of sacrifice in [the] future: but those who assert this are certainly not acquainted with the duties, privileges and authority of the priesthood, or with the Prophets.. These sacrifices, as well as every ordinance belonging to the Priesthood, will, when the Temple of the Lord shall be built,… be fully restored and attended to in all their powers, ramifications, and blessings (History of the Church, vol. 4, p.211).

    I would suggest that perhaps the reinstitution of blood sacrifice in the last dispensation actually has to do with “human blood sacrifice” instead of “animal blood sacrifice“. Originally animal sacrifices were simply typological to the perfect singular sacrifice that Christ would make as well as the temporary sacrifice that the servants of God would make in the last days.
    One of the original teachings concerning this came in the form of the atonement statute in Lev 16. It is important to remember that statutes were enactments of future events.. or prophecies of future fulfillments.

    While most scholars assume that the two goats mentioned in the atonement statute somehow point to the atonement of Christ, I would submit that the association of Christ is only as a type but not the literal fulfillment.
    I postulate this because Christ’s atonement was a singular offering provided by him… alone….. whereas the atonement statute reveals that some kind of intercessory atonement would be provided by the concerted effort of TWO “goats” or individuals acting in concert…actually THREE or more… a Bullock and a Goat were to be offered as for a blood sacrifice while another Goat would be a living scapegoat. More on this later.
    Now, getting back to the topic at hand which is the reinstitution of “blood sacrifice” in the last dispensation… I am reminded of the following scripture in section 135 announcing the martyrdom of Joseph and Hyrum:
    to seal the testimony of this book and the Book of Mormon, we announce the martyrdom of Joseph Smith the Prophet, and Hyrum Smith… the day previous to the assassination, he [Joseph Smith] said “I am going like a lamb to the slaughter”…and their innocent with the innocent blood of all the martyrs under the altar that John saw, will cry unto the Lord of Hosts till he avenges that blood on the earth. Amen

    Did that not constitute a blood sacrifice that was reinstituted during the last dispensation? Certainly the above words of John Tayor dance around the theme that Joseph and Hyrum were offered as a blood sacrifice!

    First we need to acknowledge that those offered as an offering for sin were originally clean and pure when they first offered themselves. I personally believe that Sidney and Joseph had both become sanctified and probably received their calling and election early in their ministries during the 2nd watch. (Section 88 tells us they had their names enrolled in the Book of the Sanctified)

    It was necessary for them to have previously received their calling and election so that they could be clean before the Lord to be offered as a sacrifice and to perform the work that God has for them.

    Interestingly, I recently got a response on this blog by someone calling themselves NEPT who had come to the conclusion on his own after reading part 3 and pondering section 76 that Joseph and Sidney both must have had their calling and election made sure, entered into the rest of the Lord and been sealed up to eternal life.

    His observation included how he key word searched the topic to arrive at his conclusion. Here is his response:

    The other day I followed a scripture chain which might help to extract some kind of answer to the question you asked above, “Do we even comprehend what it means to behold the glory of the Son and receive of his fullness?”

    In Moroni 7 we have part of a sermon Mormon gave on faith, hope, and charity. Verse 3 states…

    “Wherefore, I would speak unto you that are of the church, that are the peaceable followers of Christ, and that have obtained a sufficient hope by which ye can enter into the rest of the Lord, from this time henceforth until ye shall rest with him in heaven.”

    One of the scriptures that comes up if you search for “rest” in D&C is verse 24 of section 84:

    “But they hardened their hearts and could not endure his presence; therefore, the Lord in his wrath, for his anger was kindled against them, swore that they should not enter into his rest while in the wilderness, which rest is the fulness of his glory.

    A simple search for “fulness” and “glory” brings up, lo and behold, section 76. Here it is used to describe those who are part of the first resurrection, and who are made priests and kings.

    Is it me, or does it seem that those who “receive of His fulness” have their calling and election made sure? I always thought of this as a very rare event, which made me wonder at Peter’s admonition to give diligence to this very thing (2 Peter 1:10). But in Alma 13, the prophet says,

    Now they, after being sanctified by the Holy Ghost, having their garments made white, being pure and spotless before God, could not look upon sin save it were with abhorrence; and there were many, exceedingly great many, who were made pure and entered into the rest of the Lord their God.

    Makes you wonder why this doesn’t seem to happen so frequently anymore.

    I suppose my point is, poor maligned brother Sydney, in the eternal, omniscient view of the Lord, seems to have entered into the rest of the Lord while yet on earth, long before most of us will probably attain it…

    We have been commanded to search the scriptures. I love to see people unlocking the deeper meanings in the scriptures by doing key word searches! What a great example of how to take a topic, identify key words in the primary scripture and use it to begin connecting more dots..

    So why is it important to understand that Joseph and Sidney were holy, sanctified men in 1832 when they had the vision and bore the last of all testimonies?

    Because their state of purity, before the Lord, through the grace of God, was necessary to qualify them to offer themselves as an intercessory offering without blemish in behalf of the Children of Israel, the tabernacle, holy place and alter.

    Let us now review a mystical doctrine that will lay the foundation for the rest of this tribute and explain the very strange things that happened following the Vision which is now known as section 76 of the Doctrine and Covenants. I refer to this doctrine as the scapegoat doctrine. It is also known as the atonement statute and it is contained in Leviticus 16.

    It is important to understand that the statutes God gave Israel are enactments of future events.

    Preparatory to our dissection of Lev 16, will begin profiling the Davidic Servant as contained in the Holy Word of God. The Scapegoat doctrine will be embedded within.

    As mentioned before, members of the LDS Church typically ruthlessly deny or justify Joseph Smith’s involvement with the Danites, masonry and polyandry. Even when the inner light within them tells them something isn’t right, they defend the honor and actions of the Lords anointed servant. Because to them, it needs to be a package deal. Everything about the restoration movement is true or false and Joseph was either without malignant sin or he could not be a true prophet.

    Conversely, critics of Joseph Smith, see evil intent in virtually everything he did. Despite the revelations he brought forth that are overflowing with light and intelligence, and the many good thing he accomplished, they focus on the evil things he did and they force themselves to ignore the good fruits he brought forth.

    I am now going to suggest that Gods word and the prophesies contained therein challenge both views of the issue. There is another scenario depicted of Joseph Smith in the Holy Word of God.

    I am now going to attempt to summarize the profile that the scriptures provide of the Davidic Servant and within this profile we will also analyze the literal fulfillment of the Atonement Statute that God commanded ancient Israel to keep and the associated Scapegoat Doctrine.

    The following profile of the Davidic Servant will show that if Joseph Smith did commit iniquity, it was prophesied that it would take place and it provides proof that he was exactly who he claimed he was.. the unblemished, perfect sacrifice offering who, after attempting to redeem an apostate people, offered to take their sins upon himself to prolong their days upon the earth.


    The Sin Offering & Servant of the Lord

    Who become a Stone of Stumbling to the Work he was Called to do.

    The following six evidences provide proof that the Davidic Servant of the 2nd watch was to commit iniquity as well as righteousness during his ministry in the 2nd watch.

    1- KNOWN FOR GOOD AND EVIL: Early in his ministry, the prophet Joseph Smith was visited by an angel from the presence of God. In the words of Joseph Smith, this is what the angel said:

    God had a work for me to do; and that my name should be had for good and evil among all nations, kindreds and tongues, or that it should be both good and evil spoken of among all nations

    I realize that defenders of the faith interpret that statement to mean that Joseph was to be without sin but that evil people would choose to misinterpret his actions as being evil.

    I am going to challenge that interpretation and suggest that what Moroni was really prophesying was that Joseph would do some of the greatest, most righteous things and manifest some of the greatest spiritual gifts of anyone that had ever lived, however, he would also, like Moses of old commit iniquity and sin before God as a result of the atonement and acceptable offering that he would make.

    We shall discover from the word of God that he has the transgressions of Israel artificially placed upon his head causing him to act out the sins of apostate Israel after they reject the gospel and break the everlasting covenant

    2- THE DAVIDIC PROPHECY: It is clear from many of Joseph’s statements and from the scriptures that he was to be the primary servant over the last dispensation and that he was the Davidic Servant of the 2nd watch spoken of in many of the Old Testament prophecies, while it appears that Brother Sidney was to become the Davidic King of the 3rd watch.

    As part of this calling Joseph needed to be a descendent of Jesse and David as well as an Ephramite, hence, the declaration in D&C 113:4 that reveals that he is of mixed lineage and claims the birth right of a descendent of King David.

    Hidden in the following verses in 2nd Samuel is perhaps the most incredibly revealing yet incredibly unnoticed secret in unlocking the mysterious profile of Joseph Smith, the Davidic Servant of the 2nd watch;

    Moreover I will appoint a place for my people Israel and will plant them.. I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity I will chasten him with the rod of men and with the stripes of the children of men: But my mercy shall not depart away from him as I took it from Saul, whom I put away before thee. And thine house and thy kingdom shall be established for ever before thee: thy throne shall be established forever.”

    Now lets see if Joseph can fit the profile of the latter day servant who is a descendent of David that we just read about

    a)He is involved in the work of gathering Israel to their appointed place.. which in the 3rd watch they will return to and be planted in.

    b)He restores the Kingdom of God to the earth (see Acts 1:6-7 D&C 29:5, 35:27, 38:9,15, 42:69, 62:9, 78:18,

    c)He becomes one of the Sons of God by becoming sanctified and getting his calling and election made sure.

    d)He successfully completes the House of God and it is accepted by God

    e) He commits iniquity

    f)God has him chastised and slain by the rod of men because of his transgressions

    g)The mercy of God remains with him despite the fact that outward appearance would dictate that Gods mercy should be withdrawn from him just as it was withdrawn from Saul who sinned

    I would suggest that Joseph Smith is the only prophet in the latter days that fits the bazaar profile contained in 2nd Samuel. The only other prophet that comes close to it is Moses who prolonged the days of the apostate children of Israel on the earth by providing an atonement for them, hence, Joseph the Seer is like Moses.

    This remarkable prophecy indicates that if all of the horrible things are true that anti-mormons accuse Joseph Smith of, their documentation of unsavory historical events simply provide an even greater testimony that he was the intercessory prophet of the end times!

    3- THE ATONEMENT OF MOSES: the above profile from 2nd Samuel is perhaps the most accurate and succinct summary of the life of Joseph Smith but we need to drill down further in the scriptures and get additional witnesses of this very strange thing.

    As we do so, we will get a better understanding as to why Joseph committed iniquity and better understand how it is possible for the Lords holy anointed servant  to outwardly commit iniquity and be chastised by the rod of man while staying within the mercy of a just God.

    One of the things revealed in the JST Inspired Version of the Bible and also the book of Mormon and also section 103 is that Joseph Smith was to be LIKE MOSES! Could there be a clue in this?

    Too often we have the tendency to focus on the obvious and miss other important details when reviewing a scriptural type.

    Yes, Joseph was like Moses in that he delivered the law to Israel and will play a major role in leading the Children of Israel out of bondage during the 3rd Watch, but there is another event in the Life of Moses that we need to acknowledge and understand in order to comprehend the ministry and sacrifice of Joseph the Seer.

    After the children of Israel refused to receive the higher law and committed Idolotry instead, God in his wrath decided to consume them from off of the face of the earth. As a sanctified servant who had spoken to God face to face, Moses pled with the Lord to spare them and he offered himself as an ATONEMENT for them.

    Ye have sinned a great sin and now I will go up  unto the Lord preadventure I shall make an atonement for your sin.” (Exod 32:30)

    Please note, he was not offering an animal sacrifice, this is the first recorded instance of a human atonement offering that actually took place in the Bible. He was acting as an intercessor between them and God.

    This was not the infinite and eternal atonement for the eternal salvation that Christ would eventually offer, nor was it the sacrificing of Moses blood for the remitting of sins. It was a different type of  temporary atonement to provide a temporary temporal means of escape from the wrath of God. It prolonged their life upon the land and enabled their posterity to come forth in later generations.

    God rejected Moses suggestion of having his own name blotted out of the book of life but did in fact accept him as an offering.

    The consequences of Moses’ atonement is that the sins of Israel were artificially put on Moses head and he eventually acted out their sin of idolatry when he took credit for bringing the water out of the rock at Meribah. The consequences of acting out that sin were that he was not allowed to go into the promised land but rather he had to die because of his disobedience.

    The consequences of his sin cost him his life and prevented him from entering into the promised land, yet, the scriptures and the Lord continued to refer to Moses as a justified servant of God and in fact, Moses has appeared as a ministering angel several time since his death. Moses remained in the grace and mercy of God because he only sinned outwardly, not inwardly.

    We have now established a strong pattern from the prophecy of Moroni the amazing prophecy in 2nd Samuel and the type of Moses Atonement in behalf of the Children of Israel.

    Hopefully an adequate foundation has been laid for you to appreciate the incredible prophecy contained in the atonement statute.

    4- THE ATONEMENT STATUTE: How did Moses understand the principle of atonement that allowed him to intercede for the children of Israel and temporarily take upon himself their sins in an effort to prolong their days upon the earth.. and all this  without causing the mercy of God to depart from him?

    The answer is the atonement statute. Read Leviticus 16 very carefully. Once you comprehend who the latter day players are, the contradictory events of the restoration movement will make perfect sense to you. It explains in vivid detail what the mission and offering of Joseph Smith, Hyrum Smith and Sidney Ridgon was.

    Statutes are enactments of future events. The atonement statute given to Moses and Aaron explained a very important principle but also provides the details of a future event.

    The atonement statute involves, among other things, two goats without blemish. One was to be killed as a blood sacrifice for a sin offering. Virtually all Christian theologians agree that this goat represents Christ.

    Typologically that is true, however it is literally referring to an intercessory prophet in the latter days. A separate Bullock was also to be killed as a blood sacrifice as well.

    The second of the two goats that were jointly doing a sin offering and jointly doing an atonement, was to be the scapegoat. The scapegoat was to have the sins of Israel placed upon his head.. then he was to be led out into the wilderness by a fit man. All of this for the purpose of providing a means of escape for the children of Israel.

    Theologians have been arguing for years over who this scapegoat represents. Some for lack of a better explanation say it must also represent the Savior, others speculate that it must be an evil servant of Satan or Satan himself. Perhaps the Anti Christ, etc.

    Ancient and modern scripture reveals that both speculations are wrong.

    I could go on and explain why both of these explanations are equally inept but I will leave it up to you to put the atonement statute into the proper context.

    Yes, Moses, Aaron and Joshua were typological fulfillments of the atonement statute, but as we have discussed before, there is virtually always a dual fulfillment to all prophecies. There was to be a prophet in the last days that would be like unto Moses! There would also be a latter day prophet that would be like Aaron and one that would be like Joshua.

    Two prophets would die as sin offerings, while one would remain with the sins upon its head but would eventually be given great power like unto Joshua in the 3rd watch.

    And he shall take the two goats, [Joseph and Sidney], and present them before the Lord at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.

    And Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats; one lot for the [goat that is to be offered unto the] Lord, and the other lot for the scapegoat.

    And Aaron shall bring the goat upon which the Lord’s lot fell, and offer him [unto the Lord] for a sin offering. But the goat, on which the lot fell to be the scapegoat, shall be presented alive before the Lord, to make an atonement with him [the first goat]  and to let him go for a scapegoat into the wilderness.

    And Aaron shall bring the bullock of the sin offering, [Hyrum] which is for himself, and shall make an atonement for himself, and for his house, and shall kill the bullock of the sin offering which is for himself

    Without going into much detail, according to the atonement statute, there were to be at least three prophets in the last days who would all offer an offering unto the Lord according to the Atonement Statute.

    The first two goats would be of equal status in that either could have been the blood sin offering or the  living scapegoat offering. The Seer and the Spokesman were equal before the Lord. Hence, the casting of lots.

    The fact that these two goats make a joint atonement tells us that neither one is the literal representation of Christ’s atonement because his was a singular atonement, yet the atonement statute speaks of an atonement made jointly by two individuals.

    It is important to remember that Moses provided an atonement offering that resulted in him taking the transgressions of Israel upon himself and resulting in his death. The purpose of his offering was to provide a means of temporal escape for an apostate people who were about to be swept off the face of the earth by the wrath of God. He preserved them.

    I am suggesting that Joseph Smith did the exact same thing that Moses did. Apparently he acknowledged he was do this as well.

    I am ready to be offered a sacrifice for this people… Greater love hath no man than that he should lay down his life for his friends. You have stood by me in the hour of trouble, and I am willing to sacrifice my life for your preservation.” [George Q. Cannon, Life of Joseph Smith the Prophet (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1907), p. 498]

    The Seer who was chosen by lot to be the blood sacrifice goat is offered for 1) the people 2) for the tabernacle 3) for the holy place 4) the alter.

    The blood sacrifice Bullock (Hyrum who was in the office of Patriarch and Priesthood) is offered for Aaron and his house.

    … shall lay both his hands upon the head of [My Spokesman ] the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of [the Spokesman or the scape] goat..”

    It is not the purpose of this paper to document, itemize and find fault with all of the things Sidney Rigdon may have done and said after his excommunication, after being led away from the congregation of Israel into the wilderness, as the scapegoat.

    Suffice it to say, just as Joseph Smith may have fulfilled prophecy by committing iniquity because the sins of Israel fell upon him as an intercessory sin offering, the same holds true for the Spokesman.

    ..and shall send him away by the hand of a fit man, into the wilderness and the goat, shall bear upon him all their iniquities unto a land not inhabited and he shall let go the goat in the wilderness…

    According to the shadow enactment of a future event provided in the Atonement Statute a “fit man” would lead the scapegoat away from the congregation of Israel. One of the definitions one can derive from the Hebrew of fit man is “timely opportunist”.

    According to the historical research done by Van Wagoner, the events that led to the derailment of the Lords Spokesman from leading the flock can only identify one man who acted as a timely opportunist in expelling the Lords Scapegoat away from the congregation with the sins of Israel upon his head.

    By 10:00 a.m. more than 5,000 Saints had gathered at the grove east of the temple in response to William Marks’s announcement. As Rigdon began speaking, a strong headwind muted his voice, so he relocated to the leeward side and climbed on top of a wagon box.

    From that spot he addressed the Saints until 11:30 a.m. While some have painted Rigdon’s discourse as uninspired, others, including Orson Hyde, a longtime Rigdon critic, said he presented “his claims with all the eloquence and power that he was master of.”

    Rigdon labored to gain a show of support from the throng of LDS faithful. Hyde reported that Rigdon was just “about to ask an expression of the people by vote; when lo! to his grief and mortification, [Brigham Young] stepped upon the stand … and with a word stayed all the proceedings of Mr. Rigdon.

    Young, recalling the event in 1860, stated: “when I went to meet Sidney Rigdon on the meeting ground I went alone, and was ready alone to face and drive the dogs from the flock.

    Jacob Hamblin’s recollection of the morning of 8 August indicates that Young’s booming voice and stunning display of brinkmanship caused the audience to turn in their seats and face his commanding presence on the stand.

    “I will manage this voting for Elder Rigdon,” he bellowed. “He does not preside here. This child [meaning himself] will manage this flock for a season.”

    Lonely and bereaved, more than a third of the Mormon faithful were middle and working-class British immigrants, converted by Young and his fellow apostles. These new arrivals, conditioned from their earliest years, were used to working under the direct guidance of a master’s hand in their homeland.

    Young saw their dependency, their inability to provide for their own emotional and economic sustenance. Accustomed to following directions from Joseph Smith, and scarcely familiar with Rigdon who had been ill for years, being instructed what to do by Brigham Young was a relief.

    Fully confident, tossing off platitudes and pronouncements, Young’s afternoon address on 8 August was a remarkable assertion of the Twelve’s right to govern as well as his personal claim to be shepherd of the Mormon flock. “For the first time since [I] became a member of the church,” Young began, “the Twelve Apostles of the Lamb, chosen by revelation, in this last dispensation of the gospel for the winding up scene, present themselves before the saints, to stand in their lot according to appointment.”

    Young, ever the strategist, then asked, “I now want to ask each of you to tell me if you want to choose a guardian, a Prophet, evangelist or sumthing els[e] as your head to lead you. All that are in favor of it make it manifest by raising the right hand.” No one did.

    Assuming the authoritarian Mormon father role he filled so well, Young then responded, “I know your feelings–do you want me to tell your feelings?” Responding to murmurs and assenting nods of the compliant flock he continued: [H]ere [is] the 12 an independ[en]t body–who have the Keys of the K[ingdom] to all the whole world so help me God[, and] the[y] are, as the 1st pres[idenc]y of the church. … [Y]ou can[‘]t call a Prophet you can[‘]t take El[der] Rig[don] or Amas[a] Lyman they must be ord[aine]d by the 12. … God will have nothing to do with you–you can[‘] put any one at the head of the 12.

    “Perhaps some think that our beloved brother Rigdon would not be honored, would not be looked to as a friend, but if he does right, and remains faithful, he will not act against our counsel, nor we against his, but act together, and we shall be as one.”

    “Do you want a spokesman?” Young then asked. “Do you want the church properly organized, or do you want a spokesman to be chief cook and bottle washer?” Discussing Rigdon’s calling as spokesman to the prophet, Young agreed, “Very well, he was,” but he added, “If he wants now to be a spokesman to the Prophet he must go to the other side of the vail for the Prophet is there, but Elder Rigdon is here. Why will Elder Rigdon be a fool? Who knows anything of the [fulness of the] priesthood, or of the organization of the kingdom of God? [the Council of Fifty]. I am plain.”

    At the trial, it was none other than Brigham Young, acting in the seat of judgment as the one who presides over the Church that turned Sidney Rigdon over to the buffetings of Satan-

    “Elder W. W. Phelps moved that Elder Sidney Rigdon be cut off from the church, and delivered over to the buttetings of Satan until he repent.

    Bishop Newel K. Whitney then presented the motion to the high council (who was trying the case) and the vote was unanimous in the affirmative. * * *

    President Young arose and delivered Sidney Rigdon over to the buffetings of Satan in the name of the Lord, and all the people said, Amen.”

    [Editorial Note: A viewer that goes by NEPT provided the following comment and associated research;

    NEPT said 6 days ago:

    I thought I could add, or at least support, a notion you proposed, Watching, regarding the ‘fit’ man who sends the scapegoat off to Azazel in the wilderness…

    In his attempt to render a more accurate translation from the Hebrew of the five books of Moses, Robert Alter writes,

    “And Aaron shall lay his two hands on the head of the live goat and confess over it all the transgressions of the Israelites and all their sins, according to all their offenses, and he shall put them on the head of the goat and send it off in the hand of a man for the hour to the wilderness. And the goat shall bear upon it all their transgressions to a remote region, and he shall send off the goat to the wilderness.”

    He includes a footnote that reads that reads, “The literal sense [for ‘a man for the hour’] is a ‘timely man,’ and it probably indicates a man chosen to serve for this time and task.”

    What really caught my attention was an excerpt from a talk entitled, “Brigham Young: “The Man for the Hour Will Be Ready Whenever the Hour Strikes”, given by one Larry C. Porter, a BYU professor of church history and doctrine. He says:

    “Following the death of President Joseph F. Smith in 1918 and the transition of administration to President Heber J. Grant, apostle Orson F. Whitney reflected on the lives of the seven prophets who had thus far graced the dispensation of the fullness of times. He wisely observed:

    Each succeeding President of the Church ought to vary in some respects from all other incumbents of that high and holy position. For this reason: The work of the Lord is always progressing, and consequently always changing–not its principles, nor its aims; but its plans, its instruments, and its methods of procedure. These are constantly changing, in order to meet new conditions and profit by them. Hence a variety of leaders is essential. To-day is not Yesterday, nor will To-morrow be To-day. The Lord provides the men and the means whereby He can best work, at any given time, for the carrying out of his wise and sublime purposes. The Man for the Hour will be ready whenever the Hour strikes [Orson F. Whitney, “The Man for the Hour,” Millennial Star 83, no. 49 (December 8, 1921): 778].

    I think there is probably more to this than meets the eye, and by posting this I likely bring up more questions than provide any answers. But I must say, sometimes, literal fulfillment of prophecy can scare the devil out of you.”

    According to the prophecy contained in the Atonement Statute, both the blood offering goat, Joseph the Seer and the blood offering Bullock, Hyrum who  was equal with Joseph and Sidney in the First Presidency and held the office of Priesthood and Patriarch have the transgressions of Israel placed upon them and to be killed BEFORE the sins of Israel are pronounced upon the head of the Sidney Rigdon, the scapegoat.

    This is very significant. As we take a look at the events of LDS Church history, we will notice that the effects of the transgressions upon Joseph and Hyrum take place first. The effects of the transgressions of Israel upon the head of Sidney Rigdon do not actuate until AFTER the martyrdom.. when the “fit man” places the sins of Israel upon the head of the Scapegoat servant by turning him over to the buffetings of Satan. (definition of “fit”: timely, opportune..)

    This explains why the Spokesman and the Seer became estranged shortly after the defilement of the Kirtland Temple, and the failure of the Saints to live consecration and to redeem Zion at the appointed time.

    Hence, after being rejected by latter day Israel, having their transgressions placed upon him and being led away from the congregation in disgrace with the sins of Israel upon his head, poor brother Sidney, try as he might to rise to the calling he knew was his, was forced to wait out his time in the 2nd watch, to wander in the wilderness and became a hiss and a byword exhibiting erratic behavior and characterized by future generations as a delusional portrait of religious excess.

    5- THE SUFFERING SERVANT : One of the amazing keys that Christ gave to the Nephites and us about how to understand the words of Isaiah is in the fact that every prophecy in Isaiah has a dual fulfillment;

    all things that he spake have been and shall be”.

    They each had a fulfillment prior to his visit to the Nephites and they all have a fulfillment AFTER his visit to the Nephites.

    This should cause us to look at Isaiah 53 in excitement and awe! How is it possible for someone other than Christ in the latter days to meet the following profile:

    “He is despised and rejected of men”

    “He was wounded for our transgressions he was bruised for our iniquities”

    “With his stripes we are healed”

    “The Lord has laid upon him the iniquity of us all”

    “for the transgressions of my people was he stricken”

    He is brought as a Lamb to the slaughter” Is that not what Joseph Smith quoted when they took him to Carthage?

    You will note that the Hebrew chapter actually begins in verse 13 of Isaiah 52. This reveals that the suffering servant in chapter 53 is the same servant with marred visage in Isaiah 52!

    So the Davidic Servant described in section 52 that looses the bands of Scattered apostate Israel in the latter days is also the one that had previously been slain as an atonement for their sins in an effort to prevent the Lord from destroying them from off the face of the earth.

    That is right, the latter day saints that rejected the higher law back in Kirtland and Jackson County deserved to be wiped off the face of the earth just as their forefathers deserved to be wiped off the face of the earth for their iniquity.

    Joseph Smith and Sidney prolonged the life of the Latter- day Saints on the face of the earth by providing an atonement for them. All of this is of course made possible through the infinite and eternal atonement of Jesus Christ, the God of Israel and creator of the heavens and earth and all things that in them are.

    It is interesting to note that the two atonement goats take on a secondary type in the relationship of Joseph the Seer and Sidney the Spokesman.

    I don’t pretend to understand all of the ramifications and complexities of the intercessory act that took place pertaining to the fulfillment of the atonement statute that was fulfilled by Joseph, Hyrum, Sidney and possibly others. However, it does seem plain that;

    1) as part of the intercession, those two atonement goats had to have the sins of apostate latter day Israel placed upon them and act them out.

    2) Two of them had to provide a blood sacrifice for sin

    3) One of them, the scapegoat had to provide a living sacrifice with the sins of Israel upon his head.

    4) We learn from the account of Moses that the atonement provided a means of temporal escape for the children of Israel. It prevented God in his wrath from wiping them off of the face of the earth.

    Again, as previously shown, the atonement statute clearly states that two people would jointly provide the atonement for Isreal, making a distinction between the singular eternal offering that Christ made vs the temporal and temporary offering that the two messiahs represented as goats were to make.

    With this in mind, I would like to suggest the following interpretation of the following verses. I believe the following verses are referencing the results of the two separate offerings;

    1) the eternal atonement of Christ that has the power to blot out sins and

    2) The temporary atonement that stayed Gods judgment and enables a time of refreshing and the restitution of all things at the appointed time which is associated with the latter day prophet like Moses.

    Yes, I realize that Christ was a type of Moses in the meridian watch but clearly there is to be another prophet like Moses in the 3rd watch.

    And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers. But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.

    Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
    Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
    For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.

    Lastly, it appears to me that there is a type of merging together between the atonement provided by Moses, Aaron and Joshua vs the one by Joseph, Hyrum and Sidney. from the beginning of the atonement that Moses made, to the fulfillment of the atonement Joseph made there appears to be a period of Seventy Jubilees. At which the transgressions come to an end;

    Seventy [Jubilees] are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins,[of Israel] and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy

    6- The Davidic Lamentation in Isaiah 49- The following lamentation proves that the Lords Servant fails in his first ministry and laments his failure to to gather Israel and establish Zion.

    He feels he has “laboured in vain” and yet the lamantation goes on to acknowledge that the Lord miraculously restores him and enables him to complete his mission and ot raise up the tribes of Israel and restore them. He becomes a light to the gentiles and brings salvation to the world;

    “Listen O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The Lord hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword ; in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me, and made me a polished shaft; in his quiver hath he hid me; And said unto me, Thou art my servant , O Israel, in whom I will be glorified . Then I said, I have laboured in vain, I have spent my strength for nought, and in vain: yet surely my judgment is with the Lord, and my work with my God. And now, saith the Lord that formed me from the womb to be his servant, to bring Jacob again to him, Though Israel be not gathered, yet shall I be glorious in the eyes of the Lord, and my God shall be my strength. And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for al ight  to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation  unto the end of the earth. Thus saith the Lord, the Redeemer of Israel, and his Holy One, to him whom man despiseth, to him whom the nation abhorreth, to a servant of rulers, Kings shall see and arise, princes also shall worship, because of the Lord that is faithful, and the Holy One of Israel, and he shall choose thee. Thus saith the Lord, In an acceptable atime have I heard thee, and in a day of salvation have I helped thee: and I will preserve thee, and give thee for a bcovenant of the people, to establish the earth, to cause to cinherit the desolate heritages; That thou mayest say to the aprisoners, Go forth; to them that are in darkness, Shew yourselves. They shall feed in the ways, and their pastures shall be in all high places. They shall not hunger nor athirst; neither shall the heat nor bsun smite them: for he that hath mercy on them shall lead them, even by the springs of water shall he guide them. And I will make all my mountains a way, and my ahighways shall be exalted. Behold, these shall come from far: and, lo, these from the anorth and from the west; and these from the land of Sini.  aSing, O heavens; and be joyful, O earth; and break forth into bsinging, O mountains: for the Lord hath ccomforted his people, and will have dmercy upon his eafflicted.

    The above six evidences should be sufficient to show that the amazing profile of the Lords Davidic Servant of the 2nd would be righteous and then, after the rejection of the fulness of the Gospel by the Gentiles, he would take upon himself their sins and he would act out there iniquities. Furthermore, the Spokesman that he works in concern with would also take upon himself the sins of apostate Israel and become a living sacrifice.

    There are many other scriptures that provide additional evidence of the Davidic Profile and also the scapegoat servant. They are to numerous to mention here. As you become familiar with this concept you will begin to see this unfold in other places in the scriptures. Here are a few you might want to reference;

    Woe is me… a man of strife.. and a man of contention.. why is my pain perpetual.. I will deliver thee out of the hand of the wicked..” (Jer 15)

    I have become vile..” (Lam 1)

    I will bear the indignation of the Lord because I have sinned against him..” (Micah 7)

    Behold my Servant whom I uphold; mine elect.. I have put my Spirit upon him; he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.. he shall bring forth judgment unto truth. He shall not fail nor be discourages, TILL he have set judgment in the earth and the isles shall wait for his law..” (Isa 42)

    Take away the filthy garments from him…I have caused they iniquity to pass from thee.. I will clothe thee with a change of raiment .. If thou wilt walk in my ways, and if thou wilt keep my charge, then thou shalt judge my house..” (Zech 3)

    With this understanding, all of the difficult parts of the history of the Church now make sense!

    For much more detailed documentation about the amazing profile of Joseph Smith from the Old Testament prophets, click here

    I would submit to you that if the allegations are true about Joseph Smith by his accusers and he did commit iniquity after having the Savior appear to him, grant him the promise of eternal life and accept the Kirtland Temple, that fact alone would become one of the most compelling evidences that he was who he claimed to be.. the David Servant spoken of by the prophets who was to do great things and then commit iniquity!

    The Healing and Un-silencing of Gods Spokesman in the 3rd Watch

    The Lord’s Latter day Vineyard Became Corrupt

    “He looked that it should bring forth grapes and it brought fourth wild grapes… because they have no knowledge….  because they have cast away the Law of the Lord, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel” (Isaiah 5)

    Now, with the foundational knowledge that Joseph and Hyrum were to offered as blood Sacrifices for the Sins of Israel and that Sidney was to become the living scapegoat sacrifice for the sins of Israel, all of them taking the sins of the people upon themselves as part of their intercessory offering we can now review some of the otherwise painful events of the History of the Church with much greater compassion and understanding.

    As we do this, remember that the Atonement Statute clarifies that the sins of Israel fall upon the blood sacrifice goat BEFORE they fall upon the living scapegoat sacrifice.

    Consistent with this you will notice in section 124 given in 1841 the revelation begins by acknowledging that Joseph had already begun his offering process, yet later in the section the Lord acknowledges that Sidney offering is yet future. This is a great key and 2nd witness to the fact that the sins of Israel had already begun falling upon the head of Joseph shortly after the Kirtland Temple Defilement while the sins of Israel would not be placed upon Sidney until after the martyrdom, the completion of the Blood Sacrifice of Joseph and Hyrum.

    This is a great key in understand the enmity that began taking place between the Seer and the Spokesman during the end of the Kirtland Era.

    Perhaps one reason why people are largely ignorant about the role Sidney plays is partly because many Latter day Saints don’t search the scriptures as we have been commanded to do.

    As you not doubt noticed as we created the profile of Rigdon, much of the important information presented about Rigdon in this paper thus far has been hidden in plain sight in the Doctrine and Covenants and other standard works.

    Perhaps another reason Latter day Saints are largely ignorant of who Rigdon really is has to do with the fact that the official history of the church has been altered..

    Van Wagoner claims “The Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, promoting it’s own agenda after Joseph Smith’s 1844 death, rewrote Mormon History so radically that Rigdon never again mattered”  There is significant evidence to support the above presupposition by Van Wagoner.

    Charles Wesley Wandell, an assistant church historian, was rather disturbed at these emendations. Commenting on the many alterations made in the historical work as it was being sanitized in the Deseret News, Wandell noted in his diary:

    I notice the interpolations because having been employed in the Historian’s office at Nauvoo by Doctor Richards, and employed, too, in 1845, in compiling this very autobiography, I know that after Joseph’s death his memoir was ‘doctored’ to suit the new order of things, and this, too, by the direct order of Brigham Young to Doctor Richards and systematically by Richards.”

    It is amazing that while the spin zone reduced Rigdon to an insignificant flakey and un-valiant opportunist, the shortcomings of the Twelve were minimized and in some cases deleted or omitted altogether from the history of the Church.

    For example, during the failure of the Kirtland Safety Society, Parley P. Pratt, one of the Twelve Apostles who would become, along with Brigham Young, one of the chief accusers of Rigdon, wrote a scathing letter to Joseph Smith accusing him and Rigdon of leading the people astray and being a false prophet:

    Having long pondered the path in which we as a people have been led in regard to our temporal management, I have at length become fully convinced that the whole scheme of speculation in which we have been engaged is of the devil.

    I allude to the covetous, extortionary speculating spirit which has reigned in this place for the last season; which has given rise to lying, deceiving and taking advantage of one’s neighbor, and in short every evil work.

    And being as fully convinced that you and president Rigdon, both by precept and example, have been the principal means in leading this people astray, in these particulars, and having myself been led astray and caught in the same snare by your example, and by false prophesying and preaching , from your own mouths, yea having done many things wrong and plunged myself and family and others well nigh into destruction…”

    The rest of the letter goes down hill from there, becoming increasingly more belligerent.

    I am not suggesting that Pratt was not without some justification in his frustration and wrath, Smith and Rigdon were far from perfect and many of the things they did were misunderstood.. even before the sins of Israel began falling upon the Seer he made human mistakes…..

    I’m just pointing out that numerous things like this where members of the quorum of the twelve challenged and disobeyed the Prophet were left out of the official history while any negative items about Rigdon almost seem to be highlighted.

    Parley’s brother Orson, also an Apostle brought charges against the prophets leadership before a Bishops Court condemning him for “lying and misrepresentations for extortion and for speaking disrespectfully against his brethren behind their backs..”

    Orson Hyde, one of the apostles who appears to have had perhaps the strongest vendetta against Rigdon and made the most disparaging remarks about him at his trial.

    As we review these events in history we need to remember that all of this works into God plan. The New Testament reminds us that blindness is come upon Israel until the fulness of times.

    Hyde gave anti-Mormon lectures condemning the restoration movement after he initially read the Book of Mormon. After hearing that Sidney Rigdon, his old minister and others he had known had joined the restored church, he finally reconsidered, acknowledged the error of his ways and  joined himself.

    Hyde went on to stumble several times just as many of his brethren did. He seemed to struggle with doctrinal issues.

    Upon returning from his mission in Britain, during a period of persecution and internal dissension, Hyde wrote that he felt God was no longer with the church.

    As we have demonstrated from the prophetic enactment and associated timeline contained in the atonement statute, Hyde was probably spot on with that declaration.

    Because of some of the troubling things he saw taking place in the Church, he left the church in October 19, 1838 with Thomas B. Marsh, the presiding member of the Twelve.

    Hyde and Marsh explained their reasons for their dissent in an affidavit which he and Hyde signed on October 24, 1838 in Richmond, Missouri. These included their contention that the Mormons had organized into a company known as the Danites, “who have taken an oath to support the heads of the church in all things that they say or do, whether right or wrong” and that Mormon and Danite vigilantes had burned and looted non-Mormon settlements in Daviess County.

    The testimony of Marsh and Hyde added to the panic in northwestern Missouri and contributed to subsequent events in the 1838 Mormon War.

    Because he had signed the Richmond affidavit with Marsh, Hyde was disfellowshipped (disciplined, but not removed from membership) in 1838. On May 4, 1839, a church conference in Quincy, Illinois voted to remove Hyde and William Smith from the work of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles.

    The leadership of the church invited the two to explain their actions. On June 27, Hyde returned to the church and publicly explained himself, asking to be restored.

    Sidney Rigdon questioned the sincerity of Hyde and did not feel he should be admitted back into full fellowship. Despite the concerns of Rigdon, the fall conference, October 6 to 8, 1839, voted to restore both Hyde and William Smith as apostles.

    Some historians feel that from that time forward Hyde waited for the opportunity to settle the score with Rigdon.

    After being reinstated into full fellowship into the Church, Hyde was sent on another foreign mission, his notorious mission to Jerusalem in the Old World.

    “According to the minutes of the meeting on April 6, 1840, at which Hyde was dispatched he was;

    to visit the cities of London, Amsterdam, Constantinople, and Jerusalem; and also other places that he may deem expedient; and converse with the priests, rulers, and elders of the Jews, and obtain from them all the information possible, and communicate the same to some principal paper for publication, that it may have a general circulation throughout the United States.

    Despite the fact that Hyde was specifically commissioned to obtain information in behalf of the Church, but never commissioned to dedicate the land for the return of the Jews, he became a little confused about the role of the Old World Jerusalem in end times prophecy.

    He took it upon himself to dedicate the land of Jerusalem and begin the gathering of the Jews at that time. We need to remember that the various revelations were not as accessable or as easy to search back then as they are now.

    The scriptures and the Prophet Joseph Smith had taught that the outcasts of Israel and the dispersed of Judah were to gather to the promised land of America.  A careful reading of section 133 reveals that “Zion” and “Jerusalem” would both be located in America in the last days.

    Although his prayer did go unanswered, it is true that the illuminati did begin gathering the Ashkenazi Jews en mass to the Old World over 100 years after the dedicatory prayer. Nevertheless, that gathering if not the gathering spoken of in the scriptures that takes place under the direction of the Lords servants.

    Hydes dedicatory prayer is filled with doctrinal disinformation. He clearly did not understand where the gathering of the Jews was to take place or where the kings of the earth were to bring their gold and silver….

    It was not until he returned from the Old World Jerusalem to Nauvoo and read about the proclamation to the kings of the earth in section 124 that he realized that the Kings of the Earth were to bring their riches to the cornerstone of Zion in America, not Jerusalem in the Old World.

    Several years after returning from the Jerusalem, On 1 April 1843, Joseph Smith, Orson Hyde, and William Clayton traveled to Ramus. After spending the night at the home of Benjamin F. Johnson, they held a meeting the next morning at ten o’clock. During his remarks Elder Orson Hyde taught some false doctrine about the second coming that the Prophet needed to correct.

    It is in part, from these corrections that we now have the information contained in section 130 of the D&C.

    The Irony of this is not only that Sidney Rigdon had baptized Hyde into the Church, but that the descendent of King David that would rule over Israel in the end times, that Hyde mentioned in his dedicatory prayer was indeed Sidney Rigdon, the one Orson Hyde would eventually put so much energy into casting out from among the Saints!

    …Let them know that it is thy good pleasure to restore the kingdom unto Israel- raise up Jerusalem as it capital and constitute her people a distinct nation and government, with David thy servants, even a descendant from the loins of ancient David to be their king”

    An interesting historical fact that has gone unnoticed is the fact that the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as a quorum and as individuals fluctuated in and out of varying states of apostasy from time to time prior to the martyrdom.

    At one point, Joseph Smith referred to them as a renegade quorum. Section 112 given in 1837 is actually a revelation that took place in part, because the President of the Quorum of the Twelve, Thomas B. Marsh, was concerned about the status of his apostate brethren of the Twelve… little did he realize that he, himself, would be excommunicated about two years later in 1839.

    In the revelation the Lord lets Thomas know that:

    there have been some few things in thine heart and with thee with which I the Lord was not well pleased…

    The Lord then goes on in the revelation to acknowledge that the other members of the quorum were functioning in a sinful state and that he needed to pray for them that after much tribulation they would be converted.

    I would submit that their ultimate conversion takes place just prior to or perhaps just after the opening of the 3rd watch when they are returned to the earth.

    Pray for thy brethren of the twelve, Admonish them sharply for my names’s sake, and let them be admonished for all their sins, and be ye faithful before me unto my name. And after their temptations, and much tribulation, behold I, the Lord, will feel after them, and if they harden not their hearts, and stiffen not their necks against me, they shall be converted, and I will heal them.”

    This admonition from the Lord to President Marsh indicating that the quorum of the twelve had would  become converted at a future time is remarkably similar to what Jesus said to Peter about himself and his brethren of the quorum:

    And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:

    But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted strengthen thy brethren.”

    The Lord continues with a warning to Marsh and his brethren

    Rebel not against my servant Joseph Smith..

    Clearly the Lord is prophesying a future rebellion of the quorum of the Twelve coming up within a few years of this revelation.

    The following verses undoubtedly are referring to the 3rd watch wherein President Marsh and his brethren would be restored to the earth after their apostasy in the 2nd watch to fulfill their callings. It is critical to understand the intercession made by Gods two anointed ones that enables the other servants of the Lord to be restored to their callings in the 3rd watch.

    Notice the unconditional promise to Marsh that he will be the one in the 3rd watch to hold the keys of the kingdom pertaining to the twelve to unlock the door of the kingdom in the mission field while the 1st Presidency will preside in Zion;

    Verily I say unto you, my servant Thomas, thou art the man whom I have chosen to hold the keys of my kingdom, as pertaining to the Twelve, abroad among all nations- That thou mayest be my servant to unlock the door of the kingdom in all places where my servant Joseph, and my servant Sidney, and my servant Hyrum, cannot come..

    It is Thomas Marsh that will lead the twelve in taking the gospel to the nations of the earth in the 3rd watch.

    There are numerous similar promises concerning many of the early leaders of the Church prophesying that they will return in the 3rd watch to fulfill the missions they had been given.

    Getting back to the topic of how the official history of the Church has been scrubbed to put the members of the quorum of the twelve in a favorable light, it is interesting to note that when the secret diary of William Clayton was accidentally unleashed to the public years ago after having been suppressed by people in high places, it contained an astonishing revelation that Joseph Smith had declared that Brigham Young had broken the covenant!

    Also B.Y. [Brigham Young] had transgressed his covenant & he pled with the Lord to spare him this end & he did so, other wise he would have died. B. denied having transgressed…” (pages 19-20)

    Naturally, those kinds of things didn’t find their way into the sanitized history of the church.

    Why is it that the many events like these and many others are curiously missing in the official history of the Church

    How is it we are left thinking that various members of the quorum of the 12 Apostles didn’t really encounter significant problems with personal valiancy and with the filling of their stewardships when they clearly did?

    In addition to deleting much of the historical significance of Rigdon and altering some of the events to place Rigdon’s character in a poor light and embellishing their own roles in the restoration movement, members of the quorum of the twelve actually changed doctrinal statements pertaining to priesthood leadership.

    For example, in the original history of the Church Joseph Smith stated that “the 12 were not “subject to any other than the First Presidency, viz, myself, S Rigdon, and F G. Williams.”

    When the 12 got done revising the history of the Church, it read: “The Twelve are not subject to any other than the first Presidency, viz. myself… Sidney Rigdon, and Frederick G. Williams, who are now my Counselors; and where I am not, there is not First Presidency over the Twelve.”

    The original statement in the original History of the Church was simply mirroring the doctrine of the priesthood as taught in section 107 that states that the quorum of the twelve are to function under the direction of the 1st Presidency.

    Further clarification is given in section 102 that states the when one or more of the members of the 1st Presidency are absent, the remaining one has power to preside in their absence.

    Obviously, this doctrine needed to be altered in order to move Sidney out of the way for the Twelve to claim their contention that he did not have authority over them and they had the right to lead the Church.

    With this alteration in doctrine, it became possible to influence the leading councils and the body of the Church to actuate the principle of common consent and to first appoint the quorum of the twelve to preside over the church, secondly, 3 1/2 years later, Brigham Young would reestablish the 1st Presidency and again, via the principle of common consent, be elected President of the Church by the voice of the quorum and then by the voice of the Church.

    The historical revisionism of the official history of the Church is easily demonstrable. This is because much of the History that Joseph Smith wrote was published in a variety of Mormon magazines and newspapers at the time. The revisions were made later, under the direct guidance of Brigham and were then collected and printed in their altered form beginning in 1902.

    By comparing the “History of the Church” with these Mormons periodicals, it is immediately obvious that substantive changes have been made.

    Another example of how history has been altered is the “Rocky Mountain Prophecy.” This was a prophecy made by Joseph Smith, but in fact was added in after the Saints migrated to the Salt Lake Valley.

    It is not the purpose of this paper to extensively detail the alterations made in the Official History of the Church and other church publications. I simply mention it because you may be wondering how Sidney Rigdon could play such a major role in the restoration movement and yet be characterized in some parts of the history of the church and other publications as a relatively questionable and insignificant player, or one that had a high calling but fell through transgression.

    I wonder how the Lord feels about intentionally changing historical documents and claiming that Gods anointed said something that he in fact did not say?

    You will notice that the primary twelve sections of scripture we used to create the profile of Sidney Rigdon all took place prior to the dedication of the Kirtland Temple.

    In order to better understand what took place in the great succession issue in Nauvoo in 1844 we need to make some amazing observations about events that took place during the 14 year timeline from the legal establishment of the church until the martyrdom of the Prophet Joseph Smith.

    In the words of Wagoner, “The window of opportunity, during which Rigdon achieved co-equal billing with Joseph Smith, dated from 1831-39. During this era he and the prophet, both gifted visionaries, jointly developed the church’s infrastructure and its governing agenda”. During that period of time he notes that “they were virtually inseparable”.

    Clearly, Van Wagoner, a skeptic, doesn’t acknowledge Gods hand in the work, but he nevertheless provides a valid timeline observation here. Namely, that Sidney Rigdon was a high profile leader in the work, working very closely in concert with Joseph Smith until approximately1838-9.

    At that time, something significant happened to SILENCE Brother Sidney.

    Another way of identifying this timeframe is to note the testimony of several of Sidney’s accusers at the time of the succession issue. They testified that Sidney had not been active in his calling as a member of the 1st Presidency during the last five years leading up to the Martyrdom. Again, this puts the silencing of God’s spokesman somewhere around 1838-9

    While addressing the Saints on April 6th 1844 Sidney acknowledged that he had been silenced for the last five years and had not come before the Saints IN HIS TRUE CHARACTER because of SICKNESS and OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES:

    “Elder Sidney Rigdon then rose and said It is with no ordinary degree of satisfaction I enjoy this privilege this morning. Want of health and other circumstances have kept me in silence for nearly the last five years.

    It can hardly be expected that when the violence of sickness has used its influence and the seeds of disease have so long preyed upon me that I can rise before this congregation only in weakness I am now come forth from a bed of sickness and have enough of strength left to appear here for the first time in my true character.

    I have not come before a conference for the last five years in my true character I shall consider this important privilege sacred in my family history during life I hardly promise myself lungs to make this congregation hear me I shall do the best I can and the greatest can do no more.” History of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints  By Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,  Brigham Henry Roberts

    Want of health and other circumstances have kept me in silence for nearly the last five years.”

    Rigdons biographer, F. Mark McKiernan wrote that “During the five years he lived at Nauvoo Rigdon suffered the poorest health of his life. He contracted an unspecified disease (not malaria) which disabled him for months at a time”.

    I want to address the two fascinating issues that Sidney referred to that suppressed his true character and silenced him for about five years. One had to do with “want of health” and the other had to do with “other circumstances”.

    Let us first consider the health problems that Sidney had by spotlighting the 13th major section that provides clues about Rigdon…. section 124.

    Unlike the 12 sections we used to create our profile of Sidney which all came before the defilement of the Kirtland Temple, the failure of the Saints to redeem Zion by the appointed time and the scattering of the Saints from Kirtland, this revelation came many years after that.

    It is interesting to note that in this revelation, God actually acknowledges and addresses Sidney’s health problems:

    Section 124

    God is going to heal Sidney Rigdon

    And if he will offer unto me an acceptable offering, and acknowledgments, and remain with my people, behold, I, the Lord your God, will heal him that he shall be healed;

    and he shall lift up his voice again on the mountains, and be a spokesman before my face Let him come and locate his family in the neighborhood in which my servant Joseph resides. And in all his journeyings let him lift up his voice as with the sound of a trump, and warn the inhabitants of the earth to flee the wrath to come. Let him assist my servant Joseph, and also let my servant William Law assist my servant Joseph, in making a solemn proclamation unto the kings of the earth, even as I have before said unto you.”

    From the above declaration, the Lord is obviously aware of Sidney’s health issues. Sidney has not been making them up.

    The Lord promises to HEAL Sidney if he will offer an ACCEPTABLE OFFERING. He reiterates that Sidney shall be HEALED.

    In section 124 Sidney is commanded to help Joseph write the PROCLAMATION  to the Kings of the earth.

    I want to address some of Sidney’s remarks and the events in his life that may have to do with his health issues but first I want to highlight a most remarkable Book of Mormon Prophesy that appears to be referring to the Spokesman from the loins of Judah.

    In the profile that we created using 12 sections of the Doctrine and Covenants we showed how it is the Spokesman from Judah that will PROCLAIM the gospel and DECLARE the word of God. It appears that Sidney Rigdon is the one that brings forth the Bible in its purity as it originated from the mouth of the Jew as spoken of in 1st Nephi 14:23..

    THe Book of Mormon tells us that the Old Testament that proceeded out of the mouth of a Jew (Moses) contained the fulness of the Gospel. This of course provides a strong testimony of the Book of Moses which comes from the inspired version of the Bible as it reveals that Adam and his posterity had the gospel of Jesus Christ preached to them and Adam was baptized.

    Sidney himself becomes a latter day Jew that helps to bring forth the stick of Joseph as well as the stick of Judah in its pure form. The two sticks become one with the stick of Judah.

    Regarding God’s promise to heal Sidney in the 3rd watch, lets do a key word search to see of Gods promise to heal Sidney Rigdon in the 3rd watch shows up in any of the Book of Mormon Scriptures.

    If you go to an LDS word cruncher and enter “will heal him” it will bring up section 124 AND 3rd Nephi 21. Notice the remarkable prophecy below and how it correlates with the prophecy above in section 124. Notice how the theme of being healed and the theme of proclaiming something to Kings both show up in both ancient and modern scriptural texts:

    And when that day shall come, it shall come to pass that kings shall shut their mouths; for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider.

    For in that day, for my sake shall the Father work a work, which shall be a great and a marvelous work among them; and there shall be among them those who will not believe it, although a man shall DECLARE it unto them.

    But behold, the life of my servant shall be in my hand; therefore they shall not hurt him, although he shall be marred because of them. Yet I will heal him, for I will show unto them that my wisdom is greater than the cunning of the devil.

    Therefore it shall come to pass that whosoever will not believe in my words, who am Jesus Christ, which the Father shall cause him to bring forth unto the Gentiles, and shall give unto him power that he shall bring them forth unto the Gentiles, (it shall be done even as Moses said) they shall be cut off from among my people who are of the covenant.”   (3rd Nephi 21)

    Remember my blog about the President Elect? Remember how I said that the Lord obviously was not talking about William Henry Harrison because he knew that the Old Testament prophesies regarding the Kings of the Earth in the last times were referring to the 3rd watch? As you can see, the kings of the earth will shut their mouths at the time that the Lords Marred Servant is healed and returns to the vineyard!

    Of course 3rd Nephi 21 is an inspired rendering of part of Isaiah 52, speaking about the marred servant that ushers in the Marvelous Work… The Marred Servant in Isaiah 52 is also the suffering servant in Isaiah 53. (This is consistent with the Davidic Servant profile containing the Atonement Statute)

    Sidney Rigdon was not a well man. Sidney Rigdon appears to have been in very poor health much of the time from 1838-9 up to the martyrdom in 1844… during the Nauvoo period.

    Some have speculated that much of his illness was related to the brain trauma he suffered the night that local Cambellite mob got drunk and broke into Sidney and Josephs homes and beat them up.

    Rigdon recalled that: “they broke into my house, dragged me out of my bed, out of the door my head beating on the floor. They dragged me over the wood pile. And on they went my head thumping on the frozen ground, after which they threw tar and feathers on me..”

    His son Wicliffe recalled: “that by the time his 225 lb father was dragged by his heels to the place where he was tarred and feathered he was insensible yet is assailants pounded him till they thought he was dead and then went to get Joseph Smith

    Joseph Smith recalled: The next morning I went to see Elder Rigdon, and found him crazy, and his head highly inflamed, for they had dragged him by his heels, and those, too, so high from the ground that he could not raise his head from the rough frozen surface, which lacerated it exceedingly;

    and when he saw me he called to his wife. to bring him his razor: She asked him what he wanted of it? and he replied, to kill me. Sister Rigdon left the room and he asked me to bring his razor. I asked him what he wanted of it, and he replied he wanted to kill his wife, and he continued delirious some days.”

    We know that the Lord gives us challenges and weaknesses to make us strong after we finally overcome them. The Apostle Paul would make mention of the “thorn in his side” that the Lord had given him.

    Before we evaluate the words of Paul, please remember section 63 when the Lord was displeased with Sidney Rigdon’s description of the land of Zion. Rigdon who had had many experiences in the spirit and was receiving revelations from the Lord along with great honors became prideful and “he exalted himself in his heart”.

    Notice now how just after noting how he had been caught up into the third heaven, the Apostle Paul use the exact same term “exalted” to describe his weakness that the Lord used in describing Sidney Sidney’s weakness:

    Of such an one will I glory: yet of myself I will not glory, but in mine infirmities. For though I would desire to glory, I shall not be a fool; for I will say the truth: but now I forbear, lest any man should think of me above that which he seeth me to be, or that he heareth of me. And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.” (2 Cor 12)


    It appears the Lord gave Paul a “thorn in the flesh” to keep him humble and to prevent him from becoming exalted. .

    We don’t really know what the thorn in Paul’s side was. Some have suggested it was malaria, epilepsy, or a disease of the eyes. Others feel it was more of a mental or emotional problems exacerbated by being surrounded by unbelieving gentiles.

    Regardless of what Paul’s thorn was, the question I want to pose is, did the Lord allow the mob to inflict an ongoing sickness upon Sidney to act as “a thorn in his side” to keep him humble like he did Paul?

    Perhaps the Lord allowed the enemy to hurt Sidney and cause him prolonged illness to silence Brother Sidney for a period of time so that certain prophetic events could take place as the sins of apostate latter day Israel were falling upon the Seer.

    Here is a fascinating bit of information about Sidney that really affected his life in a huge way-

    It appears from credible documentation that Sidney Rigdon suffered not from one brain trauma, but from two! Additionally, these traumas appeared to have affected him both physically, and emotionally as well.

    The first instance happened when he was a young boy and he got bucked off a horse. Here is the testimony of his brother Loammi who later became a physician:

    “Loammi, a physician, reported that when Sidney was seven years old he had been thrown from a horse. His foot got caught in a stirrup and he was dragged some distance before the being rescued.

    in this accident he received such a contusion of the brain as ever afterward seriously affected his character, and in some respects his conduct. His mental powers did not seem to be impaired, but his equilibrium of his intellectual exertions seems thereby to have been sadly affected.”

    Alexander Campbell was the first to make public mention of Rigdon’s peculiar mental and corporeal malady, as he called it.”

    “ … Newell K Whitney .. said of Rigdon..”I was well acquainted with Elder Rigdon a number of years before he came into this church… He was always either in the bottom of the cellar or up in the garret window…”

    “Jedediah Grant confirmed in 1844 Rigdon’s mood swings: Elder R. would not only soar to the highest heaven in raptures of delight, but when dark clouds overspread his horizon he would also sink into the lowest state of despondency.”

    How unusual it is that Sidney would have a brain trauma as a child and another one later in life… one that according to his brother, appears to have affected his moods and his outlook on life.

    I personally believe that the Lord gave Brother Sidney this ailment to be a thorn in his side and possibly for other reasons as well. I believe this is the sickness the Lord was referring to when he promised Sidney that some day the Lord would heal him.

    Rigdons son Wickliffe, provides… insight into his fathers eccentric nature. “Being of a bilious temperament, said Wicliffe of his father, he was sick most of the time in Nauvoo. Illinois: “for weeks at a time he would not be able to leave his bed”.

    “Using modern clinical criteria to diagnose the illness of a historical figure is risky, but “bilious temperament” was a specific disease. In nineteenth-century America the malady was best known as melancholia, a syndrome encompassing dramatic mood changes and madness.

    While the ailment today is usually designated manic-depression illness it has also been called mood disorder”, affective disorder,” “chronic bipolar disorder” and “bipolar affective disorder”.  (Sidney Ridgon pg 116-117)

    Perhaps one of the best examples of how Rigdon’s mood swings affected him is an experience that took place on On May 26 1832-

    Sidney Ridgon had a virulent mood swing caused at least in part from worry over his daughter’s illness and that fact that his family had been shuffled around without a place of their own to live. It had been humiliating depending on the generosity of neighbors.

    A group had gathered into Joseph Smith Sr’s barn for a prayer meeting expecting to hear brother Sidney preach a sermon.

    “We waited a long time before he made has appearance, , at last he came in seemingly much agitated. He did not go to the stand, but began to pace back and forth through the house.

    My husband said, Brother Sidney, we would like to hear a discourse from you today. Brother Rigdon replied, in a tone of excitement,

    “The keys of the kingdom are rent from the Church, and there shall not be a prayer put up on this house this day….

    This greatly disturbed the minds of the many sisters and some brethren. The brethren stared and turned pales, and the sisters cried…. “The keys of the kingdom are taken from you and you never will have them again until you build me a new house

    “ When Joseph, who was out of town at the time returned, he assured the small group of Saints that the keys had not been taken and he “Smith took Rigdon’s license from him  and said, The Devil would handle him as one man handles another- the less authority he had the better.”

    Joseph then appointed council to try Sidney for “having lied in the name of the Lord”. In this counsel Joseph told him that he must suffer for what he had done and that he must be turned over to the buffetings of Satan.”

    One account reported that:

    the devil did handle him by pulling him out of bed and other rough methods.”

    Another account stated that:

    Sidney was lying on his bed alone. An unseen power lifted him from his bed, threw him across the room, and tossed him from one side of the room to the other. The noise being heard on the adjoining room, his family went in to see what was the matter, and found him going for one side of the room to the other, from the effects of which Sidney was laid up for five or six weeks.”

    Shortly after that Joseph Smith noted that Sidney had repented like Peter of Old and after a little suffering by the buffeting of Satan has been restored to his high standing in the Church of God.

    Joseph and Hyrum re-ordained Sidney to the High Priesthood again and shortly after that Sidney did receive a church-provided home.

    It is interesting to note that in recent decades it has been observed that “There is a thin line between genius and madness.”

    Many of the great inventors, scientists, politicians and theologians seem to struggle, teetering on the line between genius and madness that manic depression sometimes enflames.

    This phenomena of genius reminds me of the characterization of Rigdons ministry:

    “No longer did he follow the old beaten track which had been traveled for ages by the religious world but he dared to enter upon new grounds called in question the opinions of uninspired men showed the foolish ideas of many commentators on the sacred Scriptures exposed their ignorance and contradictions threw new light on the sacred volume.

    Particularly those prophecies which so deeply interest this generation and which had been entirely overlooked or mystified by the religious world cleared up scriptures which had heretofore appeared inexplicable and delighted his astonished audience with things new and old”

    I believe the brain trauma/manic thorn in Sidney’s side was a blessing as well as a cursing. It may well have contributed to some of his wonderful attributes.  Clearly he was a religious genius in addition to and of course, because of the inspiration the Lord blessed him with. Perhaps his manic fits of madness enhanced his subtle revelatory skills through which the Lord worked to have him do the preparatory work that he did in the Kirtland area.

    Nevertheless, I suspect that only those who have suffered from long bouts of manic depression can begin to appreciate the burden being carried by Gods anointed servant in addition to the poverty and persecution that he suffered for the cause of Christ. Rigdon made several statements about the tremendous suffering he experienced.. it is easy for those of us in the peanut gallery to mock his statements without experiencing what he experienced.

    Ok, that addresses the sickness that according to Rigdon was in part responsible for silencing him. Again, it is interesting to compare section 124 and 3rd Nephi 21 and the reoccurring themes of the servant being healed and proclaiming something to kings..

    ..but remember, Rigdon also made mention of the other circumstances that silenced him.

    I am going to share with you my speculation on this issue as well.

    I think that Sidney Rigdon felt that the Church was under condemnation and in a state of apostasy after failing to redeem Zion in Kirtland and Jackson County. And during that time when the church was in a darkened condition, various events took place that caused Sidney to become silent and to basically just shut down and observe what was happening to Joseph Smith and the Church.

    There is one event in particular that may be indicative of other similar events that marked a pivotal point in Rigdon’s ministry. It was an event that greatly injured his spirit, offended him and disgraced him in front of the Elders of Israel.

    As mentioned earlier, Sidney acknowledged in 1844 that “Want of health and other circumstances have kept me in silence for nearly the last five years.

    If we go back approximately five years from the statement, it takes us to a very dark period in Mormon history. It was during 1838-9 that the Mormons were fleeing from Kirtland, migrating to Far West and Adamondi-Ahman and entering into skirmishes with the “gentiles” and fighting the Mormon Missouri War.

    During this period of time leaders of the church established the dark secretive band known as the Danites. Again, please remember, the sins of apostate Israel had begun falling upon brother Joseph by this time… he did some of the dark things he did, not because those things were naturally in his heart.. he was sinning outwardly because of the sin offering that was upon him.

    The Danites were a secret order that had sworn to protect the First Presidency regardless of whether they were in the right or wrong.

    In some respects the Danite oath was not unlike the Jesuit Oath . The Jesuit Order was the front for an inner secret society which has been the secret military enforcement arm of the Catholic Church since it was first founded by Ignatius of Loyola of Spain in 1534 during the reign of Pope Paul III.

    We probably have less information about this period of time during the Prophets ministry because many things were done that the Church wanted to down play. One of the few histories we have of this time period is one provided in John D Lee’s book, Mormonism Unveiled.

    John was the adopted son of Brigham Young who ended up becoming the scapegoat for the Mountain Meadows Massacre. He provides a heart breaking account of an incident that happened between Joseph and Sidney Rigdon that I think was a pivotal point in the ministry of Sidney Rigdon:

    During the time that we were camping a Adam-on-Diamond, waiting to see what would be the result of the quarrel between our Church and the Gentiles, one Sunday morning (it had rained heavily the night before and the air was cold) the men were shivering over a few fire-brands, feeling out of sorts and quite cast down.

    The Prophet came up while the brethren were moping around, and caught first one and then another and shook them up, and said, “Get out of here, and wrestle, jump, run, do anything but mope around; warm yourselves up; this inactivity will not do for soldiers.

    Those words of the Prophet put life and energy into the men. A ring was soon formed, according to the custom of the people. The Prophet stepped into the ring, ready for a tussle with any corner. Several went into the ring to try their strength, but each one was thrown by the Prophet, until he had thrown several of the stoutest of the men present.

    Then he stepped out of the ring and took a man by the arm and led him in to take his place, and so it continued – the men who were thrown retiring in favor of the successful one. A man would keep the ring so long as he threw his adversary.

    The style of wrestling varied with the desires of the parties. The Eastern men, or Yankees, used square hold, or collar and elbow; those from the Middle States side hold, and the Southern and Western men used breeches hold and old Indian hug or back hold.

    If a man was hurt he stood it without a murmur; it was considered cowardly and childish to whine when thrown down or hurt in the fall.

    While the sport was at its height Sidney Rigdon, the mouth-piece of the Prophet, rushed into the ring, sword in hand, and said that he would not suffer a lot of men to break the Sabbath day in that manner.

    For a moment all were silent, then one of the brethren, with more presence of mind than the others, said to the Prophet, “Brother Joseph, we want you to clear us. from blame, for we formed the ring by your request. You told us to wrestle, and now Brother Rigdon is bringing us to account for it.”

    The Prophet walked into the ring and said, as he made a motion with his hand:

    Brother Sidney, you had better go out of here and let the boys alone; they are amusing themselves according to my orders. You are an old man. You go and get ready for meeting and let the boys alone.

    Just then catching Rigdon off his guard, as quick as a flash he knocked the sword from Rigdon’s hand, then caught him by the shoulder, and. said: “Now, old man, you must go out, or I will throw you down.”

    Rigdon was as large a man as the Prophet, but not as tall. The prospect of a tussle between the Prophet and the mouthpiece of the Prophet, was fun for all but Rigdon, who pulled back like a craw-fish, but the resistance was useless, the Prophet dragged him from the ring, bareheaded, and tore Rigdon’s fine pulpit coat from the collar to the waist;

    then he turned to the men and said; “Go in, boys, and have your fun. You shall never have it to say that I got you into any trouble that I did not get you out of.”

    Rigdon complained about the boa of his hat and the tearing of his coat. The Prophet said to him: “You were out of your place. Always keep your place and you will not suffer; but you got a little out of your place and you have suffered for it. You have no one to blame but yourself.”

    Imagine how humiliated and demoralized Brother Sidney must have felt to be ridiculed in that manner by another one of the Lords anointed.

    Anyone familiar with the life, history and character of the Prophet Joseph Smith during the early Kirtland years realizes that Joseph Smith was acting out of character when he publicly humiliated Brother Sidney.

    The disrespect and cruelty he showed to Brother Sidney, the rejection of the teachings of the Lords Spokesman that day and the disregard for keeping the Sabbath day holy was one of many defining moments in a pivotal transition that the church was experiencing.

    I believe it had a devastating effect on God’s Spokesman. I believe it is just one of many signs that the sins of apostate Israel had begun to fall upon our beloved prophet.

    The Joseph Smith we know and love NEVER would have encouraged his elders to break the Lords Sabbath and he certainly would not have treated the Lords spokesman so disrespectfully.

    I believe this and other similar events that took place during this darkened period played a part in the silencing of God’s anointed spokesman, Sidney Rigdon. I think this and other events really injured his spirit, hurt his feelings and destroyed much of his credibility among the Elders of the Church.

    Many people of lesser character would have left the Church if treated that way after all they had suffered for the cause… in fact, many did…  Not Rigdon he had been commissioned by the Lord to watch over Brother Joseph and counsel him. He had gazed into the heaven with Brother Joseph.. he knew the work was true although the Lord had covered his eyes as to what was taking place with brother Joseph.

    Whether Joseph was willing to take council or not was out of Sidneys control but he stayed with the Church and quietly sat in the shadows watching for five years until the martyrdom.

    It is important to realize that although Joseph the Seer and Sidney the Spokesman were inseparable during the first six or seven years after they united, there became a rift between them after that and they became estranged.  The seer from the loins of Joseph  would envy the Spokesman and the Spokesman from the loins of Judah would vex the Seer .

    We have discussed that fact that Sidney became silenced as the Spokesman and according to his own words, it was due to health problems and other things. We have reviewed how his health plays into this scenario and I have show how his relationship with the Prophet became strained because Joseph was the first of the two anointed ones to take upon him the sins of an apostate people.

    I now want to suggest that interrelating to the silencing of Sidney Rigdon is the possibility that Joseph took unto himself the calling of being the Spokesman when he had been told not to do so.

    Please notice how the Lord wants to make it clear to Joseph and the Church that Joseph is limited in his stewardship;

    “And he [Joseph Smith, Jr.] has a gift to translate the book [of Mormon], and I have commanded him that he shall pretend to no other gift, for I will grant him no other gift.” (Book of Commandments, Ch. 10)

    Giving further foundation and clarification to this is the Spokesman prophecy in the Book of Mormon. Remember that Joseph the Seer was like unto Moses. He was given a spokesman just like Moses for the same reason as Moses.. therefore the following statement about Moses applies to Joseph the Seer;

    And I will give unto him a commandment that he shall do none other work, save the work which I shall command him…  And the Lord hath said: I will raise up a Moses; and I will give power unto him in a rod; and I will give judgment unto him in writing. Yet I will not loose his tongue, that he shall speak much, for I will not make him mighty in speaking…and I will make a spokesman for him. And the Lord said unto me also: I will raise up unto the fruit of thy loins; and I will make for him a spokesman.

    Many historical accounts verify that Joseph Smith, like Moses was not eloquent like Aaron and Sidney. Sidney was a much better orator.. but as we drill down further into the scriptures, it becomes apparent that is not the only reason why Sidney was to be the Spokesman.

    According to modern revelation, it was an integral part of Sidney’s role and Joseph’s gift was limited to other things… he was not supposed to take that honor away from the Spokeman unto himself.

    In addition to the enmity between the Spokesman from the tribe of Judah and the Seer from the lions of Joseph, the church membership to this day experiences a similar enmity between two separate groups of differing in lineage within the Church… those from the dispersed of Judah and those from the outcasts of Israel. Catalogue that in your mind because we may return to this as we develop this theme in future posts.

    At this point, let us observe that there seems to be a correlation between several changes taking place in the church after the Saints defiled the temple ad failed to establish Zion.

    After the appointed time came and went and the Saints were forced to flee Kirtland; the lack of spiritual gifts, the closing of the heavens and drying up of revelations coming through Joseph Smith and the reversal in many of the teachings of the church took place.

    Now the church was plundering and stealing from the “gentiles” as their forced migration began, they began entering into secrets oaths relating to the Danites and Masonry, and eventually committing adultery via the Spiritual Wife doctrine.

    The public ministry of the Prophet Joseph Smith can be divided in two general periods. The first period would be from the legal restoration of the Church in 1830 to the ministering of angels in the Kirtland Temple in1836. The second period would be from 1836 to the martyrdom in 1844.

    It appears the revelations and the actions of the Saints and the events that transpired ALL seem to point to the fact that 1836 was the major apex or defining moment in the LDS restoration movement and that after the general time, the God of Israel began to withdraw his spirit from the Church.

    The Lord had warned the Saints:

    If you keep not my commandments, the love of the Father shall not continue with you, therefore you shall walk in darkness.” (D&C 95:12)

    He had also warned;

    if this generation do harden their hearts against my word, behold I will deliver them up unto Satan, (Book of Commandments Chapter 4)

    What is it about human nature that causes us to doubt that the Lord would actually deliver his Church over to Satan?

    That ominous warning in contained in the orginal Book of Covenants was really just a latter day re-wording of a prophetic warning in the New Testament;

    And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:  That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness” (2 Thes 2)

    God does turn his people over to darkness after they choose to pleasure in unrighteousness instead of believing the truth.

    While instructing the Relief Society, Joseph Smith made the following statement-

    The prophet Joseph Smith, too, taught that it is possible for the president of the church to lead the church astray. From the minutes of an address to the Relief Society in 1842, we read the following:

    President Joseph Smith read the 14th chapter of Ezekiel — said the Lord had declared by the Prophet, that the people should each one stand for himself, and depend on no man or men in that state of corruption of the Jewish church — that righteous persons could only deliver their own souls — applied it to the present state of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints — said if the people departed from the Lord, they must fall — that they were depending on the Prophet, hence were darkened in their minds, in consequence of neglecting the duties devolving upon themselves, envious towards the innocent, while they afflict the virtuous with their shafts of envy (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 237).

    There you have it from the words of Joseph Smith, the minds of many had become darkened because they were depending on the prophet! Again, prophet worship is a form of idolotry. If you are blindly believing and obeying a true prophet without getting confirmation of what he is saying and doing via personal revelation through the Holy Ghost, you mind will become darkened.

    As sobering and profound as those words are, you really need to read Ezekiel 14 to get the full impact of what Joseph was warning them about;

    “.. Every man of the house of Israel that setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to the prophet; I the Lord will anser him that cometh according to the multitude of his idols; that I may take the house of Israel in their own heart, because they are all estranged from me through their idols”

    Please continue reading the entire chapter in the privacy of your own inner sanctum.. it is hard doctrine, but true doctrine. it is the order of heaven. A true prophet becomes a cursing and a stumbling block to an idolotrous people who come before the prophet to enquire of the Lord with impure hearts.. and God DOES use his prophets to turn apostate Israel over to darkness.

    It was ultimately the closing of the heavens and the fact that the spirit of the Lord was withdrawing from the Saints that silenced Sidney Rigdon and undoubtedly inflamed his depression.

    This hypothesis is substantiated by the closing up of the heavens with regard to the revelations Joseph Smith was receiving as well as the corresponding events that took place.

    If you have not read my previous post entitled “The Bridge Groom Tarried” you may want to do so to get a better understanding of just how critical September 11th 1836 was.

    The Lord had identified that date as the appoint time for the redemption of Zion. Unfortunately, that time came and went, but the cause of Zion was put on hold.

    Another extremely significant sign that 1836 was a turning point in the Church is apostasy that followed in 1837. One third of the members had left the church and many of Joseph’s friends had turned against him. In the midst of this crisis, Joseph received a revelation instructing him that;

    something new must be done for the salvation of the Church” (Smith, History of the Church 2:489).

    That something was the Church’s first foreign mission, one that eventually took nine members of the Quorum of the Twelve to the British Isles.

    Now that the Saints had  broken the covenants they had entered into pertaining to consecration, failed to establish Zion at the appointed time and been forced to take the preparatory gospel from the Gentiles to the Jews, the prophecy of Isaiah was now ready to be fulfilled.

    “For behold, the Lord hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep. For behold, ye have closed your eyes, and ye have rejected the prophets; and your rulers, and the seers hath he covered because of your iniquity.”

    (Book of Mormon version of Isaiah 29:10)

    The gospel had been rejected by the Gentiles and now, the Lord was having the lesser priesthood administer the preparatory gospel sent forth to the remnants of Judah that had been disperse among the gentile nations. The missionary efforts that began at this time would bring large numbers of foreign converts from the loins of Judah into Nauvoo.

    It is interesting to note that over 100 published revelations came prior to the appointed time of September 11th 1836 while less that 10 came during the following eight years leading up to the martyrdom.

    It is because of the closing of the heavens that some of the Saints began accusing Joseph Smith of being a fallen prophet:

    In mid 1837, many members living in Kirtland, including some who had been called to serve in the highest positions of responsibility, rejected the leadership of Joseph Smith, declaring that he was a fallen prophet. While Joseph was lying in bed with a debilitating illness in June, apostates circulated a rumor that he was suffering because of his transgressions”. (The heavens Resound 325)

    Following the defilement of the temple in Kirtland and failure to redeem Zion by the appointed time the heavens began to close and revelation began to dry up.

    From the last years in Kirtland through the Nauvoo era several people accused Joseph Smith of being a fallen prophet because he no longer brought forth revelation as abundantly as he one did.

    Some say I am a fallen prophet because I don’t not bring forth more of the world of the Lord. Why do I not do it? Are we able to receive it? No. He then chastened the church for there wickedess and unbelief“  HC 4:476

    By the time we get into the Nauvoo years many of the Kirtland Saints had previously left the church because they believed that Joseph was a fallen prophet.

    Finally in Nauvoo we have a repeat of the melt down that took place in Kirtland. William Law who had been one of the most loyal supporters of Joseph Smith declares that Joseph Smith is a fallen prophet along with many others. Even Brigham Young had this to say about Joseph’s decision to go to Carthage.

    If Joseph Smith, Jun., the Prophet, had followed the Spirit of revelation in him he never would have gone to Carthage…and never for one moment did he say that he had one participle of light in him after started back from Montrose to give himself up in Nauvoo.

    This he did through the persuasion of others.  I want you all to understand that…But if Joseph had followed the revelations in him he would have followed the shepherd instead of the shepherd’s following the sheep... he did not have one particle of spiritual light in him

    Of course Joseph was mainly following the advise of his brother Hyrum who was the acting prophet of the Church.

    The following chart illustrates how the heavens began closing shortly after the defilement of the Kirtland Temple and the failure of the Saints to redeem Zion by the appointed time of Sept 11 1836-


    (Click on the graphic to enlarge)

    This is not to minimize the fact that the Saints were continually being chastised by the Lord prior to 1836 as well.

    In section 84 the Lord had informed the Saints that the whole church had been brought under condemnation and in section 104 the Lord declared that some of the Saints had broken the covenant of consecration  through transgression by covetousness and feigned words

    The crowning event that seemed to be the tipping point upon which the heavens began to close was the failure of the Saints to redeem Zion at the appointed time by rejecting the law of consecration which is an appendage of the baptismal covenant.

    Few Saints know about this event because it is minimized in the official histories of the church.

    Following the failure of the Saints to redeem Zion by the appointed time, the Lord declared in  Section 112 that;

    darkness covereth the earth and gross darkness the minds of the people”

    Clearly indicating that the cleansing and sanctifying ordinances of the gospel had stopped being effective in the lives of the Latter day Saints. The salt had lost it’s savor.

    The Lord went on to acknowledge that when the time comes for the Judgments of God to fall, “upon my house shall it begin and from my house shall it go forth. First among those of you who have professed to know my name and have not known me and have blasphemed against me in the midst of my house saith the Lord”.

    Finally, in Nauvoo, the Lord revealed that the priesthood had been lost as a result of the defilement of the Kirtland Temple;

    for there is not a place found on earth that he may come to and restore again that which was lost unto you, or which he hath taken away, even the fullness of the priesthood.” (124:2)

    With what we have learned, it all begins to make sense why the latter day Saints no longer show forth the fruits of the spirit.. the salt had lost its savor.

    The above declaration was a wake up call to the Saints.. it appears they had lost the fulness of the priesthood and been reduced to the preparatory gospel. Perhaps this is the significance of Abrahm bringing the Gospel of Abraham at the appointed time that the Saints should have been establishing Zion?

    Could it be that the exact type of what had just happened to the Latter Day Saints had happened to the Children of Israel when they rejected the fulness of the Gospel and Moses was taken out of their midst;

    ..And this greater priesthood administereth the gospel and holdeth the key of the mysteries of the kingdom, even the key of the knowledge of God. Therefore, in the ordinances thereof, the power of godliness is manifest. And without the ordinances thereof, and the authority of the priesthood, the power of godliness is not manifest unto men in the flesh;

    For without this no man can see the face of God, even the Father, and live. Now this Moses plainly taught to the children of Israel in the wilderness, and sought diligently to sanctify his people that they might behold the face of God;

    But they hardened their hearts and could not endure his presence; therefore, the Lord in his wrath, for his anger was kindled against them, swore that they should not enter into his rest while in the wilderness, which rest is the fulness of his glory.

    Therefore, he took Moses out of their midst, and the Holy Priesthoom also; And the lesser priesthood continued, which priesthood holdeth the key of the ministering of angels andthe preparatory gospel;

    Which gospel is the gospel of repentance and of baptism, and the remission of sins, and the law of carnal commandments, which the Lord in his wrath caused to continue with the house of Aaron among the children of Israel until John, whom God raised up, being filled with the Holy Ghost from his mother’s womb.”

    Notwithstanding the fact that the Saints had failed to be obedient multiple times.. the Lord in his infinite mercy gave the Saints one more chance to repent and build another Temple with the ominous threat that they would be rejected as a church with their dead if they did not complete the temple by the appointed time:

    But I command you, all ye my saints, to build a house unto me; and I grant unto you a sufficient time to build a house unto me. And during this time our baptisms shall be acceptable unto me.

    But behold, at the end of this appointment your baptisms for your dead shall not be acceptable unto me; and if you do not these things at the end of the appointment ye shall be rejected as a church  with your dead, saith the Lord your God” (124:31-32)

    As hard as historical revisionists have tried to rewrite history and make it appear that the Temple was finished shortly before the Saints fled Nauvoo, it was clearly not finished. The following is an entry in the personal journal of Brigham Young;

    I met with the council of the Twelve in the southeast corner room of the attic of the Temple. We knelt around the altar, and dedicated the building to the most high.

    We asked his blessing upon our intended move to the west; also ASKED HIM TO ENABLE US SOME DAY TO FINISH THE TEMPLE, AD DEDICATED IT TO HIM…” (HC 7:580)

    Even if the temple had been finished as some historical revisionists claim, it is clear that latter day Israel was disobedient in Nauvoo because the Lord had promised the Saints that if they were obedient, they would not be moved out of their place;

    And if my people will hearken to my voice and unto the voice of my servants whom I have appointed to lead my people, behold, verily I say unto you, THEY SHALL NOT BE MOVED OUT OF THEIR PLACE. (124:45)

    To this end Joseph Smith had warned them;

    Don’t deny revelation, If the Temple and Nauvoo House are not finished you must RUN AWAY.”  Words of JS 179

    The sad fact of the matter is that the Saints were moved out of their place… they did run away.

    In summary, the Lord had revealed to the Saints that he would use Kirtland as a stronghold for five years after which the hedge (priesthood protection) would be removed. The goal was to redeem Zion in Jackson County by the appointed time.

    In conjunction with that declaration, Joseph Smith told the Saints that God had revealed to him that the appointed time for the redemption of Zion would be September 11th 1836.

    Unfortunately, the Saints failed to redeem Zion at the appointed time. Once that time frame expired, a veil of darkness came over the Saints in Kirtland. Their minds became darkened and the love of the Father was withheld as promised.

    After the appointed time, instead of focusing on consecration and having all things in common, they were trying to establish a banking system. The Kirtland Safety Society became one of the primary issues upon which the unraveling of Kirtland took place.

    The simple and undisputable fact is that the revelations that Joseph Smith brought forth warned the Church that their salvation was contingent upon 1) Building the temple in Kirtland, 2) publishing the Joseph Smith Translation, 3)  living the law of consecration and 4) redeeming Zion.

    The Saints failed on three of the four mandates from the Lord. The one success they had was the completion of the Kirtland Temple but they defiled it within a few month and had to flee, ultimately loosing possession of it and resulting in the loss of the higher priesthood.

    Here are some of the warnings the Lord had given the Saints through Sidney and Joseph during the 14 ministry.

    1-“that we should use every effort to accomplish this building [Kirtland Temple] by the time appointed…and on it depends the salvation of the church and also of the world.

    2-“except the Church receive the fulness of the Scriptures that they would yet fail.

    3-“The first great object before us, and the Saints generally, is to [complete] the [Nauvoo ] Temple… to secure the salvation of the Church”

    4-“The Lord would seek another people if Zion did not purify herself” AND “If Zion was not delivered the Church would be destroyed and persecuted” ANDif we don’t exert ourselves to the utmost in gathering up the strength of the Lords house that this thing may be accomplished behold there remaineth a scourge.”

    We normally consider the completion and acceptance of the Kirtland Temple and the visitation of Christ and three ministering angels as a positive event even though, strangely enough the Lord apparently commanded Oliver and Joseph to keep it secret from the Saints for a generation.

    There is apparently much more to this event than what was recorded in section 110. I would submit that the acceptance of the Kirtland Temple became the beginning of the  Blessing and the Cursing in the 2nd watch that will eventually open the 3rd watch when the Lord descends suddenly upon his temple with a curse to judgment as was prophesied by Moses.

    The importance and significance of the Kirtland Temple cannot be overstated. Brother Sidney had warned that the salvation of the Church depended upon it.

    The Lord had chastised them in section 95 for not taking the commandment to build the temple seriously and then warned that the Saints did not keep the commandments to build the Temple, the Love of the Father shall not continue with the Saints and they would walk in darkness.

    “..verily I say unto you, I gave unto you a commandment that you should build a house, in the which house I design to those whom I have chosen with power from on high;

    For this is the promise of the Father unto you; therefore I command you to tarry, even as mine apostles at Jerusalem. Nevertheless, my servants sinned a very grievous sin; and contentions arose in the school of the prophets; which was very grievous unto me, saith your Lord; therefore I sent them forth to be chastened.

    Verily I say unto you, it is my will that you should build a house. If you keep my commandments you shall have power to build it. If you keep not my commandments, the love of the Father shall not continue with you, therefore you shall walk in darkness.”

    If the Salvation of the Church was dependant upon the completion of the temple, it stands to reason that the defilement of the temple within months after it’s completion would also put the salvation of the Church in jeopardy.

    The Church would fail if they did not receive the Inspired Version of the Bible

    Having read in part one how the Spokesman from the loins of Judah was to bring forth the Bible in purity containing the vision of John, it is no wonder that Joseph Smith made the following statement about the importance of the Saints giving financial support so that they could receive the fullness of the scriptures. The consequences of the failure of the Saints to do this is that the Church would fail!

    Brother Joseph Smith, Jr. said … that the promise of God was that the greatest blessings which God had to bestow should be given to those who contributed to the support of his family while he was translating the fulness of the Scriptures… that God had often sealed up the heavens because of covetousness in the Church … and except the Church receive the fulness of the Scriptures that they would yet fail.” (Far West Report, p. 16, quoted in Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, sel. Joseph Fielding Smith, Salt Lake City: Deseret Book, 1938, p. 9.)

    We are reminded of the importance of the JST Inspired Version

    Neither will the Lord God suffer that the Gentiles shall forever remain in that awful state of blindness, which thou beholdest they are in, because of the plain and most precious parts of the gospel of the Lamb which have been kept back by that abominable church, whose formation thou hast seen….

    and after the Gentiles do stumble exceedingly, because of the most plain and precious parts of the gospel of the Lamb which have been kept back by that abominable church, which is the mother of harlots, saith the Lamb—

    I will be merciful unto the Gentiles in that day, insomuch that I will bring forth unto them, in mine own power, much of my gospel, which shall be plain and precious, saith the Lamb.”  1st Nephi 13

    The scriptures prophecied that the Saints of the 2nd watch would stumble. But they also reveal that the day would come when they would get the plain and precious parts of the scriptures restored to them.

    Strangely enough, even though the relationship between Sidney and Joseph had been strained for several years, the Lord continues to give Sidney to Joseph as a Counselor in the 1st Presidency as shown in section 124 given in 1841

    Section 124 continued

    The Lord gives Sidney to Joseph as a Counselor

    I give unto him for counselors my servant Sidney Rigdon and my servant William Law, that these may constitute a quorum and First Presidency, to receive the oracles for the whole church. I give unto you my servant Brigham Young to be a president over the Twelve traveling council; Which Twelve hold the keys to open up the authority of my kingdom upon the four corners of the earth, and after that to send my word to every creature.

    And again, verily I say unto you, if my servant Sidney will serve me and be counselor unto my servant Joseph, let him arise and come up and stand in the office of his calling, and humble himself before me.

    According to the 1828 Websters Dictionary. a Counselor is 1. Any person who gives advice; but properly one who is authorized by natural relationship, or by birth, office or profession, to advise another in regard to his future conduct and measures. Ahithophel was Davids counselor..

    Why is it that even though the office of Counselor in the First Presidency seems to have been a revolving door, having been filled by various and sundry people such as Oliver Cowdery, Jesse Gause, Fredrick G. Williams, Hyrum Smith and William Law, Sidney filled his position as a member of the first Presidency for the entire 13 years until the Martyrdom?

    Yet one of the charges that would be leveled against him at his Church Court would be that he had not been faithful in his calling in the 1st Presidency.

    If Sidney was percieved as unvalient by Joseph and the Lord, one must wonder why he had been chosen as Joseph Smiths running mate for the Presidency of the United States and why he had been the primary orator at the April conference just two months prior to the martyrdom.

    It is true that Joseph and Sidney had been estranged and that Joseph did try to kick Sidney out of the 1st Presidency. Because of the profile of the Davidic Servant contained in the scriptures, we now understand why the Seer and the Spokesman were not working in harmony. The sins of Israel fell first on Joseph’s head.. later they would fall on Sidney’s head, in the interim, they would have a little enmity between them.

    The following point which was published in the Messenger and Advocate in 1844s is well taken;

    And as for Joseph saying he would have him no longer for counselor, it was not his prerogative to shake him off;

    he did not call and consequently could not reject him,

    but at any rate we all know when he was tried before the conference last October, every thing was there disposed of, and Elder Rigdon was sustained by the people and honorably acquitted of all charges against him…

    Section 124 continued

    Sidney will once again lift up his voice

    as the Spokesman

    …and he shall lift up his voice

    again on the mountains,and be a aspokesman before my face.

    After all the incredible experiences Sidney went through, after all he did to build up the kingdom, after being chastised and forgiven several times and then after being silenced for several years, God assures Sidney and the church that Sidney is a KEEPER!

    He will once again lift up his voice on the mountains in the 3rd watch.

    The other thing that surfaces again from this verse if the fact that Sidney Rigdon is the anointed spokesman.

    There is so much history I would love to cover pertaining to Nauvoo and the succession issue but I need to stay focused. I suspect I have already lost most of my readers with the length of this post… which is probably meant to be

    Let us now fast forward a little to the Nauvoo period.

    A few years prior to the martyrdom when Sidney heard about the secret practice of Spiritual Wifery, a perverted form of Biblical Polygamy, which incorporates polyandry and allows the unrestrained passions of a married man to court his neighbors wife in the hope of a higher exaltation.

    When it became apparent that Joseph Smith was involved in this practice and leading others into it, Sidney’s assessment of the doctrine was simple and to the point:

    Joseph has contracted a whoring spirit”.

    You will recall that it was the responsibility of Sidney Rigdon to use the Bible, the Book of Mormon and the previously accepted revelations brought forth by Joseph Smith to prove all new revelations.

    Naturally, it would be the responsibility of Gods Spokesman from the loins of Judah to endorse and prove the spiritual wife doctrine if it was true…

    By virtue of his calling and the spiritual gifts pertaining to it, Sidney understood the Spiritual Wife doctrine as a heresy. He was excersized in the word of God.

    The sins of Israel had not begun to descend upon him and he still had the spirit of discernment… remember, the sins of apostate Israel do not begin falling upon him until after the blood sacrifice has been completed and the fit man places the sins of Israel upon him and leads him away from the congregation.

    Sidney Rigdon knew beyond doubt that the heresy known as section 132 in the current Doctrine and Covenants was a blatant contridiction of previous revelations. He also understood that it was contrary to the order of God to send an angel to FORCE somebody upon the penalty of death to do something they don’t want to do.

    More importantly, he remembered the veiled warning that Lord gave to the Saints within days after he met with Joseph Smith for the first time. The following commandment is in section 38 given way back in January of 1831.

    but beware of pride, lest ye become as the Nephites of old.   (38:39)

    Do you understand what the Lord was warning the Saints about? Do you remember why God destroyed the wicked Nephites from off the face of the earth instead of the wicked Lamanites?

    It was because the insidious sin of polygamous adultery had invested the Nephites because of the pride that had over taken them. Their pride and their sin was even greater than the pride and sin of the Lamanites! Carnal men who practice unrighteous dominion want to have dominion over as many people as possible and to let their lustful desires go unchecked while building up their domain.

    Just prior to giving the veiled warning, the Lord said:

    And let every man esteem his brother as himself, and practise virtue  and holiness before me. And again I say unto you, let every man esteem his brother as himself.”

    The above commandment should be helpful to those who don’t have enough discernment to realize what the veiled warning was about…..    you are not showing your brother the type of esteem you want to be shown if you are coveting his wife and committing adultery with her.

    This veiled warning was actually not the first time this most important moral law had been revealsed in modern revelation. In section 19 the Lord had said;

    And again, I command thee that thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife; nor seek thy neighbor’s life“..

    But as if sections 19 and 38 were not plain enough to get the point across, the Lord revealed in the higher law of consecration contained in section 42 that monogamy in Marriage is actually part of the higher law and the higher covenant with God!

    There is no law or covenant greater than the law given in section 42. The celestial consecration or oneness with God that takes place in the baptism of water and followed by the baptism of fire requires a Godly monogamous sealing between a man and a woman!

    But, as if sections 19, 38 & 42 are not plain enough, in section 49 a great mystery is alluded to pertaining to the purpose of the earth and the progression of the Gods. We don’t have time to go into the mystery other than to point out yet another witness to the law of marital monogamy;

    Wherefore, it is lawful that he should have one wife, and they twain shall be one flesh, and all this that the earth might answer the end of its creation; And that it might be filled with the measure of man, according to his creation before the world was made.

    Finally, as if four testimonies within modern revelation heaped upon the very clear statements in the New Testament and Book of Mormon are not enough, the Lord had Oliver Cowdery pen the “Article on Marriage” which states;

    Inasmuch as this church of Christ has been reproached with the crime of fornication, and polygamy: we declare that we believe, that one man should have one wife; and one woman, but one husband, except in case of death, when either is at liberty to marry again.

    The article on “Marriage” was accepted by a special General Assembly at Kirtland and adopted by unanimous consent in the 1835 Edition of the Doctrine and Covenants.

    It became binding upon the Saints according to the law of common consent. In this way it became the official law of the Church on the subject of marriage. It was  included in all editions of the LDS Doctrine and Covenants until it was removed in 1876 and replaced with what is now known as section 132 under President Brigham Young’s administration.

    There was a definite reason that the article on “Marriage” was inserted in the Doctrine and Covenants in 1835. Church missionaries began converting Cochranites in Maine and other eastern states as early as 1832, some of whom gathered to Kirtland and brought their polygamous concepts with them. Therefore the “Marriage” article was included in the Doctrine and Covenants to make certain that the Church was strictly monogamous.

    Oliver was a member of the committee of four chosen to select revelations and articles which became a part of the Doctrine and Covenants. The committee included Oliver, Joseph Smith, Jr., Sidney Rigdon, and Frederick G. Williams. Even though Oliver may have written or helped write the “Marriage” article, Joseph definitely approved it. In fact, Joseph used it extensively in Nauvoo in 1842 to prove that Dr. John C. Bennett’s polygamous assertions were untrue.

    It is just a little bit ironic that in section 19 the Lord forbids the Saints from committing the two sins that King David had a struggle with…. and yet a Davidic Prophet in the last days appears to be struggling with one of those sins.. does history repeat itself?

    Well, we know from the Atonement Statute that Joseph was not committing this sin because he was inherently evil, rather, the Lord was using him as a sin offering and he was making good on his promise that he would  turn the people over to Satan if they were not faithful and obedient. The Lord used Brother Joseph to test people. This same test is probably going to raise its ugly little head again, so now is the time to deal with it.

    If the Lord chose to turn his people over to Satan as a result of their disobedience, wouldn’t he use his prophet to do it?

    Why did the Saints follow the Lords anointed prophet into a sin so obvious and blatant as that one?

    Because they were involved in idolatry, and prophet-worship is a form of idolotry. The Saints were functioning at a terrestrial level at best… instead of worshipping every word that proceedeth from the mouth of God, they were putting their faith in the arm of flesh.

    Those who are into blind obedience will blindly do anything they are asked to do ESPECIALLY if it is something that appeals to their carnal desires!

    Let me again remind you from what we have demonstrated in the Atonement Statute that Joseph was in the process of suffering from the weight of the sins he had taken upon himself as a result of the intercessory atonement offering he was making.

    He was not doing what he would normally do… remember, he had previously past through the carnal temptations and become sanctified and made his calling and election sure… he was now acting as one of the sacrificial goats without blemish as mentioned in Lev 16. Part of his offering required him to take upon himself the transgressions of Israel. Had he been a God with perfect blood, the sins placed upon him could not have caused him to act themselves out.. like Christ, he would have remained sinless. But he was not a God, he was human, hence his atonement offering caused him to act out the sins of those he was providing the atonement for.

    Sidney had not yet had the sins placed upon him. According to the atonement statute, Sidney was not to have the sins of apostate Israel placed upon his head until after the martyrdom and after the Saints rejected him.

    Although Sidney can clearly observe that Joseph was entangled in iniquity, his eyes were no doubt blinded as to why this darkness had descended upon the prophet. He was no doubt as baffled as most people are when they read about these events.

    Sidney could see prophecy that backed up what was happening in Nauvoo, but the Lord had covered his eyes from understanding the deeper reason for why Joseph himself was doing what he was doing. It appears the Lord needed to cover his eyes that prophecy could run its course… it would only be a matter of time before Sidney would get those sins placed upon him as  well…

    It appears that he did not go out of his way to confront the prophet publically on this issue of the spiritual wife doctrine although he and the prophet had heated words with each other in private after Brother Joseph was accused by Rigdon’s daughter of trying to seduce her into the practice.

    After the prophet left the Rigdon’s house Sidney reinforced his position with his family:

    Smith could never be sealed to one of his daughters with his consent as he did not believe the doctrine” 297

    Many people have wondered why Joseph Smith did not make his revelation on the spiritual wife doctrine public. Why didn’t he openly preach about it in public? Why didn’t he publish it in the D&C? Why was it that the section known to day as 132 did not replace the section renouncing polygamy until 1876?

    Why did Joseph Smith and the others involved in the spiritual wife doctrine sneak around doing it in secret and deny living it in public?

    Sidney Rigdon was a very important reason why Joseph Smith did not openly preach the doctrine of Spiritual Wife Polygamy.

    We know this because we have used the infallible word of God to develop a profile of Sidney Rigdon and we realize that as the Spokesman appointed by the Lord, it was his responsibility to prove the revelations received by Joseph Smith according to the Bible and to expound upon them.

    Sidney Rigdon played a very important part of the checks and balances that the Lord had put into place to avoid false revelations and false doctrines from entering into the Church.

    It would have been difficult for Joseph Smith to publicly preach and publish the revelation on Spiritual Wife Polygamy if Sidney refused to endorese it and use the Bible to prove it was a true doctrine.. even more difficult if the Lords Spokesman was declaring it to be a false doctrine.

    Rigdon was unable and unwilling to prove it to be a sound doctrine from the scriptures because it was clearly a false doctrine. Nowhere in the Old Testament, New Testament, Book of Mormon or modern revelations that had been proven and endorsed by the Spokeman does it teach that you need to be sealed to multiple wives in order to inherit a greater salvation.. clearly that is another gospel than the one taught by Peter James and John. Clearly it is another gospel than the one taught in the Book of Mormon!

    Here not the infallible and eternal word of God pertaining to this matter as revealed through the apostle Paul;

    “But though we, or an angel from heaven [with a sword in his hand], preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” (Gal 1:8)

    Eventually when it was becoming increasingly difficult for those involved in this practice to keep it secret, Joseph, the twelvites and others decided to do an end run around Sidney by getting the high council to vote on the practice of it.

    They realized that if they could use the law of common consent to endorse it, they could circumvent the road block put up by the Lords Spokesman.

    Interestingly, Rigdon was not the only one grounded in the word of God.

    When Hyrum Smith read the revelation on polygamy to the High Council on August 12th 1844 and a vote was taken, three extremely courageous men on the high council refused to sustain it stating that they knew it to be a false doctrine… The three brethren that opposed it were William Marks, Austin Cowles, and Leonard Soby.

    Considering the secrecy of polygamy, it is remarkable that Hyrum would announce it even to the high council.  It is also remarkable that Marks, Cowles, and Soby would openly reject it.  This was a watershed moment in Latter-Day Saint history that prevented the heresy of spiritual wifery to be publically sanctioned and sustained by the Church at that time.

    Despite the public practice and acceptance of the doctrine by the Church shortly after the martyrdom, the article on marriage in the D&C which had been written by Oliver Cowdery and which proclaimed polygamy to be contrary to the laws of the Church,  was not replaced by what is now known as section 132 until 1876, one year before the death of Brigham Young!

    Those three brethren along with others such as Sidney Rigdon and William Law (Law is an other historical figure who has been seriously maligned) made it impossible for polygamy to become a publically endorsed and accepted practice at that time.

    Few people realize just how important the spiritual wife doctrine was in the succession issue.

    You need to realize that the principle of spiritual wifery had been enthusiastically embraced by Brigham Young and most of the quorum of the Twelve yet Sidney and several other high ranking leaders of the Church opposed it because they were steeped in the scriptures and they understood sound doctrine.

    Despite their failed efforts to get the doctrine accepted publically by the Church, several high ranking leaders of the Church including members of the Twelve became blatant in their promotion of this doctrine after the martyrdom.

    One of the many amazing examples had to do with Willard Richards shacking up with Orson Hydes wife while Orson was on a mission.

    Willard Richards nailed down the windows, and fired off his revolver in the street after dark, and commenced living with Mrs. Nancy Marinda Hyde.” (Letter from Ebenezer Robinson page 294)

    Richards of course considered himself to be doing a noble thing. In his mind he was living a higher law. This emboldened him in what he was doing.

    In a sarcastic letter regarding the actions of Elder Willard Richards  the Lords Spokesman wrote:

    If Richards should take a notion to Hyde’s wife in his absence all that is necessary to be done is to be sealed. No harm done, not adultery committed, only taking a little advantage of rights of priesthood.

    And after Richards has gone the round of dissipation with Hyde’s wife, she is afterwards turned over to Smith and thus the poor silly woman  become the actual dupe to two designing men, under the sanctimonious  barb of rights of the royal priesthood” pg 294

    If you drill down deep enough into the real history of the church, it will become apparent that the real underlying issue at the time of the succession crisis was the spiritual wife doctrine not priesthood authority. Note the interesting statement by Joseph Newton;

    I was at Nauvoo during all the time that Elder Rigdon was there on his last visit to that place, and am well acquainted with the cause of all the difficulties that existed, and now exist between him and the twelve and their adherents. It was said to me by many that they had no objection to Elder Rigdon but his opposition to the Spiritual Wife System.”

    Although the sanitized history of the Church really downplays it, the central theme of the leadership controversy in Nauvoo was centered around the spiritual wife doctrine. Here is another revealing segment of an article written in the November 1st 1844 edition of the Messenger and Advocate published in Pitsburg;

    There has been taught in the church a doctrine, which to a man with the revelations of God in his hand may be deemed the most daring and damning that could be imagined to exist among any people, because it is the prolific parent of every vice, and the whole catalogue of crime follows in its train as naturally and necessarily as water will find its level.

    Need I say I allude to the spiritual wife system; to cover up this system, lying was taught to be justifiable, and a sermon was publicly preached, to inculcate the idea and establish the tenet, that under certain circumstances, it was rather meritorious to lie.

    Be it remembered, that there is no sin, which has called forth the signal wrath of Almighty God, more fully than the sin of adultery; and therefore the Lord declared he would “cut off from Israel head and tail, branch and rush in one day. The ancient and honorable (que. Patriarch) he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.

    For the leaders of this people cause them to err, and they that are led of them are destroyed.” Was Joseph Smith cut off for transgression? I answer, if the Lord is to be believed, he was; for he expressly promises that if Joseph abided in him, he should stand in the office in which he was placed, until the coming of the Son of Man. If Joseph is not living, and the Son of Man is not come, he must, admitting the word of God, be cut off for transgression.

    Admitting this fact, we must conclude, that he transgressed the law of God; the question then arises, how did he transgress the law of God? I answer, he taught the doctrine that a man could have ten wives; the Lord has declared “thou shalt have one wife, and cleave unto her and none else.” Joseph taught that David did not sin in having many wives, only in the case of Uriah.

    The Lord declares, Book of Mormon, Book of Jacob, 2d chapter, “David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.”

    But do these men who have arrogated to themselves the authority, who have at one fell swoop blotted the first presidency out of existence, laid violent hands on the reins of government, and delivered over to the buffetings of the devil him whom God has placed in the stead of Joseph Smith –

    do these men preach and practice the doctrine of polygamy? They do. And coupled with Sidney Rigdon’s uncompromising hostility to that doctrine, gives us the key by which we can understand the otherwise incomprehensible fatuity, which could lead them to set at complete defiance the order of heaven….

    Sidney Rigdon declared: “I shall feel it my duty to publish the transactions of the secret chambers, and a faithful history of the works of darkness.” Oh here lies the gist of the whole matter; treason to the cause of spiritual-wife-ism, to that accursed doctrine which makes a man’s glory depend upon the number of his wives; which makes that a stepping stone to exaltation which God has a thousand times declared is the high road to hell….

    give heed to that servant whom the Lord has planted in the stead of Joseph Smith, and turn away from those who teach and practice doctrines contrary to the law and the holy commandments delivered unto us.

    Your brother in the new and everlasting covenant.”


    The following statements from the Lords Spokesman published in a paper provide a good explanation of how he felt about the spiritual wife doctrine;

    Pittsburgh, Oct. 15, 1844.

    Br. J. Gregg — Dear Sir: – Yours of the 14th inst., was received per mail this morning… I have been informed, since Mr. Page published his Bull, and subsequent departure from this place, that he had attempted to teach the doctrine of spiritual wives in this city some time since. This will account for his sudden departure from both this place and yours.

    It would seem almost impossible that there could be found a set of men and women, in this age of the world, with the revelations of God in their hands, who could invent and propagate doctrines so ruinous to society, so debasing and demoralizing as the doctrine of a man having a plurality of wives…

    Those who read the New Testament with care, cannot avoid seeing that the apostles have declared that a corruption like that we complain of, was to make its appearance in the last days. See Second Timothy, 3d chapter, from the 1st to the 9th verse inclusive.

    These sayings which the apostles, at Nauvoo, have applied to the professing world, are as applicable to themselves as to any others now living, or any others who have lived since the days of Paul. In the 6th verse we are told that “For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts.”…

    That the Twelve and their adherents have entered into houses and led silly women astray, is a fact susceptible of the highest proof; and we are authorized by Paul to apply all the rest he has said to them.

    “For if this sort enter into houses and lead astray silly women,” what sort? we ask; the before described religionists, for says Paul,”they have a form of godliness.” The conclusion then is, that they effected the ruin of silly females by, or through a form of godliness…

    It is a fact, so well known, that the Twelve and their adherents have endeavored to carry this spiritual wife business in secret, that I hardly need mention it here, and have gone to the most shameful and desperate lengths, to keep it from the public.

    First, insulting innocent females, and when they resented the insult, these monsters in human shape would assail their characters by lying, and perjuries, with a multitude of desperate men to help them effect the ruin of those whom they had insulted, and all this to enable them to keep these corrupt practices from the view of the world…. No falsehood too great and no perjury too darying, in order to conceal these heaven-daring abuses of mankind…

    Yours respectfully,


    Brigham and his brethren of the Twelve (with the exception of Apostle William Smith who also rejected the spiritual wife heresy) knew that if Rigdon were to preside over the church, those who had embraced the spiritual wife doctrine would be forced to repent and give it up or be cast out of the Church.

    Nauvoo Stake President William Marks was one of the noble brethren that rejected the principle and believed it to be a false doctrine.

    He testified in 1853 that Smith came to have doubts about polygamy before his death:

    When the doctrine of polygamy was introduced into the church as a principle of exaltation, I took a decided stand against it; which stand rendered me quite unpopular with many of the leading ones of the church…

    Joseph, however, became convinced before his death that he had done wrong; for about three weeks prior to his death, I met him one morning in the street, and he said to me, “Bro. Marks, we are a ruined people.”

    I asked, how so?

    He said, “this doctrine of polygamy, or Spiritual-wife system, that has been taught and practiced among us, will prove our destruction and overthrow. I have been deceived,’ he said, ” in reference to its practice; it is wrong, it is a curse to mankind, and we shall have to leave the United States soon, unless it can be put down and its practice stopped in the church..

    Now Brother Marks, you have not received this doctrine, and I want you to go into the high council, and I will have charges preferred against all who practice this doctrine; and I want you to try them by the laws of the Church, and cut them off, it they will not repent, and cease the practice of this doctrine…

    I will go into the stand and preach against it with all my might, and in this way, we may rid the Church of this damnable heresy.” (Zion’s Harbinger and Baneemy’s Organ, Vol. 3 (July 1853), pp. 52-53)

    During the succession crisis when Sidney was in the process of being rejected by the majority of the church through the law of common consent he made several statements that did not endear him to the Saints. Among other things he said;

    he had known for some years that Joseph had not been led by the spirit of God [and gave this] as the reason why he did not attend with him as his counselor”

    As mentioned previously in this article, the spokesman from Judah vexed the Seer from Joseph while the Seer from Joseph envied the Spokesman from Judah… the two had grown apart. The reason they grew appart is explained in the atonement statute, the sins of Israel began falling upon Joseph shortly after the failure of the Saints to live consecration and redeem Zion. They did not begin to fall upon Sidney until after the martyrdom, so naturally the two of them became estranged.

    Sidney shared the belief that others had been more bold about stating, namely, that Joseph’s eyes had been covered. He felt that Joseph had not been led by the Lord for quite some time.

    This is quite an indictment upon both the church membership and Brother Joseph our beloved prophet of the last dispensation.

    Let us remember Sidney’s statement about why he had been silenced and then lets hold the Spokesmans feet to the fire and see if there are any other prophets throughout history that will stand by the ominous declarations that Sidney made.

    As mentioned before, at the April Conference two months prior to the martyrdom Sidney was quoted as saying;

    “Want of health and other circumstances have kept me in silence for nearly the last five years.”

    After the martyrdom he said;

    he had known for some years that Joseph had not been led by the spirit of God [and gave this] as the reason why he did not attend with him as his counselor”

    Clearly, according to his own words, the apostasy of the restored Church contributed to Sidney’s silence. Notice his statements again:

    “Elder Sidney Rigdon then rose and said It is with no ordinary degree of satisfaction I enjoy this privilege this morning Want of health and other circumstances have kept me in silence for nearly the last five years.

    It can hardly be expected that when the violence of sickness has used its influence and the seeds of disease have so long preyed upon me that I can rise before this congregation only in weakness I am now come forth from a bed of sickness and have enough of strength left to appear here for the first time in my true character.

    I have not come before a conference for the last five years in my true character I shall consider this important privilege sacred in my family history during life I hardly promise myself lungs to make this congregation hear me I shall do the best I can and the greatest can do no more.” History of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints  By Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,  Brigham Henry Roberts

    Rigdon felt that his reputation and general visage in the eyes of the world had been distorted and marred by the acusations made about him.. sadly, after he became officially rejected and cast out by the Church, the sins of Israel would fall upon him and he would become perceived by Mormons and Non Mormons alike as a deluded religious fanatic, a would be usurper and a portrait of religious excess.

    Of course, if Rigdon was correct about Joseph not being led by the Spirit for a long time, this would explain why the teachings and actions of the Church membership changed so radically after 1836 when the Saints failed to establish Zion at the appointed time, defiled the Temple and had to flee Kirtland.

    The contrast between the first six years of the church and the last 8 years of the church is pretty glaring.

    Prior to September 11th 1836 The major focus of the Church was on the gifts of the spirit, the law of consecration and laboring for the redemption of Zion. After that period of time, the Church put their faith in money by trying to establish a banking system.

    Prior to the appointed time, leaders of the Church preached against secret organizations, in fact the Book of Mormon had become known as the anti-Masonic Bible. Yet after the defilement of the Temple, leaders of the Church organized a secret organization called the Danites built on the foundation of secret oaths and penalties and began encouraging it’s members to participate in Masonry.

    The Church established four Masonic lodges during the Nauvoo years when they were supposed to be putting all of their efforts and resources into financing the publication of the inspired version of the Bible and the building of the temple and the Nauvoo House.

    Prior to the defilement of the Kirtland Temple, the Church taught and lived the higher law of monogamy as specified and required in the higher law of consecration contained in section 42 and reiterated in section 49. The Book of Mormon had also been thought of as the anti-polygamy bible as well since it takes such a hard line against it.

    After the failure to establish Zion and the defilement of the Kirtland Temple, the insidious practice of spiritual wifery infected the leading quorums of the Church.

    Praise the Lord God for men like Sidney Rigdon, William Marks, William Smith, William Law and others who knew unsound doctrine, perversion and abomination when they saw it.

    According to Sidney Rigdon, Joseph Smith contracted a whoring spirit and had not been led of the Lord for many years.

    Again, that is quite and indictment. Brother Sidney was declaring that the Church had been in a darkened state of apostasy for some time leading up to Nauvoo.

    It is a serious things for someone to accuse Joseph Smith, the Seer of the Lord, of transgression.

    I would suggest that we call upon the prophets to prove or disprove the claims of Sidney Rigdon. We know that all of the great prophets looked upon the events of the restoration movement and prophesied about it. Lets see if the prophecies of the prophets prove or disprove the claims of Sidney Rigdon

    Lets take a few minutes and see if Brother Sidney has the endorsement of any of the prophets and apostles in the Bible and the Book of Mormon that prophesied about the LDS Restoration Movement.

    Was Sidney Rigdon correct when he declared that Joseph and the Church had not been led by the spirit and was in apostasy?

    Who stands with God’s Spokesman in this issue?

    If indeed all of the ancient prophets had prophesied about the latter day Saint restoration movement surely they would either prove of disprove the accusation of Sidney Rigdon. Let’s check to see if any of them can validate the claims of God’s Spokesman Sidney Rigdon-

    Daniel observed that the horn would prevail against the latter day Saints UNTIL the ancient of Days returns:

    “I Beheld and the same horn made war with the Saints and prevailed against them Until the Ancient of Days came and judgment was given to the saints of the most High and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom” Dan 7:21-22

    That prophecy from Daniel is hard to refute. The Saints were to be overcome sometime before the Ancient of Days returns to the earth, and they would not possess the kingdom until that time. The D&C tells us that the Saints were given the kingdom, yet Daniel verifies that the Saints would be overcome and not possess the kingdom again until the return of the Ancient of Days.   The prophet Daniel appears to stand with Brother Sidney on this issue.

    The following promise in the D&C confirms the prophecy of Daniel. The Kingdoms of the world began overcoming the Church back in 1834;

    “But verily I say unto you, that I have decreed a decree which my people shall realize, inasmuch as they hearken from this very hour unto the counsel which I, the Lord their God, shall give unto them.

    Behold they shall, for I have decreed it, begin to prevail against mine enemies  from this very hour.

    And by hearkening to observe all the words which I, the Lord their God, shall speak unto them, they shall never cease to prevail until the kingdoms of the world are subdued under my feet, and the earth is given unto the possess it forever and ever.
    But inasmuch as they akeep not my commandments, and hearken not to observe all my words, the kingdoms of the world shall prevail against them.”

    Jeremiah notes that prior to the final restoration in the 3rd watch, the Saints will “defile” the promised land because of their “detestable” and “abominable” things and because they put their trust in the arm of flesh.

    Therefore the Lord will “reject” them and “cast” the Saints out of the promised land and they will inherit “parched places” in a “salt land” not “inhabited” where they will have a false sense of security claiming “temple of the Lord, temple of the Lord, Temple of the Lord”.

    Modern Revelation provides a 2nd witness that the Saints were practicing “abominations” in Nauvoo and that they would be “rejected” if they did not repent. All of this leads up to the day of “Jacobs Trouble” he will not leave the Saints “unpunished” in the day when he “makes an end of all nations”

    The Prophet Jeremiah stands by the Lords Spokesman Sidney Rigdon.

    Ezekiel Prophesied about the same things that Daniel and Jeremiah did. The Latter day Saints become polluted after the manner of their fathers (the children of Israel) they commit “whoredom and abomination” and are polluted in their gifts.

    All of this leads them into spiritual and temporal bondage. When the 3rd watch comes God will needs to deal with the “false shepherds” and God people will need to finally be led out of with a “mighty hand” and a “stretched out arm”… yet, modern revelation confirms the words of Jeremiah that the Moses-Pharaoh scenario must be repeated in the latter days. Stretched out arm (D&C) strangely enough, the latter day descendant of pharaoh who oppresses the latter day children of Israel well be established in the promised land and be referred to as the “honorable President Elect”.

    The Prophet Ezekial stands with Gods Spokesman Sidney Rigdon.

    Isaiah see the same things that Daniel, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and Sidney saw.

    We have the words of Daniel, Jeremiah Ezekiel and Isaiah that all seem to be congruent with what Sidney Rigdon was saying… but what about Hosea?

    Hosea Perhaps one of the most cryptically profound things that Sidney uttered was that Joseph had “contracted a whoring spirit”.

    Remember, Sidney was a walking bible. When he spoke he would often paraphrase or use similar phrases as the the ancient prophets.

    The words he uttered were carefully chosen. Go to the LDS word cruncher and punch in those two words “whoring spirit” and it will lead you to two references.. one of them is found in the book of Hosea.

    My people ask counsel at their stocks, and their staff declareth unto them: for the bspirit of whoredom hath caused them to err, and they have gone a whoring from under their God… therefore your daughters shall commit whoredom, and your spouses shall commit adultery.. for the spirit of whoredom is in the midst of them” (Hosea 4:12)

    This is the perfect description of what was happening in Nauvoo. A lustful spirit of whoredom overcame the Saints as they entered into adulterous relationships.

    As hard as it is to believe that latter day Israel could become so corrupted after having been given so much light, they had done exactly what the ancient children of Israel had done. How can this happen? The answer is in this same chapter:

    My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge; because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt beno priest to me; seeing thou has forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children

    Hosea provides one of the more clear and concise commentaries on the Latter day Saints. I strongly urge you to read the 13 chapters of Hosea. We don’t have the time to spend anymore time on it other than to share this little tidbit;

    ““They have set up kings, but not by me…. For Israel hath forgotten his Maker, and buildeth temples...” That pretty much says it all.

    Hosea, just like all of the others notes that in the 3rd watch, a remnant of the Saints will “acknowledge their offence” when the trumpet sounds against those who have “transgressed my covenant and trespassed against my law”

    The entire Book of Hosea is a commentary on the Nauvoo era of the restoration movement. It is absolutely heart breaking to compare the LDS history with the commentary in Hosea. .sso and so shacked up with Hydes wife while he was on his mission. Elder Smith, another leader who rejected the spiritual wife made the following observations…

    I realize that Brother Sidneys accusations against brother Joseph are very offensive. However, we have documented from the biblical profile of the Davidic Servant and from the Atonement Statute why and how it all happened.

    The Spokesman from the loins of Judah was right when he declared that the Church had not been led by the Spirit for a long time.. and he is in good company with the likes of Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah Hosea.

    I have provided similar witnesses from the Book of Mormon, the New Testament and the D&C in other articles and posts.

    We have addressed the two reasons that Sidney gave for being silenced, poor health and his feeling that Joseph and the Church had not been led by the spirit for a long time.

    Obviously, in light of the prophecies we reviewed pertaining to the Davidic Servant PROFILE and the ATONEMENT STATUTE, it all makes perfect sense. The sins of apostate latter day Israel had fallen upon Joseph, preparing him to offer up a blood sacrifice for sin.

    As part of the sin that was placed upon Joseph, it appears that another more specific reason that Sidney was silenced in fulfilling his role as the Scapegoat is because Joseph overstepped his bounds and began fulfilling the role of the Scapegoat himself. Notice the very clear warning the Lord gives regarding his limitation put on his :

    “Yea, Joseph truly said: Thus saith the Lord unto me: A choice aseer will I braise up out of the fruit of thy loins; and he shall be esteemed highly among the fruit of thy loins. And unto him will I give commandment that he shall do a work for the fruit of thy loins, his brethren, which shall be of great worth unto them, even to the bringing of them to the cknowledge of the covenants which I have made with thy fathers. And I will give unto him a commandment that he shall do anone other work, save the work which I shall command him. And I will make him great in mine eyes; for he shall do my work. And he shall be great like unto aMoses, whom I have said I would raise up unto you, to bdeliver my cpeople, O house of Israel.Of course the Book of Mormon defines a Seer as a prophet, revelator and translator. The prophecy give us context.. the other major role was that of the Spokesman.. Joseph was to be the Seer, not the Spokesman.”

    During the first six years leading up the Kirtland Temple dedication Sidney was clearly the Spokesman. Shortly after that things began to change.. Joseph began to be more comfortable speaking and giving gospel orations.. as he began doing this, Sidney’s role began to fade.

    Here is another similar admonition in the D&C;

    And you have a gift to translate the plates; and this is the first gift that I bestowed upon you; and I have commanded that you should pretend to no other gift until my purpose is fulfilled in this; for I will grant unto you no other gift until it is finished.” D&C 5: 4

    There is not revelation ever given after this restriction was put on Joseph wherein God commanded Joseph to begin acting as the Spokesman..

  • It is not clear whether Joseph began doing more public expounding of the scriptures because Sidney began to fade from his calling or if Joseph simply began taking the opportunities previously extended to Sidney
    Four Obscure Historical Documents

    the rebellious shall be pierced with much sorrow; for their iniquities shall be spoken upon the housetops, and their secret acts shall be revealed.

    August 8th 1844 was the pivotal day in history on which the succession issue was settled. For an interesting expose by Van Wagoner on why he thinks the transformation of Brigham Young into the image of Joseph Smith is a myth, click here.

    To me it is not an issue, the Lord gave the law pertaining to priesthood succession in section 43 and other places an not of the succession laws that he gave state that the anointed person becomes transformed into the likeness of someone else.

    According to Van Wagoner;

    Several sets of minutes of the afternoon meeting, each in the hand of a different scribe, make it clear that they saw no mystical occurrence during that gathering. Furthermore, virtually all retrospective accounts mention that Young was “transfigured” when he began to speak after Rigdon had spoken.

    Rigdon only addressed the congregation in the morning session, he did not speak in the afternoon. While minutes of the morning gathering do exist, in stenographer Thomas Bullock’s shorthand, they have never been transcribed. By order of the current LDS Quorum of the Twelve Apostles they remain unavailable “for public scrutiny.” Nevertheless, several other accounts of the morning’s events survive.”

    It is almost incomprehensible that people in high places would try to suppress the Thomas Bullocks account of the morning session wherein Sidney Rigdon spoke to the Saints and declared himself to the the Lords spokesman and successor to the Prophet Joseph Smith. I fully believe that people will be held accountable for such acts.

    I have in my possession what is purported to be hand copied copies of the un-transcribed notes taken by Thomas Bullocks in the pitman shorthand.

    I have decided to make them public, to my knowledge, for the first time in history.

    At this time, I want to provide a graphic of part of this document that has been suppressed for approximately 166 years.

    I question what right anyone has to deprive me or the rest of the world of the opportunity to know what God’s Spokesman had to say in a public meeting on that most important occasion!

    I believe the notes taken by Thomas Bullock rightfully belong to the entire Church and to the entire world. It is a travesty that they have been suppressed.

    What kind of a message does it send when the brethren feel a need to hide and suppress historical documents that reveal the facts about important religious events?

    It is heart breaking to me that the words of Sidney Rigdon continue to be silenced even after his death and don’t appear to have any importance to those in high places, or even worse they may feel the content would be a threat. It is also disconcerting that those in high places would feel a need to protect me from the facts… and to prevent me from making my own determinations.

    We have all been given the agency and power of discernment to determine what we want to believe, so why cover up historical documents?

    I am now making a portion of it available to public scrutiny.

    Anyone that has the ability to transcribe these documents and provide them to me to post in this article is welcome to the rest of the notes.

    You may be wondering, what is the purpose of releasing this document since it cannot be read by the average person?

    1- I am hoping that by making it public, that it will find it’s way into the hands of someone capable of transcribing it. I am hoping that my readers will think of anyone they may know, that may know someone who can transcribe this document.

    Perhaps you know someone that works with historical documents or publishers, etc. If necessary, I am hoping that this article will become viral in order to get this transcribed..

    If you are a professional Pitman transcriber please provide me with a bid. I may be able to raise the funds for your services. The following graphic contains approximately 1/3 of the document in questions. I will provide the rest of the document to anyone able to transcribe it for the use of the general public.

    2- Secondly, I believe that there is a very real, specific, definable power associated with written documents, regardless of whether they can be read and understood or not.

    By making this document public, I am sending a statement into the universe. Symbolically this represents the fact that brother Sidney is not going to remain silent. His voice will be heard again.

    Sidney, can you hear me? There is a remnant that cares about what you have to say. Your voice is important, it needs to be heard. It is going to be heard! I realize you will be back very soon and that your voice will be heard upon the mountains again, this gesture simply represents my desire and the desire of others to hear the voice of Gods Spokesman.

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    Having released a document having to do with what God’s Spokesman had to say just before he was rejected by the voice of the Church, I now want to share with you segments of another document that has been obscured for many years.

    We often hear about how Sidney did not act in his calling during the last few years of the Nauvoo era while Joseph was alive but you might be surprised to realize that Sidney was the principal speaker at the April Conference held on the 6, 7, 8 and 9th in 1844 just two months prior to the martyrdom.

    According to Van Wagoner, “The Clayton and Bullock reports of the Conference were amalgamated and began to appear serially in the Times and Seasons, commencing with the May 1st Issue, which was prior to the Prophet’s death. However, before all of Rigdon’s discourse was published, the Prophet was murdered, and the Succession problelm between Rigdon and the Twelve developed, which resulted in the remiainder of Rigdon’s remarkes at the Conference being deleted from the published account of the minutes.

    In Sidney’s remarks during several days on which the conference convened he acknowledged that-

    it was with no ordinary feelings he arose to speak- a privilege which he had not before enjoyed in the same capacity for five years..

    He began recounting various events in the early years of the Church and acknowledged that;

    Had we told openly and talked openly of the things of God that he and will come to pass our blood would have been shed. We should not have been here this day. But we hid ourselves up in secret. There we talked, wept, and prayed and the Angels administered unto us and the Spirit of God was with us and the heavens opened unto us.

    But we should now be in our grave had we proclaimed unto the world what God showed unto us; notwithstanding it was for the benefit of man, and for his salvation, and not for evil….Have I not seen God’s glory by the visions of Heaven? Yea, I have…. those were the beginning of good days- shut up in a little shop with nothing to eat but a little jonny cake and mild and water, only as we would occasionally shoot a squirrel and we lived in an old smokey house.

    Still we rejoiced in the things God was revealing unto us….I have seen the time when the Presidency of the Church sitting now before me, were locked up with them in secret practices waiting upon God.

    We did not go out at all but to eat and etc. But it was soon found out, and a mob came saying God damn you to hell, and threatened our lives. It was at this time that we sat for hours in the Visions of heaven abound the throne of God and gazed upon the scenes of Eternity.

    One evening a Mexican called upon us and he went out armed to see a dozen armed men in the corner of the fence. He wanted to shoot them. Afterwards the mob came in and broke the door, took me and dragged me out through the streets by my heels and with my head pounding over the frozen ground.

    Another company took President Smith, and tarr and feathered him. They tried to turn aquiphertos down our throats. This is the reason why we were in secret under lock and key.

    Now if you will let us work openly we will not work in secret. We will work openly as much as you want. I think I have said enough already to show that the Church has come up through great tribulation.  Let this suffice then upon this subject.

    There is men standing in your midst who are not afraid of men or devils and men whose mouths cannot be stopped unless you take their lives. For they will speak in defense of the innocent of virtue and truth while they live.

    there is men in your midst who have learned there is a great God who can do as He pleases- He can take up the hills as a little things, and such men do not fear death. they know about heaven. They have seen it and know all about it.

    There is men in your midst which you must sustain or go to Hell.

    Save them and you save yourselves.

    Reject them and you go to Hell..

    You have just men in your midst…”.

    Those are pretty sobering words.

    Later in Rigdon’s sermon he makes some very curious statements in light is the fact that he was currently running for the Vice Presidency of the United States and he probably had at least some degree of understanding pertaining to his priesthood right through the loins of Judah to eventually rule on the throne of Israel;

    God teaches his servants to respects kings, Governors, Presidents and men in authority,

    But I have a right to proclaim myself a King and a Priest unto the Most High God.

    Yet I will not transgress your laws….

    I don’t want any office in this government,

    for I am determined to be a King in the Kingdom of God.

    What, be a King in Heaven and quarrel about the office of constable on Earth?

    Rigdon then gives the great key in identifying where the Kingdom of God is… namely that it is with those who hold the power over death, plagues, sickness and miracles;

    Then one of the main things in the Kingdom of God is to let a man know what to do, what glory kingdom and power he can gain. Man is taught a principle so that when it enters the mind if has the power over death, plagues, sickness. The gift of miracles, this is one great evidence of the work the power of God. This then is the Kingdom of God

    Rigdon then points out that all religions that have anything less than the power over life and death and miracles can only bring hurt instead of doing good;

    All religions then that there is in the world that has not these tings, has a tendency to do hurt instead of doing good, for it teaches those things are done away.

    Hence, if a religion looses the fulness of the priesthood and is left with the preparatory priesthood administering the preparatory gospel it becomes a cursing to the people rather than a blessing. it can only bring forth hurt instead of good.

    Rigdon went on to warn that God would;

    take all kingdoms of the world out of the way- He would break in pieces and subdue and He would teach the kings and all powers the way that they may have a chance. There is no power anywhere else unto Salvation.”

    Rigdon then came back to the subject of miracles and the power of the holy ghost and proved thru the scriptures that if the Church is not experiencing prophecy dreams and healings it does not have the authority to save;

    The doctrine Peter taught was different from sectarians. His doctrine was repent and be Baptized and you shall received the Holy Ghost. Take a view of this subject. Look at the spirit of promise. View the congregation on that day . They were strangers not having a knowledge of Salvation.

    They were strangers to the power of God and did not know that Jesus Christ was crucified and all they knew about it was what Peter told them on the day of Pentecost, 14 verse of 2 ch. of Acts.

    The only knowledge they had about the Holy Spirit was what Peter taught them by quoting the prophet Joel 37 verse. Now mark this, Peter had  defined the spirit of God of the fruits of it be prophecy, dreams, visions, revelations, and etc.

    Yes this is the spirit of God the spirit of Prophecy, dreams, visions, heal the sick, and all the great things, and I will in the last days pour out my spirit upon all flesh.  This is the definition oft he Spirit. All were called to be baptized without any exceptions, villains, Harlots, scoundrels and all.”

    He then gives a very clear explanation of the fruits of the Spirit when the fulness of the Gospel is on the earth;

    I will now sum up the testimony. What is a man to preach when they go out? Tell the people to repent, quit their iniquity , be Baptized and you shall received the Holy Ghost, dream dreams, see visions, and prophecy and it they don’t tell them this, they preach another gospel

    There you have it. From the mouth of God’s Spokesman two months before the martyrdom and his excommunication, he is clearly the principal speaker at the April Conference warning that any church that does not have the gifts of the spirit, dreams, visions, prophesying, miracles, does not have the power to save.

    Any group teaching that such things are not required in the church is preaching another gospel.

    It is truly sad that the above remarks have become obscure and not easily available to Latter day Saints.. and sad that the remainder of his remarks were not made available in print as a result of the succession issue that broke out while the Times and Seasons was in the process of publishing periodic segments of the conference talks.

    Now that we have produced the un-transcribed minutes of the August 8th 1844 Morning Session oration of the Spokesman as a sign and token of the un-silencing of Sidney Rigdon and we have provided some of the incredible words he spoke as the primary speaker in the April 1844 Conference, let us now look at some of the amazing things that transpired in this Church Trial.

    The next document I want to address sheds an amazing amount of light on the succession issue.

    It is the transcript of the Trail of Sidney Rigdon.

    Like the Bullock document, it had been unavailable “for public scrutiny by order of those in high places for four generations.

    It is my understanding that several years ago a Mormon Fundamentalist and his helpers  were able to sneak a copy of this document out of the Church Historical Library. They now sell this and a host of other obscure documents for those with enquiring minds.

    I thought it would be valuable for people to be aware of some of the surface issues that were discussed at the trial that people in high places don’t want people to know about.

    Again, as mentioned earlier, the real issue was the Spiritual Wife Doctrine, but since the the twelve could not make that the main issue publicly, they needed to challenge his right to preside over the Church and/or they needed to find a reason to cut him off for transgression.

    Of course the Quorum of the Twelve according to revelation and according to the mandate of the Prophet Joseph Smith, were not allowed to preside or officiate in Zion without special permission from the First Presidency. Their calling was to be a traveling missionary quorum.

    They therefore conspired with other local leaders to hold the court even though the twelve were really dictating what was taking place.

    There are several fascinating things you need to know about the trial and excommunication of Sidney Rigdon. The first is that when they sent notice to him that a trial was being held he notified them that he was not well… they decided to proceed anyway in his absence leaving him without the opportunity to defend himself. Rigdon was tried in absentia.

    Secondly, most of the charges brought up by the Twelve were either the same ones that had been made when he had been tried previously by Joseph Smith. Some were from even earlier times.

    Although the members of the High Council trying brother Sidney were almost unanimous in their desire to thrust him out of the Church, there was a red herring that took Brigham and his fellows by surprise. It came in the form of William Marks, one of the most noble and well respected leaders of the Church. He was the Stake President of Nauvoo. When previous charges were brought up Brother Marks made the following comment;

    Now  I think if Brother  Rigdon was restored at that time  [referring to the previous council that Joseph Smith had held against Rigdon during the previous fall] we ought not to go beyond the conference  to fetch  up charges today; but there are charges fetched up for years back.

    It is known that he was restored  to  full  faith and fellowship  last fall.  I have heard Brother Joseph say repeatedly  since that time,  that all things was right between  them. Just before Elder  Rigdon left  here I heard Brother Joseph  say that all things were right between them.

    Sister  Emma had a good  many  feelings against Elder Rigdon, but they are all  done away. She has said  within a few months, and in fact within one week that she was on as good terms with Elder  Rigdon as she had ever been since  be was a member of the church.

    Feeling a little frustrated and desperate realizing that there was an advocate of Sidney Rigdon’s in the proceedings, another charge was that Rigdon had claimed to have had revelations in Pittsburg just prior to his return to Nauvoo.

    Several of Rigdon’s accusers claimed that his revelations were from the Devil. They asserted that the Quorum of the Twelve had authority to lead the Church without being under the direction of the First Presidency. There contention was that the Church could function just fine without a First Presidency.

    Again President Marks boldly responded;

    “ to his revelations  being from  the Devil,  I am sure I don’t  know whether they are from  God or the  Devil.

    The Twelve and High Council both know  my mind differs  from  theirs  respecting  the organization.  I had always been taught that the First Presidency  would remain  and always be with the Church.

    I had always understood  that the Church would be imperfect without a quorum of three to stand as a First Presidency,  and I cannot find any law to  say that this quorum should ever be dropped  (D&C 107:2- 22   65-66)


    This testimony by Marks was actually nothing new to anyone. The revelation making Rigdon a Prophet Seer and Revelation was a matter of public record. Furthermore, Joseph Smith had the following annoucement published in the …. for all to see.

    After testifying that he participated in the ordination wherein Sidney was ordained a prophet seer and revelation, Marks then tackled the questions of transgression;

    I have known for two years, and according  to my understanding  he has not lost it through transgression. I still feel  that he  is a member of the quorum of the First  Presidency, and I always expected  that the quorum would be filled up the  same as at the commencement.

    I always felt that there was a power and responsibility in that quorum which did not exist anywhere else. I will read  an extract from  the 84th  section  of the book of Doctrine  and Covenants:

    “Verily I  say unto you, the Keys of this Kingdom shall  never be taken from  you, while thou art  in the world, neither  in the world to come: nevertheless,  through you shall the oracles  be given to another” (D&C 90:3-4)

    This  is what I ever supposed  would be the case that through him the oracles  should be given to another who should be Prophet,  and a Seer and Revelator,  and through him to the Church.

    I have always felt since last special  conference (when the twelve took  control of the church) that the order was not according to this pattern.. .

    I always supposed that one would receive  the oracles  from  Joseph and give them to the  Church. Now brethren,  I have served  diligently to get at the right of the matter,  and I know I am honest  and wish to know how it  should be.  I will read  another extract  from  the Doctrine  and Covenants,  which you will find  on the ninety-sixth page.

    I never supposed  that this quorum (the quorum of the 1st Presidency) could be disorganized  while there was one or two left.  I have ever  felt that Elder  Rigdon  sustains his authority;

    I never believed he has lost it through transgression;  I believe  he is the man to receive the oracles  from  Brother Joseph and give them to the Church (D&C 90:3-6) all  I want is to have the thing  right,  and when I believe it is right, I am as ready to confess  it as any other  man.  (He then read  several extracts from D&C  102:9-11);

    “The president  of the church, who is also the president  of the council  is appointed  by revelation,  and acknowledged  in his administration  by the voice of the church and it is according to the dignity of his office  that he should preside  over the council of the church and it is his privilege  to be assisted by two other  presidents,  appointed  after  the  same manner that he himself was appointed.

    And in case of the  absence  of one or both of those who are appointed  to assist him,  he has power  to preside over the council without an assistant;  and in case he himself  is absent,  the other  presidents  have power to preside  in his stead, both or either  of them (D&C 102:9-11)

    When this organization  is broken up there  is a quorum broken up which  is of great power and authority,  and I always thought it ought to have been continued.  The church has always supposed  that the Twelve were to bear  the gospel  to all the world (107:23,33), and when they are absent,  who will preside  over the church? (D&C 126:1-3)

    We know that it  is necessary  for individuals to preside  over the whole Church,  now, we are  losing this office  and power and authority, but  I feel  as though we don’t want to lose anything.

    I feel that we ought to keep up the organization, if it is right to do so. When Elder  Rigdon first came from  Pittsburgh  he said  it was his place  to receive  the oracles, but there was a delicacy  in Brother Rigdon in presenting his claims to the people;  he supposed  there would have been some individual  who would have taken up the case.

    It appears  from  what has been stated  this morning, that questions  have been put which seems to bring  a contradiction.  If  Elder Rigdon has done anything worth of being severed  from  the Church, I feel to go with the church, and to be satisfied  with what they  do.

    I don’t  know that I can see  anything  worthy of  cutting  him off  at the present  time.  Probably  I am prejudiced  in his favor;  if  it is  wrong I hope  the brethren  will  forgive me.  When I have set with the  High Council  I have always  tried to divest my self of  prejudice.

    President Marks then brings up a very important principal in church administration that had been overlooked. The D&C tells us that when a High Priest is being tried, six men on the high council should be appointed to make sure that the accused is being treated fairly;

    ” I am willing  that the high  Council  and church should act on this case,  if they think best.  I felt  as though there was a great  many men here  who were  saying  hard things  against  him and nobody  to speak a word for  him, and I have volunteered to  say a few  words  in his  defense.

    I have  had a  conversation with Elder Rigdon and I cannot  find that he has committed  a crime.  The Church has never cut off  any person without a crime  was proven  against  him.

    Now  is there  a man in the Church who has received the ordination  of a Prophet,  Seer  and Revelator?  if there  is  I want to see him.  There has  been ordained  Prophets,  Priests  and Kings,  but I have never  heard of  anyone being ordained  a Seer and Revelator.

    I think I am knowing to all  the ordinations,   but I don’t know of  a man who has  been ordained  to the office  and calling  Brother  Sidney  has; and if  he is  cut off,  who will  we have to obtain revelations?”

    The pressure on William Marks must have been horrendous. He knew that those conspiring against Rigdon had made up their minds to sever Rigdon from the Church before the trial was even convened.. their minds were made up, yet Marks was standing up among all of these strong personalities and challenging them.

    He was providing a testimony that he was personally aware of every man living that had been ordained a prophet seer and revelator and he says he knows for a fact that Sidney Rigdon is the only man living in the Church that holds those keys!

    If Brigham Young or anyone else in the room disagreed with that statement, that was the time to set things right yet they all sat silent. What Marks says next is a priceless tid bit of information relating to the priesthood and church government.

    He points out that if they cut Rigdon off, the Church can never have a legitimate First Presidency because THE QUORUM OF THE TWELVE DON’T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ORDAIN SOMEONE A PROPHET SEER AND REVELATOR!

    A man must be in possession of this power to be able to ordain  a Prophet, and a Seer and a Revelator.  If there  is  a man ordained to lead this people,  [other than Sidney Rigdon] I do not know it.

    I don’t believe there are sufficient  revelations  given to   lead this people,  and I am fully of  the belief  that this people  cannot build up the kingdom  except  it is  done by revelation.”

    Little did Marks realize it but he was setting the foundation of his own excommunication. His unwillingness to accept the spiritual wife doctrine and his refusal to ultimately submit the the authority of the quorum of the Twelve would result in him being cut off from the Lords Church.

    What a sobering time in Church history! On August 8th 1844 the voice of the people had rejected Sidney Rigdon as the presiding president of the Church. Now exactly one month later on September 8th 1844 Rigdon was severed from the membership of the very church he had presided over in concert with the prophet Joseph Smith.

    Parley Pratt acknowledged that the  “salvation of  the  church  was on  the line“.  This observation was quite profound, the consequences of the action they were about to take had much more to do with the future  of the church than the membership of one man.

    The Church had rejected Sidney Rigdon as the presiding president of the Church via the law of common consent. They had the opportunity to follow a living  “Oracle” or choose to be ruled by  “Kings” the way ancient Israel was ruled. Now …the outcome of that trial  would determine if Gods Spokesman from the loins of Judah was to be cast out from among them.

    Joseph  Smith had been the type and shadow of Moses.  Hyrum had been typological to Aaron.  Sidney will be typological to Joshua when he returns in the 3rd watch. Brigham Young was a very strong personality  who was a great organizer colonizer,  religious reformer and leader.

    He is charactorized in Leviticus 16 as a “fit man”. Some feel that Brother Brigham might be  typological to Hezekiah or one of the other  kings of Judah or Israel.

    During the succession debate Brigham Young assured the church that Joseph would have no successor and assured them that the twelve apostles would stand at the head and lead the Church as a quorum, but three and half years later, he reversed his position; and by the vote of man was elected to be their First President;

    “I was unanimously elected President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints with authority to nominate my two counselors, which I did by appointing Heber C Kimball my first counselor and Willard Richards my second Counselor, and the appointments were unanimously sustained.” (HC vol 7 pg 287 & 7:24)

    To his credit, Brigham Young never claimed to be a prophet seer and revelator nor did he claimed to be the legal successor of Joseph Smith;

    “A person was mentioned to-day who did not believe that Brigham Young was a Prophet, Seer, and Revelator. I wish to ask every member of this whole community, if they ever heard him profess to be a Prophet, Seer, and Revelator, as Joseph Smith was?…Who ordained me to be First President of this Church on earth? I answer, It is the choice of this people, and that is sufficient.” “The brethren testify that Brother Brigham is Brother Joseph’s legal successor. You never heard me say so. I say I am a good hand to keep the dogs and wolves out of the flock.” (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 320)

    Some of these issues will probably be arising again very shortly. Keep in mind that as I pointed out earlier in this article, the real underlying issue of the succession controversy was over the spiritual wife doctrine, it didn’t have to do with authority or transgression on the part of Ridgon, Brigham Young and the Twelve realized that if they didn’t cut Rigdon off, they would have needed to stop practicing adultry or been cut off themselves.

    Had Rigdon embraced the spiritual wife doctrine there is a good chance the quorum of the Twelve would have been happy to continue working under his direction.

    Nevertheless, the sensitive issue of the spiritual wife doctrine was still being covered up by those who were secretly practicing it so the twelve and those conspiring with them needed to create a reason to get Rigdon out of the way. While they did mildly challenge his authority, the strongest argument they had of excommunicating him was to show that he was a transgressor… The ultimate finding of the court was that …

    Having reviewed the profound testimony of Stake President William Marks at the trial of Sidney Rigdon, we can look back at the fateful day that the Spokesman from the loins of Judah was on the stand declaring his priesthood right.

    A fit man, jumped on the stand and wrested the kingdom away under the law of common consent which enabled the Saints to cast their voices for something else.

    Essentially the following question was asked by Brigham Young;

    Would you rather be led by a prophet-spokesman or by a guardian?

    We are 14 years of age now. Ch[o]use your guardeen and when you get to be 21 then do business for youselves. You can save yourselves or Damn yourselves.”

    As brother Sidney sat in his chair, with his face buried in his hands in disbelief, one can only wonder what he was thinking.. and what the Lord was thinking..

    The words of the Lord to the Prophet Samuel come to mind;

    “Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.”

    I now want to share a few excerpts from a fascinating unpublished revelation that has been lost and forgotten simply because virtually everyone in Nauvoo at the time of the succession issue rejected it. I doubt there are 1000 people in the Church today that have heard of it.

    It was purportedly received on April 7 1841, several years before the martyrdom. It appeared in the “Messenger and Advocate” and also was copied from that publication into the May 10th edition of “The Prophet”. The instructions given to Joseph and those with him when it was recieved were to keep it secret and make it public at the death of Joseph.

    The revelation was to be kept in John C. Bennetts safe-keeping until the death of Joseph Smith.

    There are several reasons why the revelation never gained any traction; one is that Bennett was not seen as a credible source by most members of the church by the time of the martyrdom, secondly the wording in it was extremely odd and quite different from previous revelations. Words such as Imperial Primate, Triumvirate, viceroys, executive dominion, halcyon order, and illuminati are sprinkled throughout.

    The wording is clearly talking about a KINGDOM coming forth.

    Lastly, it states that Sidney Rigdon was the rightful successor to the prophet Joseph Smith. That, of course was not a popular belief for those hoping to maintain their station among Gods people.

    I am not hoping you will believe it is true nor am I announcing that I have accepted it to be true. I am simply allowing others the agency to read it and judge for themselves if they think it is true… I feel it is worth mentioning because

    a) it has some remarkable prophecies and doctrines that need to be examined in light of the 20/20 hindsight that comes four generations later.

    b) it played a role in church history. There is reason to believe that Rigdon, if only for a short period of time may have believed it.

    Here are a few of the remarkable things contained in this enigma:

    1-Joseph Smith is to be a Great King and Imperial Primate over all Israel

    2-One of them (speaking of Sidney and Hyrum) shall survive Joseph and shall be as Joseph unto my people

    3-As the “key of doctrine” has been given unto Joseph so shall the key of “conquest” be given to Sidney and the great “key of the father” shall be given to Hyrum.

    4-“..seal up this revelation and preserve it while Joseph yet pure and sacred and at his decease thou shalt give it to him who may be appointed to receive it..”

    5-“My people will reject their prophet and refuse council, they will follow rulers that will usurp authority for filthy lucre’s sake”

    6-“The apostasy shall be great and shall be ruled by 12 horns pushing them to destruction”

    7-eventually “many of the apostasy shall return to God and he who holdeth the Key of Conquest shall prevail”

    8-“The remnant of my people who follow not that leader (Key of Conquest” shall be cut off from the true fold’

    9-The True Church shall be gathered to a delightsome city and afterwards many shall will go unto the land that I will tell them of by my servants the prophets in that day.. a land flowing with milk and honey

    10-Emma shall be great, for she holdeth records and a great key of knowledge that the apostasy know not of.

    11-“The glory of Zion doth not yet appear, for the kingdom that shall be set up shall be dissolved, and the kingdom holding the new keys shall prevail

    12-“My servant the prophet, holding the key of conquest, shall consummate all these things, and all who will not hearken to the voice of that king shall be cut off from amongst the people”

    I will be posting this revelation on a website since it is nowhere to be found at the present time. I will be providing the link HERE

    In closing
    , let me remind you that the folly of the Gentiles has begun to manifest itself and the time is soon at hand when God will set his hand again, a second time to recover his people.

    “…the Savior said, when those tribulations should take place, it should be committed to a man, who should be a witness over the whole world, the keys of knowledge, power, and revelations, should be revealed to a witness who should hold the testimony to the world;”

  • “I have read it precisely as the words flowed from the lips of Jesus Christ– John the Revelator saw an angel flying thro’ the midst of heaven, having the everlasting Gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, &c. the Scripture is ready to be fulfilled when great wars, famines, pestilence, great distress, judgments, &c are ready to be poured out on the Inhabitants of the Earth–John saw the angel having the holy Priesthood who should preach the everlasting gospel to all nations,–God had an angel, a special messenger, ordained, & prepared for that purpose in the last days—” ( Click here to see entire sermon)

    The times of the Gentiles is about to come in again. The Second commission in the 3rd watch will result in the return of Gods servants to his vineyard. The light is about to shine forth among those who sit in darkness.

    Prophecy reveals that the time will come when a remnant of the righteous Gentiles will repent and the Marvelous Work shall begin. The Dispensation fo the Fulness of Times shall come in and their shall be a great refreshing.

    Let me suggest that prophecy never happens the way the masses expect it to happen and even those who are watching will be surprised at how things unfold.

    It is time to be weaned from the milk and to ingest the meat. Deep things must be comprehended.

    It is pretty clear that Joseph the Seer and Sidney the Spokesman will be the two that oversee the binding up the law and the sealing up of the testimony.

    We have addressed the mystery of Joseph Smith and provided several pieces of the prophet puzzle by showing that he did act out the sins of apostate Israel, provide an acceptable offering, and intercessory blood sacrifice for latter day Israel, and that he will return as a refiners fire to purify the rest of the sons of Levi that they may offer an acceptable offering unto the Lord….

    We know that Joseph Smith acted in the role of a witness, revealer, and intercessor.

    Notice also that when Joseph Smith returns for the last time as Elijah the restorer he will “be like a refiners fire” and “shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver“. Are we ready to stand before God’s Servant. Can we withstand the heat?

    In conjunction with this possibility, notice the following prophecy that Joseph Smith made about how he will shine like the sun when he returns in the 3rd watch;

    I then gave a relation of my situation at the time I obtained the record [Book of Mormon], the persecutions I met with, and prophesied that I would stand and shine like the sun in the firmament when my enemies and the gainsayers of my testimony shall be put down and cut off, and their names blotted out from among men” (tpjs pgs 69-70)

    Now then.. what about Sidney Rigdon?

    We know from modern revelation that Sidney will be the one anointed to declare the acceptable year of the Lord;

    “The aSpirit of the Lord bGod is upon me; because the Lord hath canointed me to dpreach egood tidings unto the fmeek; he hath sent me to gbind up the brokenhearted, to hproclaim iliberty to the jcaptives, and the opening of the kprison to them that are bound; To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of avengeance of our God; to bcomfort all that cmourn;”

    Joseph Smith made the following statement..

    the throne and kingdom of David is to be taken from him and given to another by the name of David in the last days, raised up out of his lineage” (TPJS, p. 339).

    Who was Joseph Smith referring to?

    Someone was going to arise in the 3rd watch from the lineage of King David that would reign as King over Israel.

    Keep in mind we already have a precedent for the fact that God sometimes changes the name of his prophets when they progress… (Abram-Abraham Jacob-Israel)

    Remember Isaiah 11 and D&C 113? One of the distinguishing differences between the lineage of Joseph Smith and that of Sidney Rigdon was that Joseph was “partly” a descendent of Jesse and David while Sidney was a full blooded descendent of King David.

    “Behold, thus saith the Lord, it is a descendant of Jesse, as well as of Joseph, unto whom rightly belongs the priesthood, and the keys of the kingdom, for an ensign, and for the gathering of my people in the last days.”

    That would indicate that Sidney held the Davidic right to rule as a king in Israel.

    Note this very interesting verse in the D&C 58:22

    Wherefore, be subject to the powers that be, until he reigns whose right it is to reign, and subdues all enemies under his feet.

    Those not well versed in the scriptures may assume that scripture is referring to Jesus Christ… and typologically is it. Also in the sense that the Davidic King of the 3rd Watch is Gods literal representative on earth also makes it applicable, however, the literal interpretation of that scripture refers to the Davidic King that comes to rule. The one mentioned by Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah and Hosea.

    In fact, if you will do a key word search using the phrase “whose right“, it will link section 58 to Ezekiel 21:27 which speaks of the time when the wicked prince that is over apostate Israel will be overturned and the Lord will abase him while exalting the rightful one whose right it is to reign.

    And thou, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity shall have an end, Thus saith the Lord God; Remove the diadem and take off the crown: this shall not be the same: exalt him that is low, and abase him that is high. I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.

    The statement from Joseph Smith and the above two scriptures along with the incredible profile the Lord provides of Sidney Rigdon seem to point to poor old lowly Sidney Rigdon as the rightful heir of the Davidic Throne.

    He is the one that the Book of Revelation refers to as the “Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David” He is the one that when the 3rd watch opens “hath prevailed to open the Book and to loose the seven seals” so that the Seer from the loins of Joseph could “open the seals thereof“.

    Indeed it appears to be brother Sidney that is sent from the presence of the Lord to declare:

    I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star

    Praise the Lord God for his Servant Sidney Rigdon. The first part of his calling was performed in dignity and sacrifice. The second part shall not doubt be glorious as the Lord God uses him to bring about his work and his glory in bringing to pass the immortality and eternal life of man.

    All of this is of course made possible by the infinite and eternal atonement of Jesus Christ.

    This brings us to the end of this tribute to Brother Sidney. I apologize to you the reader and to Brother Sidney himself for how inadequate this has been. I beg your forgiveness for any mistakes that I have made. I assure you it has not been intentional. To the extent that this tribute helped to shed some light about the past and future ministry of God’s Spokesman I give glory to the God of Israel, Jesus Christ.

    Truly, Brother Sidney kissed the rod and carried a burden we don’t comprehend. Perhaps it would be appropriate to end this tribute to Brother Sidney by sharing a blessing he received at the hands of his beloved fellow servant;

    [November 19, 1833] … blessed be brother Sidney also notwithstanding he shall be high and lifted up, yet he shall bow down under the yoke like unto an ass that coucheth beneath his burthen; that learneth his master’s by the stroke of the rod: thus saith the Lord. Yet the Lord will have mercy on him and he shall bring forth much fruit; even as the of the choice grape when her clusters are ripe, before the time of the gleaning of the vintage: and the Lord shall make his heart merry as with sweet wine because of him who putteth forth his hand and lifteth him up <out of> [a] deep mire, and pointeth him out of the way, and guideth his feet when he stumbles; and humbleth him in his pride. Blessed are his generations. Nevertheless, one shall hunt after them as a man hunteth after an ass that hath strayed in the wilderness, & straitway findeth him and bringeth him into the fold. Thus shall the Lord watch over his generation that they may be saved: even so; Amen

Searching for the Holy Order and 23 High Priests Part 1

November 29, 2008

Joseph, Lyman & Harvey See
the Father and the Son

By OneWhoIsWatching

From JST Exodus 34 we learn that as a result of the wickedness and idolatry of the children of Israel Moses breaks the first set of plates that contained the higher law and he was commanded to hew two other tablets containing the lesser law;

And the Lord said unto Moses, Hew thee two other tables of stone, like unto the first, and I will write upon them also, the words of the law, according as they were written at the first on the tables which thou brakest; but it shall not be according to the first, for I will take away the priesthood out of their midst; therefore my holy order, and the ordinances thereof, shall not go before them; for my presence shall not go up in their midst, lest I destroy them.” Exodus 34: 1-2, 14

From this and modern revelation we can surmise that the fulness of the Gospel and the LAW OF ZION sometimes referred to as GOSPEL LAW and the LAW OF CONSECRATION as contained in section 42 of the D&C, was contained in the first set of plates that Moses broke.

We are also informed that it is the Holy Order of the Priesthood according to the Son of God that must administer the LAW of ZION and ESTABLISH ZION.

Section 84 provides additional clarity pertaining to the holy order or highest portion of the Priesthood that was taken out of the midst of the Children of Israel.

Now this Moses plainly taught to the children of Israel in the wilderness, and sought diligently to sanctify his people that they might behold the face of God;

But they hardened their hearts and could not endure his presence; therefore, the Lord in his wrath, for his anger was kindled against them, swore that they should not enter into his rest while in the wilderness, which rest is the fulness of his glory.

Therefore, he took Moses out of their midst, and the Holy Priesthood also;

And the lesser priesthood continued, which priesthood holdeth the key of the ministering of angels and the preparatory gospel;

Which gospel is the gospel of repentance and of baptism, and the remission of sins, and the law of carnal commandments, which the Lord in his wrath caused to continue with the house of Aaron among the children of Israel until john, whom God raised up, being filled with the Holy Ghost from his mother’s womb.”

It is evident that Moses was endeavoring to implement the LAW OF CONSECRATION, sanctify his people and establish ZION just as Enoch and Melchizedek had done among their peoples.

As a result of the rebelliousness of the people, Moses was taken out of their midst along with the Holy Melchizedek Priesthood, the higher law and the ability to establish Zion..

Old Testament Prophets however prophesied that in the latter days, the Highest Priesthood would be restored and Zion would be re-established after becoming “captive” for a period of time;.

Awake, awake; put on thy strength, O Zion; put on thy beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into thee the uncircumcised and the unclean. Shake thyself from the dust; arise, and sit down, O Jerusalem: loose thyself from the bands of thy neck, O captive daughter of Zion.” href=”″>Isa. 52: 1

Providing additional clarity and context the prophet responded to a question about the above verses;

Questions by Elias Higbee: What is meant by the command in Isaiah, 52d chapter, 1st verse, which saith: Put on thy strength, O Zion—and what people had Isaiah reference to?

He had reference to those whom God should call in the last days, who should hold the power of priesthood to bring again Zion, and the redemption of Israel; and to put on her strength is to put on the authority of the priesthood, which she, Zion, has a right to by lineage; also to return to that power which she had lost.” href=”″>D&C 113: 7-8

It appears from ancient and modern scripture that God will send one like Moses to offer the higher law once again and bring again Zion in the end times. He will enable the daughter of Zion who had previously lost the priesthood power to redeem Zion to put on their former strength and complete the final establishment of Zion!

If someone were to ask you to name the most significant penticostal events of spiritual endowment in the history of the Church between 1830 and 1836 what would you say?

Before studying this topic in depth, I would have suggested

However, I would submit to you that there is another event that took place in 1831 that rivals all of the amazing events listed above.

Curiously, it is not covered in lesson manuals nearly as often, or spoken of as frequently by LDS scholars and the details are not as widely known among members of the church.

I am speaking about the restoration of the Highest Priesthood upon the earth in 1831 at the Morley Farm in Kirtland Ohio.

On that occasion, the heavens were opened and people saw the Father and the Son. Additionally, 23 priesthood holders were ordained to the High Priesthood after the Holy order of God according to the voice of God out of the heavens. It appears they were ordained to the same High Priesthood that Melchizedek and Enoch had been ordained to. Even the same priesthood that is required to establish Zion.

As we shall see as this story unfolds, it appears the restoration of this priesthood upon the earth in 1831 was necessary for the establishment of Zion. That is why Section 52 was given the day after this conference, detailing the commission God gave to these High Priests and other Elders to travel to Jackson County and begin the holy order of consecration at the designated place, even the center stake of Zion. Shortly after that, those not commanded to plant themselves in Zion were to also establish the holy order of the law of consecration in Kirtland.

In late spring of 1831 Joseph Smith called a conference in Kirtland, Ohio. At this special conference 23 men were called to the 3rd and highest order of priesthood.

The elders of the church were commanded to assemble for this special conference by commandment from God. The revelation which is known as section 44 promises a spiritual endowment IF the elders are FAITHFUL;

1 Behold, thus saith the Lord unto you my servants, it is expedient in me that the elders of my church should be called together, from the east and from the west, and from the north and from the south, by letter or some other way.
2 And it shall come to pass, that inasmuch as they are faithful, and exercise faith in me, I will pour out my Spirit upon them in the day that they assemble themselves together.
3 And it shall come to pass that they shall go forth into the regions round about, and preach repentance unto the people.
4 And many shall be converted, insomuch that ye shall obtain power to organize yourselves according to the laws of man;
5 That your enemies may not have power over you; that you may be preserved in all things; that you may be enabled to keep my laws; that every bond may be broken wherewith the enemy seeketh to destroy my people.
6 Behold, I say unto you, that ye must visit the poor and the needy and administer to their relief, that they may be kept until all things may be done according to my law which ye have received. Amen.

Regarding the event that took place at the Morley Farm Joseph Smith said, “the authority of the Melchizedek Priesthood was manifested and conferred for the first time upon several of the Elders. It was clearly evident that the Lord gave us power in proportion to the work to be done, and strength according to the race set before us, and grace and help as our needs required.” History of The Church, 1:175-177

Several others including Lyman Wight stated that the Melchizedek priesthood was bestowed for the first in this dispensation at that conference.

Church apologists such as Elder B.H. Roberts and others conclude that the statement made by the prophet and others concerning the bestowal of the “Melchizedek Priesthood for the first time” is not accurate and that it the special conference deals with the restoration of the “office” of high priest for the first time, not the bestowal of the “Melchizedek Priesthood” for the first time. (History of The Church,1:176)

As we review the events pertaining to this special conference in the context of ancient and modern scripture and the words of those involved in it we shall be better prepared to determine if Joseph Smith, Lyman Wight and others were correct in his declaration that the Melchizedek Priesthood was being bestowed for the first time in this dispensation.

This controversial event that took place at the Morley Farm created a lot of indigestion for several leaders of the Church back at that time and, I suspect, based on the lack of interest in this event in contemporary lesson manuals, articles and books by LDS gospel scholars, it continues to create indigestion for some clear up to today.

A few years ago on one of my pilgrimages to Kirtland, while talking to a guide, he confided in me that there was a “secret document” circulating around, in the possession of some of the tour guides that listed who the 23 people were that were called and ordained to the high priesthood on that fateful day.

The list graded each of the 23 as either an “F” for “faithful” or “A” for “Apostate”.

The apostates were then categorized into one of three sub-categories depending, according to the creator of the document, on how much light they had previously received and how far they fell, judging by how much they eventually persecuted Joseph Smith and the Church, and, ultimately, whether they supported Brigham Young during and after the succession crises.

The secrecy of the document intrigued me and I pleaded with him to obtain a copy of it for me which he did.

I didn’t really see the significance of the event back then so I simply cataloged the document for future reference.

Recently, as I have been studying some priesthood issues, it occurred to me how significant that event was and I desired to review the document.

Unfortunately I could not find it so I tried to find out who these 23 men were by googling the topic. To my surprise, I was not able to easily find who these 23 High Priests were on the internet by simply doing key word searches. (and I am not too shabby with key word searches)

I then called the Visitors Center in Kirtland Ohio and asked the tour guides. They were not aware of the document I had previously obtained from their predecessors and did not have any record of who the 23 High Priests were.

They did, however, give me the phone number of the Visitors Center at the Morley Farm. I called there and asked the guide.

He did not know either and he commented how strange it is that such information its not easily found and that the event that took place there at the Morley Farm is not as highly profiled as the visitations of John the Baptist and Peter James and John, the vision Joseph and Sidney had in section 76 or the visitation of Christ and Moses, Elijah and Elias in the Kirtland Temple.

He asked me to send him the names of the 23 High Priests if I ever found out who they were.

Still not wanting to go through the many religious documents that I have collected over the years in search of the missing document, I decided to simply go to the greatest source of information I had pertaining to the early history of the Church in Kirtland Ohio. I dug out my book entitled “Joseph Smiths Kirtland”, a book I highly recommend. This book is one of my prized possessions because it details so many of the incredible Pentecostal events that took place in Kirtland.

It was written by Karl Anderson, a member of the church who, as I recall, was a stake president in the Kirtland area and who has spent much of his life researching the events that took place in Kirtland Ohio. He is affectionately referred to a “Mr. Kirtland” by some members of the church.

To my surprise and utter amazement, the book did not list the 23 High Priests, in fact, it didn’t even detail the events that took place on the occasion in which the ordinations of the first High Priests in this dispensation that took place at the Morley Farm!

Very strange indeed!

Luckily, I eventually found the missing document I had obtained in Kirtland. Since finding it, I have been informed that the names of all the priesthood leaders attending the conference and the names of the 23 men given the High Priesthood are contained in the Far West Record. I was able to get a copy of that and verify that the names in the document that I had been given were accurate.

[Update: the old link is no longer good however I have found the original paper with the names if the 23 High Priests and grading system that I was given in Kirtland. The pdf scan can new be viewed online on the links below. Please remember, I did not create the grading system nor do I agree with it!]







A great resource for this topic is found at this link

In part one and part two of this post I want to summarize from seven credible corroborating historical sources what took place on that remarkable day and also the dynamics that may have been taking place between the strong personalities involved.

Fortunately we have a pretty good record of what transpired from the diaries and journal entries of Levi Hancock, Ezra Booth, Zebedee Coltrin, Philo Dibble, John Whitmer, John Murdock, John Corrill and Lyman Wight.

John Whitmer was the conference clerk.

Admittedly, Ezra Booth and John Corrill had apostatized by the time they wrote their remarks and became skeptics and enemies of Joseph Smith and the Church. Ezra Booth’s remarks are tainted a little bit from his bias which, in my opinion makes his recollection just as important as the others in getting a balanced corroboration of testimony of what took place on that occasion.

In future parts of this series, we will review the role that the third and highest priesthood was to play in implementing the law of consecration and establishing Zion.

I will also detail what we learn about the three different divisions of priesthood from this event and other teachings of the scriptures and the words of Joseph Smith.

I will use this event and a discourse on priesthood given by Joseph Smith as a context in which the concept of priesthood can be viewed and the three different levels of priesthood can be examined.

The results of this summary and the implications of what was taking place at that conference at the Morley Farm may surprise you. It may challenge your current assumptions about the priesthood. Most importantly, we can learn from history what to expect in the prophetic future, when the first laborers of the last kingdom return.

Here is a brief outline of what happened during the first part of at that amazing conference.

According to John Whitmer, a conference was called by Joseph Smith which promised a “blessing” if the Elders were faithful.

June 3, 1831. A general conference was called, and a blessing promised, if the elders were faithful, and humble before him. Therefore the elders assembled from the East, and the West, from the North and the South. And also many members.”

Others remembered the “blessing” that was to be poured out as being referred to as an “endowment“. This is the early and more accurate use of the term endowment in LDS theology;

“… About this time Solomon Came to see me and brought Zebedee Coltrin along he held some metings and wanted I should go to Kirtland with him we started the latter part of May got there by the Last of the month I lerned that on the fourth of June there was to be an indowment of some Elders” Levi Hancock

Others described the promised events as the beginning of the “great and mighty work” and that it would involve the “work of miracles“. (spelling corrections from these accounts have not been made. Many of these good people spell the same way I do!)

As the 4th of June last was appointed for the sessions of the conference, it was ascertained, that that was the time specified, when the great and mighty work was to be commenced, and such was the confidence of some, that knowledge superceded their faith, and they did not hesitate to declare themselves perfectly assured that the work of miracles would commence at the ensuing conference. With such strong assurances, and with the most elevated expectations, the conference assembled at the time appointed. To give, if possible, energy to expectation, Smith, the day before the conference, professing to be filled with the spirit of prophecy, declared, that “not three days should pass away, before some should see their Savior, face to face.” (Ezra Booth)

In his introduction, the Prophet likened the kingdom of God to a grain of a mustard seed and that some would live to see it put forth its branches.

He prophesied that some of those present would become martyrs.

The fourth of June came and we all met in a little string of Buildings under the hill nere Isaac Morleys in Kirtland Geauga County Ohio we all went to a school house on the hill about one fourth of a mile asending nearly all the way it was builded of logs they was filled with slab benches here the elders were seated . the meeting was opened as usual Joseph began to speak he said that the kingdom that Christ spoke of that was like a grain of musterd seed was now before him and some should see it put forth its branches And the angels of heaven would some day come like Birds to its branches just as the Saviour had said and Some of you shall live to see it come with great glory some of you must die for the testimony of this work” (Levi handcock)

Philo dibble testified that in Joseph’s opening remarks he prophesied that there were some in their midst that would see the heavens opened and bear record of the coming of the Son of Man before the conference came to a close.

The Prophet also prophesied that the “Man of Sin” would be revealed during the conference as well.

I saw Joseph Smith the Prophet when he first came to Kirtland, and was with him in the first conference held in that place, which was in a small school house. When he arose in our midst he said that before the conference closed there were those present who should see the heavens open and bear record of the coming of the Son of Man, and that the man of sin should be revealed

Apparently Joseph had prophesied of these events the previous day as well. John Whitmer notes that “Joseph Smith Jr. Prophesied the day Previous that the man of Sin should be revealed”

According to Ezra booth, the Prophet cautioned those in attendance in his preliminary remarks tonot be overcome with surprise”

According to Jared Carter, Joseph Smith, who was not a gifted speaker, became a talented speaker as he became filled with Spirit;

“Before this [i.e., June 6, 1831] was that memorable day when God first gave the fullness of the high priesthood to the elders of the Church of Christ. At the interview, Brother Joseph, notwithstanding he is not naturally talented for a speaker yet he was filled with the power of the Holy Ghost so that he spoke as I never heard man speak for God, by the power of the Holy Ghost spoke in him and marvelous was the display of the power of the spirit among the elders present..” Journal of Jared Carter, typescript copy, LDS Church Archives, Salt Lake City, Utah

John Whitmer noted that;

“The Lord made manifest to Joseph that it was necessary that such of the elders as were considered worthy, should be ordained to the high priesthood.”

Lyman Wight becomes the First High Priest of this Dispensation

Next, Lyman Wight takes the spotlight as the first man in this dispensation to be ordained to the High Priesthood after the order of the Son of God, also referred to as the highest division of the Melchizedek Priesthood.

This of course seems contradictory to those who thought that the “higher” priesthood that Joseph and Oliver had previously received by Peter James and John, which included the calling of Apostles, was the highest division of the Melchizedek Priesthood.

As we will see in later parts of this article, there are three divisions of the priesthood;

1- The “lesser” priesthood (Aaronic or Levitical, named after Aaron)

2- The “Higher” priesthood(Patriarchal named after Abraham & Moses)

3- The “Highest” priesthood (Named after Melchizedek)

Joseph Smith has stated that “all priesthood is Melchizedek”, nevertheless, there was obviously a higher division of priesthood than what Joseph and Oliver had received previously from Peter James and John.

According to section 84, the lesser priesthood after the order of Aaron and the higher priesthood after the order of Abraham and Moses are the two priesthoods necessary to govern the church, dispense the ordinances of salvation and reveal the mystery of Godliness.

Those two priesthoods are bestowed according to lineage and/or according to the “will of man”.

The highest priesthood which is called the Melchizedek Priesthood which was bestowed anciently and at the Morley Farm however, according to the scriptures, is not given based on a man’s lineage nor is it given according to the will of man. Rather, it is given according to the voice of God out of the heavens as we shall see from the following accounts of this amazing event that happened at the Morley Farm.

And it was delivered unto men by the calling of his own voice, according to his own will..” (see href=”″>JST Gen. 14: 25-40 )

Opening events during the Conference at Morley’s Farm-

First let us review the recollection of Ezra Booth who states that Lyman Wight was the first to be ordained to the High Priesthood and to be given the honor of ordaining 16 of the 23 men who would be given the high priesthood, including Joseph and Sidney. It was Joseph’s privilege and responsibility to have it revealed to him from God who should be ordained to the high priesthood;

He then laid his hands on the head of Elder Wight, who had participated largely in the warm feeling of his leader, and ordained him to the High Priesthood. He was set apart for the service of the Indians, and was ordained to the gift of tongues, healing the sick, casting out devils, and discerning spirits and in like manner he ordained several others;

and then called upon Wight to take the floor Wight arose, and presented a pale countenance, a fierce look, with his arms extended, and his hands cramped back, the whole system agitated, and a very unpleasant object to look upon.

He exhibited himself as an instance of the great power of God, and called upon those around him “if you want to see a sign, look at me.” He then stepped upon a bench, and declared with a loud voice, he saw the Savior… It, however, procured Wight the authority to ordain the rest. So said the spirit, and so said Smith. The spirit in Smith selected those to be ordained, and the spirit in Wight ordained them…”.

Here is the recollection of John Witmer regarding the ordination of Lyman Wight

After he had prophecied, he laid his hands upon Lyman Wight (h) (swh) [and ordained him] to the High Priesthood after the holy order of God. And the Spirit [blank] fell upon Lyman and he prophecied concerning the coming of Christ He said that there were some in this congregation that should live until the Savior shoud decend from heaven with a shout, with all the holy angels with him.

He said the coming of the Savior should be like the Sun rising in the east and will cover the whole earth. So will the coming of the Son of man be. Yea, he will appear in his brightness and consume all before him. And the hills will be laid low, and valies be exalted, and the crooked be made straight, and the rough Smooth. And some of my brethren Shall suffer marterdom for the sake of the religion of Jesus Christ and seal the testimony of Jesus with their blood He saw the hevans opened, and the Son of man sitting on the right hand of the Father, Making intercession for his brethren, the Saints He said that God would work a work in these last days that tongue cannot express, and the mind {of} is not capable to conceive.

The glory of the Lord shone around At this conferen[c]e these were ordained to the high priesthood, namely Lyman Wight (h) (swh), Sidney Rigdon, John Murdock, Reynolds Cahoon, Harvey Whitlock, and Hyrum Smith were ordained by Lyman Wight excet S Joseph Smith Jr except Sidney Rigdon. The following [were ordained] by Lyman Wight by commandment. Parley P. Pratt (h), Thomas B. Marsh (h), Isaac Morley, Edward Partridge, Joseph Wakefield, Ezra Thayer, Martin Harris, Ezra Booth who denied the faith, Harvey Whitlock denied the faith, also Joseph Wakefield, Joseph Smith Sr., Joseph Smith Jr., John Whitmer. [In the Far West Record, Sidney Rigdon is ordained by Lyman Wight.

Levi Hancock recalled that Joseph “looked at Lyman Wight and said you shall see the Lord and met him nere the Corner of the house and laid his hands upon him and blessed him with the visions of heaven he then stepped out on the floor and said I now see God, and Jesus Christ at his right hand let them kill me, I should not feel death as I am now”

Zebedee Coltrine stated; “Then Lyman Wight was ordained a High Priest. Joseph told him he should see the heavens opened and after he was ordained he stood on his feet and testified that he could see the heavens open and Jesus standing at the right hand of God.”

Following this conference, the majority of the 23 High Priests would be called upon to travel to Jackson County, preaching the gospel along the way. As Elder Wight traveled on this mission and others he would inform people that “he was a preacher of the gospel after the order of Melchizedek”

It should be noted that we have documentation of at least one other person besides Joseph Smith and Lyman Wight who also testified of having the heavens opened and of seeing the Father and the Son on that occasion.It was Harvey Whitlock. In fact Joseph Smith had specifically promised both Lyman and Harvey that they would see the heavens opened. According to the testimony of Zebedee Coltrin, Harvey was first paralyzed after his ordination but Joseph rebuked the power that siezed him and it left him “and he testified as Lyman had done, that he saw the heavens open, and Jesus standing on the right hand of the Father. This was the beginning in our day of ordinations to the office of high priest.”

This testimony of Joseph, Lyman and Harvey is very significant because the scriptures say that by the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established. At the Morley Farm restoration of the highest priesthood we have the testimony of three people who actually saw the heavens opened and saw the Father and the Son at that time.

In the next part of this article we shall consider the dramatic turn of events at this special conference that took place after Lyman Wight was ordained and bore witness of the Father and Son. After that, the power of the adversary was displayed and the “Man of Sin” was revealed.

To be continued…

[ click here for journal and diary references of the seven witnesses who provided testimonies about the events that took place at the special conference ]

Searching for the Holy Order and 23 High Priests Part 2

The Man of Sin is revealed

July 7, 2009

Categories: Articles by OWIW, Priesthood, Uncategorized . . Author: onewhoiswatching Edit this entry


  1. Comment by Troy on July 7, 2009 2:54 pm

    I am very much looking forward to the rest. This is fascinating! I personally have been thinking about priesthood a lot recently.

  2. Comment by NEPT on July 7, 2009 6:50 pm

    Watcher, pardon my bluntness, but it seems that you contradict yourself when referring to the division of the priesthood described in D&C 84. You state:

    According to section 84, the lesser priesthood after the order of Aaron and the higher priesthood after the order of Abraham and Moses are the two priesthoods necessary to govern the church, dispense the ordinances of salvation and reveal the mystery of Godliness.

    Those two priesthoods are bestowed according to lineage and/or according to the “will of man”.

    While I agree with that assessment–especially given the “line of authority” (or lineage-based conferral) described in the section just prior to the all important verse 25, “Therefore, he took Moses out of their midst, and the Holy Priesthood also;–I don’t understand how you then jump to the proposal you put forth at the very beginning of the essay in which you claim that the priesthood spoken about in section 84 regarding that which was taken from the midst of the children of Israel is nothing but the highest order, aka Melchizedek.

    It seems like it should be one or the other. Or maybe there is a transition from one to the other that I am just missing. Could you help me figure this out?

  3. Comment by onewhoiswatching on July 7, 2009 7:23 pm


    I am not sure I understand your question, or the contradiction you are seeing.

    Hopefully this will make more sense as the priesthood doctrine is developed in later parts of this article. I plan on providing a much more detailed breakdown of the three priesthoods.

    It may be that you are assuming I am saying something about section 84 that I am not

    I would submit that while section 84 does a great job of detailing the first two degrees of priesthood, explaining the lessor and higher priesthoods, it also addresses the highest priesthood as well, although you don’t notice it and separate it out as being distinct from the first two unless you are familiar with what Joseph Smith taught about the three categories of priesthood and are looking for it.

    So just keep watching

  4. Comment by NEPT on July 7, 2009 7:47 pm

    After going back to section 84, I can be a little more specific in my question.

    Verse 6 states that Moses received the Holy Priesthood under the hand of Jethro. I assume that this refers to a patriarchal priesthood (sons of Moses/Abraham; my assumption is also based on the further explanation of the Lord given in verse ). And in verse 25 the Lord says he took Moses and the Holy Priesthood from the midst of Israel. A keyword search would bring “Holy Priesthood” up in both instances here. To me, Holy Priesthood refers to the same aforementioned division.

    I’m guessing that in your response to my question you are implying that verse 22 is a transition between the high and the highest priesthoods, for I believe JS taught that the Melchizedek PH was required to behold the face of God and live, with consequent sanctification. But if that is the case, it is not self-evident to me, since the word “this” in verse 22, regarding a division of the priesthood I assume, appears to reference “this greater priesthood” in verse 19, which would be the lineage-based PH described previously.

    So, while you succeeded in answering my question, it only brought out another! :)

  5. Comment by NEPT on July 7, 2009 7:49 pm

    Oops, I left out the verse number in my post above.

    The parenthetical statement should read:

    (sons of Moses/Abraham; my assumption is also based on the further explanation of the Lord given in verse 31)

  6. Comment by onewhoiswatching on July 7, 2009 8:47 pm


    At the risk of getting a little ahead of myself and the development of the article, I shall dance around your comments the best I can

    My responses in caps-

    “Verse 6 states that Moses received the Holy Priesthood under the hand of Jethro. I assume that this refers to a patriarchal priesthood (sons of Moses/Abraham”

    [Yes that is correct]

    “And in verse 25 the Lord says he took Moses and the Holy Priesthood from the midst of Israel. A keyword search would bring “Holy Priesthood” up in both instances here. To me, Holy Priesthood refers to the same aforementioned division.”

    [Not necessarily. There are places where “holy priesthood” is associated with the Melchizedek Priesthood ie, “Before his day it was called the Holy Priesthood, after the Order of the Son of God. But out of respect or reverence to the name of the Supreme Being, to avoid the too frequent repetition of his name, they, the church, in ancient days, called that priesthood after Melchizedek, or the Melchizedek Priesthood” section 107]

    “I’m guessing that in your response to my question you are implying that verse 22 is a transition between the high and the highest priesthoods, for I believe JS taught that the Melchizedek PH was required to behold the face of God and live, with consequent sanctification. But if that is the case, it is not self-evident to me, since the word “this” in verse 22, regarding a division of the priesthood I assume, appears to reference “this greater priesthood” in verse 19, which would be the lineage-based PH described previously.”

    [No. I was not implying a transition there. The Patriarchal Priesthood named after Moses (which Joseph and Oliver got from Peter James and John and which contains the keys of the Apostleship) has all the keys necessary to administer the fulness of the Gospel and the ordinances thereof.

    That patriarchal priesthood authority and the ordinances thereof have the keys necessary to unlock the heavens and see and converse with God. In fact it was this Patriarchal Priesthood that Joseph used, to unlock the heavens at the Morley Farm and to find out from God who was to be ordained to this High Priesthood.

    If Joseph had already held the High Priesthood, he would not have needed to be ordained to it by Lyman Wight under the infinite and infallible direction of God .]

    There are some other cryptic references in this section that refer to the High Priesthood. i want you to have the joy of looking for them between now and when I return to this topic in a later part of the article.

    I will point one other interesting thing. Later in the section, God refers to the Highest Priesthood which these seven servants had received at the Morley Farm according to the voice of God out of heaven… and he, at this time, during this revelation, “confirms” their previous ordinations as High Priests, according to his voice out of the heavens!]

  7. Comment by onewhoiswatching on July 7, 2009 9:16 pm


    I should have said “highest Priesthood” in the statements I made above to avoid confusion;

    In fact it was this Patriarchal Priesthood that Joseph used, to unlock the heavens at the Morley Farm and to find out from God who was to be ordained to this High[est] Priesthood.

    If Joseph had already held the High[est] Priesthood, he would not have needed to be ordained to it by Lyman Wight under the infinite and infallible direction of God .]

  8. Comment by TruthSeekerToo on July 8, 2009 12:51 pm

    So, if you need the Melc. PH to see the face of God and live where does that leave Joseph and his first vision? This seems very contradictory to me. It has bothered the edges of my brain before but I never really thought about it in depth.

    Plus, isn’t there an account of Joseph and Sidney seeing Christ and the Father during a school of the prophets session in Nauvoo? Did they, or didn’t they have the Melc. PH at that time? I thought it had been lost and I’m far too lazy to look up the account.

  9. Comment by onewhoiswatching on July 8, 2009 2:07 pm


    The use of Melchizedek is very confusing because it means different things to different people.

    all priesthood is Melchizedek” in the sense that all priesthood is an appendage of Melchizedek priesthood.

    I don’t recall saying you needed to have the highest priesthood to see the face of God, although that conference at the Morley Farm may well have been the first time that Lyman saw God.

    We need to keep in mind that there may have been something more substantive, in addition to him seeing God that may have been going on… it may have something to do with what he was prophesying about, or it may have been a sanctifying process he was experiencing in front of everyone or it may have had something to do pertaining to and oath and a covenant that was taking place…

    We may need to look at the things transpiring that are not quite as obvious as other things taking place.

    Here are a couple things to keep in mind regarding you question.

    As I mentioned to NEPT, the second priesthood (”higher, patriarchal priesthood) holds the keys of the apastalic priesthood. It can administrate and dispense all of the saving ordinances of the fulness of the gospel, including the mystery of God.

    That is the priesthood by which Joseph Smith was conducting the conference initially, and receiving revelation on WHO God wanted to ordain to the highest priesthood.

    You can part the heavens and communicate with God with patriarchal priesthood. You don’t need the “highest” priesthood, which is named after Melchizedek to see the face of God.

    Secondly, people like Joseph and Sidney who are the literal seed and the literal Sons of Moses and Aaron, held patriarchal priesthood by lineage. That, plus FAITH is all they needed to see the face of God. No physical ordination was required as demonstrated by the first vision.

    Their physical “ordinations” from John the Baptist and Peter James and John pertained to administration in Gods church and kingdom.

    The following statement in section 84 seems to contradict Joseph Smiths ability to see God in the first vision since he had not recieved the ordinances;

    “And without the ordinances thereof, and the authority of the priesthood, the power of godliness is not manifest unto men in the flesh”

    It may be that according to eternal law, once the church is set up on earth, people must submit to the ordinances thereof and the administering priesthood before they can see the face of God.

    Lastly, JS pointed out that;

    it is one thing to be on the mount & hear the excellent voice &c &c. and another to hear the voice declare to you, you have a part & lot in the kingdom”

    Perhaps that is part of the distinction between the higher and highest priesthoods, one enables us to be on the mount and hear his voice, see converse with him, see his face, etc., the other enables us to eventually have our calling and election made sure.

    In a related statement he said; “It is one thing to see the Kingdom of God, and another thing to enter into it.”

    If I have not completely confused you, please let me know so that I can try again.


  10. Comment by TruthSeekerToo on July 14, 2009 12:52 am

    You have yet to completely confuse me. ;-) I am still not seeing the order of the thing, though. It isn’t resonating with me and I’m not getting any spiritual confirmation.

    I promise I am studying! I just have sooo many questions.

    You said:

    “I don’t recall saying you needed to have the highest priesthood to see the face of God, although that conference at the Morley Farm may well have been the first time that Lyman saw God.”

    You’re right, you didn’t. D&C 84:19-22 seems to say it. Even if it is talking about the middle PH, I don’t see how it is true. Joseph had no priesthood ordinances before the first vision that I am aware of. These verses seem to be saying that the priesthood ordinances are necessary for seeing God.

    “Secondly, people like Joseph and Sidney who are the literal seed and the literal Sons of Moses and Aaron, held patriarchal priesthood by lineage. That, plus FAITH is all they needed to see the face of God. No physical ordination was required as demonstrated by the first vision.”

    I still can’t reconcile this with D&C 84:19-22. It clearly states that the ordinances are needed. What are these ordinances???

    I also have to ask, if this is true, how does a woman see the face of God? Is by her faith and/or through receiving ordinances of the priesthood or something else? How was Mary able to withstand whatever she went through to conceive the Holy Child? Had she received the ordinances by proper authority or was she an inheritor of the priesthood by lineage.

    II have more questions, but I really wonder why I am up at 1:45 in the morning trying to figure this stuff out. LOL

    ACK! I’m so stinkin’ confused!

    When D&C 84 speaks of God taking the Holy PH and Moses out of the midst of the children of Isreal and leaving only the lesser/Aaronic PH what does that mean? They were left with ONLY the Aaronic PH or did they have 2 divisions still. Did Moses ever have the 3rd and highest PH-is that what was taken?

    Oh my goodness. I’ll stop now.

  11. Comment by onewhoiswatching on July 14, 2009 1:56 pm


    Part 5 should address all of these questions and prove to you beyond any reasonable doubt that it is possible for you to be even more confused than you are now.


  12. Comment by weeping on July 14, 2009 2:28 pm

    Great post! I am looking forward to the rest.

    Another thought about joseph seeing God as a young boyperhaps we are defining the terms too strictly.

    Refering to section 88 and the parable in there,

    “Behold, all these are kingdoms, and any man who hath seen any or the least of these hath seen God moving in his majesty and power.”

    As discussed in an earlier blog here, the kingdoms are the planets, the Lords creations.

    BUT, the whole of them and the work they are doing is literally GOD, moving in his majesty and power. We live in the mind of God and this is the order of things. Therefore, he that sees His face and contemplates it, receives the vision of all. All things, past present and future are before him, having ‘plugged-in’ to the mind of God who comprehends all things, at the speed of light, a urim and thummim himself. So, seeing his face and living requires a vision on the level of Nephi, Lehi, Moses, Enoch, Abraham, John etc… Wherein all things are made known.

    so, Josephs first vision where he talked the Lord in the Garden was only a personal visitation. It was not the time, space and mind expanding event that it requires to

    comprehend even God, being quickened in him and by him”

    This HIGHEST order of the priesthood transcends any earthly limitations of church organization, it is the order of the Gods given to man to perform the work of Saviors on mount Zion, as Enoch did so well.

  13. Comment by onewhoiswatching on July 14, 2009 3:08 pm


    Very well said!

    I think there is sufficient evidence in the scriptures and the words of joseph Smith to justify the supposition that the;

    “HIGHEST order of the priesthood transcends any earthly limitations of church organization, it is the order of the Gods given to man to perform the work of Saviors on mount Zion, as Enoch did so well.”

    I believe this is, in part why Lyman Wight had the mindset to go off and organize his own church and kingdom after the martyrdom. Once you have the highest priesthood, you have the power to start your own kingdom.

    In a Zion society, even though the concept of equality is practiced, autonomy is as well. Each high priest that has received their earthly and spiritual inheritance is ready to rule over their own kingdom and preparing themselves to become Gods..

    And yet it is interesting how God continues to utilize the high priests within the church organization within a consecrated order while the process of establishing Zion and performing the work of Saviors on Mt Zion is in process.


  14. Comment by TruthSeekerToo on July 14, 2009 4:25 pm

    Okay Watcher, I’ll try not to pout while you make me wait. Is this to try my patience? I’m not sure if I should be anxious to become more confused, though. LOL

    Weeping-I like much of your post.

    You wrote:

    “This HIGHEST order of the priesthood transcends any earthly limitations of church organization, it is the order of the Gods given to man to perform the work of Saviors on mount Zion, as Enoch did so well.”

    I agree and add my belief that the highest PH would have to transcend ALL earthly limitations including gender. I believe it has to be accessable to each and every one of God’s children.

  15. […] A Forgotten Event in LDS History? Filed under: History, Scripture — mahonri @ 2:31 pm OneWhoIsWatching is “Searching for the Holy Order and 23 High Priests“: […]

  16. Comment by onewhoiswatching on July 16, 2009 9:04 am


    Anarchist- I don’t know if “Mahonri” plans on posting all of the parts of this series, but if he does, it looks like you get the last laugh!

  17. Comment by Derek P. Moore on August 3, 2009 11:37 am

    I tried to provide these quotes on the , onewhoiswatching, but they would rather not have this information about Peter, James, and John, and the keys of the kingdom and the Melchizedek priesthood which they restored…

    Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith

    p. 157: The Priesthood was first given to Adam; he obtained the First Presidency, and held the keys of it from generation to generation. … Then to Noah, who is Gabriel: he stands next in authority to Adam in the Priesthood; he was called of God to this office, and was the father of all living in this day, and to him was given the dominion. These men held keys first on earth, and then in heaven. … Adam delivers up his stewardship to Christ, that which was delivered to him as holding the keys of the universe, but retains his standing as the head of the human family. … The Priesthood is an everlasting principle, and existed with God from eternity, and will to eternity, without beginning of days or end of years. The keys have to be brought from heaven whenever the Gospel is sent. When they are revealed from heaven, it is by Adam’s authority.

    p. 158: The Priesthood is everlasting. The Savior, Moses, and Elias, gave the keys to Peter, James and John, on the mount, when they were transfigured before him. The Priesthood is everlasting—without beginning of days or end of years; without father, mother, etc. … How have we come at the Priesthood in the last days? It came down, down, in regular succession. Peter, James, and John had it given to them and they gave it to others. Christ is the Great High Priest; Adam next.

    p. 237: Wednesday, 4.—I spent the day in the upper part of the store, that is in my private office in council… In this council was instituted the ancient order of things for the first time in these last days. … (May 4, 1842.)

    1st Ed. Doctrine & Covenants—Section L.—Sept. 1830

    3. And also with Peter, and James, and John, whom I have sent unto you, by whom I have ordained you and confirmed you to be apostles and especial witnesses of my name, and bear the keys of my ministry: and of the same things which I revealed unto them: unto whom I have committed the keys of my kingdom, and a dispensation of the gospel for the last times; and for the fullness of times, in the which I will gather together in one all things both which are in heaven and which are on earth: and also with all those whom my Father hath given me out of the world…

    Joseph Smith—History

    72. The messenger who visited us on this occasion and conferred this Priesthood upon us, said that his name was John, the same that is called John the Baptist in the New Testament, and that he acted under the direction of Peter, James and John, who held the keys of the Priesthood of Melchizedek, which Priesthood, he said, would in due time be conferred on us, and that I should be called the first Elder of the Church, and he (Oliver Cowdery) the second. It was on the fifteenth day of May, 1829, that we were ordained under the hand of this messenger, and baptized.

    Latter Day Saints’ Messenger and Advocate—Vol. 1, No. 10—Jul. 1835

    When Peter, and James, and John went up into the mount with the Savior, Moses and Elias were there; and the keys of the mysteries of the kingdom were conferred upon them, Peter being at the head.—It is written in the first chapter of the Acts of the Apostles, that after he (Jesus) ascended into heaven, he gave commandments, thro’ the Holy Ghost, unto the apostles whom he had chosen, that is, to Peter, James and John, they forming the first presidency of the church of Christ, after the meridian of time: hence we have a sample of the way and manner which God uses to give the scriptures to man…

    The Latter-day Saints’ Millennial Star—Oct. 1846

    His [J. J. Strang’s] last position is no better than the first, for he admits Joseph holds the keys of the kingdom in this world, and in the world to come. Well, how did brother Joseph get the keys conferred upon him? By Peter, James, and John, because they held them last on earth. Well, if Joseph had the keys conferred upon him by Peter, James, and John, and he (Strang) admits that Joseph holds them in the world to come, I ask how can Strang get the keys, or receive them from any other personage? He cannot, no more than Joseph could from any other than Peter, James, and John, for they held that authority.

  18. Comment by LDS Anarchist on August 3, 2009 12:43 pm


  19. Comment by onewhoiswatching on August 3, 2009 1:42 pm


    Regarding your comments, as i previously mentioned to you on my blog this AM, I don’t recall ever getting those comments. I had invited you to resubmit them.

    I’ll be happy to respond to them later on a post


  20. Comment by NEPT on August 3, 2009 5:02 pm

    Should be rather easy to respond, Watcher. Looks like you can formulate a rebuttal from the material that you’ve already posted in the High Priesthood series. There doesn’t appear to be any new issues.

    As already discussed, all priesthood is Melchizedek; the fact that one has received the highest priesthood doesn’t preclude him from conferring “lesser” (or subordiante) keys. Thus, Peter, having received the power to bind on earth and in heaven, is not rendered incapable of dispensing the keys of the Patriarchal, or apostolic, priesthood.

  21. Comment by NEPT on August 3, 2009 6:38 pm

    Hey Watcher, I suppose a simple rebuttal, but certainly not exhaustive, might include the oft spoken refrain…’all priesthood is Melchizedek’. LOL

    Striking a more serious tone, do you agree, Watcher, that possessing keys of the highest priesthood (being sons of God) does not preclude one from conferring keys of a ‘lesser’ priesthood? In other words, even if we assume that Peter was a High Priest of Melchizedek given that he had conferred upon him power to bind on earth and in heaven, that would not prohibit him from dispensing the apostolic keys of the Patriarchal priesthood. After all….

    .Peter, and James, and John, whom I have sent unto you, by whom I have ordained you and confirmed you to be apostles and especial witnesses of my name, and bear the keys of my ministry….

    And didn’t Joseph say something to the effect that there is a greater priesthood than that of an apostle or prophet? I can’t find the reference right now, maybe you can help me out!

  22. Comment by NEPT on August 3, 2009 6:39 pm

    Sorry, I didn’t realize my former post had been accepted. I thought it got lost in cyberspace!

Searching for the Holy Order and 23 High Priests Part 2

November 29, 2008

The Man of Sin is Revealed

By OneWhoIsWatching

In part one of this article we reviewed corroborating accounts of the calling of Lyman Wight and others to the High Priesthood of Melchizedek and his testimony of the Father and the Son.

He was the first Elder in this dispensation to be given the Holy Priesthood after the order of the Son of God, which has been named after Melchizedek, a great High Priest who established Zion and translated his people.

As we saw from the testimony provided, the spirit in Joseph would reveal who God wanted to ordain and then the spirit within Lyman would ordain that person. Lyman ordained 16 people including Joseph and Sidney. Joseph ordained Lyman and the remaining elders of the 23 who were ordained. Some were called by the voice of the Lord out of heaven and others were chosen by the voice of the Lord out of heaven.

The Man of Sin is Revealed

Shortly after Lyman Wight was filled with the Spirit and had the heavens opened to him, bearing witness of the Father and the Son, the spirit of Satan entered the room and possessed several of the brethren.

Interestingly, according to some of the testimony given, various people at the conference struggled with possession and evil spirits for the next two days!

Joseph put his hands on Harvey Whitlock and Ordained him to the high Priesthood he turned as black as Lyman was white his fingers was set like Claws he went round the Room and showed his hands and tried to speak his eyes was in the shape of Ovil Oes. [Spelling?]

Hyrum Smith said Joseph that is not of God Joseph said do not speak against this I will not believe said Hyrum unless you inquire if God owns it Joseph bowed his head a short time got up and Commanded Satan to leave Harvey laying his hands upon his head at the same time.

At that very instant an Old man said to way two hundread and fourteen pounds sitting in the window turned a complete summersett in the house and came his back across a bench and lay helpless Joseph told Lyman to cast Satan out he did.

The man’s name was Leman Copley formaly a Shaker The evil spirit left him and as quick as lightning Harvey Green fell bound and screamed like a Panther.

Satan was cast out of him but imediately entered so I heared it continued all day and the greater part of the knight“. (Levi Handcock)

Here is the recollection of Ezra Booth;

Another Elder, who had been ordained to the same office as Wight, at the bidding of Smith, stepped upon the floor. Then ensued a scene, of which you can form no adequate conception; and which, I would forbear relating, did not the truth require it.

The Elder moved upon the floor, his legs inclining to a bend; one shoulder elevated above the other, upon which the head seemed disposed to recline, his arms partly extended; his hands partly clenched; his mouth partly open, and contracted in the shape of an italic O;

his eyes assumed a wild ferocious cast, and his whole appearance presented a frightful object to the view of the beholder.— “Speak, Brother Harvey” said Smith. But Harvey intimated by signs, that his power of articulation was in a state of suspense, and that he was unable to speak.

Some conjectured that Harvey was possessed of the devil, but Smith said, “the Lord binds in order to set at liberty.

After different opinions had been given, and there had been much confusion, Smith learnt by the spirit, that Harvey was under a diabolical influence, and that Satan had bound him; and he commanded the unclean spirit to come out of him.

It now became clearly manifest, that “the man of sin was revealed,” for the express purpose that the elders should become acquainted with the devices of Satan; and after that they would possess knowledge sufficient to manage him. This, Smith declared to be a miracle, and his success in this case, encouraged him to work other and different miracles.” (Ezra Booth)

John Whitmer’s recollection is consistent with the others;

While the Lord poured out his spirit upon his servants, the Devil took occation to make known his power. He bound Harvey Whitlock <and John Murdock> > so that he could not speak and others were affected, but the Lord showed to Joseph the Seer the design of this thing, he commanded the devil in the name of Christ and he departed to our joy and comfort

Zebedee Coltrin recalled;

Harvey Whitlock was ordained next with the same promise but after his ordination, when standing on his feet, he seemed paralyzed. His mouth was drawn into the shape of an italic O, and his arm was stretched out as if nailed to a cross. Joseph rebuked the power that had seized him, and it left him”

Philo Dibble recalled;

Then Harvey Whitlock stepped into the middle of the room with his arms crossed, bound by the power of Satan, and his mouth twisted unshapely. Hyrum Smith arose and declared that there was an evil spirit in the room. Joseph said, “Don’t be too hasty,” and Hyrum sat down.

Hyrum rose the second time, saying,

“I know my duty and will do it,” and stepping to Harvey, commanded the evil spirits to leave him, but the spirits did not obey, Joseph then approached Harvey and asked him if he believed in God. Then we saw a change in Harvey

After the evil spirit was cast out of Harvey, he had the heavens opened and he saw the Son standing on the right hand of the Father just as Lyman had done.

The above accounts of this event seem to highlight both the powers of light and darkness that were manifest during the first bestowal of this highest priesthood.

Great miracles and the opening of the heavens and the testimony of Jesus Christ took place.

Conversely, as promised, the “man of sin” was revealed. The power of Satan possessing the bodies of some of the brethren was revealed in great power and those who had been given the priesthood and were faithful, now had power to discern and overcome evil spirits.

The Dynamics of Ego

Statements from leaders of the church in later years would indicate that jealousies and contentions would eventually evolve and manifest themselves as a result of this event. One can only imagine the amount of pressure everyone felt, realizing that those who were “worthy” would receive the endowment of the highest priesthood while everyone else watched.

Additionally, some of the Elders had a hard time accepting the experience as being from God and “some doubting took place“.

John Corrill makes reference of this in his reminiscence of the event;

“… there was a revelation received, requiring the prophet to call the elders together, that they might receive an endowment. This was done, and the meeting took place some time in June.

About fifty elders met, which was about all the elders that then belonged to the church. The meeting was conducted by Smith. Some curious things took place. The same visionary and marvellous spirits spoken of before, got hold of some of the elders;

it threw one from his seat to the floor; it bound another, so that for some time he could not use his limbs nor speak; and some other curious effects were experienced, but, by a mighty exertion, in the name of the Lord, it was exposed and shown to be from an evil source.

The Melchizedek priesthood was then for the first time introduced, and conferred on several of the elders. In this chiefly consisted the endowment—it being a new order—and bestowed authority.

However, some doubting took place among the elders, and considerable conversation was held on the subject. The elders not fairly understanding the nature of the endowments, it took some time to reconcile all their feelings.”

Doubts about the High Priesthood

Some characterized this holy event as not being of God, claiming that the New Testament and Book of Mormon Churches never had High Priests in them.

Oliver Cowdery and his brother in law David Whitmer became very jealous of Sidney Rigdon when he joined the Church and became so influential. They felt he had undue influence over Joseph Smith and that he was the instigator of this event.

Below are the remarks of David Whitmer after he left the church. He is among those who eventually rejected the introduction of the Highest Priesthood;

The next grievous error which crept into the church was in ordaining high priests in June, 1831. This error was introduced at the instigation of Sydney Rigdon. The office of high priests was never spoken of, a revelation would always come just as they desired it. Rigdon finally persuaded Brother Joseph and never thought of being established in the church until Rigdon came in.

Remember that we had been preaching from August 1829, until June, 1831—almost two years—and had baptized about 2,000 members into the Church of Christ, and had not one high priest. During 1829, several times we were told by Brother Joseph that an elder was the highest office in the church….

In Kirkland, Ohio, in 1831, Rigdon would expound the Old Testament scriptures of the Bible and Book of Mormon (in his way) to Joseph, concerning the priesthood, high priests, etc., and would persuade Brother Joseph to inquire of the Lord about this doctrine, and of course to believe that the high priests which had such great power in ancient times, should be in the Church of Christ to-day. He had Brother Joseph inquire of the Lord about it, and they received an answer according to their erring desires..

High Priests were only in the church before Christ; and to have this office in the “Church of Christ” is not according to the teachings of Christ in either of the sacred books: Christ himself is our great and last High Priest.

Brethren—I will tell you one thing which alone should settle this matter in your minds; it is this: you cannot find in the New Testament part of the Bible or Book of Mormon where one single high priest was ever in the Church of Christ. It is a grievous sin to have such an office in the church. As well might you add to the teachings of Christ—circumcision—offering up the sacrifice of animals—or break the ordinances of Christ in any other way by going back to the old law of Moses..

In Kirtland, Ohio, in June, 1831,… the first High Priests were ordained…. When they were ordained, right there at the time, the devil caught and bound Harvey Whitlock so he could not speak, his face twisted into demon-like shape. Also John Murdock and others were caught by the devil in a similar manner. Now brethren, do you not see that the displeasure of the Lord was upon their proceedings, in ordaining High Priests? Of course it was” (An address to All Believers in Christ)

Whitmer brings up a great point about no High Priests being present in the New Testament Church. However what he didn’t grasp is that Joseph Smith was not just restoring the New Testament Church of Christ.

He was restoring many of the Old Testament priesthood gifts and preparing the Saints to establish Zion, just as it had been prophesied in the book of Mormon. He was doing just as the High Priest Enoch did with his people, just as the High Priest Melchizedek did with his people, just as the High Priest Jesus Christ did with the Nephites.

In order for the Church of Christ to establish Zion, the office of high Priest needed to be restored.

Brigham Young, like David Whitmer is another that struggled with the concept of a third and “highest” priesthood.

He had been comfortable with the first two priesthoods that had been restored in 1829. He was in a dubious position 3 ½ years after the martyrdom when he and the twelve created a first Presidency, having himself never been ordained a High Priest!

Undoubtedly, he was under intense pressure to explain how he could claim to be president over the Church and the High Priesthood when in fact, he had never been ordained a high priest.

He made the following statement;

“Now will it cause some of you to marvel that I was not ordained a High Priest before I was ordained an apostle? It was William McLellin who told Joseph that I and Heber were not ordained High Priests, and wanted to know if it should not be done.

Said Joseph, “Will you insult the priesthood? Is that all the knowledge you have of the office of an Apostle? Do you not know that the man who receives the apostleship receives all the keys that ever were, or that can be conferred upon mortal man?

When a man is ordained to be an Apostle, his Priesthood is without beginning of days, or end of life, like the Priesthood of Melchizedek; for it was his Priesthood that was spoken of in this language, and not the man. Ref Here

Brigham Young’s reminiscence that Joseph smith made the above remark and the claim that the Apostleship holds all the keys that ever were, is not consistent with the events that transpired in the history of the church or the teachings of Joseph Smith, or the scriptures.

Of course, it was not Joseph’s perogative to give the highest priesthood to Brigham or any other man. That priesthood is not given on the basis of lineage or according to “the will of man”. God alone determines who he wants to give that priesthood to.

Brigham makes it sound like an amazing thing that he could be ordained an apostle first, and therefore have no need to be ordained a high priest, priesthood, however, the simple fact of the matter is the Joseph Smith was an apostle in 1829 BEFORE the highest priesthood was conferred in 1831, yet God still saw a need to call Joseph Smith to be ordained a high priest, proving that there is more priesthood authority than that of the apostleship.

Joseph Smith made it clear that the office of High Priest indeed held a greater priesthood than that of a prophet or Apostle;

That of Melchizedek who had still greater power even power of an endless life of which was our Lord Jesus Christ which also Abraham obtained by the offering of his son Isaac which was not the power of a Prophet nor apostle nor patriarch only, but of King & Priest to God to open the windows of heaven and pour out the peace & Law of endless Life to man &No man can attain to the Joint heirship with Jesus Christ with out being administered to by one having the same power and authority of Melchizedek.” Words of Joseph Smith 245

Clearly, what Brigham Young taught about the priesthood was not accurate or congruent with what the Prophet Joseph Smith had revealed. Although the Apostolic Priesthood holds all the keys necessary to govern the Church and dispense the ordinances of salvation, it is not as great as the priesthood that Melchizedek held.

This event that took place at the first conference held in Kirtland Ohio was very disruptive. Not only did it demonstrate the literal power of the the man of sin, it challenged the existing doctrine of the priesthood.

Additionally, one can only imagine the dynamics that took place between so many strong personalities and the egos involved in experiencing this amazing event.

Keep in mind that the promise had been made that those who were worthy would be given the high priesthood.

What kind of pressure would that put on those attending?

How would you feel if you were one of the ones attending that got passed over for the endowment of High Priesthood? Would that mean that you were not worthy?

What if you were one of the ones that became possessed? Does that mean you are less righteous than others? Or was that experience an endowment in and of itself that gifts a person with discernment?

Lots of questions come to mind as one reviews the listing of those who are present and who were called to the High Priesthood and what transpired that day.

Why does this event create indigestion for many LDS scholars, authors and members?

One possible reason is that it contradicts our current two levels of priesthood belief system that has been perpetuated in the Church down to this very day.

David Whitmer brings up a very important point when he said; “During 1829, several times we were told by Brother Joseph that an elder was the highest priesthood office in the church..

That statement was true at the time Joseph made it prior to the restoration of the Highest Priesthood at the Morley Farm. Things changed when the highest priesthood was restored. Yet even today it is taught in the Church that the Apostolic Priesthood is the greatest priesthood there is.

Another possible reason that the restoration of the highest priesthood causes indigestion is that several of the elders ordained to the High Priesthood almost immediately rejected the fulness of the gospel and the priesthood they had been given, and became critics of Joseph Smith and the Church. Others fell away later.

That is disturbing.

Yet, as we are told in the Book of Mormon, there must be opposition in all things.

The falling away of some who were called to the high priesthood gives greater insight into the Lords declaration that some were called and some were chosen.

Lyman Wight, however, had the heavens opened to him, testifies of God the Father and his Son and then spends the remainder of Joseph Smiths ministry as one of Joseph’s most loyal associates and passionate witnesses of Christ and the LDS restoration movement. With that resume, he then rejects Brigham Young’s leadership.

It is surprising that he was not considered an obvious candidate to lead the church during the succession crisis.

The fact that Lyman had been ordained to the Highest Priesthood and had seen the Father and the Son, while Brigham had not been so privileged seemed to be lost upon the majority of the Saints at the time of the succession issue. It did however, apparently seem significant to Lyman, who seems to have had very little regard for Brigham.

That reason alone would cause some to want to downplay the significance of this event and the role that Lyman Wight played in the work of the Lord up to the time of the Martyrdom.

But there are other issues pertaining to the restoration of the office of the High Priest that are curious as well.

What about high profile Elders who played such an important role in very early stages of the restoration such as William Smith, Levi Hancock, Orson Pratt, Zebedee Coltrin and Newel Knight that were present but passed over for the Highest Priesthood?

What about Zebedee Coltrin, who would eventually see God and Christ while attending the school of the prophets, why was he passed over? Was he later born of due time like Paul? BTW, the school of the prophets was not introduced until AFTER the HIGH PRIESTHOOD was introduced! Indeed these men were the designated prophets for which the school was instituted.

Apparently, Oliver Cowdery, one of the three witnesses and co-presidents of the Church, was not even present at this meeting, how odd it that? (was he to be the 24th High Priest to complete the quorum?)

How is it possible that word went out about this meeting enabling elders from the east, south, north and west to gather, yet Oliver could not be there?

Although the Far West Record records David Whitmer as being present, he apparently denies having been present in one of his later writings. Is his name in the Far West Record just a mistake made by some of the clerks, including his own brother who was the conference historian? If so, it is very strange that his name is listed in the Far West Record and stranger still that he is called as one of the Elders who is to travel to Missouri in section 52, the day after the conference is completed.

Curiously, Martin Harris, another of the three witnesses, who the Lord had previously referred to as a “wicked man” in one of the revelations, is the only one of the three witnesses that was ordained a High Priest on that occasion!

Of the 23 that were ordained High Priests, all had previously been ordained Elders except for Martin Harris who had been ordained a Priest… this takes on even greater significance when one remembers that his two brethren of the three witnesses of the Book of Mormon, Oliver and David had previously been called by revelation to choose and ordain the 12 apostles.

Was there a reason why Oliver and David should not have the highest priesthood in their stewardship in calling the Twelve Apostles? Since the quorum of the Twelve were going to take the preparatory gospel to the dispersed of Judah, one has to wonder.

How strange that Martin is ordained a High Priest, yet is not invited to participate with Oliver and David who were not High Priests, in choosing the Twelve Apostles!

What about Brigham Young?

Why was he missing when the Highest Priesthood was revealed at the Morley Farm?

It is interesting to note that Brigham Young learned about the Book of Mormon and the restoration of the Church of Christ and the fulness of the gospel in 1830, about the same time that Lyman Wight did. Yet Brigham Young did not participate in this great event at the Morley Farm because it took him two years to think things over before joining the church.

Young was eventually drawn to Mormonism after reading the Book of Mormon shortly after its publication in 1830. Samuel Smith, brother to the Prophet Joseph, tracted through the area where the Young family lived with a knapsack of the newly printed scripture.

Two of these copies made their way into the hands of Brigham’s siblings and began to circulate through the family.

Brigham Young later reminisced his lengthy conversion process;

When the [B]ook of Mormon was first printed, it came to my hands in two or three weeks afterwards. Did I believe, on the first intimation of it? . . . ‘Hold on,’ says I. . . . ‘Wait a little while; what is the doctrine of the book, and of the revelations the Lord has given? Let me apply my heart to them. . . . I considered it to be my right to know for myself, as much as any man on earth. I examined the matter studiously for two years before I made up my mind to receive that book. . . . I wished time sufficient to prove all things for myself.” He later recalled: “I was not baptized on hearing the first sermon, nor the second, nor during the first year of my acquaintance with this work.”

Besides studying the Book of Mormon, Brigham wanted to learn the character of those who professed to believe in it. He apparently found it important to judge the messengers as well as the message;

I watched to see whether good common sense was manifest; and if they had that, I wanted them to present it in accordance with the Scriptures. . . . [W]hen I had ripened everything in my mind, I drank it in, and not till then.”

We can only assume that Brigham’s absence at the special conference and God’s unwillingness to have him ordained to the highest priesthood in later years was all part of Gods plan for him.

Perhaps one of the most curious things about this event is the order in which people were called and ordained to the High Priesthood. We know that God is a God of order. The very first man ordained obviously had a very significant position in this newly ordained quorum of High Priests. It seems probably that he would be the president of the quorum.

The fact that Lyman Wight was the first to be ordained to the High Priesthood and the first to have the heavens parted and to testify of seeing the Father and the Son after his ordination, instead of Joseph Smith, Oliver Cowdery or Sidney Rigdon is very, very significant!

Here is Lyman’s reminiscence of the event;

On the 4th of June 1831, a conference was held at Kirtland, <Ohio> represented by all the above mamed [named] branches; Joseph Smith our modern Prophet presided; and here I again saw the visible manifestations of the power of God as plain as could have been on the day of pentecost and here for the first time I saw the Melchisedec priesthood introduced into the church of Jesus Christ as anciently; whereunto I was ordained under the hands of Joseph Smith, and I then ordainded Joseph and Sidney and sixteen others such as he chose unto the same priesthood. The spirit of God was made manifest to the heeling of the sick, cast<ing> out devils, speaking in unknown tongues, discerning of spirits, and prophesying with mighty power, After the two days the conference broke up receiving the revelation which appointed 28 elders their Mission to Missouri

Lyman Wight is one of the best kept secrets of the restoration movement.

Few members of the Church have any comprehension of who he was and the sacrifices he made for the kingdom.

If you have not taken the time to familiarize yourself this amazing disciple of Christ who became known as the “Wild Ram of the Mountains” and who was given the cryptic title and military/priesthood title of “baneemy” in one of the revelations, please click here. He is among the first laborers of the last kingdom that will be returning soon. I strongly suggest you get to know him.

He probably expended more energy in trying to live the law of consecration for the duration of his life than any other personality in the movement. In a revelation given after his ordination as a high Priest the Lord said;

And again, I say unto you that it is my will that my servant Lyman Wight should continue in preaching for Zion, in the spirit of meekness, confessing me before the world; and I will bear him up as on eagles’ wings; and he shall beget glory and honor to himself and unto my name.” Doctrine and Covenants 84: 21-26)

This revelation reminds us that the high priests were called to “preach for Zion”

If there is one major theme interwoven throughout Wight’s life-long ministry, it was his continual personal attempt to live consecration and facilitate others to do it.

He was passionate about living it and was quite critical of other leaders growing out of the succession debate such as Strang, Thompson and Young for their inability to personally live consecration, as well as their acquisition of wealth which he felt was extracted from their followers.

One writer made the following observation about Wight;

There is one significant thing about Lyman Wight’s community efforts, which deserves attention because of its extreme rarity in Utopian experiments. Wight, as acknowledged leader, never desired or sought temporal or spiritual advantage over his fellows.

When he received letters from Strang, “King James I, president of the church”; from Brigham Young, telling of ecclesiastical honors acquired since the death of Joseph, and Thompson with his many titles, he was wont to sign his answer with profound sarcasm, “Lyman Wight, and nothing else.”

In scathing denunciation of those who he thought were acquiring wealth at the expense of their brethren, he wrote of the Melchisedec priesthood:

‘But those who aspire after this priesthood, and seek to obtain it while rolling in luxuries, and seeking the applause of men, I would simply ask them these questions, Have you drunk of the cup whereof Christ drank, and have you been baptized with the baptism wherewith he was baptized?

Have you followed the commandment that he gave to the young man and sold all that thou hadst, and give it to the poor?

Have you sold the last coat you had, and traveled in your shirt sleeves sooner than you would see the poor left to the ravages of a ruthless mob?

Have you traveled on foot hundreds and hundreds of miles and sought a place for the Saints to camp at, night after night, that they might seclude themselves from the hands of wicked and evil designing men, and then roll yourself in a blanket, and lay yourself in an open prairie, under the open canopy of heaven, in the cold night dews?

If you have not done all these, you have not yet fulfilled the saying of the Saviour where he says, If you would be greatest you must first become the least and servant of all….I again ask, when did the church flourish?

When the Nephites that dwelt upon this land did not call “aught they possessed their own; but it all belonged to the Lord.”

When did the people mourn and lament, and howl and weep?

I answer, when their priests were lifted up in the pride of their hearts, to the wearing of fine apparel and oppressing the poor and the hireling in his wages, riding in fine carriages, with cushioned seats, bristled carpets, leaving the poor to work out their own salvation among those who are their vital enemies; while the rich and opulent were permitted to increase in opulence by tithing and wringing from the hands of the peasant his hard-earnings.”

Lyman Wight was one of the few personalities that  practiced what he preached… and one of the few that other leaders with strong personalities could not intimidate or control. His boss was a Jewish Carpenter!

The timing of the special conference at the Morley Farm is very significant. We must remember that it was the first conference of the church in Kirtland. The church was in its infancy and had just migrated to Kirtland as a result of the Lord’s admonition to gather there so that he could give them the law of consecration and an endowment which would enable them to escape the power of the enemy;

And that ye might escape the power of the enemy, and be gathered unto me a righteous people, without spot and blameless— Wherefore, for this cause I gave unto you the commandment that ye should go to the Ohio; and there I will give unto you my law; and there you shall be endowed with power from on high

It is amazing to realize that today the Saints are in a scattered condition among the gentiles and are now at the mercy of secret combinations because we failed back then to live consecration and enjoy the protective priesthood hedge that was being offered.

The LAW of consecration was given to the Saints shortly after they arrived in Kirtland on January 2nd 1831. This law is what will enable the Saints to establish Zion once they are endowed again with the highest priesthood. That is why it is called the law of the celestial kingdom and it is the law upon which Zion is built;

And Zion cannot be built up unless it is by the principles of the law of the celestial kingdom; otherwise I cannot receive her unto myself.” D&C 105: 5, 32, 34

Now, in this first conference of the Church held just two months after the law of the Gospel was given, the Lord was restoring the priesthood that Enoch and Melchizedek held. Why? So that the Saints could be gathered, sanctified and establish Zion just as the people of Enoch and Melchizedek did.

Having detailed what happened at the special conference having to do with the restoration of the Highest Priesthood and the revealing of the “man of sin“, we need to review the content in sections 52 through 65 now that we have the proper context for these revelations.

Amazingly, section 52 which is given the day after the conference ended, and was specifically addressing the conference attendees, begins by saying;

Behold, thus saith the Lord unto the elders whom he hath called and chosen in these last days, by the voice of his spirit- saying: I, the Lord, will make known unto you what I will that ye shall do from this time until the next conference, which shall be held in Missouri, upon the land which I will consecrate unto my people, which are a remnant of Jacob, and those who are heirs according to the covenant

How many times have you read section 52 without realizing that those elders who had just been called and chosen were the 23 High Priests that had just receive the Melchizedek Priesthood?

Context is critical. Read this section now with the information you have just read about this amazing conference at the Morley Farm and it will become much more meaningfully to you!

In part three we will briefly review sections 52-65 in the context of what had just happened at that conference.

Following that, we will address the seriousness of the failure on the part of the Saints to successfully consecrate and establish Zion.

We, Latter day Saints, have been lulled into a sleepy state of believing that our inability to ultimately live the law of consecration back at that period of time was unfortunate, but not really that big of a deal.

We just assume that things moved forward without any significant consequences. I even had a visitor to one of my blogs postulate that the law of consecration is optional. He opined that one can still repent and be baptized and make it into the celestial kingdom without choosing to live the higher law of consecration.

In part three of this article we are going to have a sobering reality check. We are going to review what God has told the church about the law of consecration. We are going to find out that it is not optional and the consequences upon the church for not living it were immediate and harsh, with long reaching ramifications that continue to affect the posterity of the Saints unto the third and fourth generation.

To be continued…

Searching for the Holy Order and 23 High Priests- Part 3

Melchizedek Priesthood required to Establish Zion

July 9, 2009
Categories: Articles by OWIW, Church History, Priesthood, Uncategorized . . Author: onewhoiswatching Edit this entry


  1. Comment by Troy on July 9, 2009 7:33 pm

    Great continuation. I have to admit that your first post piqued my interest and motivated me to do some personal study on Lyman Wight. I found a great site that has a ton of the info that you wrote on (it was still very nice to hear you put it in your words).

    It was interesting to me to discover how devoted Lyman was to living consecration and also to living so that no man had more than his neighbor.

    Describing his community in Texas Lyman said:

    “When one has enough, all have the same. Our houses are as near alike as they can well be” (they wanted to live consecration so much that they even built their houses the same=))

    I remember reading a blurb on Lyman Wight in the green colored church history manual on my mission and it said that he had apostatized after the death of Joseph. I was glad to get nearer the true story with what you have written and with my own (albeit small) research.

    I was also fascinated to learn that Lyman and his group that traveled to Texas actually built the first temple west of the Mississippi river in Zodiac, Texas.

    On an unrelated note:

    How could someone truly study the gospel and not believe that consecration was a requirement for exaltation? That astounds me. Consecration being optional for entry into the celestial kingdom, now I have heard it all.


  2. Comment by NEPT on July 9, 2009 8:34 pm

    Great post Watcher!

    I was just hoping to clear my head a bit. The “Apostolic Priesthood holds all the keys necessary to govern the Church and dispense the ordinances of salvation.” However, High Priests of Melchizedek are needed to establish a consecrated Zion, which is necessary for entrance into the celestial kingdom. Given these two criteria, it seems that “salvation” and the glory of the celestial kingdom are not equivalent. Now, this is a no-brainer for mainstreamers (salvation < exaltation), but I thought we heretics had broken down those walls. That is, when Nephi claims that if we “do the things which I have told you I have seen that your Lord and your Redeemer should do; for, for this cause have they been shown unto me, that ye might know the gate by which ye should enter. For the gate by which ye should enter is repentance and baptism by water; and then cometh a remission of your sins by fire and by the Holy Ghost. And then are ye in this strait and narrow path which leads to eternal life;”then shouldn’t we believe that these are the true requirements for eternal life?

    Now, let me go on record as stating that I also believe consecration is essential for entrance into the celestial kingdom, for we must live the laws of that kingdom. I’m only trying to reconcile the two aforementioned thoughts. Are we saying that, while the Apostolic Priesthood maintains authority to DISPENSE the ordinances of salvation, it does not have the authority to DELIVER salvation? In this case, salvation = eternal life, which would be dependent on dispensing of the ordinances and deliverance through consecration under the Melchizedek Priesthood. Or are we defining salvation as something less than eternal life, like modern LDS thought? In that case, apostolic authority would be sufficient for deliverance into the terrestrial and telestial kingdoms (aka salvation). Anybody get what I’m attempting to ask?

  3. Comment by onewhoiswatching on July 9, 2009 9:08 pm


    Thank you for doing that research and sharing that statement from Lyman about the houses. That really gives us a glimpse into how detailed and how serious they were about living the principle of consecration and equality.

    I really think he and his group came closer to successfully living in temporal equality than any other LDS splinter groups I am familiar with.

    Brigham kept sending groups of the Saints away from the main body to experiment with it, but few of them had success for very long.

    I have a great quote somewhere by Brigham where he assured the Saints that he would live it as soon as he could find a Bishop that he could trust. LOL

  4. Comment by onewhoiswatching on July 9, 2009 9:41 pm


    You said;

    “Are we saying that, while the Apostolic Priesthood maintains authority to DISPENSE the ordinances of salvation, it does not have the authority to DELIVER salvation?”

    That is an interesting question.

    I love how analytical you are and how deeply you are dissecting the distinction between the patriarchal/apostolic priesthood and the highest priesthood named after Melchizedek.

    It is interesting how some of the scriptures address the concept of “individual salvation” and other focus on “group salvation”.

    When I get to the part in this series where I break things down as far as the three priesthoods, it will be interesting to see what your take on it is.

    I am evolving in my comprehension and views of this most important topic of priesthood.

    I think we need to remember that both of those priesthoods can be bestowed through an ordinance, but the degree of power that comes from it is totally dependant on the righteousness of the candidate.

    I think there is much more power available through the 2nd priesthood than what was normally being exibited during those very trying times in the early history of the Church.

    I currently believe that the apostolic priesthood has the ability to provide us with all of the ordinances of salvation to make it into the celestial kingdom if we are righteous.

    In other words, if one truly has been baptized by the proper authority and been born of fire and the Holy Ghost and has the gift of the holy ghost and is righteous, one can have the “constant companionship” of the holy ghost and make it into the “gate”.

    One could speculate that making it into the gate incorporates the highest priesthood, but regardless, entrance into the gate is the ultimate goal from the eternal perspective.

    We hear the term “constant companionship of the Holy Ghost” frequently in the church but frankly, I don’t think I have ever met anyone who has the constant companionship of the Holy Ghost. I don’t think there is anyone on the earth at this time that has it. Anyone that has it would, by definition be holy, and very probably translated within a matter of a very short time, in my opinion.

    I think we live during a time of “hidden darkness” when we all have the “constant oscillation of the Holy Ghost”, at best. Where we have the promptings of the Spirit come and go as we struggle with the preparatory gospel which constantly reminds us how badly we need a deliverer and the fulness of the Gospel.

    I speculate that there have been periods when the fulness of the gospel was on the earth but Zion was not necessarily required. During those times the apostolic priesthood was adequate in dispensing everything necessary for salvation.

    Having said all of that, I am still trying to unlearn what I have been taught all of my life by well meaning people so that I can open my spiritual eyes to this amazing endowments that will be returning to the earth in the near future.


  5. Comment by TruthSeekerToo on July 10, 2009 8:19 pm

    That is some crazy *ahem* stuff goin’ on at that conference! I seriously understand why people would doubt or have issues with it. Wow.
    I would really like to know if they partook of the sacrament before the spiritual manifestations occured. Is that recorded in any of the journals or documents?

    I find this all confusing and look forward to the next article.

  6. Comment by onewhoiswatching on July 10, 2009 10:02 pm


    The conference lasted several days so I wouldn’t be surprised if they had the sacrament, however, the journal entries that describe the ordinations and the demonic possessions did not make mention of it.

    I think that as we discuss the revelations that followed and look at the bigger picture of what took place and why, it will make more sense and you will feel more comfortable with it.


  7. Comment by Derek P. Moore on July 14, 2009 11:11 am

    I can’t find the reference right now, but it is either in the Book of Commandments or the 1st Edition D&C. The scripture refers to apostles, I think. Saying that there is an apostle for every hour, and each apostle in his hour, etc. I took it to mean there are to be 24 apostles, as when Christ came to the Nephites and established 12 apostles in the New World, totaling 24 including the 12 apostles he had established in the Old World.

    The Quorum of the Twelve wasn’t established until after all this stuff you’re talking about, right?

    If Joseph Smith was a high priest also, would that make 24?

    Also, I don’t see the distinction you’re trying to make about when exactly the Melchizedek priesthood was established. If the fulness of that priesthood wasn’t established until the bestowal of the office of high priest, then that would be the first time the Melchizedek priesthood was bestowed on Earth in fulness since ancient times, even if they had been given office of elder so as to possess the office of bishoprics in the priesthood of Aaron (for men not descended from Aaron can only hold the post of bishop through their authority and office in the higher priesthood).

    Our own version of D&C refers to a third priesthood that will be expounded upon at a later date, which it refers to a patriarchal priesthood.

    Certain Gentile royal dynasties claim lineal descent from Melchizedek. The Crusades were much about these bloodlines and regaining authority over Jerusalem. I can possess the Melchizedek priesthood by lineal right even if I am not ordained to an office in that priesthood (as a matter of fact, I am only ordained to offices in the Aaronic priesthood).

  8. Comment by onewhoiswatching on July 14, 2009 2:13 pm


    You said;

    “The Quorum of the Twelve wasn’t established until after all this stuff you’re talking about, right?”

    That is correct, the quorum of the 12 that was called in 1835 by Oliver and David had not yet been called, however, section 20 indicates that Joseph already held the apostleship. Oliver and others did as well, before the high priesthood was bestowed at the Morley Farm.

    It is interesting to note that on the day that the quorum of the 12 was called they were warned that the fulness of their apostleship would not be achieved until they saw Christ and were ordained personally by him.

    “If Joseph Smith was a high priest also, would that make 24?”

    Actually, Joseph was included in the 23. Shortly after his return from Independence, Oliver was ordained a high priest by Sidney Rigdon and shortly after that David Whitmer was ordained a high priest by Oliver Cowdery.

    I have not really done a study on everyone that was ordained a high priest after that point in time.

    “Also, I don’t see the distinction you’re trying to make about when exactly the Melchizedek priesthood was established. If the fulness of that priesthood wasn’t established until the bestowal of the office of high priest, then that would be the first time the Melchizedek priesthood was bestowed on Earth in fulness since ancient times, even if they had been given office of elder so as to possess the office of bishoprics in the priesthood of Aaron (for men not descended from Aaron can only hold the post of bishop through their authority and office in the higher priesthood).”

    The distinction I am making is simply that according to the understanding of Joseph, Lyman and others, the fulness of the Melchizedek priesthood was bestowed for the first time in this dispensation at the Morley Farm, not at the time that Joseph and Oliver got the patriarchal priesthood.


    BTW part 3 is located here

  9. Comment by weeping on July 15, 2009 8:41 am

    man, you gotta comment quick to get a word in around here.

    Like troy, I found the lyman wight stuff interesting also, though I have a couple of thoughts.

    Considering that the highest priesthood is not a church called and chosen priesthood, being appointed by the word of God literally and ordained directly so there is no mistake, it is also not an office ‘within’ the church, but without. Succession issues etc would seem irrelevant, as the Apostolic priesthood is all that is necessary to run the church of Christ. Brigham and the 12 later organized hold that priesthood. However, the church of the firstborn which was organized some time later would need these high priests as missionaries for Zion.

  10. Comment by weeping on July 15, 2009 8:43 am

    In that church, consecration and autonomy would hold serve, as kings and priest duly annointed have their own inheritance.


  11. Comment by LDS Anarchist on July 15, 2009 9:29 am

    Watcher, you really gotta stop doing this. Just put up your articles. Don’t worry about taking exposure away from others’ postings. Posts will sink or swim on their own. You do not need to promote others. Capeesh?

  12. Comment by Derek P. Moore on July 15, 2009 11:28 am

    I don’t see any problems with onewhoiswatching’s reply to my comment… Maybe we’re reading his words differently.

    onewhoiswatching: Joseph & Oliver didn’t receive the patriarchal priesthood, they received the office of elder after the order of Melchizedek. As far as I know, it was Joseph’s father Joseph who received some semblance of the patriarchal priesthood and then Hyrum (which priesthood is not yet fully understood, at least not publicly). The Melchizedek priesthood was restored in two phases, first partially to Oliver & Joseph, and second in its fulness at John’s farm.

    I was mistaken in saying our own D&C talks about the 3 priesthoods; it doesn’t. It is the Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith that touches upon the subject, p. 323:

    “The Melchizedek Priesthood holds the right from the eternal God, and not by descent from father and mother; and that priesthood is as eternal as God Himself, having neither beginning of days nor end of life.

    “The 2nd Priesthood is Patriarchal authority. Go to and finish the temple, and God will fill it with power, and you will then receive more knowledge concerning this priesthood.

    “The 3rd is what is called the Levitical Priesthood, consisting of priests to administer in outward ordinances, made without an oath; but the Priesthood of Melchizedek is by an oath and covenant.”

    Here’s how I see it: The Presiding Patriarch as head of the Patriarchal priesthood is to be considered the pater familias who holds the potestas or imperium of the church. The Prophet as head of the Melchizedek priesthood is to be considered the auctoritas or authority of the church.

    In the first days of the church it worked like this: Joseph Smith, Jr., would reveal what the church was to do. Joseph Smith, Sr., would say, “Okay, this is what the church is going to do.” When Senior passed away and Hyrum took his stead, Hyrum played the same role of commanding the church to do as his younger brother revealed they should do.

  13. Comment by Derek P. Moore on July 15, 2009 11:55 am

    Er… I mean:

    The Melchizedek priesthood was restored in two phases, first partially to Oliver & Joseph, and second in its fulness at Isaac’s farm.

  14. Comment by Derek P. Moore on July 15, 2009 11:58 am

    Concerning the two stages in which the High Priesthood was restored, the Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith has this to say, p. 21:

    “The duty of a High Priest is to administer in spiritual and holy things, and to hold communion with God; but not to exercise monarchial government, or to appoint meetings for the Elders without their consent. And again, it is the High Priests’ duty to be better qualified to teach principles and doctrines, than the Elders; for the office of Elder is an appendage to the High Priesthood, and it concentrates and centers in one.”

  15. Comment by LDS Anarchist on July 15, 2009 12:24 pm

    Derek, I was referring to Watcher’s tendency to not put up his articles on this blog because he doesn’t want to take the first position away from another contributor. He put his next installment on another blog so that the split brain post could stay at the top spot. I asked, “Capeesh?” to see if he understood what I was referring to. As you didn’t get what I was saying, he also may have misunderstood my words. Hopefully this new comment has cleared it up.

  16. Comment by onewhoiswatching on July 15, 2009 1:59 pm

    Yes I understood what you were saying Anarchist, and I know it drive you crazy when I do this, however, let me remind you that my nasty habit of putting different parts of the same article on different blogs fits the “anarchy” protocol quite nicely. Additionally, it fits nicely with my mantra that everyone needs to continually be on the alert and be “watching” so as to not miss anything.

  17. Comment by Derek P. Moore on July 15, 2009 2:09 pm

    “Baneemy” appears to be an Old English (beneme) and Irish Gaelic (bainimdh) word meaning “to deprive of”, “to take away from”, “to remove”, or “to cut or strip off”.

    In the first reference to Lyman Wight in the Book of Commandments it reads (54:5-6,12):

    “5 And inasmuch as they are not faithful, they shall be cut off, even as I will, as seemeth me good. 6 And again, verily I say unto you, let my servant Lyman (W.,) and my servant John (C.,) take their journey speedily: 12 And let my servant Lyman beware, for satan desireth to sift him as chaff.”

  18. Comment by LDS Anarchist on July 16, 2009 11:08 am

    Watcher, as you have made an appeal to anarchy, so be it.

  19. Comment by Greg on July 16, 2009 10:59 pm

    Concerning the statement above that “It is surprising that he was not considered an obvious candidate to lead the church during the succession crisis” see Succession in the LDS First Presidency.

  20. Comment by onewhoiswatching on July 17, 2009 8:31 am


    At the risk of summarizing the remaining portions of part 4 and 5 before publishing them….

    Regarding the following statement you referenced in your reply;

    “The polygamy angle is practically a moot point when critiquing the Venn diagram as Joseph did not give the fulness of the priesthood (the inner-most circle in the Venn diagram) to anyone who was opposed to polygamy in theory or practice. In other words, only those who were either practicing polygamists or who at that time (1843-1844) assented to the doctrine were given the fulness of the priesthood by ordinance.”

    I strongly beg to differ.

    Although that statement does in fact reflect the wishful thinking of both the mainstream apologists and the LDS fundamentalists, it has no connection with reality.

    The profound significance of the event at the Morley Farm is apparently not resonating with you.

    That was the fulness of the priesthood that was given.

    In fact, as I recall, Joseph Smith referred to the Melchizedek priesthood that was bestowed that day as the “fulness of the priesthood”.

    That phrase is extremely significant. It only shows up one time in the four standard works. I suggest you do a key word phrase search on that phrase to see what it says… it may surprise you what it brings up and the associated implications of it.

    BTW NONE of the 23 high priests were living polygamy in 1831 when the fullness of the priesthood was restored… nor were they commanded to live it.

    As will be further pointed out and documented in parts 4 or 5 of the article, the fullness of the priesthood that was restored at that conference in 1831 was lost once the Saints failed to accomplish the very purpose for which it was restored.

    I invite you to be patient and wait for the conclusion of the series at which time I will be fascinated to hear any rebuttal you may have.

  21. Comment by Derek P. Moore on July 17, 2009 10:53 am

    All the rebuttal needed is contained within the first seven sections of the 1st Edition of the Doctrine & Covenants. There are six offices in the priesthoods of which we know a great deal, three offices in each of the two priesthoods. The offices of the high priesthood are highpriest, elder, and bishop. The offices of the lesser priesthood are priest, teacher, and deacon. A third priesthood is little understood in this day, and this priesthood is patriarchal. A highpriest after the order of Melchizedek is still bound to the hierarchy of the those who hold the keys on Earth, and he must be set apart, anointed, and ordained by those who have the authority to do so (and those who have the ability to receive his appointment from the parted heavens and the voice of God [that is, by the still small voice of the Holy Ghost]).

    The 3 priesthoods necessarily work in concert, and the only priesthood neglected today is patriarchal, which priesthood gave the Smith family something akin to monarchic power and the authority to part the heavens and to speak on behalf of God.

  22. Comment by Derek P. Moore on July 17, 2009 11:56 am

    Also, there are 3 independent bodies within the high priesthood of Melchizedek that possess the highest authority in the church, to which bodies all highpriests are subject to be obedient: 1st) the quorum of three presidents or highpriests, 2nd) the quorum of twelve apostles or elders, and 3rd) the quorum of seventy highpriests. Other bodies also possess the same authority, but over the stakes organized and over Zion only, and not over all the church: the quorum of the high councils of the stakes and the quorum of the high council of Zion.

    “The order of this priesthood was confirmed to be handed down from father to son, and rightly belongs to the literal descendants of the chosen seed, to whom the promises were made.” — 1st Ed. D&C 3:19

  23. Comment by Derek P. Moore on July 17, 2009 11:59 am

    Oops… Er: 1st Ed. D&C 3:18

  24. Comment by onewhoiswatching on July 17, 2009 1:48 pm

    For those wanting a good foundation to prepare them for parts 4 and 5, read the words of Joseph Smith from his discourse on the priesthood which was building on the foundation provided by Hebrews 7, which is consistent with everything that happened in the history of the church-

    The Patriarchal priesthood is NOT the highest priesthood. It is the second highest priesthood.

  25. Comment by TruthSeekerToo on July 17, 2009 2:43 pm

    Watcher, thanks for the awesome link…..of course I’m even more confused and at the same time enlightened. LOL

  26. Comment by weeping on July 17, 2009 3:08 pm

    Greg has a point. There is more to this than just the calling and choosing that we are witnesses of at the Morley farm. I am in no way “mainstream” yet he has a point. The point though has more to do with temple rites, ordinances and covenants than with conferral of priesthood, though they are rather inseparable. This highest priesthood is meant to transcend even gender, as another comment stated. But, this doesn’t happen till the fulness of the priesthood ordinances are administered, which is done in a temple and not till the last 2 years of Josephs life, finally he had done what he needed and left for a future time.
    In September 1843, in an upper room of Joseph Smith’s new mansion, the ultimate powers and highest ordinances of the Gospel — “even the fulness of the priesthood” (D&C 124:23) — were first administered.

    Also he stated,
    “If a man gets a fullness of the priesthood of God he has to get it in
    the same way that Jesus Christ obtained it, and that was by keeping all
    the commandments and obeying all the ordinances of the house of the Lord.
    Where there is no change of priesthood, there is no change of
    ordinances, says Paul. If God has not changed the ordinances and the
    priesthood, howl, ye sectarians! If he has when and where has He revealed
    it? Have ye turned revelators? Then why deny revelation?” (TPJS)

    And this conferral of the fullness via temple ordinance and anointing was only given to those prepared to live polygamous marriages. He even waited for Emmas and hyrums acquiescence before revealing it.

    So, the ‘Fullness of the Priesthood’ requires eternal union in celestial marriage, as the second anointing is one of the ordinances performed.

    Those who were anointed and received this fullness were part of “quorum”, even the women.

  27. Comment by NEPT on July 17, 2009 7:31 pm

    Allow me to interrupt the back-and-forth for a moment to diverge into a little subtlety I noticed in one of our poster’s comments, which originates from TPJS, p.323, “The MIssion of Elijah” (under “Three Grand Orders”). In the sermon to which Watcher alluded, JS suggested that if the saints were to have finished the Nauvoo temple, God would have filled it with power and they would have received more knowledge concerning the Patriarchal order of the priesthood. Given that most of us here seem to agree that very little is known about this “2nd Priesthood”, that would suggest the Nauvoo temple never was finished, much less, filled with power. Hence the confusion about why subsequent temple dedications failed to meet pentecostal expectations.

  28. Comment by Derek P. Moore on July 17, 2009 8:05 pm

    I’m not trying to say the Patriarchal priesthood is the #1/1st/highest priesthood (there is not highest vs. high, onewhoiswatching). The Patriarchal priesthood is not the high or the lesser, is my point, and it is what onewhoiswatching seems to not get by insisting upon calling the high priesthood the highest priesthood.

    Like the lineal Aaronic high priests have legal right to the presidency of the lesser priesthood and the bishopric thereof, I might speculate that the lineal Patriarchal high priest has legal right to the presidency of the high priesthood (of Melchizedek) and the theocracy thereof, but that does not suggest that the Patriarchal equals the “highest” priesthood. It suggests the Patriarchal priesthood’s role in the “highest” high priesthood, just as the Aaronic priesthood is suggested to have a specific role in the “highest” high priesthood.

    Anyways: The “highest” high priesthood (of Melchizedek) is a lineal priesthood, we have it by right of our Father in the spirit, God, and by right of our father in the flesh, Adam; we have it by right of our eternal race. So Joseph says it is not by father or mother because anyone can attain it regardless of bloodline specifically because we are all of the bloodline (it is everyone, whereas the so-called 2nd & 3rd are not everyone, but they still have right to certain offices in the 1st). So Joseph Smith picked a different semantics to argue the same the point that everybody was born of the Father and descends from Adam, is all.

  29. Comment by Derek P. Moore on July 17, 2009 8:08 pm

    Oops: Like the lineal Aaronic high priests have legal right to the presidency of the lesser priesthood and the bishopric of the highest priesthood

Seven Seals and a Paradisaical Millennium

November 28, 2008

The 8,000 Year Time Line of the Earth
By OneWhoIsWatching

I suppose one of the most stirring passages of scripture that characterizes the spirit of watching is found in the 1st Chapter of the Gospel of John.

There were  two disciples of John the Baptist that were with him on the occasion that John saw Christ and said “Behold the Son of God”.  At that point, these two disciples left John and began following Christ.

Then Jesus turned, and saw them following, and saith unto them, What seek ye? They said unto him, Rabbi, (which is to say, being interpreted, Master,) where dwellest thou?

He saith unto them, Come and see. They came and saw where he dwelt, and abode with him that day: for it was about the tenth hour.

One of the two which heard John speak, and followed him, was Andrew, Simon Peter’s brother.

He first findeth his own brother Simon, and saith unto him, We have found the Messias, which is, being interpreted, the Christ.

And he brought him to Jesus. And when Jesus beheld him, he said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone.”

These passages are exquisite to me every time I think about them. Can one comprehend what Andrew must have been feeling when he finally found the Messiah he had been waiting and watching for?

Can we comprehend how he felt as he was able to share the good news with his brother Peter who had also been watching for the Messiah?

Can we imagine what Peter must have been thinking and feeling when those words penetrated him?

The story line continues;

The day following Jesus would go forth into Galilee, and findeth Philip, and saith unto him, Follow me.

Now Philip was of Bethsaida, the city of Andrew and Peter.

Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.

And Nathanael said unto him, Can there any good thing come out of Nazareth? Philip saith unto him, Come and see.

Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile!

What would it have been like to be Philip or Nathaniel?

Interestingly enough, during the 2nd watch, then Edward Partridge, one who had also been waiting and watching, traveled to meet the Lords Seer, the Lord compared Edward to Nathaniel of old;

And again, I have called my servant Edward Partridge; and I give a commandment, that he should be appointed by the voice of the church, and ordained a bishop unto the church, to leave his merchandise and to spend all his time in the labors of the church; To see to all things as it shall be appointed unto him in my laws in the day that I shall give them. And this because his heart is pure before me, for he is like unto Nathanael of old, in whom there is no guile.” D&C 41: 11

It appears that it was somewhat common knowledge among the Jews that a Messiah was to soon make his appearance. Even the remnants of the other tribes of Israel who were looked down upon by the Jews seemed to understand that it was the appointed time for the Messiah to appear as demonstrated by the Samarian woman at the well, who, when conversing with Christ acknowledged;

I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.” John 4: 25

It is truly amazing that after the 400 years of the heavens being closed since Malachi, that there was a group of believers who had studied the prophecies and were found waiting and watching for the Messiah and his forerunner.

It is not clear how the small group of watchers knew how they stood in time, whether it was mainly from personal revelation, from searching the scriptures, from the signs of the times, from the preaching of John the Baptist…  or a combination of all of the above.

I am reminded however of the words of Daniel who had been searching in the “books” to understand various time lines and where he stood in time;

“In the first year of his reign I Daniel understood by books the number of the years, whereof the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah the prophet, that he would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem.” (Dan 9:2)

The scriptures are filled with time line related prophecies and the continual reminder of the importance for believers in all three watches to understand where they stand in time relative to the prophecies to be fulfilled in the day they live.

Yet most of the Jews were encompassed about in the cares of the world.

Interestingly, although many of the Jews embraced Christ as a prophet initially, they eventually allowed their corrupt and jealous leaders to turn them against Him.

There was only a small remnant that were earnestly waiting and watching in anticipatory zeal along with Andrew, Peter, Philip and Nathaniel. They were actively looking for him, and he was looking for each of them.

I love the scripture that says Jesus went forth to Galilee and “findeth Philip”.

The Savior said; “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me..”

My wife mentioned in a previous blog about how I became obsessed with doing scriptural word searches using infobases and other word crunching software back in the 1980’s, however she did not mention why I became so obsessed.

It all began in about September or October of 1988 when a friend named Eric who I had not seen for a few years, knocked on the door of my new home in Holiday Utah and told me he had a video I needed to see. It was about the “seven seals” and the “prophetic time line of the earth”.

That was a topic I had always had a keen interest in. I dropped everything and viewed it with great interest… little did I know that my life and my priorities were about to change dramatically.

In the video, a “Brother Nelson” (who was a young insurance salesman) was giving a seminar on the time line of the earth. He quoted many of the time line related scriptures found in the Book of Revelation and section 77 of the D&C.

I had previously read several articles about the seven thousand year time line including a 1983 Ensign article and I had been amazed at how incongruent all of the information I had seen had been with the revealed word of God.

The book of Revelation makes it clear that after the first six thousand years are fulfilled, the seventh seal opens and an hour of judgment takes place, following the hour of judgment, the millennium begins. Following the millennium, a little season takes place before the earth is celestialized. Clearly, the entire time line as revealed in the scriptures could not possibly fit into a seven thousand year time period.

The novel thing about the time line theory being promoted in the video by “Brother Nelson” was what I will refer to as the “overlap” theory.

In short, the theory proposed that the sixth seal and the seventh seal overlapped each other and that the seventh seal began before the sixth seal finished.

Eric and I went to the next scheduled time line seminar to hear the time line presentation in person. While watching the video, I had had a strong impression that that the person who had originated the overlap interpretation was actually someone other than Brother Nelson. After attending a live presentation I asked Brother Nelson if he would be kind enough to give me the contact information of the person who had originated the theory and taught him what he was teaching.

My question surprised him because he was teaching the information as if he had discovered the concepts of the theory from the scriptures himself, but with a little further prodding he finally gave me the name and phone number of a “Brother Edmonds” who lived in Mapleton Utah.

Eric and I contacted Brother Edmonds and requested a meeting with him. If my aging memory serves me correctly, we sat spell bound from about 4 PM to about 4 Am in his living room as he shared with us his version of the divine time line of the earth and the associated prophesies of the last days.

We then returned the following day and had another all night session.

Brother Edmonds was an elderly mam who had been a convert to the Church. As I recall, he was part Indian. I would describe him as fascinating, passionate, eccentric and fanatic… all in a good way. He had a very harsh warning for those who had not prepared temporally for the judgments that were about to hit the world.

He had a self contained retreat that could function off the grid. He had developed an apparatus for generating his own electricity and a large barracks filled with food storage, clothing and survival equipment. He was financially independent and was somewhat of an alchemist who had developed a secret process for refining gold.

Brother Edmonds claimed to have been very close personal friends with President Joseph Fielding Smith and other prophets of the Church. He claimed that the divine time line, including the overlap theory which he taught had been taught to him by President Smith.

As Brother Edmonds shared the parable of the goodman of the house who was to be watching lest the thief come and break in, etc., the message penetrated my heart in such a way that changed my life forever. I feel as it I have been sleeping with one eye open ever since!

That  was the experience 21 years ago that got me searching the scriptures in a much deeper way than I have ever searched them before.

Following that experience I purchased some scripture searching software and became obsessed with doing key word, key phrase and key topic searches. There were days I would spend 8- 10 hours at a time following the various search strings I was working on.

Although the topics I began with was that of the divine time line of the earth and end times prophecy, I soon found that every topic I would search would lead me to several other gospel topics and on and on. The more I learned, the more I realized how little I knew! I have now studied enough to realize I know NOTHING! lol

In the weeks following my initial visit with Brother Edmonds I began researching what President Joseph Fielding Smith had written about the divine time line of the earth.

After reading what he said in Doctrines of Salvation, I was shocked to find that President Smith had taught something quite different than what Brother Edmonds was teaching. To my surprise, President Smith did not teach about the overlapping of the sixth and seventh seal and a seven thousand year timeline, in fact, he taught that the divine time line actually consisted of eight thousand years instead of seven thousand years!

We have evidence beyond dispute that Adam was driven out of the Garden of Eden about 6,000 years ago, or perhaps a short time less. It is possible using bible chronology and that given by the Lord in the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and Covenants to figure this almost accurately… Moreover, our Savior came in the meridian of time… This means that it was about half way from the beginning of “time” to the end of “time”. Anyone who desires can figure it for himself that our Lord came about 4,000 years from the time of the fall. The millennium is to come some time following the 2,000 years following to 2,000 years after his coming. then there is to be the millennium for 1,000 years, and following that a “little season” the length of which is not revealed but which may bring “time to its end about 8,000 years from the beginning.” (Page79-81 Volume One Doctrines of Salvation See also the thesis of Arch Bishop Ussher who spent his life studying the time line of the earth from a literal interpretation of the Bible)

President Smith taught, according to my interpretation of his writings and in conjunction with the word searches I have done, that the seven seals mentioned in the book of Revelation did not represent the entire time line of the earth.. it only had reference to the seven thousand year portion of temporal time that the earth is passing through but he revealed that during the seventh seal, the earth would leave temporal time and go into eternity where it would experience a paradisaical millennium. It would leave this telestial order shortly after the seventh seal begins and go into a paradisaical (terrestrial) order. It would be gone from our telestial reckoning of time for the space of a thousand years and then it would return back to temporal time and finish the remainder of the seventh seal in temporal time.

He taught that the paradisaical millennium that takes place in eternity was separate and distinct from each of the seven millenniums that take place in temporal time.

I returned to brother Edmonds and confronted him about the apparent discrepancy between his interpretation of the time line vs the interpretation provided by President Smith in Doctrines of Salvation.

Although it was not my intent to challenge his sincerity or integrity, I fear that is how he perceived the grilling he was getting. His response was not a pleasant one. It resulted in an unpleasant exchange between the two of us…  we parted ways on a rather sour note, never to see each other in this life again.

I must say however that I feel eternally indebted to Brother Edmonds for his passion about prophecy and for instilling in me a desire to know where I stand in time and the importance of having the spirit of watching and waiting.

He has since passed on, but I shall always be grateful that he was the catalyst for a profound and defining experience in my life.

Needless to say, the time line being presented by Brother Nelson and Brother Edmonds created  no small stir among many people back at that time.

There have since been several groups that have created their own variations of that time line, or were inspired to create different theories altogether, some of them have promoted their own time line videos.

At the time that all of this fuss was taking place, there were rumors about the general authority, under whose stewardship Mapleton Utah,  fell, who was Paul H. Dunn, meeting Brother Edmonds and also with Brother Nelson and warning them to tone things down and to not circulate inaccurate information.

Apparently church headquarters was getting lots of calls and letters from members of the church who were beginning to panic about the perilous time they felt we were entering into.

In an effort to sort things out in my own mind on these issues and to see if the church had an official position on the matter, I wrote a letter to Elder Dunn inquiring about the time line doctrine being taught by Brother Edmonds and the discrepancies I had found between his teachings and those written by President Smith. I included a diagram of my own interpretation of the timeline for his review.

I was curious to know what the official position of the Church was on the time line of the Church.

He was kind enough to respond to my inquiry and to provide a copy of a letter he had recently received from brother Nelson.

At the time, I found it disconcerting that Brother Dunn would commend me for coming to the “proper source” on such doctrinal matters while failing to respond to the doctrinal observations and questions I asked.

As a heretic that tends to be somewhat of a non-conformist, I have tried to find discrepancies in the general nine part time line taught by president Smith as I have searched the scriptures. After 21 years, I have yet to find a major discrepancy in it. In my opinion, his general time line interpretation fits perfectly with every time line statement in the scriptures. Below is my interpretation of the time line based on the scriptures and the writings of President Smith.

1-     1st Seal (one thousand years)

2-     2nd Seal (second thousand years)

3-     3rd Seal (third thousand years)

4-     4th Seal (fourth thousand years


5-     5th Seal (fifth thousand years)

6-     6th Seal (sixth thousand years)

7-     Beginning of the 7th Seal (Hour of Judgment/Redemption+ possibly about 41 years although the days will be cut short)

8-     Paradisaical Millennium (“There shall be time no longer” the earth leaves temporal time for the “space of 1,000 years”

9-     Remainder of the 7th Seal (“Little Season” possibly about 959 years)


(click on the graphic to larger picture and additional info)

The above time line which is patterned after the writings of president Smith and many of the time line related prophecies, solves many of the discrepancies found in many of the articles written about the seven seals. Aside from the fact that the time line of the earth revealed in the scriptures cannot possibly fit into a 7,000 year period, another of the glaring discrepancies that most articles pertaining to the seven seals creates, has to do with the term “meridian”.

President Smith taught that the term meridian, as used in this context, means “middle’ and “high point” of time. As you can see from the proposed time line spoken of by President Smith, the coming of Christ did in fact take place in the middle of time;

If the above scenario is anywhere close to being correct, we are very close to the end of the sixth seal… and very close to the events spoken of by Christ that will take place in the last generation of probationary time (which take place before the seventh seal opens)

Of course Joseph Smith and many of the other general authorities from earlier times have been warning the Saints for a long time that we are getting near to the end of the six thousand year period spoken of in the scriptures, but perhaps one of the most disruptive scriptural interpretations derived from the Edmonds time line presentations is found in section 20 of the D&C;

The rise of the Church of Christ in these last days, being one thousand eight hundred and thirty years since the coming of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in the flesh, it being regularly organized and established agreeable to the laws of our country, by the will and commandments of God, in the fourth month, and on the sixth day of the month which is called AprilD&C 20:

The reason this scripture is so disruptive is because in the past, the six thousand year period was spoken of in a vague context, taking for granted that our current calendar is not completely accurate and that we didn’t know the exact date of Christ’s birth, hence we don’t know when the six thousand year period comes to an end and we therefore don’t know exactly where we stand in time.

However a literal rendering of section 20 enables us to identify with pinpoint accuracy when the fall of Adam, the birth of Christ, the atonement of Christ and the end of the sixth seal takes place!

In essence, it tells us where we stand in time!

But can we take those passages in section 20 literally?

In another post I addressed the fascinating history behind section 20 and pointed out that it was actually written by Oliver Cowdery, not Joseph Smith. There is some disputation upon whether or not it should be consider an inspired writing or an actual revelation. In later years historical documents have surfaced that indicate that it was in fact a direct revelation from God.

Apparently President Kimball did take section 20 literally. On Easter Sunday April 6th 1980 he made the following statement;

“My brothers and sisters, today we not only celebrate the Sesquicentennial of the organization of the Church, but also the greatest event in human history since the birth of Christ on this day 1,980 years ago. Today is Easter Sunday” (May 1980 Ensign)

Harold B Lee also apparently agreed with the proposition contained in section 20 verse one;

“This is the annual conference of the Church. April 6, 1973, is a particularly significant date because it commemorates not only the anniversary of the organization of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in this dispensation, but also the anniversary of the birth of the Savior, our Lord and Master, Jesus Christ…” (ref)

When does the Sixth Seal End?

Recently I was asked by a friend, “Why didn’t anything happen on April 6th 2000?”

His question was based on the following assumptions;

1-  1- The Meridian (or Middle) of time is marked by the Birth of Christ

2-   2- The probationary period of mankind is six thousand years

3-   3- Section 20 reveals that our current calendar is correct to within a few months stating that on April 6th 1830, it had been 1830 years since the birth of Christ.

Based on the above assumptions, the end of the sixth seal would have been April 6th 2000. For this reason some people were anticipating that something might happen on that date.

Although I agree with President Smiths nine period chronology of the divine time line and with his definition of “Meridian” meaning middle and high point of time, I disagree with the assumption some people make when they identify the birth of Christ as the “coming of Christ” . I think this is an erroneous application of the term meridian.

Edmonds identified the birth of Christ with the scriptural phrase “coming of Christ”. he felt that the birth of Christ was a prophetic marker pointing to the middle or high point of time.

I am going to suggest that the middle of time and the high point of time was not the birth of Christ, rather it was the Atonement of Christ. (or possibly half way between the birth and atonement of Christ)

Notice the curious scripture found in the Pearl of Great Price;

And it came to pass that Enoch looked; and from Noah, he beheld all the families of the earth; and he cried unto the Lord, saying: When shall the day of the Lord come? When shall the blood of the Righteous be shed, that all they that mourn may be sanctified and have eternal life? And the Lord said: It shall be in the meridian of time, in the days of wickedness and vengeance. And behold, Enoch saw the day of the coming of the Son of Man, even in the flesh; and his soul rejoiced, saying: The Righteous is lifted up, and the Lamb is slain from the foundation of the world; and through faith I am in the bosom of the Father, and behold, Zion is with me.” Moses 7

It appears to me that the meridian of time is being linked with the day of the Lord which is clearly identified by the wickedness of those who shed the sanctifying blood of the righteous Savior. Clearly the emphasis pertaining to the events associated with his coming in the MERIDIAN of time is being placed on the crucifixion and the atonement of Christ, not his birth!

It is understandable that one would think that Christ has delayed the time of the end of probation and his return in glory in the beginning of the seventh seal if one assumes that the meridian of time is based on the birth of Christ. But I would suggest that is a false premise.

IF the following suppositions are true, then the end of the sixth seal would be closer to April 6th 2033 than to April 6th 2000;

·       probationary time does consist of six thousand years

·       section 20 is accurate in validating what the true calendar is

·       the term Meridian does have reference to the middle and high point of the divine     time line

·       the high point of time was in fact the atonement of Christ

Of course we know that the events of the last generation leading up to the end of probationary time, as described by Christ in Matthew 24 must take place sometime during the last biblical generation of the sixth seal.

That would possibly mean that the last 40 year generation of the probationary period before the judgment which takes place in the beginning of the seventh seal, would have possibly begun in 1993 and will possibly end in 2033, or some time sooner since we not that things will be cut short!

Obviously, the events mentioned in Matthew 24 don’t necessarily begin when the generation begins, they simply take place sometime during that generation. Additionally, they are all completed before the entire generation expires for we are told that those days will be shortened;

And except those days should be shortened, there should none of their flesh be saved; but for the elect’s sake, according to the covenant, those days shall be shortened.” JS-M 1: 20

The thought that the last generation might have begun back in 1993 is an awesome thought to ponder.

The thought that we are currently living in the tail end of the six thousand years is really not a far stretch, after all, as pointed out earlier, President Smith declared that we are nearly at the end of the first six thousand years period. Joseph Smith also declared that those living in his day were living close to the end of the six thousand years;

“The world has had a fair trial for six thousand years; the Lord will try the seventh thousand Himself..” TPSJ 5:252

If those living at the time of Joseph Smith were nearing the end of the six thousand year period, then we know that we are even closer to it!

The comments from Joseph smith would indicate that section 20 could be accurate.

Joseph Fielding Smith has since echoed those sentiments with even more specificity;

We have evidence beyond dispute that Adam was driven out of the Garden of Eden about 6,000 years ago, or perhaps a short time less. It is possible for us, by using the Bible chronology and that given by the Lord in the Book of Mormon and Doctrine and Covenants to figure this almost accurately.” Doctrines of Salvation

Ezra Taft Benson also felt we were close to the end of the six thousand year probationary period:

“For nearly six thousand years, God has held you in reserve to make your appearance in the final days before the Second Coming…” (ETB, Spoken to a gathering of youth in Southern California after he became President of the Church)

Ezra Taft Benson also made the following comments to a youth group:

“Youth of Zion, do you realize you are living in the days of the fulfillment of these signs and wonders? You are among those who will see many of these prophecies fulfilled. Just as certain as was the destruction of the temple at Jerusalem and the scattering of the Jews, so shall these words of the Savior be certain to your generation.

We know not the day nor the hour of His coming, but of this you may feel assured: You stand close to the great day of the Lord! In His words of modern revelation, we say to you, “Seek the face of the Lord, always” (D&C 101:38).

Could it really be possible that we are already living during the last generation of probationary time?

1993 was a year to remember for many people, for many reasons.

Just to jog your memory, the most popular show was “60 minutes”, and the academy award for the best picture that year was given to “Schindler’s List”. That year the Nobel Peace prize was awarded to Nelson Mandela .

The most popular fiction that year was “The Bridges of Madison County”  starring Clint Eastwood, written by  Robert James Waller.

The four most popular Nonfiction books that year were written by an eccentric conservative political talk radio host who would gain such popularity that he would affect politics in a huge way, a degenerate sex pervert who would have been jailed for his antics in the previous generation, but with the downward trend in morals has become worshipped and revered by men and women alike, a stand up comedian that would create an award winning sitcom based on nothing, and a disenfranchised Latter day Saint who claimed to have died and seen the after life, creating her own quasi-new age religion mingled with bits and pieces of Mormon Doctrine;
1.”See I Told You” … Rush Limbaugh
2.”Private Parts” … Howard Stern
3.”Seinlanguage” … Jerry Seinfeld
4.”Embraced by the Light” … Betty J. Eddie with Curtis Taylor

Such were the latter day movers and shakers shaping the thoughts of our present generation in 1993. Those were the books being embraced by a depraved nation with darkened minds.

If indeed 1993 was the beginning of the last 40 year generation of probationary time, it is not unreasonable to suspect that a very significant event might have taken place that year as a prophetic marker indicating where we stand in time.

I have listed below, some of the major events that took place that year. There is one of them in particular that I find to be very significant.

How about you?

Do you find anything in the  following list to be a significant prophetic event? Or are you aware of another event that took place in 1993 that is not on the list that might have been significant?

  • The Great Blizzard of 1993 strikes the eastern U.S., bringing record snowfall and other severe weather all the way from Cuba to Québec.
  • The European Union was formally established when the Maastricht Treaty came into force on 1 November 1993
  • The North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) is signed into law by US President Bill Clinton.
  • The World Wide Web is born at CERN.
  • John Paxson’s 3-point shot in Game 6 of the NBA Finals helps the Chicago Bulls, and their third consecutive championship. secure a 99-98 win over the Phoenix Suns.
  • U.S. President Bill Clinton announces his ‘Don’t ask, don’t tell‘ policy regarding gays in the American military.
  • The Mississippi and Missouri Rivers flood large portions of the American Midwest.
  • LDS Apostles offered their sacrifices and oblations in the Kirtland Temple for the first time in over 140 years
  • Waco seige in Texas.
  • First World Trade Center bombing. Terrorists detonate bomb in underground car park.
  • A seven year peace treaty signed between Israel and PLO. .
  • The HAARP Program ( which stands for “High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program” was created. The HAARP Program is jointly managed by the US Air Force and the US Navy. Though the military denies the allegations, scientific evidence shows that HAARP can cause earthquakes (and other devastations). Russia and the U.S. have already signed treaties agreeing not to use the weather as weaponry against each other.

Assuming that 1993 was the beginning of the last forty year generation of probationary time, those who are watching have great cause to be very anticipatory.

We are now over 1/3 the way through the last generation in the sixth seal during which the preparatory event for the Lords Second coming in glory will take place before the final judgments in the beginning of the seventh seal will take place.

While many believing Mormons, Protestants and Catholics are  watching for the judgments to take place in the opening of the seventh seal and the second coming of the Lord in glory, those who understand the three watch doctrine realize that the Marvelous Work and a Wonder must first take place BEFORE the seventh seal can begin.

Our Father Adam and the Seer and the Spokesman and the rest of the first laborers of the last kingdom must first make their appearance to seal up the righteous and the wicked.

During this time the Savior will return to the vineyard in secret. All of this must happen BEFORE the judgments of the seventh seal and the second coming in glory can take place.

The return of the servants and the testimony of the Servants to the world will be followed by the testimony of earthquakes and the voice of thunderings and the voice of lightnings and the voice of tempests and voice of the waves of the sea heaving themselves beyond their bounds. (See section 88)

As we watch in anticipation for the events to take place, the Lord has given many signs of the times for us to be watching for. Additionally there are other keys to help us understand what is to take place in the near future.

Among them, the dates that revelations took place in the D&C can possibly be very helpful.

Understanding the feasts of Israel and the meaning and sequence behind them and how they related to prophecy can be very helpful.

Perhaps another key was given in section 59

On August 7th 1831 the Lord said;

Thou shalt offer a sacrifice unto the Lord thy God in righteousness, even that of a broken heart and a contrite spirit.

And that thou mayest more fully keep thyself unspotted from the world, thou shalt go to the house of prayer and offer up thy sacraments upon my holy day;For verily this is a day appointed unto you to rest from your labors, and to pay thy devotions unto the Most High;

Nevertheless thy vow shall be offered up in righteousness on all days and at all times; But remember that on this, the Lord’s day, thou shalt offer thine oblations and thy sacraments unto the Most High, confessing thy sins unto thy brethren, and before the Lord.

And on this day thou shalt do none other thing, only let thy food be prepared with singleness of heart that thy fasting may be perfect, or, in other words, that thy joy may be full.

Although that revelation was given on a Sunday, verifying that the Lords Sabbath day is indeed on Sunday during this period time, it is interesting to note that it was also given on a NEW MOON!

Hence, the statements from Isaiah and other prophets about the significance of the New Moon are still very applicable. It may be helpful to keep your eyes on the New Moon dates coming up.

This site is very helpful for researching past New Moon dates as well as future ones- Phases of the Moon Calendar

We live in amazing times.

Are you waiting and watching?

Will you be one of the ones that they find, just as the Lord found Philip?

Perhaps you will be one of the first to find them.

Perhaps you, like Andrew, will have the privilege of seeking out your beloved brother or sister and declaring “I have found them! The Servants have returned!”

Perhaps just as Philip found Nathanial, you will find your fellow believers and declare;

I have found those who have been identified in the scriptures as the first laborers of the last kingdom, they have returned just as the Lord God of Israel has promised!”

May 25, 2009
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  1. Comment by Troy on May 26, 2009 1:16 pm

    It is ironic that Paul Dunn said that your “Brother Nelson” was was saying things that “Just (were not) true”.=)

    Pot calling the kettle black?

    I enjoyed your post.

  2. Comment by Troy on May 26, 2009 1:26 pm

    Sure would like to me able to say “I have found them!”… would be amazing.

  3. Comment by truthseeker on May 26, 2009 4:22 pm

    Great post!
    I hope the next one is soon. I will have to watch the playoffs for now.

  4. Comment by pslovealways on May 27, 2009 12:04 am

    Beautifully written onewhoiswatching. Beautifully written…

    Now, you are finally writing.

    Blessings ahead of you…

    Isn’t it one of the most glorious times to be living?

    My favorite part of your post?

    ““Thou shalt offer a sacrifice unto the Lord thy God in righteousness, even that of a broken heart and a contrite spirit.
    And that thou mayest more fully keep thyself unspotted from the world, thou shalt go to the house of prayer and offer up thy sacraments upon my holy day;For verily this is a day appointed unto you to rest from your labors, and to pay thy devotions unto the Most High;
    Nevertheless thy vow shall be offered up in righteousness on all days and at all times; But remember that on this, the Lord’s day, thou shalt offer thine oblations and thy sacraments unto the Most High, confessing thy sins unto thy brethren, and before the Lord.
    And on this day thou shalt do none other thing, only let thy food be prepared with singleness of heart that thy fasting may be perfect, or, in other words, that thy joy may be full.“

    and there are bigger reasons why than you realize…

    It is a part of the last sacrifice that will close the sixth seal.

    little liahona

  5. Comment by truthseeker on May 27, 2009 12:34 pm

    You have been writing very well for a long time:) Because newagers think they are God they can unintentionally be a little degrading… HA

  6. Comment by Troy on May 27, 2009 1:19 pm


    could you please consider not bringing divisiveness to this site. Open criticism seems fine but comments that do no more then insult should be withheld. There is enough anger and unkindness in the world, lets not bring it here too.



  7. Comment by onewhoiswatching on May 27, 2009 1:59 pm

    I got an email from someone asking which future New Moon in August I was alluding to in the article. I did not mean to imply that I was thinking about a specific date nor that it would necessarily be in August.

    The purpose of providing the link to the New Moon Calendar is just for those wanting to do historical research on which days fell on a New Moon in the past as well as viewing future days that will fall on a New Moon.

    I have reworded that portion of the article… Sorry for being a little bit ambiguous on that issue.

  8. Comment by pslovealways on May 27, 2009 7:25 pm

    Thank you sincerely Troy. (Gentle smile) I appreciate a beautiful heart able to speak truth. It such a good thing to see in this world currently.


    love always

    P.S. Do not mistake a heart full of intelligence and confidence for arrogance. As these are the humble traits required to stand up to a world in adversity. lol…

  9. Comment by pslovealways on May 27, 2009 7:39 pm

    Those who are to be prepared for a greater work, are to be further lifted in confidence when their ability rises in earnest progression. Those that cast stones are a sign that we are headed in the right direction. For the adversity comes first, before any full dawn.

    Keep going onewhoiswatching. Your writing is progressing very well!

    sweet dreams all

  10. Comment by truthseeker on May 28, 2009 6:35 am

    Troy and psla
    To make statements like “Your writing is progressing well” and “Now, you are finally writing.” implies that you are in a position of authority on a subject. YOUR NOT. PSLA Let me help you on an appropraite non condisending way to compliment somoene that deserves a little respect for the work they have done;
    Dear OWIW I very much enjoyed your post. I especialy liked the stories and the love and that you didn’t sneak any hard doctorine that disagrees with my current world vew this time.
    Love pslovealways

  11. Comment by onewhoiswatching on May 28, 2009 8:07 am

    Dear Troy, psla (Birdie) and Truthseeker

    I am going to be going on an unusual journey and I am hoping the three of you will join me.

    I will be giving the details of the journey at

    They will not be posted for several days so be patient. I am just giving you a heads up so that you can plan your schedules accordingly. I know you probably have lots of things planned for this summer, and I realize this trip may not work into your busy schedules.

    I am not in a position to be very flexible about the date we leave and the date we return, I will understand if any or all of you are unable or unwilling to join me.

    Please don’t reject this invitation until you hear the details.

    I realize the three of you are probably not very excited about going on a trip with each other, and I don’t blame you, however, please give me the opportunity of providing the details BEFORE you reject my offer.

    Conversely, please don’t accept my offer until you hear the details.

    I wish I could give you more details right now but I can’t.

    Please Keep Watching

  12. Comment by Troy on May 28, 2009 9:08 am

    I am certainly interested OWIW. I look forward to the details.

  13. Comment by pslovealways on May 28, 2009 10:25 am


    Is life for the purpose of progression? And if it is, then how is it possible that during a life of progression a writing could not progress to it’s fullest extent? How is it that one could stop growing while on earth?

    Because I do not praise according to your understanding, does not make the praise condescending. It is your own mind that chooses to see it such a way. Which signals a need for further progression within you…

    Beyond you truthseeker which this thread is not about, one who is watching is beginning to write in a style that could potentially influence millions.

    Now if you would be kind enough to gently remove your hands from the way of adversity, he could continue on.

    Thank you


    Love You!!!

  14. Comment by pslovealways on May 28, 2009 12:22 pm

    I too look greatly forward to the details. :)

    It should be intriguing. I do hope that you will include within your description, the full purpose and intent.

    love always

  15. Comment by pslovealways on May 28, 2009 3:06 pm

    I was going to comment on your post regarding a portion of it and the overlap. Which is true… And I could fully explain…

    However, it really doesn’t matter. And I am truly not here to educate. Rather I have a job to perform on earth away from everyones eyes. It is interesting how the most intelligent beings are treated…

    I won’t be joining you. Responsibilities dictate every day life. That, and with the possibility of such a cruel person to be in my midst… Well, any woman holds the right to refrain from such exposure.

    Truthseeker, you are solely responsible for closing down all gates of communication till the end. Your inability to act accordingly towards the law of love, has created such.
    From this time until the eighth dispensation, will you no longer judge any another. Lest ye be cursed without a voice to speak.

    This is my prayer Father. In the name of Jesus Christ.

    love always

  16. Comment by truthseeker on May 29, 2009 6:12 am

    Spread your Voodoo somewhere else love… You show love only when it is conveinent. You threaten with a power you do not hold. You have no control over me or your own mind. Your prayer contradicts the teachings of our Lord and Saviour and so do my actions. I will work on that…
    I wish you the best and may you recieve the gift of selfawareness one day soon.

    “It is interesting how the most intelligent beings are treated…”

    It is also interesting how the best looking of us are treated as well… LOL barf

  17. Comment by truthseeker on May 29, 2009 6:19 am

    I’m in for the trip. Troy and I can do a ropes course or something. I’m ready for the details. I hope you can help my pettiness and quick trigger.

  18. Comment by onewhoiswatching on May 29, 2009 9:28 am

    It sounds like two out of the three of you are at least willing to listen to the details of my offer.

    I appreciate your willingness to hear me out. Even if you ultimately decide not to join me after hearing the details, it shows great humility and an open and seeking heart to at least hear the details before rejecting the offer.

    I look forward to giving you the details. Please be patient, it will be at least several days before I am able to give the details.

    Keep Watching

  19. Comment by Malachi on May 29, 2009 7:08 pm

    Hi there Watcher I enjoyed your post very much and agree with the 8,000 year and the middle of time being the crucifiction etc.

    I do not disagree with anything you’ve presented, I would only attempt to add to your presentation and give my explanation of the remaining time we have before 2033.

    I personnally believe that we are given a more specific chronology of how the 3rd watch marvelous work will come down. I wish I could quote someone on the internet or some authority general or not but I can’t find anyone that can give me a viable explanation of the part of Revelation that I love to deal with. Please allow me to suggest some things that I see in the Book of Revelation and that I think are corroborated by the D&C.

    I do not believe that the 6th thousand years and the 7th thousand years overlap like
    Bro Edmonds, I believe they are set in stone and the handoff is in 2033. But I do believe that there is an overlapping or a bridging of the 2033 date by the hour of judgment. There is that weird part of the hour of judgment that is called the 1/2 hour of silence that no one seems to have an explantion for. I believe that the opening of the 7th seal is a seperate and distinct term from the 7th thousand year period. I believe that the 7th seal is opened by the Lamb and the 1/2 hour of silence begins in 2012 a little over 20 years before the 7th thousand years begins.

    Allow me to explain that a little.

    Lets go back to Revelation 5. I believe that chapter 5 occurs at the beginning of the marvelous work. There’s a little drama that’s being played out. Where no one can be found who can open this very special book, then out of the blue there’s a Lamb that can open the book and he takes the book from Him who sits on the throne and all of heaven praises and worships the Lamb. The lamb then begins to open the 7 seals which bind the book shut. I believe that when he opens a seal it represents a specific event of the 3rd watch. Many Protestent sites on the web give a somewhat similar explanation of the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse, but have no explanation of the other seals that the lamb opens.

    1st seal = the servant of God on a white horse going forth with power
    2nd seal = the fall of Babylon & peace being taken from the earth
    3rd seal = the setting up of the Kingdom of the Beast
    4th seal = the reign of Satan himself on the earth
    5th seal = a statement of reassurance to the righteous meridian saints

    6th seal is the special one, it’s the only one seemingly that makes sense to everyone. We all know that there will be a great earthquake and that the sun, moon and stars will go crazy and that everyone will hide from Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb. It’s during the opening of this seal that the 144,000 are sealed up. This is a pivital event that is essential to the events of the opening of the 7th seal and the 1/2 hour of silence.

    7th seal = the 1/2 hour of silence which begins during the 6th thousand year period. It’s during the 1/2 hour of silence that the temple in Jackson Co is built and the House of Israel is gathered to it. This is the work of the Father where all Israel will be saved, except for the Jews of course which have a special suffering that they are required to experience.

    Now allow me to refer to two scriptures in the D&C that I believe support these ideas.

    D&C 77 is the question answer section on the Book of Revelation. Verse 12 is the specific verse concering the 7th thousand year and it even skirts the issue of the 1/2 hour of silence. 77:12 asks the question “What are we to understand by the sounding of the trumpets, mentioned in the 8th chapter of Revelation?” The answer is given that “the sounding of the trumpets of the seven angels are the preparing and finishing of his work, in the beginning of the seventh thousand years” The Lord totally ignores the 1/2 hour of silence because I believe it begins in the 6th thousand year. The Lord isn’t overlapping the 6th thousand year and the 7th thousand year he is overlapping the opening of the 7th seal by the Lamb with the 6th thousandth year.

    D&C 112 speaks of the overlapping of the dispsations which I believe is talking about this same relationship. Here we learn that the dispensation of the fulness of times begins during the dispensation of the last days.

    30 For unto you, the Twelve, and those, the First Presidency, who are appointed with you to be your counselors and your leaders, is the power of this priesthood given, for the last days and for the last time, in the which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.

    The dispensation of the last days seems to be the equivalent of the 6th thousand years
    of the times of the gentiles because the apostles spoke about them being in the dispensation of the last days.

    The dispensation of the fulness of times is the restoration of all the dispensations which the opening of the 7 seals also seems to represent, at least to me.

    I hope my thoughts are as clear as mud.

    I found myself wondering what the majority of the comments had to do with the watchers fine blog. Maybe someone could start another blog where bickering is loved and appreciated. Other than a little praise I didn’t see anything specific to the ideas presented in the blog. As for my comments I desire no praise, but an analysis and critique on the ideas would be greatly appreciated.

  20. Comment by NEPT on May 29, 2009 9:03 pm

    Hey OWIW! You coming to NC??!! I could use a pow-wow.

  21. Comment by onewhoiswatching on May 29, 2009 11:04 pm

    Malachi my friend

    Thank you for your comments and for sharing the additional specifics on your interpretation pertaining to the specifics pertaining to the parts of the timeline I pretty much left blank.

    Since I am out of town celebrating Mrs Watchers and my 31sr year of heretical bliss in a condo in the mountains with sporadic opportunity to find wireless access to the internet, I have not studied your response in depth… I know we have discussed this before but I look forward to studying it in greater detail when I can.


  22. Comment by LDS Anarchist on May 31, 2009 4:05 pm

    Watcher, thanks for bringing this topic up. I have always subscribed to Joseph Fielding Smith’s time line views and have often considered the meridian = atonement idea (2033 end), but never actually took the time to research the scriptures to come to any adequate conclusion. This post has caused me to finally do a study and I thank you for that.

    My current understanding is that the “meridian of time” does not refer to the birth of Christ nor to the Atonement of Christ, but to the entire life of Christ, meaning from His birth to His death, or the full 33 years. These 33 years are the halfway point of the 8000 years of Earth’s existence. So, He was born towards the end of the 4th thousand years and He died near the beginning of the 5th thousand years. Which means that the middle point of time would be exactly 16.5 years from his birth, or October 6 of the year 16. Which means that the 5th thousand years ended on October 6, 1016 and that the 6th thousand years will end on October 6, 2016. At which point the 7th seal will open.

    This interpretation seems consistent with both the scriptures and my understanding of the signs of the times that are taking place and “where we are” time-wise according to those signs. I’ve discussed this with what4anarchy and he also seems to think that October 6, 2016 seems about right for the end date of the 6th seal.

    Here are all the scriptures that mention the meridian of time:

    26 Not only those who believed after he came in the meridian of time, in the flesh, but all those from the beginning, even as many as were before he came, who believed in the words of the holy prophets, who spake as they were inspired by the gift of the Holy Ghost, who truly testified of him in all things, should have eternal life, (D&C 20: 26)3 The same which came in the meridian of time unto mine own, and mine own received me not; (D&C 39: 3)

    57 For they would not hearken unto his voice, nor believe on his Only Begotten Son, even him whom he declared should come in the meridian of time, who was prepared from before the foundation of the world. (Moses 5: 57)

    57 Wherefore teach it unto your children, that all men, everywhere, must repent, or they can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God, for no unclean thing can dwell there, or dwell in his presence; for, in the language of Adam, Man of Holiness is his name, and the name of his Only Begotten is the Son of Man, even Jesus Christ, a righteous Judge, who shall come in the meridian of time.
    • • •
    62 And now, behold, I say unto you: This is the plan of salvation unto all men, through the blood of mine Only Begotten, who shall come in the meridian of time. (Moses 6: 57, 62)

    46 And the Lord said: It shall be in the meridian of time, in the days of wickedness and vengeance. (Moses 7: 46)

  23. Comment by Malachi on June 1, 2009 4:51 pm

    That’s interesting Anachrist now we even have another date to watch. Like how did you come to that realization? I see 6 instances of the use of the phrase “meridian of time” I read your explanation of halving the 33 yrs and that’s interesting but it’s a bit of a jump for me at the moment. Is there anyother reason to grab onto this idea?

  24. Comment by onewhoiswatching on June 1, 2009 4:53 pm


    Yes, as I mentioned in my article, in addition to the possibility of the atonement date being the middle point of time, there is a possibility that the middle of time is marked by identifying the middle date between the birth and atonement;

    “I am going to suggest that the middle of time and the high point of time was not the birth of Christ, rather it was the Atonement of Christ. (or possibly half way between the birth and atonement of Christ)”

    I certainly would prefer it to be the mid point between the birth and death of Christ, that way, and it would seem to make more sense in that it doesn’t seem like we need until 2033 for all of the events to happen. (of course we don’t need that much time anyway as we have been told the time will be cut short)

    The scenario you have accepted also makes more sense to me from the stand point that Arch Bishop Ussher would not have been quite so far off in his projected date for the fall of Adam!

    Nevertheless, I guess the two reasons why I still lean toward the atonement date, and not the mid point date between the birth and atonement are as follows;

    1- HIGH POINT; If the contextual term for meridian only means “middle” then the mid point between the birth and meridian would probably make the most sense to me, however, President Smith’s claim that it also means “high point” rings true to me. And, I suspect it means something different to me as well. He seems to be deriving his thoughts from one of websters definitions of meridian which is as follows;

    “The highest point; as the meridian of life; the meridian of power or of glory.”

    I really think the term “meridian of time” is not only the middle point of time but also the “High Point” of Christ’s power and glory.

    It seems to me that the high point of Christs power and glory would have been when he broke the bands of death and atoned for our sins, etc.

    When he prayed the intercessory prayer, just before the crucifixion he prayed these words;

    “Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee..”

    It seems to me that the breaking of the bands of death and the atonement that Christ accomplished during his ministry at the age of 33 is more likely to be considered the high point that anything Christ may have been doing at the age of 16 or 17, long before his formal ministry began.

    2- PROPHETIC MARKER: As I mentioned in the article, it seems to me that the beginning of the last 40 years of probationary time might well be marked for those who are watching with a prophetic marker. I can see several significant events that took place in 1993… and one in particular, that could be of prophetic magnitude. However, I have briefly reviewed the time period that would have been the beginning of the last 40 year period based on the mid point being between the birth date and death date and I don’t see a “stand-out” prophetic event that seems like a prophetic marker.

    Admittedly I have looked that hard. Perhaps I have not looked hard enough, or perhaps there just isn’t a prophetic marker to mark the beginning of the last generation.

    Although there are several reasons why I like the date that you have chosen as the high point of time, I guess I am still 51 % leaning toward the atonement as the high point meridian and 49% leaning toward the date you are postulating.

    To me it is somewhat of a moot point since we both agree that the time for the servants to make there appearance is very soon and we know things will progress pretty quickly from that point on.

    It appears that the Lord will shorten the days contained within this generation. Regardless of whether he only shortens them by a shorter period or a longer period really doesn’t matter that much. What matters is that we recognize the servants when they get here and accept the fulness of the Gospel

    Thank you for sharing your beliefs and predictions. We don’t need to wait long to see what the exact details of the time line are!

  25. Comment by onewhoiswatching on June 1, 2009 5:36 pm

    Dear Brother Malachi

    Thank you so much for sharing your interpretation of the more detailed break down of the timeline of events pertaining to the end of the sixth thousand year period and the beginning of the seventh thousand year period.

    Just to reiterate and clarify, for those who are new to this topic, I am suggesting that the “hour of judgment” which is possibly also referred to as the “hour of redemption” is composed of the “half hour of silence” followed by the remainder of the hour during which the judgments and plagues listed in the Book of Revelation.

    My interpretation is that this hour, which is broken into two parts, is the beginning of the seventh seal.

    If I understand your interpretation, you would agree that the Hour of Judgment is divided into the two parts as mentioned above, however you believe that the first half hour represents the tail end of the sixth seal and the second half hour represents the beginning of the seventh seal.

    Let me begin by saying that if we were voting on which of the two interpretations we want to be correct, I would certainly vote for yours! This is because, in my opinion, if your interpretation is correct, it would require a 3 ½ year period of warning by the servants to begin within the next 30 to 90 days in order for that period of time to be completed prior to 2012!

    The very thought that the servants could be returning that soon is exhilarating and exciting to me… and I am hopeful that they will return that soon even though my interpretation of the placement of the hour of judgment does not require such an early return of the Servants.

    Interestingly, my hopefulness that the return of the servants is soon, is based on other criteria which I have already covered in previous posts.

    Revelation 8:1 Says; “And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.”

    According to the above verse the half hour of judgment does not begin until the seventh seal is opened. It then goes on to clarify that the judgments of God follow after the half hour of judgment.

    How do you reconcile that scripture with you belief that the half hour of silence is in the sixth seal?

  26. Comment by Malachi on June 2, 2009 5:21 am

    I believe there is a difference in the act of the Lamb opening the 7th seal on the book and the 7th thousand year period that begins in 2033 and the Lord is using that similarity in terminology to hid the overlapping of the opeing of the 7th seal by the Lamb into the 6th thousand year period by 20 years.

    I’ll reiterate: I believe that the opening of the 7th seal by the Lamb is not the beginning of the 7th thousand year period but an event of the 6th thousand year period. The opening of the 7 seals by the lamb are events of the 3rd watch / marvelous work. The easiest event to see is the opening of the 6th seal with the great earthquake and the sun, moon and stars going crazy. But the 1/2 hour of silence is also an event. The event begins the dispenation of the fulness of times and the gathering together all things into one. The 1/2 hour of silence is the building up of Zion and gathering the House of Israel.

    I gain strength for this interpretation because of two scriptures.
    In D&C 77:12 which is the Lords explanation of Revelation 8 the Lord points out that at the beginning of the 7th thousand years will be the sounding of the 7 trumps. He says nothing about the 1/2 hour of silence because it is an event he has placed during the end of the 6th thousand thousand year period.

    I believe the 6th thousand years period of time is the dispensation of the last days and the 7th thousand years period of time is the dispensation of the fulness of times which are overlapped using the 1/2 hour of silence. We know this overlapping occurs because of 112:30. The overlapping of the dispensation of the fulness of times is the opening of the 7th seal, which is the 1/2 hour of silence at the end of the 6th thousand year period.

    This of course is my personal interpretation which can only be verified by the passing of a few years or the return of the servants.

  27. Comment by onewhoiswatching on June 2, 2009 8:21 am


    Thank you for clarifying your thinking on that issue. I realize you have explained this to me multiple times in the past but I thought it would be helpful for others to understand what may appear as an “apparent discrepancy” to someone that doesn’t understand your thinking on that issue..


  28. Comment by Younger Dude on June 3, 2009 12:55 am

    I love reading about Nathanael’s first encounter with Jesus. It didn’t take much convincing for him to believe. It makes me laugh when Jesus says “Because I said unto thee, I saw thee under a fig tree, believest thou? Thou shalt see greater things than these.”

    What is the prophetic event in 1993 that you find very significant? Is it the LDS apostles offering their sacrifices and oblations in the Kirtland Temple?

  29. Comment by onewhoiswatching on June 3, 2009 4:42 am

    Younger Dude-



  30. Comment by Bounce Back on June 3, 2009 5:50 am

    In the beginning of this post you said;

    ” I suppose one of the most stirring passages of scripture that characterizes the spirit of watching is found in the 1st Chapter of the Gospel of John.

    He first findeth his own brother Simon, and saith unto him, We have found the Messias, which is, being interpreted, the Christ.

    And he brought him to Jesus”

    I imagine the joy of getting to share the most important information, ever, with anyone. As I read the different posts by you, Watcher, and the responses by others, I feel the love and desire to understand and share the most important thing to all of us…..that of finding Jesus Christ through His Word confirmed by His Spirit.

    Brother Malachi,

    You said

    “I believe there is a difference in the act of the Lamb opening the 7th seal on the book and the 7th thousand year period that begins in 2033″

    When I read your response I remembered in D&C 77:10 that the Lord does not differentiate the use of opening a seal and that same thousand year period.

    Q. What time are the things spoken of in this chapter to be accomplished?
    A. They are to be accomplished in the sixth thousand years, or the opening of the sixth seal.

    From these verses I think it establishes that a thousand year period and the opening of a seal are synonymous.

    I love how we have been able to study with you and Mrs. Malachi over the years and the incredibly sweet experiences in the Word we have enjoyed with you.

  31. Comment by onewhoiswatching on June 3, 2009 7:08 am


    There is actually a third reason why I believe the Meridian of Time may have reference to the time of the Atonement when Christ was given the height of his glory, rather than when he was 16 years old.

    Again, I don’t think this is a terribly huge issue at this point in time since the important thing sor us to be watching and waiting for the return of the servants and to identify the season that they will return, which we seem to be agreed upon, but the reason I want to share this third conjecture is that it demonstrates another possible time line related reason why Joseph Smith might have already returned.

    This of course is total speculation and is really far out there… but hey, speculating on various time lines is what those who are watching do… right?

    Here is a potential scenario from the scriptures;

    Section 77:12 Tells us that the coming of Christ in his glory takes place in the 7th seal after he completes the salvation of man.

    Section 88 gives additional details about this. Among other things, verse 95 reveals that at the end of the half hour of silence, the curtain of heaven is unfolded and the face of the Lord is revealed to the whole world. this is very possibly a description are target date for the season of the second coming in glory.

    If in fact the time of the atonement is the middle-high point of time, then April of 2033 is the approximate time of the ending of the sixth seal (and the end of probation).

    By adding nearly 22 years (half an hour of silence according to Gods reckoning of time) then the year 2055 brings us to the end of the half hour of silence in the seventh seal when the season of the second coming in glory begins. (I am not trying to identify a day and hour)

    Now then, with those potential time line target dates in mind, lets review the revelation Joseph Smith received when he asked about when the coming of Christ in glory would be;

    “I was once praying very earnestly to know the time of the coming of the Son of Man, when I heard a voice repeat the following: Joseph, my son, if thou livest until thou art eighty-five years old, thou shalt see the face of the Son of Man; therefore let this suffice, and trouble me no more on this matter.” D&C 130: 15

    One way to interpret the above revelation is that Joseph Smith needs to be on this earth in the flesh during temporal time for approximately 85 years before the second coming in glory will take place.

    Joseph was born in Dec of 1805 and died in June of 1844. He died at the age of 38. That means that he needs to return and live approximately another 47 years in temporal time before the second coming in glory can take place.

    If we back up 47 years from 2055 it brings us to the year 2008 (which technically ended April 5th 2009) which would indicate that Joseph may have returned already to deliver the proclamation to the governors of all the nations of the world (see section 124) and now he is about to make his appearance to the inhabitants of the world who are being governed.

    I realize this is pretty far fetched… and I am terrible with numbers, having failed just about every math class I have taken, hence, my figures may be off by a decade or two.

  32. Comment by TruthSeekerToo on June 3, 2009 3:22 pm

    Does anyone else think that the second coming of Christ could be both a literal/global event and a personal/spiritual event?

    All the numbers continue to amaze me.

    Do we have any details on the Kirtland Temple event in 1993?

    October 6, 2016. Interesting.
    Now, we have 3.5 years from April 2009 to December 2012. Then, a little more than 3.5 years to October 2016. It doesn’t fit exactly, but very close.

  33. Comment by Malachi on June 4, 2009 5:11 am

    Hi there Bounce back

    Q. What time are the things spoken of in this chapter to be accomplished?
    A. They are to be accomplished in the sixth thousand years, or (equal or not equal that is the question) the opening of the sixth seal.

    I appreciate you pointing that out. My first reaction to that scripture was that the “or” meant equal and in an sense they are equal but then not the same. They are the same in that the opening of the 6th seal does in fact occur within the 6th thousand year period. Therefore the events of Revelation 7 occur in the opeing of the 6th seal or the 6th thousand year period of time. They are not the same in that the opening of the 6th seal is one isolated event and the 6th thousand year period is a long time.

  34. Comment by pslovealways on June 4, 2009 2:23 pm

    Dear people who read this blog and especially one who is watching,

    I would like to deeply apologize for my most recent release of fear and frustration. In person you would not recognize such a fearful person. It is that the past two years I have been dealing with the ex wife of my husband who is a foreign national within our country, here on a green card because of my husbands giving. She has caused a great deal of grief within our life that I have never had to deal with before. In which I haven’t been sure how to handle. And the only way that I have been able to cope is to write out my frustration towards God, as in my life I have never done something so drastic as to deserve such treatment by any other. I have had a hard time understanding why God would allow such a thing to happen to an undeserving person.

    However, I believe the dawn is finally breaking. Hard evidence has been found of her actions. Soon she will be in custody and every thing we have gone through will be over…

    Today is a day to cry thankful tears.

    Again, I am so sorry. I hope you understand… It has been very difficult to hold it together because of her. I almost completely fell apart as you witnessed.

    please be well

    love always,

  35. Comment by onewhoiswatching on June 5, 2009 3:35 am


    It sounds like you are going through the refiners fire. I can’t imagine how difficult of a situation you must be going through.

    I think we all fluctuate between love and fear during this mortal state. You are not alone.

    May the Lord bless and sustain you in this difficult time


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  37. Comment by OWIW on July 4, 2009 7:29 am


    You said

    “My current understanding is that the “meridian of time” does not refer to the birth of Christ nor to the Atonement of Christ, but to the entire life of Christ, meaning from His birth to His death, or the full 33 years. These 33 years are the halfway point of the 8000 years of Earth’s existence. So, He was born towards the end of the 4th thousand years and He died near the beginning of the 5th thousand years. Which means that the middle point of time would be exactly 16.5 years from his birth, or October 6 of the year 16. Which means that the 5th thousand years ended on October 6, 1016 and that the 6th thousand years will end on October 6, 2016. At which point the 7th seal will open.

    This interpretation seems consistent with both the scriptures and my understanding of the signs of the times that are taking place and “where we are” time-wise according to those signs. I’ve discussed this with what4anarchy and he also seems to think that October 6, 2016 seems about right for the end date of the 6th seal.”

    in light of those remarks and particularly the date of 2016 you may find the following video interesting if you have not already seen it.