“for thus it shall be called”: the elders and people of my Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, scattered abroad in all the world..


I am not sure the LDS Church is going to let them get away with this !?!?

My guess is that Mauricio got a commandment from Moroni to have Joseph F. Smith and his associates name their emerging church according to the name given in a prophecy on April 26th 1838. Corporations are critical in setting up institutionalized religions.

In the prophecy it is decreed that in the last days when the gathering to Zion is taking place, those who consecrate and gather to Zion will be called the “Church in Zion” while all of the Saints who remain in a scattered condition will be called the “Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints

Doctrine and Covenants 115:3-4

3 And also unto my faithful servants who are of the high council of my church in Zion, for thus it shall be called, and unto all the elders and people of my Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, scattered abroad in all the world;

Until Zion is redeemed during the official gathering, all of God’s Saints are to be called the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints.

Clearly, Mauricio’s new church and movement is struggling to gain traction and begin on the new temple.

Until they are able to establish Zion, they apparently feel that they are designated according to scripture as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints who are in a scattered condition preparing for Zion.

Good luck with that one 🙂

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Bobbi Chinnery appears to have replaced Bob Moore as Joseph F. Smith’s confidant, and overseer.

Perhaps she will be called as one of the new apostles or perhaps as a councilor to Joseph in the presidency of the high priesthood.

Joseph has disassociated himself with Bob’s website and is having his right hand gal control his new website. She is now an officer in the corporation.

Although Joseph F Smith has now allowed himself to be ordained a high priest and president of the high priesthood, he is now claiming that previous to his ordination by Mauricio and Mauricio’s ordination by Moroni, there has been no priesthood on the earth for more than 100 years. Everyone will have to be rebaptized and re-ordained.

Once the Utah Saints gathered to the west, Brigham Young also required all of his followers to get rebaptized under his authority as the president of the Church. It is the supreme power play to solidify control.

The opportunity to repair the breach between him and Bob and the Zarahemla Branch emerged briefly, but apparently not to be.

The drama continues..





B.M. looks over at Kelvin Henson and says “No” and then looks over at Kelvin Henson. Then Bob looks over at Tyler Crowell and asks him “Would you say he is starting a new church?” and Bob says “No” again as he turns to look back at B.K.

B.K. asks, “Is anyone among the eight or the witnesses starting a new church or asking to organize a new church?”

B.M. looks at Kelvin Henson and looks back at B.K. and says “No”.

B.K. says, “So he has not asked for anything, he’s not asked for a new church




12 Responses to “for thus it shall be called”: the elders and people of my Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, scattered abroad in all the world..

  1. Dang Feminists.

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  2. Jessi H says:

    This is very interesting. Thank you for keeping us posted about these people and events. We live in fascinating times.

  3. Russell Anderson says:

    The LDS church (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) is not even composed of the members of the church. It is a “Corporation Sole” with one member – the president of the church. Since 1940 the corporation documents define who will be the next president in the corporation documents for the: CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

    Also notice that the LDS church uses the name with Latter-day saints hyphenated. That is a difference with what the Zion group working with the Brazil plates is doing. They have not included a hyphen.

    Thanks for your information. I didn’t know they had done this.

    • Russell

      The insertion of the capital D and getting rid of the hyphen are an obvious ploy to differentiate themselves from the Mormon Church but I am pretty sure that the state can reject a name if it is similar and can cause confusion.

      Especially if the larger, established corporation challenges the deception.

      The bigger story in my opinion has to do with the fact that they would even feel a need to incorporate at all.

      If there is one thing that can be learned from a study of how things have evolved, is that legal fictions are evil and very little good comes from using them.

      Agreeing to abide by the rules of the federal government through legal entities is tantamount to intentionally becoming part of the great and abominable..

      I realize that now Joseph is no longer on Bob’s payroll and he is getting donations from various people, he now needs to do some tax planning on how these funds will be reported… Hence a non-profit corporation, etc.

      The institutionalization of religion never ends well.

      • Jessi H says:

        I agree. Incorporating places the state at the head of the “church”, and puts the corporation under the jurisdiction of the government. Because the government is covertly controlled by the hidden hand of Rome, all churches belong to their mother (of abominations), the great whore of all the earth.

  4. JC says:

    Your source has a number of inaccuracies, probably due to getting their information second or third-hand. Have you asked any of the witnesses for clarification?

    • Please specify what the accuracies are, and how you know the truth of the matter so that I can make the corrections.

    • HereticDestroyer says:

      Haha ask the witnesses? They aren’t going to tell us anything of any importance here! I would ask you JC, where is Bob Moore in all of this? Seems to me he’s keeping his mouth shut and not saying a word about any of this any more. No mention of Joseph, Mauricio, Brazil or the sealed portion when he speaks at Zarahemla! He knows the monster he helped create got loose and he’s no longer in control of it so the only thing he can really do is hide out and keep quiet and not say a word. So yes please tell us JC, what’s inaccurate here exactly? How we were told that that they weren’t asking for money, there was no prophet being ordained , and there was no church being formed? But now it’s a very obvious YES to all of those. Or maybe it’s about the whole rebaptizing and reordaining thing? Which I have multiple legitimate sources tell me that Joseph did talk about that out at Holden in is sermon.

  5. Cathy Hagedorn says:

    I’ve listened to podcasts #1 & #2, together with this article you’ve helped me to understand the following revelation better:
    “Please pray for the holy melchizedek priesthood that the godhead would inspire them to use the authority I gave them more abundantly to bless the saints and to bring forth Zion. “
    I received this word in June 2010 and the part about “to bring forth Zion “ makes more sense to me now. Thank you.

  6. Watcher in OZ says:

    Thanks Watcher. your site and Z3news are two of the most important sites
    on the net as to the remnant and restoration movement. I read my way out of the Church reading TLC Harmston and various sealed portions by various authors in 2003 here in Australia.

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