A Review of What the Book of Mormon Tells us about the Latter day Jews: Part 3

Grab a Coke and some popcorn, this is going to be lengthy.

When I discuss highly controversial things I sometimes try to hide them in very long diatribes so that the less invested will get glassy-eyed and loose interest and wander off.

I want to begin this third installment about the eschatology of the Jews by addressing a few questions, observations, and other comments by readers that the last segment stimulated.

The first comes from a reader in Australia who sent me the following email.

Hey watcher

Reading your current (and excellent thus far) post.
A q- if the book of the lamb, which proceeds from the jew’s mouth, and contains the fullness of the 12 apostles, comes to us from Lehi’s seed, what is the bible??
The bible as I know didnt come from the mouth of a jew- it came from many mouths of many Jews and thus is not of an exclusive authorship of a single Jew. Further, it didn’t come to us from Lehi’s seed. Heck we don’t even know who his seed are!
As i read the incredible scriptures found from ancient sources that are outside of the bible, including the Sumerian texts and many many more, i see how it may be possible that the bible we currently revere is ‘9 truths to be able to teach 1 lie’ (I paraphrase JS here).
Is it a counterfeit that looks and feel like the real deal?
ur thoughts?

 

First off, a keyword search reveals that there are four different passages that address this concept of how the Book of the Lamb of God proceeds forth from the mouth of a Jew (or Jews).

Before reviewing them it is important to realize that “proceed“, “proceeding” and “proceeded” all refer to  going forth and making progress:

Proceed

PROCEE’D

PROCEE’DER, noun One who goes forward, or who makes a progress.

 

Hence we see that the passages are not claiming that the entire book is written or revealed or published by just one man or even a few men, nor is the process accomplished in just one generation.

Rather, it is a record that covers a long period of history and there is a very significant person and persons who begin the process of going forth with this record. The creation of the record takes time.

Interestingly, most of the passages indicate that a single Jew began the process while another passage clearly indicates that multiple Jews helped in the creation of the record.

All of them are correct and congruent with each other. There was one Jew in particular that began the record, but others followed after him in helping to bring forth the record.

Lets look at the four passages:

24 And the angel of the Lord said unto me: Thou hast beheld that the book proceeded forth from the mouth of a Jew; and when it proceeded forth from the mouth of a Jew it contained the fulness of the gospel of the Lord, of whom the twelve apostles bear record; and they bear record according to the truth which is in the Lamb of God.

38 And it came to pass that I beheld the remnant of the seed of my brethren, and also the book of the Lamb of God, which had proceeded forth from the mouth of the Jew, that it came forth from the Gentiles unto the remnant of the seed of my brethren. 1 Nephi 13:24,38

23 Wherefore, the things which he shall write are just and true; and behold they are written in the book which thou beheld proceeding out of the mouth of the Jew; and at the time they proceeded out of the mouth of the Jew, or, at the time the book proceeded out of the mouth of the Jew, the things which were written were plain and pure, and most precious and easy to the understanding of all men. 1 Nephi 14:23

4 But thus saith the Lord God: O fools, they shall have a Bible; and it shall proceed forth from the Jews, mine ancient covenant people. And what thank they the Jews for the Bible which they receive from them? Yea, what do the Gentiles mean? Do they remember the travails, and the labors, and the pains of the Jews, and their diligence unto me, in bringing forth salvation unto the Gentiles? 2 Nephi 29:4

As you can see, there was a Jew who began the process. Other Jews would follow after him in helping this record to come forth.

So who was this Jew that began the process of going forth with the record?

The oral tradition of the Jews claims that it was Moses that wrote the Book of Genesis. In fact, Jewish tradition attributes the first five books of the Old Testament to Moses. These first five books are referred to as the “Pentateuch” which means “five scrolls“. The Pentateuch is often called the Five Books of Moses or the “Torah”.

On the sixth day of Sivan 6, some 3,500 years ago, Moses climbed up Mount Sinai. During his 40-day stay on the mountain, according to popular Jewish tradition, God dictated to him not only the Ten Commandments but the whole Torah, as well as the Oral Law.

Modern Scholars Disagree

Modern scholars are increasingly suggesting that this is not the case and that it is a product of the 6th and 5th centuries BC. That assessment is a vintage example of how the learning of men and trusting in the arm of flesh leads us into darkness.

Thankfully as latter day saints we don’t need to guess or speculate or rely on the uninspired mutterings of the learned skeptics who are too wise to be taught. It was revealed to Joseph Smith that the creation story in Genesis was in fact revealed to Moses in vision and that he is in fact the inspired author of the book of Genesis and the creation story and he is the one that began the process of the Bible going forth.

Moses was caught up to an exceeding high mountain and shown “the world upon which he was created; and Moses beheld the world and the ends thereof, and all the children of men which are, and which were created; of the same he greatly marveled and wondered.”

1 The words of God, which he spake unto Moses at a time when Moses was caught up into an exceedingly high mountain,

2 And he saw God face to face, and he talked with him, and the glory of God was upon Moses; therefore Moses could endure his presence.

3 And God spake unto Moses, saying: Behold, I am the Lord God Almighty, and Endless is my name; for I am without beginning of days or end of years; and is not this endless?

4 And, behold, thou art my son; wherefore look, and I will show thee the workmanship of mine hands; but not all, for my works are without end, and also my words, for they never cease.

5 Wherefore, no man can behold all my works, except he behold all my glory; and no man can behold all my glory, and afterwards remain in the flesh on the earth.

6 And I have a work for thee, Moses, my son; and thou art in the similitude of mine Only Begotten; and mine Only Begotten is and shall be the Savior, for he is full of grace and truth; but there is no God beside me, and all things are present with me, for I know them all.

7 And now, behold, this one thing I show unto thee, Moses, my son, for thou art in the world, and now I show it unto thee.

8 And it came to pass that Moses looked, and beheld the world upon which he was created; and Moses beheld the world and the ends thereof, and all the children of men which are, and which were created; of the same he greatly marveled and wondered.

As you can see, Moses saw the creation of the world and everyone on it in vision.

Later in the inspired text, the Lord clearly states that Moses would write about the things showed him regarding the creating and peopling of the earth. The Lord even informed Moses that people would take things out of the book that he would right and that a latter day seer like Moses would be raised up to restore what Moses originally had written.

40 And now, Moses, my son, I will speak unto thee concerning this earth upon which thou standest; and thou shalt write the things which I shall speak.

41 And in a day when the children of men shall esteem my words as naught and take many of them from the book which thou shalt write, behold, I will raise up another like unto thee; and they shall be had again among the children of men—among as many as shall believe.

I would suggest that Joseph Smith is the one like Moses as stated several times in scripture. It is Joseph Smith that will restore the corrupted book that was begun by Moses.

Clearly Moses is the Jew from which the book of the Lamb of God proceeded.

According to the testimony of Josiah Qunicy he heard Joseph Smith declare that Moses was the one who composed the book of Genesis:

“..Here we have the earliest account of the creation, from which Moses composed the first book of Genesis.”

Obviously, many books were added to the Book of the Lamb of God after Moses proceeded to bring forth the first five books within it. Other prophets and inspired scribes continued the process. The incomplete and imperfect remnant of this “Book of the Lamb of God” has became known as the “Bible”.

Growing out of the record that we refer to as the Old Testament was the record of the New Testament. Both of those testaments contained the plain and precious things when they initially went forth.

It is noteworthy that the book of Malachi, commonly accepted as the last book of the Old Testament foretells the coming of Elijah the Prophet and in the beginning chapters of the New Testament we have the account of Elijah going forth in the wilderness in the person of John the Baptist to prepare the way for Jesus Christ.

One could argue that the events recorded in the New Testament up to the time of the Crucifixion and atonement of Christ are technically still taking place during Old Testament times even though they are recorded in the New Testament, while the New Testament technically takes place when the New Covenant (Testament) took place via the atonement. This fact simply shows the cohesiveness of the meshing together of the Old Testament with the New Testament. 

The King James Version of the Bible that was foundational to the LDS restoration movement was an imperfect remnant of the Book of the Lamb of God.

Nevertheless the testament of the gospel of Christ contained therein, when combined with the testament within the Book of Mormon, was accurate enough to be accepted as a foundational canon of scripture for the restored church. These canons would suffice until the time would come when the fulness of the scriptures (Book of the Lamb of God) would eventually come forth again through God’s servant:

12 And again, the elders, priests and teachers of this church shall teach the principles of my gospel, which are in the Bible and the Book of Mormon, in the which is the fulness of the gospel.

13 And they shall observe the covenants and church articles to do them, and these shall be their teachings, as they shall be directed by the Spirit.

14 And the Spirit shall be given unto you by the prayer of faith; and if ye receive not the Spirit ye shall not teach.

15 And all this ye shall observe to do as I have commanded concerning your teaching, until the fulness of my scriptures is given.

Both the Book of Mormon and the revelations that Joseph Smith brought forth inform us that many plain and precious things and important covenants of the Lord had been taken out of the Bible by the Great and Abominable Church of the Devil.

The general storyline of the KJV of the Bible and the testament of the gospel of Jesus Christ contained therein was adequate to provide a foundation for the restoration.

Interestingly, the Book of Mormon informs us that the original record of the New Testament that was included in the Book of the Lamb of God included the testimonies of all twelve apostles. It appears as if the plain and precious things taken out of the record by the Great and Abominable church included most of these 12 testimonies. Note the following passages:

24 And the angel of the Lord said unto me: Thou hast beheld that the book proceeded forth from the mouth of a Jew; and when it proceeded forth from the mouth of a Jew it contained the fulness of the gospel of the Lord, of whom the twelve apostles bear record; and they bear record according to the truth which is in the Lamb of God.

25 Wherefore, these things go forth from the Jews in purity unto the Gentiles, according to the truth which is in God.

26 And after they go forth by the hand of the twelve apostles of the Lamb, from the Jews unto the Gentiles, thou seest the formation of that great and abominable church, which is most abominable above all other churches; for behold, they have taken away from the gospel of the Lamb many parts which are plain and most precious; and also many covenants of the Lord have they taken away.

27 And all this have they done that they might pervert the right ways of the Lord, that they might blind the eyes and harden the hearts of the children of men

39 And after it had come forth unto them I beheld other books, which came forth by the power of the Lamb, from the Gentiles unto them, unto the convincing of the Gentiles and the remnant of the seed of my brethren, and also the Jews who were scattered upon all the face of the earth, that the records of the prophets and of the twelve apostles of the Lamb are true.

40 And the angel spake unto me, saying: These last records, which thou hast seen among the Gentiles, shall establish the truth of the first, which are of the twelve apostles of the Lamb, and shall make known the plain and precious things which have been taken away from them; and shall make known to all kindreds, tongues, and people, that the Lamb of God is the Son of the Eternal Father, and the Savior of the world; and that all men must come unto him, or they cannot be saved.

41 And they must come according to the words which shall be established by the mouth of the Lamb; and the words of the Lamb shall be made known in the records of thy seed, as well as in the records of the twelve apostles of the Lamb; wherefore they both shall be established in one; for there is one God and one Shepherd over all the earth.

In my opinion, the Book of the Lamb of God contained many more details about the ministry of the Twelve Apostles of the Lamb as well as each of their respective testimonies.

I do not believe that the King James Version of the Bible or the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible contains the testimonies of all twelve apostles. The majority of the testimony and content contained in the Bible are from Paul who was not a member of the quorum of the twelve apostles and other non-apostolic disciples of the Lord. ( Although one of the gospels appears to have been written by one of the apostles and the New Testament does contain a compelling testimony from Peter.)

The fact that the KJV of the Bible and Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible do not contain the testimonies of the Twelve apostles provides additional evidence that the Bible does not represent the Book of the Lamb of God in its original, complete and undefiled condition.

The JST plays an incredible role in correcting mistakes, providing clarity and sheding much light that has been taken away from the remnant of the scriptures that came through the hands of the Great and Abominable Church. But it is only a precurser to the coming forth of the complete record that is referred to as the Book of the Lamb of God.

It is no wonder that when the Book of the Lamb of God finally comes forth when the Marvelous Work and a Wonder begins, it will be rejected by much of protestant Christianity and much of the apostate Mormon Church because they think they already have the Book of the Lamb of God as represented in the Bible.

This is what will take place when the Book of the Lamb of God comes forth for the last time:

1 But behold, there shall be many—at that day when I shall proceed to do a marvelous work among them, that I may remember my covenants which I have made unto the children of men, that I may set my hand again the second time to recover my people, which are of the house of Israel;

2 And also, that I may remember the promises which I have made unto thee, Nephi, and also unto thy father, that I would remember your seed; and that the words of your seed should proceed forth out of my mouth unto your seed; and my words shall hiss forth unto the ends of the earth, for a standard unto my people, which are of the house of Israel;

3 And because my words shall hiss forth—many of the Gentiles shall say: A Bible! A Bible! We have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible.

4 But thus saith the Lord God: O fools, they shall have a Bible; and it shall proceed forth from the Jews, mine ancient covenant people. And what thank they the Jews for the Bible which they receive from them? …

6 Thou fool, that shall say: A Bible, we have got a Bible, and we need no more Bible. Have ye obtained a Bible save it were by the Jews? …

10 Wherefore, because that ye have a Bible ye need not suppose that it contains all my words; neither need ye suppose that I have not caused more to be written.

We gentiles have a Bible however it does not contain all of God’s words.

The Gentiles Come Forth out of Captivity into Hidden Bondage

Before continuing with our keyword search in this series on the Jews, I also got some fabulous comments by a fellow that I would like to address in this post since it pertains to a section of scripture that we have already highlighted in this series.

His comments begin thusly:

I know there is more to come in this series, but with a lifetime of indoctrination, I’ve got a lot of cognitive dissonance to wade through.

Everyone that takes the red pill and attempts to wipe the slate of indoctrination clean by doing their own keyword searches and taking a fresh look at these passages is going to experience some degree of cognitive dissonance.

We all experience this. After three decades of doing more that 10,000 keyword and key phrase searches and writing over 500 articles and blog posts, I still find myself vacillating back and forth between preconceived notions and the light of truth that new evidence reveals.

He continues

I can see 1 Nephi 13 in the mainstream LDS view as a narrative of the 1st watch to 2nd watch. But if it the Book of the Lamb of God isn’t the Bible, then that’s not what the narrative is about…

The Bible is an incomplete remnant of the Book of the Lamb of God. The book was pure and undefiled when it first went forth from the Jews to the Gentiles but over time, the great church took many of the plain and precious parts out of it, including some covenants of the Lord.

This is one of the profundities revealed in 1 Nephi 13. This is why the Lord commanded Joseph Smith to begin revising, correcting and providing inspired commentary of the King James portion of the Bible even though it was an incomplete remnant of the original that will one day come forth. Although corrections and clarifications were being made to it, je did not add all of the plain and precious things that had been removed from the original version of it.

The Inspired Version of the Bible as is stands today, as great as it is, does not represent the Book of the Lamb of God in its entirety. One evidence of this as previously noted, is that the New Testament portion of it needs to contain all twelve testimonies of the twelve apostles.

Continuing with the readers comments:

I can somewhat get 1 Nephi 13 to be a 2nd/3rd watch narrative, but not as well as I’d like. The man among the Gentiles who was separated by many waters could be a match for the man who was in the sea. He and other Gentiles were in captivity until they were lifted up by the power of God — this is definitely 3rd watch stuff. I don’t know, am I stretching it too far or is this matching those other passages?

Being lifted up by the power of God is not referring to the pilgrims who landed on the shores of America nor is it referring to the patriots that rebelled against and attempted to break away from England nor is it referring to the saints of the restoration of the gospel at the time of Joseph Smith.

It is clearly referring to a third watch event when a righteous portion of the Gentiles in America finally are finally “lifted up” by the “power of God“.

That event is yet future.

That future event represents the FIRST TIME that the gentiles ultimately come out of every form of captivity and bondage!

From Captivity to Liberty???

A traditional LDS perspective that is extracted from 1 Nephi 13 is that the Gentile pilgrims that left England to go to America immediately went from “captivity” to “liberty” by leaving England and coming to America.

WRONG!

Well meaning Latter day saint prophecy scholars have placed an undo amount of reverence and piety upon the founding fathers of this nation and a sanitized history of this nation in an effort to force the narrative in 1 Nephi 13 to conform to their false interpretation of it.

Cleon Skousen was a wonderful and passionate gospel and prophecy scholar who did much study and contemplation. In my opinion, he had a good heart and good intent and did much good. His books and lectures about the constitution and the history of our nation did a great job of focusing on the good aspects of our founding fathers and history. Nevertheless, he and the LDS prophecy scholars of his generation were steeped in the false traditions of their fathers and their eyes were blinded regarding the true narrative in 1 Nephi 13..

I am going to challenge the comonly accepted interpretations and suggest that the real narrative that is being presented in 1 Nephi 13, when viewed through the lens of the related scriptural snippets and the true history of America, is quite different than commonly supposed.

I am suggesting that the Gentile Pilgrims went from a form of captivity in England, to a form of political bondage in America. They did not enjoy true freedom and liberty upon arrival nor has this been realized from that time to the present.

I realize that this is going to challenge perceptions and create indigestion for those who have not studied this topic in depth.

The true narrative is that the gentiles went forth from captivity in England to captivity in America. Their bondage was imposed by the same oppressors in England and the shadow controllers in the Vatican.

Even when the rebellion took place against the mother country years later, true FREEDOM and LIBERTY were not realized. Nefarious forces were still at play which created a corrupted and manipulated “rule of law” controlled by conspirators that allowed the Vatican and the Crown to continue their dominion over the inhabitants of America from the shadows.

America continues, to this day, to be governed by the same sinister forces and corrupt rule of law that governs England.

Americans have been brainwashed to think they are a free nation and that we enjoy LIBERTY. Nothing could be further from the truth.

If this were a free nation and a land of liberty there would be no such thing as “licensing” and you would not need to pay “taxes” on property that you truely own.

Not only is Mormonism a cult, American patriotism is also a cult.

Every time you place your hand over your heart to pledge your allegiance to the flag at a sporting event or some other public event you are practicing an insidious form of idolatry which is no doubt very offensive to your creator.

You may as well be participating in a secret order within witchcraft or some other arm of the occult. In fact, you are. and when the Marvelous Work begins, God is going to destroy cult practices and the witchcraft that you are currently participating in.

If you think Americans were a free people during the LDS restoration movement, why did one of the very first revelations warn the people that the enemy in the secret chamber was conspiring to destroy the church?

The threat was not just from some foreign power across the great waters, it was from a secret order in the secret chambers embedded in America.

Land of Liberty? 2nd Nephi Reveals the Truth

Lehi prophesied that America would become a “land of liberty” to God’s people. However, he declared that God’s people must first SERVE HIM and obey his commandments BEFORE it would become a land of liberty:

7 Wherefore, this land is consecrated unto him whom he shall bring. And if it so be that they shall serve him according to the commandments which he hath given, it shall be a land of liberty unto them; wherefore, they shall never be brought down into captivity; if so, it shall be because of iniquity; for if iniquity shall abound cursed shall be the land for their sakes, but unto the righteous it shall be blessed forever. 2 Nephi 1

Were the saints of the LDS restoration movement successful in serving the Lord and obeying the commandments they received or did they reject the fulness of the Gospel and become rejected as a church with their dead?

Moving forward into 2 Nephi 10 the topic of liberty in America continues. It informs us that America becomes a land of liberty once Zion is established. That is when America becomes fortified against all other nations and enjoys true liberty:

11 And this land shall be a land of liberty unto the Gentiles, and there shall be no kings upon the land, who shall raise up unto the Gentiles.

12 And I will fortify this land against all other nations.

13 And he that fighteth against Zion shall perish, saith God.

We are informed that before America can truly become free, God must destroy the secret works of darkness and of murders and of abominations:

15 Wherefore, for this cause, that my covenants may be fulfilled which I have made unto the children of men, that I will do unto them while they are in the flesh, I must needs destroy the secret works of darkness, and of murders, and of abominations.

Has God destroyed the secret works of darkness in America?

I don’t think so.

Once America finally becomes a land of liberty God will finally fulfill his promises that he has made to the children of men:

17 For I will fulfil my promises which I have made unto the children of men, that I will do unto them while they are in the flesh—

We are informed that America does not become a land of liberty until the Gentiles repent and become numbered among the righteous seed of Lehi once they are converted en masse.

19 Wherefore, I will consecrate this land unto thy seed, and them who shall be numbered among thy seed, forever, for the land of their inheritance; for it is a choice land, saith God unto me, above all other lands, wherefore I will have all men that dwell thereon that they shall worship me, saith God.

As you can see, the Book of Mormon reveals that liberty is not enjoyed in America when the gentile pilgrims arrive or even at the time of the rebellion agains the King of England or at the time of the LDS restoration movement when the latter day saints stumbled in their attempt to serve God and obey the commandments.

Liberty is achieved once the Gentiles repent and are united with the converted seed of Lehi.

A Free People? Sections 38 & 44 Reveal the Truth

Why was the Lord speaking of giving the saints a “land of promise” and a “land of inheritance” in the future tense, predicated upon obedience to his law?

Why did he tell the saints that they shall be a free people in the future?

Wherefore, hear my voice and follow me, and you shall be a free people

The hope of being free was a future promise.

God did not consider the saints to be a free people in 1831. He does not consider us to be a free people now.

Why do latter day saints always thank God for this free country when the Lord has made it clear that we don’t live in a free country?

Yes we have many freedoms that some other countries don’t enjoy. That is why the gospel could be restored in this land, but lets not get carried away here.

Section 38 clearly states that we are in bondage.

22 Wherefore, hear my voice and follow me, and you shall be a free people, and ye shall have no laws but my laws when I come, for I am your lawgiver, and what can stay my hand?

The saints will one day escape the power of the enemy and be a free people when they finally hear the words of Christ and follow him.

31 And that ye might escape the power of the enemy, and be gathered unto me a righteous people, without spot and blameless—

32 Wherefore, for this cause I gave unto you the commandment that ye should go to the Ohio; and there I will give unto you my law; and there you shall be endowed with power from on high;

33 And from thence, whosoever I will shall go forth among all nations, and it shall be told them what they shall do; for I have a great work laid up in store, for Israel shall be saved, and I will lead them whithersoever I will, and no power shall stay my hand.

America was infiltrated by and dominated by conspirators long before the gospel was restored through Joseph Smith.

Why is the Lord giving the saints instructions on how they can escape the power of the enemy if they are a free people who enjoy liberty?

Why is the Lord declaring that a physical gathering is requisite in escaping the power of the enemy that they were in bondage to?

The Lord is commanding the saints to go to Ohio to obtain his law and obtain power from on high. Both of those tasks were integral to escaping the power of the enemy. The consequences of not successfully gathering and living God’s law was bondage.

Section 44 was the official invitation for the elders of the restored church to gather to the Morley Farm and witness the bestowal of the Melchizedek Priesthood and the Office of High Priest for the very first time.

That revelation was a follow up to section 38 and it contains the invitation for the elders of the restored church to gather to Kirtland to receive power from on high so that the saints could escape the power of the enemy.

3 And it shall come to pass that they shall go forth into the regions round about, and preach repentance unto the people.

4 And many shall be converted, insomuch that ye shall obtain power to organize yourselves according to the laws of man;

5 That your enemies may not have power over you; that you may be preserved in all things; that you may be enabled to keep my laws; that every bond may be broken wherewith the enemy seeketh to destroy my people.

Every “BOND” shall be broken

The saints were commanded to use the existing laws of man to organize themselve according to the law of consecration so that they could fully live God’s law.

Doing so would prevent their enemies from having power over them. This would break the “bonds” they were in.

The attempt was made.

An endowment was given.

But the first attempt during Joseph Smith’s ministry failed.

However, the prophetic  passages in section 44 and related prophecies inform us that God’s people will be successful in the future.

Virtually every prophecy has a dual fulfillment. One is an incomplete shadow fulfillment. The other is the literal fulfillment.

The shadow fulfillment has taken place. The literal fulfillment of that prophecy is yet a future event.

Back in 1 Nephi 13 there is a specific term that identifies this attempt at living consecration and establishing Zion. It is the one place in the entire narrative that speaks of the ministry of Joseph Smith and the history of the restored church in the 1830’s and 40’s.

See if you can find it in the following verse.

“and after the Gentiles do stumble exceedingly”

Yep, the word “stumble” is identifying the failed attempt at living God’s law and at establishing Zion during LDS restoration movement.

In 3rd Nephi 16, Christ provides much more clarity on how the saints stumbled. He declares that the saints would reject the fulness of the Gospel:

At that day when the Gentiles shall sin against my gospel, and shall reject the fulness of my gospel, and shall be lifted up in the pride of their hearts above all nations, and above all the people of the whole earth, and shall be filled with all manner of lyings, and of deceits, and of mischiefs, and all manner of hypocrisy, and murders, and priestcrafts, and whoredoms, and of secret abominations; and if they shall do all those things, and shall reject the fulness of my gospel, behold, saith the Father, I will bring the fulness of my gospel from among them.

But why did the saints of the LDS restoration reject the fulness and fail in their attempt at Zion?

The answer is in the following passage in the 1 Nephi 13 narrative:

“..because of the most plain and precious parts of the gospel of the Lamb which have been kept back by that abominable church..”

This provides much needed context to the commandment of the Lord to Joseph Smith to translate the Bible. This is why there was such a sense of urgency to get the Bible translated to prepare our hearts and minds for the time when the complete Book of the Lamb of God would go forth in its fulness.

The establishment of Zion was predicated upon the preliminary translation of the Bible and on the subsequent translation of the Book of the Lamb of God!!

This is why Joseph proclaimed that if the FULNESS OF THE SCRIPTURES was not translated and published the church would fail!

“Brother Joseph Smith, Jr. said … that the promise of God was that the greatest blessings which God had to bestow should be given to those who contributed to the support of his family while he was translating the fulness of the Scriptures … that God had often sealed up the heavens because of covetousness in the Church … and except the Church receive the fulness of the Scriptures that they would yet fail.” (Far West Report, p. 16, quoted in Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, sel. Joseph Fielding Smith, Salt Lake City: Deseret Book, 1938, p. 9.)

It is my opinion that the revision of the existing Bible was only the precurser to the translation of the Book of the Lamb of God (fulness of the scriptures) from the plates.

The “fulness of the scriptures” is critical in establishing Zion and that is why the Lord made this such an urgent issue.

In hind sight, it becomes apparent that if the saints would have been faithful, the Lord would have enabled Joseph to do more than simply correct the portion of the Book that the Gentiles brought with them out of captivity. He could have kept the plates and would have also brought forth the entire Book of the Lamb of God in its fulness that had been preserved and hid up in the plates.

The good news is that the narrative in 1 Nephi 13 informs us that AFTER the gentiles stumble, the day would come when much of the gospel would come forth by the power of God.

Indeed, it would contain the “plain and precious” parts of the book that had been taken out of the book by the great church. That has reference to the 3rd watch that is still a future event.

I will be merciful unto the Gentiles in that day, insomuch that I will bring forth unto them, in mine own power, much of my gospel, which shall be plain and precious, saith the Lamb.

Lets recap what we have learned about the true chronology of when freedom and liberty are enjoyed in this great land.

The gentiles come forth from a state captivity from England into a state of political bondage in America.

After the rebellion, the great and abominable church continued to have dominion through secretive directives and political contracts through an insidious legal system and through a worldwide secret combination that can be traced by to the Jesuits and the Catholic Church.

Eventually, after the rebellion gives the inhabitants of America a false sense of freedom, a light breaks forth and the saints of the restoration receive and struggle to live the fulness of the gospel for a very short three and a half year period. Sadly, they  STUMBLE in their attempt at living the law of God and establishing Zion.

Finally, in the third watch, God is merciful to the gentiles and he brings forth in POWER, much of his gospel that is plain and precious. This leads to the establishment of Zion when true freedom and liberty are achieved.

The casual reader who views 1 Nephi 13 through the eyes of indoctrination from the teachings of the corporate LDS church will find it exceedingly difficult to see the true narrative.

Can you see it?

The final comment by this reader that I will address before continuing with the topic at hand it this:

Interestingly, a keyword search on ‘great’ and ‘abominable’ and ‘church’ gives several passages of scriptures to review:

1 Nephi 13-14
1 Nephi 22
2 Nephi 6
2 Nephi 28
D&C 29

 

It is critical to know who the great and abominable church is if one is going to understand the prophetic narrative in 1 Nephi 13 and 14 and related passages.

When Bruce R. McConkie first published his book Mormon Doctrine, he said this about the Great and Abominable Church of the Devil:

It is also to the Book of Mormon to which we turn for the plainest description of the Catholic Church as the great and abominable church. Nephi saw this ‘church which is the most abominable above all other churches’ in vision. He ‘saw the devil that he was the foundation of it’ and also the murders, wealth, harlotry, persecutions, and evil desires that historically have been a part of this satanic organization”

After studying this topic for many years I am also convinced that the Roman Catholic Church is being referred to in the Book of Mormon. Anyone familiar with the bizarre and brutal history of Catholicism and the reformation and the brutal inquisition can see who the Book of Mormon is referring to.

The first presidency of the church later required brother McConkie to alter the above definition since it was offensive to Catholics and it was simply not politically correct to make such an accusation about an existing worldwide church.

Nevertheless, his statement was true.

The Vatican, through the “Black Pope” and the Jesuits, have been conducting a global conspiracy to eslave the world since the emergenance of the dastardly order.

It is no coincidence that the latest Pope is a Jesuit. His emergence is a sign of the times.

If you study the Jewish banking empire and their many organizations deep enough, you will be led to the Vatican.

They were behind the assassination of Lincohn and Kennedy.

The army of Jesuits have infiltrated virtually every political and governmental organization in the world. They are the secret order behind virtually all secret orders. I have blogged about this before. Those who are interested in learning about the ancient trusts, treaties and contracts that are still in force, that bind the US would do well to do a Google and youtube keyword searchs on “Black Pope”, “Vatican assassins” and other similar words.

It is also helpful to study the research done by Judge Anna von Reitz to fully understand how ancient contracts are still in force that keep America in bondage as a nation.

Another reader of this blog named Jessi who has studied this topic extensively posted a fantastic comment which coincides with what I have written.

OK, now we can continue parsing the prophesies in the Book of Mormon regarding the exchatology of the Jews.

The next noteable section of scripture pertaining to the eschatology of the Jews is found in 1 Nephi 15. I will not copy the entire chapter in this blog. I encourage you to read the chapter and arrive at your own conclusions before continuing on in this post.

1 Nephi 15 reiterates important points about how the house of Israel including the seed of Lehi will be grafted back into the olive tree in the latter days through the fulness of the gentiles.

It is important to understand that the fulness of the Gentiles came in for a short period during Joseph Smith’s ministry and it will come in again when the third watch begins.

The angel Moroni told Joseph that it was about to come in during his ministry:

41 He also quoted the second chapter of Joel, from the twenty-eighth verse to the last. He also said that this was not yet fulfilled, but was soon to be. And he further stated that the fulness of the Gentiles was soon to come in. He quoted many other passages of scripture, and offered many explanations which cannot be mentioned here. Joseph Smith—History 1:41

In Section 45 we are informed that in the last generation when there are wars and rumors of wars, the times of the Gentiles will come in again:

26 And in that day shall be heard of wars and rumors of wars, and the whole earth shall be in commotion, and men’s hearts shall fail them, and they shall say that Christ delayeth his coming until the end of the earth.

27 And the love of men shall wax cold, and iniquity shall abound.

28 And when the times of the Gentiles is come in, a light shall break forth among them that sit in darkness, and it shall be the fulness of my gospel;

A contextual reading of verses 1 Nephi 15 18-20 informs us that the latter day Jews will be restored to a knowledge of the truth and be no more be confounded. They are clearly restored to the true church in America.

18 Wherefore, our father hath not spoken of our seed alone, but also of all the house of Israel, pointing to the covenant which should be fulfilled in the latter days; which covenant the Lord made to our father Abraham, saying: In thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

19 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, spake much unto them concerning these things; yea, I spake unto them concerning the restoration of the Jews in the latter days.

20 And I did rehearse unto them the words of Isaiah, who spake concerning the restoration of the Jews, or of the house of Israel; and after they were restored they should no more be confounded, neither should they be scattered again. And it came to pass that I did speak many words unto my brethren, that they were pacified and did humble themselves before the Lord.

Nothing in the above passages is referring to the Old World Jerusalem. When the Jews are finally restored and converted, they will be gathered to America. During this last restoration they will no longer be confounded.

It is obvious that the above restoration did not take place when God set his hand the first time to recover his people during Joseph Smith’s ministry. This is because the latter day Jews in the modern apostate church are still “confounded” and confused.

This provides yet another powerful scriptural evidence that the commonly accepted prophetic narrative about the unbelieving Ashkenazi Jews that have gathered to the Old World is false.

The next section about the Jews from the Book of Mormon to be parsed is 2 Nephi 9

Once again a contextual reading gives us another witness that the true Jews will be restored to the true church in the land of America in the latter days and that their land of inheritance is here in America NOT the Old World.

1 And now, my beloved brethren, I have read these things that ye might know concerning the covenants of the Lord that he has covenanted with all the house of Israel—

2 That he has spoken unto the Jews, by the mouth of his holy prophets, even from the beginning down, from generation to generation, until the time comes that they shall be restored to the true church and fold of God; when they shall be gathered home to the lands of their inheritance, and shall be established in all their lands of promise.

Incredible.

The above passage informs us that the true Jews are restored to the true church in the latter days and that it is the land where the true church is restored and headquartered that is the land of promise and inheritance of the Jews!

I you are new to this blog this is probably blowing your mind to find out that the real Jews of end times prophecy are found in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints. The Ashkenazi Jews in the Old World Jerusalem are imposters.

The is why the apostle John prophetically spoke of those who “say they are Jews but are not“:

9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the ablasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Revelation 2:9

9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. Revelation 3:9

Later in the Book of Revelation we hear about the two witnesses whose bodies will lie in the street after they have finished their testimonies. We have been brainwashed to think that this event takes place in the Old World Jerusalem but is that really what the prophecy states?

8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

America is the spiritual version of Sodom and Egypt in the end times. The term “also” means “again”, the second time.

All of the prophecies you have interpreted to be about the major end times events taking place in the Old World need to be revisited through the lens that is provided by the Book of Mormon.

The next passage in the Book of Mormon to be parsed is found in 2 Nephi 10 and it provides a is pretty brutal and sobering observation about an inner segment of the latter day saint demographic.

3 Wherefore, as I said unto you, it must needs be expedient that Christ—for in the last night the angel spake unto me that this should be his name—should come among the Jews, among those who are the more wicked part of the world; and they shall crucify him—for thus it behooveth our God, and there is none other nation on earth that would crucify their God. 2 Nephi 10:3,16

The Jews, as a collective group were so wicked that they rejected and crucified Christ.

As blood curdling as this may sound, the most wicked part of the inhabitants of this world that crucified Christ have descendants that are imbedded among the latter day saints. Some of these descendants would likely seek to crucify Christ again if he were to appear among the latter day saints in these latter days.

The literal descendants of the New Testament Jews have been recovered into the apostate latter day church and some of them have undoubtedly been strategically placed into high positions in both church and government . We have already addressed the topic of the blood curse that is passed down from generation to generation among the Jews.

Christ will once again be spiritually crucified in the third watch by those who sit in darkness, in Moses seat.

The Latter day Jews seek a False Messiah

The final chapter that we shall end this installment with is 2 Nephi 25 which interrelates with the wickedness of the Jews as documented in 2 Nephi 10.

This chapter has Nephi interpreting the words of Isaiah. He informs us that his people did not understand the words of Isaiah because “they know not concerning the manner of prophesying among the Jews“.

Nephi opted to not teach his people about the “manner” of the Jews because their works were of darkness

2 For I, Nephi, have not taught them many things concerning the manner of the Jews; for their works were works of darkness, and their doings were doings of abominations.

 This is consistent with 1 Nephi 10 which informs us that the Jews were among the most wicked people on this earth.

Nephi informs us that one does not need to understand the manner of the Jews in order to understand the prophesies of their prophets. One simply needs to have the spirit of prophecy:

 for because the words of Isaiah are not plain unto you, nevertheless they are plain unto all those that are filled with the spirit of prophecy.

Nephi then informs us that he is going to give his own prophecy about the forthcoming events having to do with the Jews:

7 But behold, I proceed with mine own prophecy, according to my plainness; in the which I know that no man can err; nevertheless, in the days that the prophecies of Isaiah shall be fulfilled men shall know of a surety, at the times when they shall come to pass.

According to Nephi, when the prophesies of Isaiah are finally fulfilled, men shall know of surety that prophecy is being fulfilled.

Once again we are reminded that there is a generational curse upon the wicked portion of the Jews which is why they continue to be destroyed from generation to generation.

9 And as one generation hath been destroyed among the Jews because of iniquity, even so have they been destroyed from generation to generation according to their iniquities; and never hath any of them been destroyed save it were foretold them by the prophets of the Lord.

God always foretells of their destruction through prophets.

Nephi will now prophesy what will become of the Jews over many generations, even into the latter days.

He begins explaining that the Jews had been destroyed and carried away captive into Babylon shortly after Lehi and his family warned the Jews and left Jerusalem.

10 Wherefore, it hath been told them concerning the destruction which should come upon them, immediately after my father left Jerusalem; nevertheless, they hardened their hearts; and according to my prophecy they have been destroyed, save it be those which are carried away captive into Babylon.

Nephi prophesies that the Jews will again return and possess the land of the Old World Jerusalem which was the land of their inheritance prior to the establishment of the New Covenant in the meridian of time:

11 And now this I speak because of the spirit which is in me. And notwithstanding they have been carried away they shall return again, and possess the land of Jerusalem; wherefore, they shall be restored again to the land of their inheritance.

After being restored to the Old World Jerusalem again in the meridian of time, the only begotten of the Father would manifest himself to them in the flesh and they would reject him and crucify him:

12 But, behold, they shall have wars, and rumors of wars; and when the day cometh that the Only Begotten of the Father, yea, even the Father of heaven and of earth, shall manifest himself unto them in the flesh, behold, they will reject him, because of their iniquities, and the hardness of their hearts, and the stiffness of their necks.

13 Behold, they will crucify him; and after he is laid in a sepulchre for the space of three days he shall rise from the dead, with healing in his wings; and all those who shall believe on his name shall be saved in the kingdom of God. Wherefore, my soul delighteth to prophesy concerning him, for I have seen his day, and my heart doth magnify his holy name.

After crucifying the Son of God in the meridian of time, Jerusalem will again be destroyed and the Jews shall once again be scattered among all nations:

14 And behold it shall come to pass that after the Messiah hath risen from the dead, and hath manifested himself unto his people, unto as many as will believe on his name, behold, Jerusalem shall be destroyed again; for wo unto them that fight against God and the people of his church.

15 Wherefore, the Jews shall be scattered among all nations; yea, and also Babylon shall be destroyed; wherefore, the Jews shall be scattered by other nations.

Nephi continues. Finally, in the latter days, the Jews will be PERSUADED  to believe in Christ (not converted). They begin to believe in Christ while they are in a scattered condition.

This is one of the most clear and irrefutable challenges to the commonly accepted narrative about the eschatology of the Jews which has the Jews still unbelieving even after beginning to gather.

16 And after they have been scattered, and the Lord God hath scourged them by other nations for the space of many generations, yea, even down from generation to generation until they shall be persuaded to believe in Christ, the Son of God, and the atonement, which is infinite for all mankind—

This brings us to the state of the latter day Jews relative to the Nauvoo era of the LDS restoration.

The Book of Mormon informs us that in the latter days the Jews will be restored to the true church. In the ultimate sense, the literal fulfillment of this prophecy is yet a future event. However, the shadow fulfillment has already taken place during the LDS restoration movement and Joseph Smith’s ministry.

Why is this not commonly understood?

Because God has covered the eyes of the apostate church.

Nevertheless, this restoration of the latter day Jews into the church is clearly documented in the scriptures and the history of the church.

Lets review it again briefly.

In 1836, the Gentile saints of the restored church had become condemned. In that state, they petitioned the Lord in the dedicatory prayer of the Kirtland Temple to redeem Jerusalem from that very hour.

The petition asked that the yoke of bondage to be removed from the house of David and for the children of Judah to begin returning to the lands of their inheritance.

62 We therefore ask thee to have mercy upon the children of Jacob, that Jerusalem, from this hour, may begin to be redeemed;

63 And the yoke of bondage may begin to be broken off from the house of David;

64 And the children of Judah may begin to return to the lands which thou didst give to Abraham, their father.

Shortly after that petition, Joseph Smith declared that the Lord had revealed to him that something new must be done for the salvation of the church and he began setting up foreign missions:

“In this state of things, and but a few weeks before the Twelve were expecting to meet in full quorum, (some of them having been absent for some time), God revealed to me that something new must be done for the salvation of His Church.

And on or about the first of June, 1837, Heber C. Kimball, one of the Twelve, was set apart by the spirit of prophecy and revelation, prayer and laying on of hands, of the First Presidency, to preside over a mission to England, to be the first foreign mission of the Church of Christ in the last days.” (History of the Church, 2:489)

In conjunction with this new directive, section 118 was received commissioning the quorum of the Twelve Apostles and other missionaries under their direction to promulgate the gospel “over the great waters“.

Verily, thus saith the Lord: Let a conference be held immediately; let the Twelve be organized; and let men be appointed to supply the place of those who are fallen… And next spring let them depart to go over the great waters, and there promulgate my gospel, the fulness thereof, and bear record of my name. (LDS D&C 118)

We learn from the testimony of Joseph Smith that the tribal identity of new converts  from this second great wave of missionary work and the converts coming from across the great waters represented those who are, in the words of Isaiah, the “outcasts of Israel” and the “dispersed of Judah“.

“If there is anything calculated to interest the mind of the Saints, to awaken in them the finest sensibilities, and arouse them to enterprise and exertion, surely it is the great and precious promises made by our heavenly Father to the children of Abraham; and those engaged in seeking the outcasts of Israel, and the dispersed of Judah, cannot fail to enjoy the Spirit of the Lord and have the choicest blessings of Heaven rest upon them in copious effusions.” (Joseph Smith Jr., Discourses of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 195.  see also Isaiah 11:12-13)

As you can see, Joseph Smith himself identified the converts that were flowing into Nauvoo as the “outcasts of Israel” and the “dispersed of Judah“!

Although the scriptures that came forth through the prophet Joseph Smith were very clear about the fact that all twelve tribes of Israel are to gather to the promised land of America in the latter days, Orson Hyde, bless his heart, was still very confused about who the real Jews were and where they should gather. For this reason, he wrote to Joseph Smith while on his mission and asked for clarification about where the Jews were to gather.

Joseph’s response was that the Jews were to gather to America:

“We had a letter from Elder Hyde, a few days ago, who is in New Jersey, and is expecting to leave for England as soon as Elder Page reaches him. He requested to know if converted Jews are to go to Jerusalem or to come to Zion. I therefore wish you to inform him that converted Jews must come here.” (HC 4:231 approx October 1840)

As you can see, the restoration of the Jews to the lands of their inheritance began in the late 1830’s not in the 1940’s and they were gathering to the promised land of America, not the Old World Jerusalem.

It is well documented in the history of the church. It simply has not been acknowledged and understood because there is a spirit of deep sleep upon the apostate church.

When reading the narrative in 2 Nephi 25, it is very important to disregard uninspired punctuation and identify where the true paragraphs begin and end. The printers manuscript of the Book of Mormon had no punctuation in it. It was a non member of the church that inserted punctuation.

“When the day shall come” following the generation when the Jews are PERSUADED  to believe in Christ, (after their pain- see D&C 133: 35) they shall finally worship the Father in Christ’s name name with pure hearts and clean hands.

and when that day shall come that they shall believe in Christ, and worship the Father in his name, with pure hearts and clean hands,

Ok, I hope you are sitting down because Nephi who is carried away in the spirit of prophecy is about to reveal something about the state of the latter day saint Jews.

What he is going to reveal takes place just BEFORE the day when they finally worship the Father with pure hearts and clean hands.

In other words, he is speaking about the latter day saints right now.

and look not forward any more for another Messiah

What the hell?

What is it that the latter day saint Jews are doing during this time when they are only PERSUADED  to believe in Christ, prior to the ushering in of the dispensation of the fulness of times in the 3rd watch?

They are looking for a false Messiah!

Why is it just the latter day saint Jews who are looking for a false Messiah?

Why aren’t the gentile Christians just a guilty of looking for a false Messiah?

Remember, the scriptures reveal two types of Christians during our time of worldwide apostasy.

One segment of modern Christianity is composed of Gentile Christians who are primarily Protestants and Catholics.

The other segment is composed of Jewish Christians who are largely associated with the Latter day Saints and related factions.

Nephi is differentiating the latter day saint Jews from the Protestants and Catholic gentiles.

I believe the point that is being made is that the latter day Saint Jews have a false dogma regarding Christ that opens them up to deception by a false Christ.

Again, this false dogma is what differentiates the Latter day Saint Jews from gentile Christians and it opens them up to being deceived by a false Messiah.

This dogma causes them to look for a false Messiah in a sense that the rest of Gentile Christianity does not.

What is this dogma?

It is the “second comforter” dogma that originated from passages in the New Testament which were correctly interpreted by Joseph Smith.

According to Joseph Smith, the elect of God who proved themselves worthy, could obtain a personal visitation from Christ declaring them to have their calling and election made sure. This “calling and election” carries with it the promise of eternal life and continues visitations from the Savior and the Father as they continue to teach them the mysteries.

Here is what Joseph Smith taught about this amazing topic

After a person has faith in Christ, repents of his sins, and is baptized for the remission of his sins and receives the Holy Ghost (by the laying on of hands), which is the first Comforter, then let him continue to humble himself before God, hungering and thirsting after righteousness, and living by every word of God, and the Lord will soon say unto him, Son, thou shalt be exalted.

When the Lord has thoroughly proved him, and finds that the man is determined to serve Him at all hazards, then the man will find his calling and his election made sure, then it will be his privilege to receive the other Comforter, which the Lord hath promised the Saints, as is recorded in the testimony of St. John, in the 14th chapter, from the 12th to the 27th verses….

Now what is this other Comforter? It is no more nor less than the Lord Jesus Christ Himself; …when any man obtains this last Comforter, he will have the personage of Jesus Christ to attend him, or appear unto him from time to time, and even He will manifest the Father unto him, and they will take up their abode with him, and the visions of the heavens will be opened unto him, and the Lord will teach him face to face, and he may have a perfect knowledge of the mysteries of the Kingdom of God; and this is the state and place the ancient Saints arrived at when they had such glorious visions-Isaiah, Ezekiel, John upon the Isle of Patmos, St. Paul in the three heavens, and all the Saints who held communion with the general assembly and Church of the First Born [TPJS, pp. 150-51].

As you can see. The pattern and chronology of this process is very clear. First the candidate must exercise faith, repent and be baptized by the proper authority (which is not currently on the earth at this time)

Then they must receive the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands by the proper authority (which is not currently on the earth at this time)

Then they must prove themselves by “hungering and thirsting after righteousness, and living by every word of God”

Living by every word of God would include living the law of God as described in Section 42 and obtaining the highest priesthood as declared in Section 84.

Also, Lectures on Faith proclaims that one must sacrifice ALL THINGS in the process of obtaining one’s ultimate salvation in the highest kingdom.

After being sealed up to eternal life by the Father, the blessing of the Second Comforter FOLLOWS.

Only after God has personally declared the candidate worthy and sealed them up to eternal life would a person ever qualify for the “Second Comforter”.

This doctrinal interpretation by Joseph Smith was true and it is not understood by protestant Christianity.

HOWEVER the true doctrine that is revealed in scripture and correctly interpreted by Joseph Smith, only applies when the fulness of the gospel is on the earth and the heavens are open. It does not apply when the saints are rejected as a church with their dead.

We are living during a time when the heavens have been sealed. We live during the  “little season” of apostasy which is mentioned in Sections 101, 103, and 105..

After the saints of the restoration stumbled and rejected the fulness, their minds were blinded and they were unaware that they fulness had been taken.

There is not a mortal man upon the face of the earth that can possibly qualify to have his calling and election made sure at this time when we have been rejected as a church. Hence, there is not a mortal man upon the face of the earth who has received the promise of the Second Comforter.

People living right now who are claiming that they have entered into the presence of God to speak with him face to face, or that claim that they have received their calling and election, or that claim that they have received the Second Comforter (which can only take place AFTER one obtains their calling and election) are either liars, or they suffer from delusions of grandeur, or they  HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN VISITED BY AND DECIEVED A FALSE MESSIAH in fulfillment of the prophecy given in the Book of Mormon.

When the Jews began being reclaimed and gathered to America into the restored but rejected church, they falsely assumed that the fulness of the gospel was still among the saints. Hence, the Jews of the apostate church  have this false tradition and teaching that they can enjoy a personal audience with Christ during this time of hidden darkness.

What they fail to realize is that the Lord has temporarily rejected the saints with their dead because they rejected the fulness of the gospel.

Nobody is enjoying the true second comforter at this time. It will not begin happening again until the appointed time when the servants return back to the vineyard and restore the scattered Jews from their lost and fallen state.

This is how a pure and simple truth from the restoration has morphed into a damnable heresy that damns the souls of men and turns them over to a false Christ that makes an appearance to some and leads their souls to destruction.

It is this false hope of seeing Christ while in a state of darkness and apostasy that has created so many heretical fringe groups that have broken away from the mainstream corporate church.

Mormonism has a long history of fanatics who begin striving to exercise the false signs and tokens and “true order of prayer” on the mountain tops and in the secret chambers that they learned from the Satanic Masonic Temple endowment.

The great missionary work to the Jews that began during the Nauvoo era was the “first” time” that God began to restore his people after they had been scattered during New Testament times.

Nephi speaks of the “second time” that the Lord will restore his lost and fallen people when the marvelous work and a wonder begins:

17 And the Lord will set his hand again the second time to restore his people from their lost and fallen state. Wherefore, he will proceed to do a marvelous work and a wonder among the children of men.

It is when the marvelous work begins that the words will come forth that will finally convince the Jews of the true Messiah who has been rejected by them! Prior to this convincing, the Jews were only persuaded to believe.

Nephi acknowledges that these latter day saint Jews will have been seeking a false Messiah. He observes that they will have been deceived by the false Messiah prior to the beginning of the Marvelous Work and a Wonder.

We have previously noted that the Latter day Saint leaders teach of a mortal messiah instead of the one mentioned in the book of Mormon that did not offer himself as a human sacrifice. Rather he was God in the flesh who offered an infinite and eternal sacrifice.

The good news is that when the Marvelous Work and a Wonder begins, God’s word will come forth for the last time in purity and it will judge them at the last day. At this time, the repentant portion of the Jews will become CONVERTED to the TRUE MESSIAH.

18 Wherefore, he shall bring forth his words unto them, which words shall judge them at the last day, for they shall be given them for the purpose of convincing them of the true Messiah, who was rejected by them; and unto the convincing of them that they need not look forward any more for a Messiah to come, for there should not any come, save it should be a false Messiah which should deceive the people; for there is save one Messiah spoken of by the prophets, and that Messiah is he who should be rejected of the Jews.

These prophesies from Nephi place a spotlight of understanding on why the current “remnant movement“, both those inside the LDS church and those who are outside of the corporate church, are seeking a second comforter experience.

Sadly, the have been deceived.

This seeking that they are doing can only deliver them up to darkness and possibly a visitation with a false Christ. IMO those that are promoting this heresy and encouraging people to seek an audience with Christ despite being in a state of apostacy during the “little season” are among the false teachers and false prophets that Christ warned us about.

As you can see, the scriptural and historical evidence is overwhelming showing that God has already set his hand the “first time” to reclaim his people the Jews in the latter days.

It began in the 1840’s. They have begun gathering to America and have been given a KNOWEDGE of the fulness of the gospel in the form of the Book of Mormon.

Shortly after coming to the church in America, they became scattered into “Stakes” throughout the world.

When the marvelous work begins God will “set his hand the second time“.

If the spirit has testified to your soul that the general concept spoken of in this post is true, please don’t go running around proclaiming that the real Jews of latter day prophecy are the latter day saints.

Very few people will believe you and you will be hated for what you are saying.

It is not according to the providence of God that the masses should understand this cryptic information.

If you are relatively new to this blog, you may be curled up in the fetal position crying like a little baby because your whole paradigm has been demolished.

But ultimately the prophecies about the Jews in the Book of Mormon have a happy ending that follows the pain that they will go through.

Please understand, I am not saying that all Latter day Saints are from Judah. Only a portion of them.

I am not saying that everyone from Judah is evil.

We know from the Book of Revelation that 12,000 from Judah will be numbered among the 144,000.

Lets wrap things up for installment three.

Ok, in previous parts of this series we parsed 1 Nephi 10 and 1 Nephi 13 which also led us to 2 Nephi 3

In this segment of the series we have parsed 1 Nephi 15, 2 Nephi 9, 2 nephi 10, and 2 nephi 25

We now have even more clarity about the true eschatology of the true Jews in the latter days. We will now merge the bullet point summarys that we created in the previous post with the additional and corresponding information that we have covered in this post.

I think you will find that it obliterates the false eschatology that is currently promoted by apostate christianity. (Events pertaining to the Gentiles are only provided for context regarding the eschatology of the Jews)

 

  • After the Jews and the great city of Jerusalem are destroyed in Old Testament times, many Jews would be “carried away captive into Babylon“.
  • Eventually the Jews would be brought back out of captivity to once again possess the land of their inheritance in the Old World Jerusalem.
  • After being gathered back to the Old World Jerusalem the Lord God would raise up the true Messiah among the Jews
  • After the gospel would be preached among the Jews by the Messiah, they would dwindle in unbelief and slay him and become scattered again.
  • After they slay the Messiah, he would be raised from the dead and make himself manifest to the gentiles by the Holy Ghost.
  • After the Jews (house of Israel) are scattered following the crucifixion in the meridian of time, they will be gathered again in the latter days to America (see verse 13) AFTER the Gentiles had received the fulness of the gospel.
  • In the latter days, before the Jews begin to gather to America, the Gentiles go forth out of captivity upon the many waters to the “land of promise” in America.
  • The Book of the Lamb of God that proceeded forth out of the mouth of a Jew was carried among the Gentiles to the land of promise. It was a “record of the Jews“.
  • When the book first came forth, it went forth from the Jews to the Gentiles in purity and contained the fulness of the Gospel of whom the 12 apostles bear record.
  • After the book went forth, the great church corrupted the bookand have taken many plain and precious parts of the gospel of the Lamb and many covenants.
  • The Gentiles that came forth out of captivity to America would be given power over the seed of Lehi whose ancestors had hidden up many plain and precious things to come forth to the Gentiles by the power of the Holy Ghost, (including the Book of the Lamb of God).
  • Nevertheless, the Gentiles would remain in darkness and a form of hidden bondage after coming to America
  • Eventually the Gentiles would temporarily “stumble” (during Joseph Smith’s ministry) because of the plain and precious parts of the gospel that had been taken out of the Book of the Lamb and their failure to serve God and keep his commandments.
  • During this general timeframe the Jews, in their scattered condition BEGIN to be PERSUADED to believe in Christ.
  • During the time that the Gentiles stumble, God would set his hand the first time to reclaim his scattered people. The knowledge of the fulness of the gospel would be taken to the “dispersed of Judah” and they would begin flowing into Nauvoo and eventually to Utah.
  • During this time of global apostacy the Jewish Christians of the LDS restoration will be seeking a false Christ (Messiah). The advent of the “remnant” groups that focus on the bastardized “Second Comforter”  dogma is a very important sign of the times.
  • When the third watch begins, the Lord’s servants will return to the vineyard and bring forth the Book of the Lamb of God and the many plain and precious things that had been hidden up in the plates that Joseph had to return to Moroni. 
  • The Book of the Lamb of God would be among the many plain and precious things that are hidden up by the seed of Lehi. It would be taken in its purity to the seed of Lehi and the Latter day Saint Jews by the Gentiles servants of God that return to the vineyard.
  • After the Book of the Lamb of God that had been hid up in its purity comes forth to the Gentiles by the power of the Holy Ghost and goes forth to the Jews and seed of Lehi, “other books” would come forth.
  • These “other books” would convince the Gentiles, the Seed of Lehi and the Jews that are once again scattered upon the face of the earth of the truthfulness of the records of the prophets and the Twelve apostles and of the gospel of Christ.

Next installment we will keep plugging along, parsing every significant Book of Mormon prophecy having to do with the eschatology of the Jews.

Do you still believe that the gathering of the Ashkenazi Jews to the Old World Jerusalem in recent times is in fulfillment of scriptural prophecy?

Do you put the United Nations General Assembly, in its decision making process on United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine, and the adopting of the decision to create a Jewish State for Ashkenazi Jews (who are not even literal descendants of the house of Israel) to have more prophetic clout than Section 109 of the Doctrine and Covenants?

If you do, I have a really nice looking bridge in the middle of the desert to sell you.

More to come.

Keep Watching

 

 

 

18 Responses to A Review of What the Book of Mormon Tells us about the Latter day Jews: Part 3

  1. Jose Perez says:

    Being a book of Mormon believer for fifty years i had been wrestling with some issues in the book of Mormon that has caused me to take the red pill of blind justice. Always finding an excuse to apologize and overlook an issue or building up around an issue to develop the truth that i was seeking for in a verse in the Book of Mormon, even though the verse was saying something different than the way I wanted it to believe it was saying, still I was wresting the verse to make it interpret my way of thinking and thus seems to be in contrary to the verse, yet living in denial, i would continue down this path of pretending the verse was saying something else other than what it was really saying until, i hit something i could not understand the meaning of why it was that way.
    It first happened with the idea that the Book of Mormon is the most correct book and that in the translation of the book of Mormon it would be impossible for the scribe to write a word or verse different than what was being translated through the seer stone in Joseph Smith’s hat. Obviously, the face in the hat and the stone glowing the words in English and Joseph Smith did not need the plates in front of him while translating was all a new concept of being a seer to me, as i had always believed Joseph Smith used the urim and thumin on the gold plates behind a curtain. But besides the recent story changing because of the law suit the issue still stands that the seer stone would not let Joseph Smith proceed unless he got the words right. So I was stuck with this dilemma in my belief system about the Lords prayer mentioned in 3 Nephi 13:13 says (…For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.) In Luke 11:2 to 4 this verse does not exist, but in Matthew 6:13 this verse was added into the passage of scripture by the church of England translators of the King James Bible. And the reason why they added this verse was because at the time the Puritans believed that England was prophesied in the Book of Daniel and called the kingdom of England after established by King Henry VIII as the fifth monarchy. This fifth monarchy idea came about because the Fifth Monarchists saw themselves as those saints of that soon to be dawning millennium. Their name from a prophecy in the Book of Daniel that four ancient monarchies (Babylonian, Persian, Macedonian, and Roman) would precede the kingdom of Christ. Thus, the Puritans declared the kingdom of England as the stone that is cut out of the mountain without hands that would collect all the nations of the earth so it would be said the sun never set on the British empire. The translation of the king James bible was a political agenda to justify war against the Roman Catholic monarchies. This is why in the ancient Catholic versions of both books of Luke and Matthew it never says the words, “…For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever. Amen.” Well now we can see that their arrogance and false interpretation of Daniel chapter 2 verses 43 to 45 and verse 44 was to be the church of England and the fifth protestant Monarchy to take over all the Catholic monarchies as it says in this verse, 44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. But obviously this is not what happened the iron and miry clay of the ten toes are still here and England has lost most of its power since the US Constitution was born in 1776 and now the super power USA is forcing the anti-monarchy, New World Order agenda on Europe. Even though its hanging by a thread according to those white horse prophecy followers like Mitt Romney. Now the LDS church claims they are the stone that’s cut out of the mountain and that they are the fifth kingdom mentioned by Daniel 2 verse 43 to 45, so if that is true this is a fulfilment of the prophecy of the last days and third Nephi was written around 34 years after the birth of Christ which is nearly 1800 years ago plus the Nephite kingdom was destroyed completely with the last remaining Nephite Moroni being the last survivor around 400 years after Christ. So this verse regarding the last kingdom on earth should not have been put into their 3 Nephi has no right or reason to be there “…For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever. Amen.” especially when we realize it was invented by the British for a political agenda and not for the truth. How could you ever explain this? If Joseph Smith was forbidden to write anything that was not said through the seer stone in his hat. How could the seer stone overlook such a passage that is so wrong in every level of trying to make an excuse. This is check mate. I can’t justify any reason for adding this corrupt verse to the most correct book divinely translated by the seer’s stone. The other issue that was causing me to war with my conscience of denial was the names Moroni and Cumorah. The Book of Mormon mentions also another person by the name of Captain Moroni. The problem is Captain Kidd buried a gold treasure in the Island Comoras Island in the city of Moroni. And the legend of his gold treasure is that the dead pirate’s spirit guards the golden treasure day and night from anyone trying to find it. Now what are the chances that the Book of Mormon gold plates were guarded by the spirit of a dead Nephite with the name of Moroni in the hill of Cumorah? Captain Kidd verses Captain Moroni made leader over the Nephite army. Smith created the name “Cumorah” through his study of the treasure-hunting stories of Captain William Kidd, because Kidd was said to have buried treasure in the Comoros islands (known by the Arabic name, Camora, prior to being occupied by the French in 1841). Previous to announcing his discovery of the Book of Mormon, Smith had spent several years employed as a treasure seeker. Since the 1830 edition of the Book of Mormon printed the name “Cumorah” as “Camorah,” it has been suggested that Smith used the name of the islands and applied it to the hill where he found buried treasure—the golden plates. I had tried again and again to overlook this by saying that Joseph Smith really did not know Moroni’s name because the mother of Joseph Smith said it was Nephi that was appearing to Joseph Smith and not Moroni, but this just makes more confusion because of the translation process of the book of Mormon Moroni’s name is mentioned too many times and the seer stone is infallible it cannot produce errors like a whole book named after him the book of Moroni for goodness sake. the fact of the matter is Captain Kidd was famous pirate story in the days of Joseph Smith so he never thought with today’s technology of search engines like google search could pin point information with no effort in finding this info from other old fashioned costly and timely sources. But still I lived in denial and still believed that the book of Mormon was true until one day I watched a series of videos by an anthropologist who wrote a thesis on the information gathered from LDS historians and his thesis opened my eyes about the way the gold plates were taken to the Smith home. I was distraught because his evidence kept making too much sense and I couldn’t deny it anymore.

    • I am going to post your remarks even though they do not really address the topic content of the blog and even though you have apparently failed to see the mystical testimony of truth embedded within the intricate and interwoven matching of church history with the prophecies in the Book of Mormon, the interpretation of which was apparently never acknowledged during Joseph’s ministry or since, until now.

      There are undoubtedly answers to your questions that have or will come forth.

      While you are waiting for them, I would suggest that you focus on the remarkable matching narratives between modern and ancient revelation (backed up by church history) that no man or group of men could possibly have conceived and fabricated.

      You fail to see the ineffable signature of God’s hand in the narratives that have been addressed

  2. JN says:

    Love this series, thanks!

    Fascinating that you bring up the book of the Lamb as I’ve been doing a lot of searching on this in relation with all the records that are promised to come forth during the third watch. Do you think that when the book of the Lamb comes forth again the brass plates may be a contributing piece of the book? Or do the brass plates come forth separately? The brass plates were “the record of the jews” (1 Ne 3:3) Lehi prophesied that they would go forth to his seed. A key word search on “plates of brass” will show the following interesting points:

    Plates of Brass

    • Are “The record of the jews” (1 Ne 3:3)
    • Contain the Law. (1 Ne 4:16)
    • Contain the Five books of Moses (1 Ne 5)
    • Full account of the creation of the world
    • Contain a record of the jews from the beginning down to Jeremiah (1 Ne 5, Omni 1:14)
    • Contain prophecies of all Holy Prophets from the beginning down to reign of Zedekiah
    • Contain full genealogy
    • Will go forth unto all nations, kindred, tongues, and people who are of the seed of Lehi. Never to perish, be dimmed by time. (1 Ne 5)
    • Are similar to the original book of the Lamb before it went through the great and abominable church. Brass plates contained more (1 Ne 13:23)
    • Contain the great prophecies by Joseph of Egypt, “not many greater” (2 Ne 4:2)
    • Contain the mysteries of God!!! (Mosiah 1:3)
    • Kept and preserved until they go forth unto every nation, kindred, tongue, and people (not just seed of Lehi) (Alma 37)
    • Convinced many of their errors and brought them to the knowledge of their God (Alma 37)
    • Convinced many thousands of the Lamanites and brought them to repentance,
    • Will be the means of bringing many thousands to the knowledge of their Redeemer (Alma 37)
    • Are preserved for a wise purpose and wisdom in God

    A keyword search on that last point “wisdom”, will show it is often associated with the brass plates and the third watch events, which may link them to the record that Joseph and the Spokesman will bring forth later (2 Ne 3, 2 Ne 27). And to the full Nephite record 3 Ne. 26:3, 29:1, Mormon 5, Ether 5, 8, and Moroni 10.

    What do you think?

  3. “Do you think that when the book of the Lamb comes forth again the brass plates may be a contributing piece of the book? Or do the brass plates come forth separately? The brass plates were “the record of the jews” (1 Ne 3:3) Lehi prophesied that they would go forth to his seed.”

    WOW your keyword search makes for a pretty compelling case for the Book of the Lamb of God coming forth out of the brass plates.

    Thank you for sharing!!

    • Jose Perez says:

      thank you for letting my post stay on your blog. God bless you brother for your testimony. I would like to share with you that one of my wrestles I have had is regarding the book of the lamb mentioned in the Book of Mormon. Maybe you can clear this issue up but i am not from the USA so it never was an issue why there was a need to have a democracy and not a king on this land. But the book of the lamb is a big issue to me for the simple reason that there was never a book until Martin Luther created in the first bible with the new printing press translated in German? what i means is the scrolls were in ancient Latin and Greek and the Roman monks and Catholic priests were the only people that read from those ancient papyrus to their Catholic congregations. There were never verses or chapters just straight texts and the texts were read in Latin and interpreted to the members of the Catholic church in Spanish Greek and Italian.The Catholic priests and monks were carrying on a tradition that goes back to the ancient Jewish Rabbis who did the same by keeping only ancient scrolls with no verses or chapters. Even Christ who was obviously recognised as a Rabbi when he went into the synagogue to read from the ancient scrolls of the Torah in Isaiah he had to respect the Hebrew tradition that the Rabbis order and method of reading the Torah scroll. It is also important to note that according to the Jewish traditions if the Torah was slightly damaged by water then the Rabbi ordered for a new version written and the other was destroyed so they could preserve the ancient writings in the original text.What got my attention to the book of the lamb mentioned in the book of Mormon was a comment made by the son of Gordon B. Hinckley. He mentioned that there is no reference in the book of Mormon of Martin Luther or the founding fathers like George Washington. The only reference in the book of Mormon is of Christopher Columbus and yet both men Martin Luther and George Washington would change the world forever.This statement made by Clarke B. Hinckley is found in this link at https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865612887/Author-Clark-B-Hinckley-writes-book-about-Christopher-Columbus-with-LDS-angle.html so then I was thinking about Christopher Colombus and how the Book of Mormon has made him sound as if he was a prophet. Which I now believe Christopher Columbus was a prophet of God he wrote the Book of Prophesies that Clarke B. Hinckley refers to in his book.The thing is though Christopher Columbus was a devout Catholic (not a protestant) and Christopher Columbus never gave up his faith. He believed when he arrived in Panama in April the 6th 1502 that the indigenous were the remnants of the lost tribes of Israel.And Panama was the Garden of Eden finally discovered. So there are many things that Joseph Smith said that was mentioned by Christopher Columbus.so in the end the question must be was this book of lamb a bible a bible we already have a bible referring to Martin Luther’s first translation or King James version? because the Catholic church were not the inventors of the printing press to publish bibles in the native tongues of anyone. The dark ages was the period of time that only Monks and priests were aloud to read the ancient Latin texts written on ancient papyrus in scrolls.so who really changed the bible and changed the precious and plain things in the bible?it could not have been the Catholics because they were sold a publication of a bible by the Protestants.and the protestants were the ones guilty of removing many book such as the apocrypha. What most people don’ t know is if it wasn’t for the apocrypha Christopher Columbus would not have went to seek for the the Americas and discover them because in the apocrypha Christopher Columbus found passages that prophesied and mentioned that the lost ten tribes of Israel were sent to the land where the garden of Eden was and that no one had inhabited the land and that God sent the lost tribes of Israel so they could be alone and not worship pagan Gods influenced by other nations.I am referring to Apocrypha (2 Esdras 6:42) also the Apocrypha mentions Nephi and Laban.so who is the great and spacious building and who is the great an abominable church?

      • Jose

        You bring up some really important and fascinating observations.

        I have come to realize that God can and does work through everyone regardless of where they are in their trajectory and learning curve of understanding truth, what aspect of institutionalize religion they may be participating in.

        Christopher Columbus was indeed very inspired and those that read his journal will realize that he was motivated by a higher force. He was truly inspired by God, nevertheless, he was human and prideful and perhaps even greedy. Things are not always black and white. Even Joseph Smith was tempted to sell the plates for gain. It is the human condition.

        You said:

        “But the book of the lamb is a big issue to me for the simple reason that there was never a book until Martin Luther created in the first bible with the new printing press translated in German? what i means is the scrolls were in ancient Latin and Greek and the Roman monks and Catholic priests were the only people that read from those ancient papyrus to their Catholic congregations.”

        I think you are imposing your modern definition of “book” into the ancient scriptures. The truth is that the content written on scrolls (or even metal plates in some circumstances) were still considered “books” in the eyes of ancient prophets. You need to allow for much broader definitions when viewing this topic and the process of translation, which does not always mean what people suppose.

        I would also refer you to a recent post of mine wherein I point out that Joseph Smith was not doing a literal translation from one language to another, rather, God was providing an inspired INTERPRETATION of what was said in another language. That is why king James english shows up in the Book of Mormon even though it obviously was not spoken by the Nephites. Why couldn’t a similar variation be the case in previous scribal recordings and translations of the ancient writings?

        Also, even if your assumption that the “book” was created by the Protestants is true, it is not a valid concern because the Protestants were still part of the great church. The scriptures are very clear about the fact that EVERYONE in the latter days is in apostasy. The Catholic Church is the WHORE, the Protestants are the HARLOTS that are spawned from the WHORE, and the remnants of the restored church are the UNFAITHFUL ADULTOROUS WIFE who has committed adultry with the WHORE and partaken of the cup of Babylon. Until the truth and power of the Gospel is returned to the earth, We are all part of the Great and Abominable Church.

        In direct answer to your question, the great and spacious building is the WORLD. (and Satan is the God of this world.)

        So even if your contention is true that the “book” came from the Protestants, it still comes through the hands of the great and abominable church in the sense that the Protestants got their source material from the Catholic Church AND the Protestants were simply an arm of the Catholic Church dispite their failed attempt to return to a pure form of New Testament Christianity.

        You said:

        “There were never verses or chapters just straight texts and the texts”

        That is exactly right and the addition of verses is clearly an abomination in my opinion because they often create the wrong inflection of the true meaning. That is why I try to read scripture without regard to punctuation and I try to let the spirit reveal the proper intent.

        We have the same problem with the Book of Mormon. The oringinal manuscript taken to the printer was one long continuous sentence. It was the printer that added punctuation and versification which often corrupts and obscures the true meaning of what was being said. That is why I pointed out in my last post that you need to know when to reject the incorrect verseification and chapter breaks.

      • Jose Perez says:

        Love this blog it is really open to explaining points that normally are rejected by FAIR. God bless you for having the charity and patience to want to answer some of these deep questions. you made a point about which i have never heard a Mormon say before you said,…”Then the “mother gentiles” gather against them. That is referring to the great future invasion of America that will take place just as the servants are gathering the elect to Zion.” wow that is interesting. This is why i have been wrestling with the Book of Mormon because the Latter Day saints will normally say the mother of harlots is referring to England empire and King George III and the declaration of independence 1776, but what you are saying it is a future event instead!!! again wow.
        you see i cannot understand why God would not want his kings to rule the Americas because from 1502 till 1770 there were three kingdoms on the Americas. Christopher Columbus came with the crown of Spain to rule new Spain which was the majority of the Americas and each territory had a royal governor and the French monarchy ruled from north Canada Montreal to Ohio all the way down to Louisiana in all the middle territories of America it was called new France of America and the East coast was ruled by the monarchy of England it was called new England the 13 colonies before the American revolution. so why would God say there should not be a king on the promised land when he sent kings to conquer the Americas? Christopher Columbus did nothing that was not inspired of God to do. For example all these new age wanna be leftists liberals that sympathise with gay marriage hate Christopher Columbus and the Spanish inquisition but if it was not for the Spanish Inquisition there would not be Christianity because the Muslims were taking over the world. There are only two men in this world that have made so much change to the earth and influenced for the good after Moses and one is Jesus Christ and the other is Christopher Columbus. If it wasn’t for Christopher Columbus the lost tribes of the house of Israel would never have been discovered living in the Americas and look at the amazing things that have occurred since Christopher Columbus discovered the Americas.Then in The old Testament it says very clearly that if Israel does not obey the commandments then God will send a foreign nation with a different language that they will not understand the language and these foreign nations will invade Israel and take them hostage as slaves and they will suffer fever and red itching on the skin( sounds like small pox) and they shall carry away all the treasures of Israel which is gold in the hills of Ephraim. Christopher Columbus was not greedy he was commissioned by the crown of Spain to collect the spoils of war and return the gold for the crusade to redeem Israel from the Muslims.And it clearly says that the gentiles Kings and Queens shall raise up the house of Israel upon their shoulders and the gentiles kings and queens shall be nursing mothers and fathers. 49:23 Kings and Queens Nursing Fathers and Mothers

        Isaiah 49:23
        23 And kings shall be thy nursing fathers, and their queens thy nursing mothers: they shall bow down to thee with their face toward the earth, and lick up the dust of thy feet; and thou shalt know that I am the Lord: for they shall not be ashamed that wait for me.
        1. Who are these kings and queens?
        They are the Spanish empire and roman empire render unto Caesar of the gentile n monarchies who will facilitate the gathering of the new Jerusalem in panama the lands of their inheritance ( Zion).

        2. Who will they nurse?
        The lost ten tribes of Israel that Christopher Columbus discovered in the Americas(by facilitating the return of the house of Israel after the 666 beast mystery Babylon super power of the earth steals their lands for oil and uranium and plutonium, then will God remember his covenant which he had made in Romans 11 verses 25 to 27 to restore the lands of their inheritance from the drug cartel mafias ruled by the FBI and CIA casino owners.)

        3. Who will bow down and lick up the dust of whose feet?
        The kings and queens of the royal Roman empire monarchies of the gentiles that unite with the great beast mystery Babylon the super power of the earth that has robbed all the natural resources for the industrial military complex corporations and who fight against the house of Israel in the new Jerusalem in Zion will lick up the dust of the feet of the repentant remnant of Jacob indigenous who unite with the church of the Lamb with the 144,000 elders of Israel from the lost tribes of the remnant of Jacob and who dwell in Zion.

        4. When will these things happen?
        When the gentiles times is fulfilled according to Romans 11 verse 25 to 26 then will the house of Israel in the Americas wake up and know they are the elect of God and then the gringos gentiles will be like sheep amoungst the lions if the house of Israel go through they will tear into pieces all the gringos of the mark of the beast 666. In those days the seven years tribulations begin after the 70 times seven which calculates to 490 years and that begins in on the year 1531 at the battle of Kappel. When the abomination of desolation is set up by the anti-christ that defiles the holy city of Jerusalem by establishing the mafia casino owners of the Masonic embassy in the place it should not be established.

        The question is has all these things already happened and are we gentiles to number ourselves with the house of Israel when they establish a New Jerusalem? Has the verses in 3 Nephi 16 verses 10 to 16 already been fulfilled or must they be fulfilled? do Mormon gentiles gringos classify themselves worthy to be numbered among the lions?or is it greater the light greater the condemnation salt has lost its savor: according to Signey Rigdon’s salt address on the fourth of July 1838 in Far West Missouri, when the lightning bolt hit the american flag pole and destroyed the flag and Joseph Smith walked around the flag pole and quoted the words of Doctrine and Covenants section 123 verses 7 to 11.
        another question i have why are the two tribes Ephraim and Dan left out of the house of Israel in the book of revelations chapter 7 and chapter 14? is it because both have sinned against God that God will rejected them? according to Hosea chapter 9 verses 7 to 17.

      • Christopher Columbus did nothing that was not inspired of God to do. Christopher Columbus was not greedy he was commissioned by the crown of Spain to collect the spoils of war and return the gold for the crusade to redeem Israel from the Muslims.

        I beg to differ

        Christopher Columbus and his men enslaved native inhabitants of the West Indies, forced them to convert to Christianity, and subdued them with violence in an effort to seek riches.
        On April 17, 1492, before his first voyage to the Americas, Columbus negotiated a business contract with King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain, entitling him to 10% of all profits. In this contract, the Spanish sovereigns agreed:
        “that of all and every kind of merchandise, whether pearls, precious stones, gold, silver, spices, and other objects and merchandise whatsoever, of whatever kind, name and sort, which may be bought, bartered, discovered, acquired and obtained within the limits of the said Admiralty, Your Highnesses grant from now henceforth to the said Don Cristóbal [Christopher Columbus] … the tenth part of the whole, after deducting all the expenses which may be incurred therein.” [1]
        After his fourth and final voyage to the Americas, Columbus summed up his feelings about gold in a July 7, 1503, letter to Ferdinand and Isabella: “Gold is most excellent; gold is treasure, and he who possesses it does all he wishes to in this world.” [2]

        “And it clearly says that the gentiles Kings and Queens shall raise up the house of Israel upon their shoulders and the gentiles kings and queens shall be nursing mothers and fathers. 49:23 Kings and Queens Nursing Fathers and Mothers
        1. Who are these kings and queens?”

        It is speaking of a future event and probably referring to kings being raised from the dead. Read D&C 124 very carefully and see how it interrelates to Isaiah 60 and 61.

        “..and then the gringos gentiles will be like sheep amoungst the lions if the house of Israel go through they will tear into pieces all the gringos
        Your racist interpretation is not compatible with scripture. If you look closely at 3 Nephi 20:16 and 21:12 in the context provided by other canons of scripture you will find that the “remnant of Jacob” and the “remnant of the House of Jacob” and the army they will be part of that Christ was referring included a larger demographic than just those he was speaking to. They only represented a portion of the army of Israel that will go forth treading down the wicked. Section 101 and 103 contain the parable of the redemption of Zion and it explains that the army of Israel will be led by Joseph Smith and the first elders of the restoration. They will be on the ones that “gather up the strength of the Lords house” See also the secret revelation that was received during Zions camp.

        “Has the verses in 3 Nephi 16 verses 10 to 16 already been fulfilled or must they be fulfilled?”

        It has already been fulfilled. I have written about this extensively. The Gentiles rejected the fulness during Joseph Smith’s ministry. The fulness was only on the earth for about 3 ½ years.

        “another question i have why are the two tribes Ephraim and Dan left out of the house of Israel in the book of revelations chapter 7 and chapter 14? is it because both have sinned against God that God will rejected them?”

        Ephraim is no longer an identifiable tribe because he has been mixed among the other tribes

        Hosea 7:8 8 Ephraim, he hath amixed himself among the people; Ephraim is a bcake not turned.

        Every single one of the 144,000 representing twelve tribes has the blood of Ephraim in them which is why they are the ones to bestow the lesser blessing on the other tribal remnants that are not the elect. (see D&C 133:32-34

        32 And there shall they fall down and be crowned with glory, even in Zion, by the hands of the servants of the Lord, even the children of Ephraim.
        33 And they shall be filled with songs of everlasting joy.
        34 Behold, this is the blessing of the everlasting God upon the tribes of Israel, and the richer blessing upon the head of Ephraim and his fellows.

        Jose it has been fun talking with you and getting to know you. I hope you can regain your testimony of the Book of Mormon. It is verily true as are the revelations that Joseph Smith brought forth.

        I want to encourage you to learn how the search the scriptures more diligently and precisely and not spend so much time reading sanitized histories and theories.

        I don’t have any more time right now to reiterate information that has already been covered in the 300+ posts that I have published.

        I would suggest that you read my main page and follow the instructions. Once you have familiarized yourself with the research that has been presented, you will be better qualified to participate in this forum in a more constructive and faith promoting way.

        Thank you so much for dropping by. May the Lord bless you to find the answers to your questions.

        PS
        I would also suggest that you read Doctrine and Covenants 11:21 😉

      • “so why would God say there should not be a king on the promised land when he sent kings to conquer the Americas?”

        He did not say that. You are taking the scripture out of context. Have you been reading the current series? The passage is saying there shall be no kings AFTER America becomes a land of liberty. America has never been a land of liberty since the pilgrims landed.

        “Christopher Columbus did nothing that was not inspired of God to do. Christopher Columbus was not greedy he was commissioned by the crown of Spain to collect the spoils of war and return the gold for the crusade to redeem Israel from the Muslims.”

        I beg to differ-
        “Christopher Columbus and his men enslaved native inhabitants of the West Indies, forced them to convert to Christianity, and subdued them with violence in an effort to seek riches.”
        “On April 17, 1492, before his first voyage to the Americas, Columbus negotiated a business contract with King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain, entitling him to 10% of all profits. In this contract, the Spanish sovereigns agreed:
        “that of all and every kind of merchandise, whether pearls, precious stones, gold, silver, spices, and other objects and merchandise whatsoever, of whatever kind, name and sort, which may be bought, bartered, discovered, acquired and obtained within the limits of the said Admiralty, Your Highnesses grant from now henceforth to the said Don Cristóbal [Christopher Columbus] … the tenth part of the whole, after deducting all the expenses which may be incurred therein.”
        After his fourth and final voyage to the Americas, Columbus summed up his feelings about gold in a July 7, 1503, letter to Ferdinand and Isabella: “Gold is most excellent; gold is treasure, and he who possesses it does all he wishes to in this world.”

        ” And it clearly says that the gentiles Kings and Queens shall raise up the house of Israel upon their shoulders and the gentiles kings and queens shall be nursing mothers and fathers. 49:23 Kings and Queens Nursing Fathers and Mothers Who are these kings and queens?”

        It is speaking of a future event and probably referring to kings being raised from the dead. Read D&C 124 very carefully and see how it interrelates to Isaiah 60 and 61.

        “…and then the gringos gentiles will be like sheep amoungst the lions if the house of Israel go through they will tear into pieces all the gringos ”

        Your racist interpretation is not compatible with scripture. If you look closely at 3 Nephi 20:16 and 21:12 in the context provided by other canons of scripture you will find that the “remnant of Jacob” and the “remnant of the House of Jacob” and the army they will be part of that Christ was referring included a larger demographic than just those he was speaking to.

        They only represented a portion of the army of Israel that will go forth treading down the wicked. Section 101 and 103 contain the parable of the redemption of Zion and it explains that the army of Israel will be led by Joseph Smith and the first elders of the restoration.

        They will be on the ones that “gather up the strength of the Lords house” (See also the secret revelation that was received during Zions camp which clearly identifies the elders of the restoration as the ones that will gather and lead the army that establishes Zion.

        “Has the verses in 3 Nephi 16 verses 10 to 16 already been fulfilled or must they be fulfilled?”

        It has already been fulfilled. I have written about this extensively. The Gentiles rejected the fulness during Joseph Smith’s ministry. The fulness was only on the earth for about 3 ½ years.

        “another question i have why are the two tribes Ephraim and Dan left out of the house of Israel in the book of revelations chapter 7 and chapter 14? is it because both have sinned against God that God will rejected them?”

        Ephraim is no longer an identifiable tribe because he has been mixed among the other tribes
        , he hath amixed himself among the people; Ephraim is a bcake not turned. Hosea 7:8 8

        Every single one of the 144,000 representing twelve tribes has the blood of Ephraim in them which is why they are the ones to bestow the lesser blessing on the other tribal remnants that are not the elect. (see D&C 133:32-34

        32 And there shall they fall down and be crowned with glory, even in Zion, by the hands of the servants of the Lord, even the children of Ephraim.
        33 And they shall be filled with songs of everlasting joy.
        34 Behold, this is the blessing of the everlasting God upon the tribes of Israel, and the richer blessing upon the head of Ephraim and his fellows.

  4. Mike says:

    Awesome post and I appreciate you addressing some of my questions. I’ve been humbled to realize how error-prone my arm of flesh is. Discovering that many of my long held beliefs are actually following the false traditions of my fathers and not a result of holding fast to the rod of iron has presented me with more questions than answers.

    Part of what your writings have done for me is to cause me to go back and re-examine many of those long-held beliefs. One epiphany I had from reading your blog is that the Book of Mormon seems to be rather narrowly focused on a group of people in our days. It’s not full of generalization about the rest of the world, but really seems focused on God’s people. For example, Moroni 8:38 hammered this home to me since I’d always seen this as a lamentation about all those other Christians, but now I understand it’s really directed at, among others, my ancestors and what happened during the 2nd watch.

    With this in mind, I can follow you about 1 Nephi 13 and reconsider who I always believed the man among the Gentiles was. I can also see how that misinterpretation leads us to view the formation of the United States being talked about in 1 Nephi 13 when it really isn’t the case. So with me challenging all these former beliefs, I’m still re-examining what the great and abominable church (GAB) is in 1 Nephi 13.

    I agree that it looks on the surface like it’s the Roman Catholic Church. But so too did the man among the Gentiles look on the surface like Christopher Columbus. Is there a deeper meaning about that church as well?

    If I take a close look at the word of God and compare it to the known and available history, I see some problems. First, if the lifting up of the Gentiles is a 3rd watch event, which I believe it is, then the GAB seems to chronologically precede it. It could be first watch but it also opens it up to 2nd watch times.

    The GAB is the most abominable church above all others and slays the saints of God. (1 Nephi 13:5) Does the RCC fit this descriptive? I haven’t found a lot of documentation about the apostasy of the 1st watch Old World saints. There is good documentation about the 1st watch Nephite saints and the 2nd watch saints and how they fell into apostasy (much of the 2nd watch info from your research and study of the true history of Mormonism). The Nephites were able to successfully live the law of consecrations for several generations. It’s not clear how long the 1st watch Old World saints were able to live it.

    From those examples, it looks to me like part of being successful at having the fulness of the gospel is to be subject to God’s laws, not to man’s laws. The 1st watch Old World saints were subject to Roman laws. The 2nd watch saints were subject to the United States laws. The Nephites seemed to be able to have the fulness endure due to their government being of and by God’s laws during that time.

    Where I’m going with this is if the 1st watch old world saints were destroyed and driven into the wilderness by the Roman Empire, then there weren’t any of God’s saints around in 313 AD or so at the time of the formation of the RCC. Is God really talking in the BoM about or to those people persecuted by the RCC? Are those victims considered by God to be His saints? Or are we to lump the Roman Empire’s crimes against the original saints as being inherited by the RCC?

    The next part that gives me pause is in 1 Nephi 13:8:

    “Behold the gold, and the silver, and the silks, and the scarlets, and the fine-twined linen, and the precious clothing, and the harlots, are the desires of this great and abominable church.”

    The desires of this GAB includes harlots. This is different than other places where the GAB is described as the mother of harlots. Instead, this GAB is a church whose DESIRES include harlots. Is this referring to a CHURCH that desires to have many wives and concubines, despite the clear commandments throughout the scriptures that such things are an abomination? What sort of church could possibly be set up where harlots were a fundamental feature of this church?

    I can’t deny all of the evidence that points me to my long held belief that the RCC = GAB. I think there’s a lot to it. It certainly qualifies by the fact that all those churches that are not of God fall under the GAB. But when I re-examine the way I’ve read 1 Nephi 13 all my life, I’m left questioning whether that GAB spoken of there really matches up with the history of the RCC.

    I definitely have more questions than answers, but I truly am enjoying the process of shedding the traditions of my fathers and trying to hold fast to the iron rod.

    • Let me clarify.

      I do accept Christopher Columbus as the man in that chapter.

      IMO It has to be him because of the chronology of the events.

      First the man is separated from the seed of Lehi by the great waters, then the man comes to the promised land followed by other gentiles who scatter the seed of Lehi.

      All of that is documented in history.

      Then the gentiles prosper and obtain the land for their inheritance and humble themselves and the power of God was with them. That is a future 3rd watch event.

      Then the “mother gentiles” gather against them. That is referring to the great future invasion of America that will take place just as the servants are gathering the elect to Zion.

      That is also a future 3rd watch event.

      That succinct synopsis is completed by the end of verse 19

      Then in verse 20 and 21 we have an interesting transition point. It begins observing that the prospering saints have a book that was carried forth among them. It then gives a history of how the book originally came into existence, going back in time and explaining how it had become corrupted.

      • Mike says:

        I’ll admit it’s still not 100% clear in my mind and there’s a HUGE chance I’m wrong.

        I see the surface, obvious reading as the shadow or type of fulfillment.

        Shadow:
        1 Nephi 13: 2-9 – The Gentile kingdoms are all old-world. The RCC is the formation of the great and abominable church.
        1 Nephi 13: 10-12 – The Gentiles are in the old world, Christopher Columbus is the man among them that discovers the new world
        1 Nephi 13: 13 – The puritans and other old world settlers arrive in America
        1 Nephi 13: 14 – The white European settlers scatter the Lamanites
        1 Nephi 13: 15-19 – The Revolutionary War is fought and the nation is formed because the power of God is with the USA. The USA becomes the greatest, most powerful nation on earth.

        I’ll stop there, before the transition. Up to now, this is how I think almost all LDS believe this is what it is talking about.

        The deeper meaning and future fulfillment:
        1 Nephi 13: 2-3 – The Gentile kingdoms are all over the world, including the Promised Land
        1 Nephi 13: 4-9 – The most abominable of the great and abominable churches is formed. It is formed at a time when actual saints of God are alive, having the fulness of the gospel and trying to live it. This church literally slays saints. It literally desires harlots.
        1 Nephi 13: 10 – Certain Gentiles are now separated from the seed of his brethren. Their separation is caused by their having been slain by this great and abominable church.
        1 Nephi 13: 11-13 – God’s wrath is kindled, he lifts up these 2nd watch Gentiles/saints who are in captivity (in spirit prison). They come across the great gulf of death and return to the promised land to be among the seed of his brethren.
        1 Nephi 13: 14 – There are multitudes of other Gentiles upon the promised land who continue to smite and scatter the Lamanites
        1 Nephi 13: 15-16 – The Gentiles that came out of captivity humble themselves before God and obtain the land for their inheritance – they redeem Zion and build her up
        1 Nephi 13: 17 – The mother Gentiles, or those Gentiles that were already on the Americas come to battle against the Saints in Zion
        1 Nephi 13: 18-19 – The saints in Zion defeat these other Gentiles not through their own ability but directly by the power of God. No Gentile nation is able to overcome them.

        To me, there is a surface reading that is mostly all history that has already taken place, but it isn’t the intended meaning. There is a future prophecy in these verses of events yet to come. I pray I’m not wresting the scriptures. I admit I may be way off, and I can’t quite get the rest of the verses and the book of the Lamb of God to fit everything. I could be off and the mixture of past and future as you outline it may be the best way to make sense of it, I’m just not certain.

      • As you know, I am a huge believer in every prophecy having a dual fulfillment, one with a shadow fulfillment and one a literal fulfillment.

        Why not this one?

        You may be right!

      • Jose Perez says:

        I deeply apologise for the remark gringo I am married to a Mexican lady and all her relatives call me gringo because i am blond with blue eyes even though i dont come from America i never thought of the word gringo as racist before i always thought it was cute to be called that but all said and done i do deeply and sincerely apologise for using the term gringo to refer to a gentile.Regarding the accumulation of gold that Christopher Columbus required from the Spanish monarchy.one problem with people that try to accuse a man from the 14th century of things that we might not accept is righteous in the 21st century is the fact that capitalism was born in the protestant reformation in Germany and Christopher Columbus was of the old school system feudalism, which is identical to the law of consecration or in other words communism which is the true meaning of Zionism.The Catholics that invaded the Americas based there system on gold and when the US president before he was shot in the head old JF Kennedy tried to return the money system bank to gold as it was by order of the Pope at the time to try to return the economic system back to the ancient Roman gold bullion, rather than the modern Federal reserve of fake paper money in notes of i owe you system for Rothschild. Anyway my point is Christopher Columbus was going to be Duke of Veraguas in Panama and to do this the province had to be set up with royal haciendas (which are peasant farms owned by the church and state) the funding for the farming and materials to house the peasant farmers as well as build churches and other infrastructures. Now his son did go on to be the first Duke after Christopher Columbus death in Panama and he was the Duke of Veraguas and he established colonies of peasant farming built on the same principals as all things common the law of consecration (which is a dirty word to the anti-zionists). When Joseph Smith made the commandment to consecrate the gain of the gentiles he was referring to taking the land from the local Missourians and declare the place to be Zion. Unfortunetley it back fired and he was unable to stop the angry Missourians from pushing the Mormons out of Missouri. then years later in september 11th Mountain Meadows Massacre the Danites were trained to consecrate the gain of the gentiles and so they pillaged the pioneers migrating to California from Arkansas. The idea is when a people reject the law of God they become salt that has lots its savor as Sidney Rigdons address mentioned on the fourth of July 1838 his salt sermon kicked up quite a fuss. anyway the idea is the one who had one talent that buried their one talent the person with seven talents took the one talent to magnify that as well as his talents. the consecration of the gain of those who bury their talents was promoted heavily when the west was won for Jesus in 1848. the gold fever period was moving the Indians off their lands for the new Manifest destiny thus the secret combinations went west and from there they spread to the south which was called the Monroe doctrine.. The big question i have is how can the Mormons return the house of Israel to all things common law of consecration when they have sold south america cell phones and coke cola? the new world order will not let the saints live all things common law of consecration like in the days of Christopher Columbus enforced upon the Indian (lamanites) maybe not now the DNA says other wise.

      • Jose

        I did not find the word “gringo” offensive at all. What I found offensive was the commonly accepted but false (IMO) interpretation of the prophecy.

        You implied that the righteous “house of Israel” (perhaps darker skin?) would go forth destroying all of the wicked “gentiles” (perhaps lighter skins?).

        I believe that is a gross misinterpretation of the passage and I believe that the interpretation is somewhat racist and polarizing.

        It is important to realize that the elect of God have been mingled among all nations and they probably come in all shapes and sized and colors.

        Further, I provided scriptural documentation to show that the first laborers of the last kingdom would be the ones that gathered God’s army together. Clearly gringos will be among the army as well as others.

        We should not be fixated on physical differences in trying to determine who God’s righteous people are or will be.

        The book of Mormon informs us that the righteous gentiles will be gathered with the righteous seed of Lehi and other righteous tribal demographics in the last days..

        Admittedly, gentiles are often sanctimonious as well and look down their noses at those of the House of Israel or Jews, etc. .

    • JN says:

      Mike,

      You said:
      “The next part that gives me pause is in 1 Nephi 13:8:

      “Behold the gold, and the silver, and the silks, and the scarlets, and the fine-twined linen, and the precious clothing, and the harlots, are the desires of this great and abominable church.”

      The desires of this GAB includes harlots. This is different than other places where the GAB is described as the mother of harlots. Instead, this GAB is a church whose DESIRES include harlots. Is this referring to a CHURCH that desires to have many wives and concubines, despite the clear commandments throughout the scriptures that such things are an abomination? What sort of church could possibly be set up where harlots were a fundamental feature of this church?”

      1828 Websters definition

      Harlot:
      1. A woman who prostitutes her body for hire; a prostitute; a common woman.
      2. In Scripture, one who forsakes the true God and worships idols. Isaiah 1:21.
      3. A servant; a rogue; a cheat

      In studying deeper about the great whore, the mother of abominations, secret combinations you will see this definition fits generally. These are not outward claimed desires but “Secret”,deeper, hidden, evil desires tied to their worship of the God of this world, Satan and what he gives them. I would clarify the definition just a bit:

      Harlot:
      1. A woman (or man) who prostitutes their body for hire; a prostitute; a common woman.
      2. In Scripture, one who forsakes the true God and worships idols (or Satan). Isaiah 1:21.
      3. A servant; a rogue; a cheat

  5. ryannickelco says:

    Another well thought out blog post.

    I think that 1N 13:37 is a great example of how the Saints of the 2nd Watch sought to establish Zion, but failed.

    37 And blessed are they who shall SEEK to bring forth my Zion at that day, for they shall have the gift and the power of the Holy Ghost; and if they endure unto the end they shall be lifted up at the last day, and shall be saved in the everlasting kingdom of the Lamb; and whoso shall publish peace, yea, tidings of great joy, how beautiful upon the mountains shall they be.

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