Update on the Brazil Deception Part 3: Bob Moore Provides Clarity as to Where He Stands

I have been meaning to give another update on the Brazil Gold Plates Drama for sometime but had to many other things on my mind and some health issues to address.

Since I am leaving for a four day vacation tomorrow, I do not have time to do justice to this topic in just one blog post so I will begin with a portion of this update tonight and continue when I return from vacation or perhaps while on vacation.

John Pratt Challenges Denver Snuffer AGAIN

One bit of interesting news regarding this Brazil drama is that John Pratt, a high profile and highly regarded member of the Snufferite movement appears to have had somewhat of a revelatory parting of the ways with Denver Snuffer.

Pratt is a prolific LDS writer who writes primarily about sacred calendars. He has spoken at one of the Snuffer gatherings.

I surmise Pratt’s defection from the Snufferite movement based on the fact that Pratt appears to have converted over to the Brazil Plates movement, joining the likes of Jonathan Felt, Russell Y Anderson, and an LDS author that prefers to slither around in the background without publicly revealing what he really believes.

All of these folks appear to have been followers of Denver at some point in time. Perhaps some are taking a double-minded approach and participating in both groups.

Pratt has recently written an article in support of the claims made by Mauricio Berger.

Since Denver Snuffer has refused to endorse or embrace the claims of Mauricio Berger and since Mauricio Berger has failed to accept Snuffers innuendos that he is the Davidic servant of end times prophecy, both fringe movements that claim divine revelation are not in harmony with each other and cannot both be true.

Pratt’s conversion to Mauricio Berger’s movement places Snuffer between a rock and a hard spot. He is now officially damned if he supports the new fledgling movement from Brazil and damned if he doesn’t.

The last time Pratt took issue with Denver Snuffer, it was pertaining to the legitimacy of D&C 110.

After Denver Snuffer suggested to his flock that it was not a valid revelation and that the event never took place, Pratt used his mind numbing gyrations having to do with sacred calendars, constellations and Zodiac Ages to prove that it was a true revelation based on the date that the event took place. ( April 3rd 1836)

Because of Pratt’s huge popularity among the Snufferites, Denver was apparently concerned about being exposed as a false prophet resulting in a mass defection from his followers so he quickly produced a revelation from God altering much of the content of Section 110 as it was originally recorded in the D&C.

Denver’s new revelation (which can be read here) confirmed that a vision was received on that date by Joseph and Oliver in the Kirtland Temple behind the veil. The new revelation read similarly to the first half of what is in Section 110. However, the major alterations started in the second half which expunged the visits of Moses (to deliver the keys of the gathering of Israel), Elias (to deliver the keys of the Dispensation of the Gospel of Abraham) and Elijah (to declare that the time has fully come as spoken of by Malachi).

As per the new revelation, it was simply the accuracy of the details of the event contained in Section 110 that were at issue.

This revelatory maneuver enabled Denver to save face and for John Pratt to enjoy a prophetic endorsement of his article.. all without disrupting the Snufferite movement which is now struggling to recruit new followers.

It will be fun and fascinating to see how Denver responds to this new challenge from Pratt. Perhaps another authoritative revelation is in store!

An Unexpected Contact from Tyler Crowell

I was contacted by Tyler Crowell, one of the eight witnesses, on June 1st. This is what his email said

“Hello watcher

Would you like to have a conversation about the sealed book of Mormon?

Have you and your friends been able to study and pray concerning what is written?”

I assumed that Tyler was hoping that my views about the movement he was involved in had softened and was hoping for more publicity through my blog or a podcast.

My first response was as follows:

Tyler,

I’m on my way to my grandsons soccer game right now and will get back to you later but I am open to the possibility of perhaps recording a Skype session interview with you..

..Hope all is going well for you.

Talk to you later.

My next response was as follows:

I am back.

In answer to your question, I have the book and I have read a short portion of it but have not read the whole thing. It is very difficult and painful for me to read.

I find that when I begin reading God’s word in the true scriptures, I cannot put it down and I am filled with the spirit. Yet when I try to read the so-called sealed portion, I get bored and my mind wonders and I am filled with darkness.

 I have found a few serious problems with it.

One of them has to do with the fact that the person who fabricated it plagiarized a novel prophetic concept from my blog.

While I feel that the novel concept that I introduced may possibly be inspired and true, I am not flattered nor impressed that it is validated in Mauricio’s sealed portion.

I think that plagiarizing a prophetic speculation of mine was bad form and probably an attempt to appeal to my ego and get me to convert.

I remain more convinced than ever that you have been deceived.

Since my blog was the first that I am aware of to cover the story about the Brazil Plates and since some of the delusional followers of the Brazil movement came from my readership, I feel like I probably should do a follow up article which I am planning to do.

However, if you would like to be interviewed and to have an opportunity to bear your testimony and give an update on things from your perspective, and to point out any reasons why you think the published sealed portion of Mauricio’s is inspired, I would be willing to give you that platform. (providing that you have skype and that I can get it to work from my end. The only attempt I have done in recording a skype conversation did not produce a high quality sound recording and I am not sure why.)

Obviously, I would share my belief that the work is a fraud, but I would be a respectful and fair minded interviewer and would allow you to present your side of the story without interruption.

 If you do not feel good about the interview after it is done, I will not publish it for people to listen to, however it would either be published in its entirety or not at all, I would not be willing to edit anything out in order to get your ok to publish it.

If you truly feel that you are involved in God’s marvelous work, you should not feel intimidated at the opportunity to have an open discussion about it.

Since your movement is having a difficult time picking up traction, I think you would be wise to try to get more exposure. I continually get people coming to my site who are googling keywords having to do with the Brazil Plates movement.

Anyway, let me know if you would have any interest n doing the interview..

I have not heard back from Tyler. However, I copied Joseph F. Smith and Bob Moore when I replied to Tyler.

To my astonishment, I got a detailed reply from Bob Moore!

Here is what he said:

Dear Watcher

From my perspective, the witnesses who returned from Brazil in March 2018 did not follow the instructions that we received.  The primary source of those instructions, according to Mauricio, was a transcript of a lengthy set of instructions given by Moroni on January 17, 2017.  At that time, Mauricio said that Moroni told him to write Joseph F. Smith and invite him to come to Brazil.  Only a small portion of those words were sent to the witnesses.

When the 8 witnesses first gathered after our return in March 2018, there was disagreement.  It grew and by May I found myself in the minority.  The first Sunday in August I believed that if the witnesses did not resolve their differences before an upcoming event, division would occur.  I emailed my concerns.

Mauricio wrote the witnesses about some of the differences that were happening.  I interpreted those emails as support for many of my concerns, but those emails did not resolve any of the problems.  As Joseph began meetings that led to the organization of the church he now leads, I withdrew, believing that it violated the instruction that I mentioned above.  Joseph thought it fulfilled those instructions.  I understand why he thinks that way.

The deciding factor for me came about the first of November.  I had already seen some anachronisms in the instructions that Mauricio was sending.  What he sent in November was worse and contradicted scripture.

I had hoped that the witnesses could help me with the issues that I had with the instructions that Mauricio gave, but that did not happen.  When we met in November, we were to begin reading the translation, but I needed to resolve those issues before beginning that task and hoped that could be accomplished.

Unfortunately, Joseph had enlarged the group.  I could not bring up my concerns within that larger group without violating the confidential agreement that the witnesses had made.  The additional participants also contradicted (at least in my mind) the instructions that we received.  I withdrew from the group.  Brad Gault did, too.

Joseph’s plan to organize the new church was disrupting the branch that Brad and I attended.  We issued a joint statement about our concerns.  I am attaching a copy to this email.

I asked if I could read the translation while it was being printed.  They allowed it.  I read it from a screen during three sessions and took no notes.  That cursory reading clearly showed that the words were not divine.

I immediately noticed that parts of the Book of Moses were taken from the Ethiopian Book of Enoch.  I simply do not believe that angels had sex with women, as that spurious rendition of Enoch’s writings states.  There were other unscriptural teachings.

Worse yet, for me, was a statement that I had made while in Brazil printed in the translation in two places, both as if inserted and out of context with the surrounding narrative.  I had made that statement to Joseph several times in Mauricio’s presence.

On March 10, I believe that I was divinely instructed to research when Elasah traveled to Babylon as an ambassador for King Zedekiah.  During that trip, he took a letter from Jeremiah to the captives.

I discovered that Elasah went in the fourth year of Zedekiah’s reign, but the translation states that it was in the first year.  That proved to me that the translation is false.

I wrote my concerns to the witnesses on several occasions, but to no avail.  At the end of March, just after the translation was released, I posted my testimony concerning the translation.  I am attaching it, as well as two longer articles that are mentioned in my testimony.

Joseph followed the instructions from Mauricio and named the new church, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.  Those instructions promised that the name was in the open domain and had been divinely preserved so Joseph could use it for the restructured church.  However, the Secretary of State for Missouri dissolved that corporation because it perpetrated fraud on the state.

This event is clear evidence to me that the instruction that Mauricio gave and which he said came from Moroni is false.

I notified the witnesses.  One suggested that the reason was due to corporate law and not trademark law—that the name could still be used.  I have asked an official for the state of Missouri how I can obtain a more detailed explanation regarding the dissolution, but I just did that.

As I stated in my testimony, I believe that all the witnesses are honest men who are trying to do what they think is right.  The Restoration Branch movement, which came out of the RLDS Church, has been continually buffeted by contention, accusations, and division.

By my count, this new church that Joseph leads is the tenth one to emerge.  Most are defunct and those not are dying.  In the beginning, I believed that the testimony from Brazil was true and the needed catalyst to draw the saints together, at least those in the Restoration Branch movement.  It was a false hope.

I do not want to participate in the contention and accusations that grips the Restoration Branch Movement.  For that reason, I have chosen my words carefully.

Even with that caution, they may offend some who might complain that I have mischaracterized something.  Since I do not believe that I can exercise the same care in casual conversation, I do no wish to be interviewed.  I will, however, answer in writing any questions that you ask, if I can.  I will let the attached, this email, and any future emails suffice.

Thank you for asking.

I appreciate your forthrightness.

Bob

Many of us have desired to have clarity as to where Bob Moore stands and what the issues were that caused his name to be dropped as a witness.

I think the above email speaks for itself and provides a significant amount of additional detail.

I congratulate Bob for catching all of the discrepancies that he has observed and for having the intestinal fortitude to speak out about the discrepancies to the other witnesses, and for bringing these issues out in the open for the general public to consider.

Thank you Bob for your courage and integrity. I am sure this series of events has been very difficult for you.

Dear readers, if you think that email from Bob was interesting and informative, wait till you read the attachments that he sent me.

To be continued…

Keep Watching..  😉