A Review of What the Book of Mormon Tells us about the Eschatology of the Latter day Jews: Part Two

This series is about the true eschatology of the Jews

In part one of this series we briefly discussed the fact that the gathering of the Ashkenazi Jews to the Old World Jerusalem in the 1940’s was not in fulfillment of Bible prophecy. It is a smokescreen that has been creating a diversion.

The true gathering of the Jews began gathering to America in the late 1830’s as documented by revelation in D&C 109, 110, and 118 which matches us with the prophecy of Christ in 3 Nephi 16.

We also discussed the  Blood Curse that is still upon the posterity of the Jews that crucified Christ and we documented why neither Jews nor Gentiles are allowed to see the face of God or personally converse with him face to face during this time of “hidden darkness” until AFTER the ushering in of the final great work of the last generation.

We observed Peter’s declaration that God has not altogether cast away his people the Jews and the fact that God was still going to reclaim them and graft them into the Olive tree.

The great mystery pertaining to the Jews includes the fact that God was to set his hand (his Davidic servant) a first time to reclaim them which began during the Nauvoo era of the LDS restoration followed by the setting of his hand a second time (by his same Davidic servant)  when the Marvelous Work begins.

The Format

In order to do justice to the concepts we will be covering in this series, I have decided to devote each part of this series to just two or three prophetic segments of the Book of Mormon that we will be parsing and measuring.

Hopefully this will give the reader plenty of time to ponder and digest the content and avoid becoming overwhelmed with the details in each segment and the correlation and crosspollination between related passages that provide synergistic clarity.

We will parse the relevant sections of the Book of Mormon chronologically with regard to the keyword “Jew”, however we will jump to other relevant sections when keywords emerge that direct us to other pertinent prophecies that don’t use the word “Jew”. It should be remembered that many of the earlier prophecies in the Book of Mormon will need the added clarity of later Book of Mormon prophecies to be fully understood and appreciated.

In this part of the series we will cover 1st Nephi 10 which reveals that the Jews will be recovered in the latter days AFTER the Gentiles receive the fulness of the gospel. Other prophecies that we will be parsing in future posts will further reveal and clarify that it will be after the Gentiles receive and reject the fulness.

The second prophetic segment we will parse is in 1 Nephi 13. It reveals that the Book of the Lamb first comes forth in purity from the Jews to the Gentiles and then becomes corrupted because the great church will take many of the plain and precious things out of it.

Eventually, it comes forth again in purity from the Gentiles to the Jews. The coming forth of the Book of the Lamb in its purity from the Gentiles to the Jews appears to be the beginning of the Marvelous Work and a Wonder. Following that, “other books” come forth from the Gentiles that convince the various factions of latter day Israel that the Gospel is true.

Since the keyword “convincing” emerges in 1 Nephi 13 which points to the “Joseph the Seer prophecy” in 2nd Nephi 3, (and the JST of the Bible) we will include that prophetic segment in this post as well (even though it does not specifically contain the word Jews)  because it reveals that it is Joseph the Seer of the latter days that God uses to bring forth the Book of the Lamb of God and the “other books” that convince people of the truthfulness of the Book of the Lamb of God.

Format for this series

Each prophetic segment that we parse will have a three part format. First I will provide the passages to be parsed and measured for the convenience of those who may be reading the blog without easy access to their scriptures.

Secondly, I will chronologically summarize what I get out of the passages, relative to the eschatology of the Jews, in bullet point fashion. This will give readers the opportunity to compare their observations with mine.

Lastly, I will provide a short commentary and a “this is important because” takeaway.

At the end of the series I will merge all of the bullet point observations pertaining to the Jews into one large chronological bullet point listing.

This will connect many of the pieces of the puzzle and give detail and clarity on the eschatology of the Jews from the prophetic viewpoint of the Book of Mormon.

It will show beyond question that the commonly believed eschatology of the Jews is false and that the gathering of the  Ashkenazi Jews to the Old World Jerusalem that began in the 1940’s is a total smoke screen that is not fulfilling the prophetic narrative of the real Biblical Jews.

From this it will become apparent just how far off the generally accepted narrative is that is taught by Catholic, Protestant and Mormon prophecy scholars.

House Cleaning Issues

Comment Section

The comment section reflects that some of the newer readers are struggling with such a dramatic prophetic paradigm shift.

That is to be expected.

It is truly difficult to expunge the traditions of our fathers from which we have been so strongly indoctrinated. One of the most compelling challenges to the true narrative has to do with a statement that Joseph Smith apparently made about the Old World Jerusalem and the prophecies contained in the Book of Zechariah. I will address those issues at a later time.. possibly in this series.

If you are a new reader, please hang in there and learn how to do keyword searches so that you can free yourselves from the interpretations of man.

Becoming Self Actualizing in Reading God’s Word

On the other hand, it is gratifying to see that there are some that have caught the vision of keyword searches and of the empowerment that comes from learning how to read and interpret scripture for oneself instead of relying on others. I loved the following comment by a person that has mastered the art of keywords searches:

This is one of my favorite subjects from your writings. I look forward to part 2. Thank you so much for sharing your years of scripture study.

After I found your blog nearly 2 years ago, I started doing word searches and the scriptures totally opened up for me; I no longer needed to read the interpretations of men because the scriptures interpret and define themselves.

Every time I taught Relief Society, I would encourage the sisters to do word searches. I always used the scriptures as my source material for my lessons rather than Conference talks and Church publications. That’s probably why the R.S. President asked me to “dumb down” my lessons. I was released shortly after that, and put in charge of activities. 😕

Praise God almighty! Those are the words of a person that does not need anyone to teach her anymore because she has a personal relationship with the holy and infallible word of God!

Three Profound Descriptives Pertaining to the Jews

The Book of Mormon gives three descriptives pertaining to the Jews of the latter days which will be helpful in understanding the eschatology of the Jews. They are as follows:

  • Persuaded to believe
  • Begin to believe
  • Knowledge of the Gospel

Rather than stating that the Jews are “converted” during the first time that God sets his hand to recover his people, or that they experience the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost and are CONVERTED to the fulness, we are informed that they are persuaded to believe. In other words, it is primarily an intellectual belief rather than a mystical, miraculous changing from the natural man into a new creature.  This is consistent with the descriptive “Begin to believe“.

Instead of stating that they believe, it says they begin to believe without ever providing any indication that they come to a full belief during this first grafting in process. This is consistent with the descriptive “knowledge of the gospel“.

There is a profound difference between being converted to the actual fulness of the gospel, vs. receiving a knowledge of the gospel.

In other words, the process of beginning to believe is strictly academic with none of the spiritual gifts and spiritual change of heart that is brought about by the Holy Ghost.

Compare those descriptives of how the Jews receive the gospel to the descriptives used with regard the reception of the Gospel by the Gentiles”

The book of Mormon informs us that Christ “should make himself manifest, by the Holy Ghost, unto the Gentiles“.

Big difference.

That is confirmed by a study of church history. During the early Kirtland years spiritual fruits were emerging among the Gentile saints with speaking in tongues, healings, visions, revelations, etc.

Conversely, during the Nauvoo years when the latter day Jews began flowing into the church, those spiritual fruits were coming to a close and the testimony of the Jews was based on theory and principles of persuasion rather than a spiritual epiphany..

One powerful case in point is a knowledge based testimony expressed by new Jewish convert named Joseph Fielding whose family came across the great waters to be grafted into the church and would eventually play a vital role in the leadership of the Jewish church.

In April of 1844 the church was experiencing a time of contention and apostacy within the church. Some of Joseph’s closest associates from the Kirtland era were questioning some of the doctrines Joseph was spouting and calling Joseph Smith a fallen prophet. The Church was collectively devoid of the spiritual gifts and the heavens were closing during the Nauvoo era.

At this time, Joseph Smith gave the notorious King Follett sermon in which he claimed that God had once been a mortal man on an earth and had gone through a plan of salvation just like we are going through. He would claim that God the father was NOT an unchangeable God from eternity to eternity and that there had been countless Gods that had preceded him.

Following the sermon, Joseph Fielding, one the new Jewish converts from across the great waters was ecstatic at what he hears and proclaimed

April 6th-44

“I have evidence enough that Joseph is not fallen…Our anual Conference bigan and continued 4 Days Joseph,s Discourse on the Origin of Man, the Nature of God and the Resurrection was the most interesting Matter of this time and any one that could not see in him the Spirit of Inspiration of God must be dark, they might have known that he was not a fallen Prophet even if they thought he was fallen.

As you can see, the teachings by Joseph Smith in the King Follett sermon regarding the origin of man and the nature of God were deemed to be illuminating and revelatory by this new convert. He viewed this information of proof that Joseph was not a fallen prophet.

Contrast this reaction by a Jewish convert who was just beginning to believe in Christ, with the reaction of William Law who was a  member of the first presidency.

William Law along with his brother, the Fosters and the Higbees exclaimed that “some of the most blasphemous doctrines” were preached including the heresy that there were “other gods as far above our God as he is above us“.

The point is that at a time when the new Jewish members that were coming into the church from across the great waters should have been seeking the Holy Ghost and enjoying the gifts of the spirit, they were simply taking a left brain approach and judging things based on what they considered to be revelatory “knowledge” that was being shared.

The above descriptives provide a remarkable profile of the latter day church and all of their fragments. Spiritual gifts are not even anticipated in the modern church. Priesthood is simply a term for ecclesiastical “authority” and what a man’s status and privileges in the church are. “Power” in the priesthood is no longer being experienced.

Understanding these things sheds a whole lot of light about why things are the way they are with modern day Mormonism.

Let the Parsing Begin!

Ok..

Now it is time to begin chronologically parsing what the Book of Mormon tells us about the  eschatology of the Jews.

Please do this with me instead of just reading about my personal deductions from personal word searches.

The purpose of this post is not for you to believe what I believe, it is for you to learn how to search for yourself and arrive at your own deductions.

Please feel free to challenge me using scripture, in the comments section or through email (onewhoiswatching [at] gmail.com) if you think I have misinterpreted any of the prophecies that we are going to review.

Using the same standard search techniques you may arrive at different interpretations and deductions than I will arrive at.

It is your interpretations and deductions that should matter to you, not mine.

As one reader of my previous post said who was getting ready to blog about his evaluations of my interpretations, “prepare to have your doctrine measured“.

If you do not employ word search techniques and technology in your scripture study you need to learn how to do it.

If you do not have a favorite scripture search site or software, use the search engine on the LDS church website.

There is something insidiously delightful about using the churches search engine to identify all of the false doctrines that they teach. 😉

For those that are new readers and unfamiliar with doing word searches, I am going to go through some basics to help you get started.

Step 1

Go to the search engine at LDS.org and type the word “jew” into the search engine

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Step 2

When you hit enter

You will notice that the word shows up 1119 times in the four standard works

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Step 3

Change the setting to “sort by bookwhich means search chronologically.

In my opinion, you should never use the default setting of searching by relevance because relevance can only be determined subjectively through inspiration and context, not by technological parameters.

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Step 4

In this particular search, we want to identify a general narrative within the Book of Mormon. For this reason, we are going to limit the search to the Book of Mormon instead of searching all of the standard works

This will lower the number of scriptures snippets to parse through, from 1119 to 70.

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From here on out you simply take a quick look at each reference for context to see if it contains the topic and information you are looking for.

This process may seem laborious and overwhelming at first but the more familiar you become with the process and with the scriptures, the faster you will be able to sift through the various passages and go through the process.

It is amazing how quickly you can cover a huge amount of text to find the needles that are hiding in the haystacks.

From this point forward in this post I am simply going to review the sections of the Book of Mormon that I find relevant to the topic.

I am going to be cherry picking and choosing only those passages that I think directly related to the topic at hand..

You should not rely on my parsing.

Do you own!

Again, email me or make a comment on this post if you think I have missed an important section of scripture or misinterpreted what is being said in the ones I find pertinent.

Relevant Scriptural extract #1

The first extract I have found to parse using this simple methodology is found in 1 Nephi 10

I am providing the text below for those that do not have their scriptures handy.

It will be followed by my own bullet point listing of prophetic observations primarily pertaining to the eschatology of the Jews. Those observations that are in conflict with the commonly accepted prophetic narrative that is taught by prophecy scholars will be noted in red text.

After parsing the following text for yourself, create your own bullet point listing of prophetic takeaways. Then compare your list with mine.

1 And now I, Nephi, proceed to give an account upon these plates of my proceedings, and my reign and ministry; wherefore, to proceed with mine account, I must speak somewhat of the things of my father, and also of my brethren.

2 For behold, it came to pass after my father had made an end of speaking the words of his dream, and also of exhorting them to all diligence, he spake unto them concerning the Jews—

3 That after they should be destroyed, even that great city Jerusalem, and many be carried away captive into Babylon, according to the own due time of the Lord, they should return again, yea, even be brought back out of captivity; and after they should be brought back out of captivity they should possess again the land of their inheritance.

4 Yea, even six hundred years from the time that my father left Jerusalem, a prophet would the Lord God raise up among the Jews—even a Messiah, or, in other words, a Savior of the world.

5 And he also spake concerning the prophets, how great a number had testified of these things, concerning this Messiah, of whom he had spoken, or this Redeemer of the world.

6 Wherefore, all mankind were in a lost and in a fallen state, and ever would be save they should rely on this Redeemer.

7 And he spake also concerning a prophet who should come before the Messiah, to prepare the way of the Lord—

8 Yea, even he should go forth and cry in the wilderness: Prepare ye the way of the Lord, and make his paths straight; for there standeth one among you whom ye know not; and he is mightier than I, whose shoe’s latchet I am not worthy to unloose. And much spake my father concerning this thing.

9 And my father said he should baptize in Bethabara, beyond Jordan; and he also said he should baptize with water; even that he should baptize the Messiah with water.

10 And after he had baptized the Messiah with water, he should behold and bear record that he had baptized the Lamb of God, who should take away the sins of the world.

11 And it came to pass after my father had spoken these words he spake unto my brethren concerning the gospel which should be preached among the Jews, and also concerning the dwindling of the Jews in unbelief. And after they had slain the Messiah, who should come, and after he had been slain he should rise from the dead, and should make himself manifest, by the Holy Ghost, unto the Gentiles.

12 Yea, even my father spake much concerning the Gentiles, and also concerning the house of Israel, that they should be compared like unto an olive tree, whose branches should be broken off and should be scattered upon all the face of the earth.

13 Wherefore, he said it must needs be that we should be led with one accord into the land of promise, unto the fulfilling of the word of the Lord, that we should be scattered upon all the face of the earth.

14 And after the house of Israel should be scattered they should be gathered together again; or, in fine, after the Gentiles had received the fulness of the Gospel, the natural branches of the olive tree, or the remnants of the house of Israel, should be grafted in, or come to the knowledge of the true Messiah, their Lord and their Redeemer.

Bullet point observations pertaining to the Jews:

  • After the Jews and the great city of Jerusalem are destroyed in Old Testament times, many Jews would be “carried away captive into Babylon“.
  • Eventually the Jews would be brought back out of captivity to once again possess the land of their inheritance in the Old World Jerusalem.
  • After being gathered back to the Old World Jerusalem the Lord God would raise up a Messiah among the Jews
  • After the gospel would be preached among the Jews by the Messiah, they would dwindle in unbelief and slay him and become scattered again.
  • After they slay the Messiah, he would be raised from the dead and make himself manifest to the gentiles by the Holy Ghost.
  • After the Jews (house of Israel) are scattered following the crucifixion in the meridian of time, they will be gathered again in the latter days to America (see verse 13) AFTER the Gentiles had received the fulness of the gospel.

The proper interpretation of the final bullet point can be difficult without additional context that is provided later in the Book of Mormon which will provide clarification.

It will be made apparent in future snippets that God would set his hand TWICE to recover his people. It is the LDS restoration movement in the latter days, in America where the Gentiles receive the fulness of the Gospel and where the Lord sets his hand the first time to recover the Jews.

It will be further clarified that it is the same land of America where the Gentiles receive the fulness of the Gospel that the Jews (House of Israel) will be gathered to, to be grafted into the later day church. It will be clarified that the gathering begins happening shortly after the Gentiles receives the fulness in the 1830’s, not in the 1940’s as is commonly believed by apostate Christianity.

This prophecy provides the first major discrepancy between the commonly accepted narrative and the true narrative provided in the Book of Mormon.

The Jews are gathered to America in the latter days, not the Old World.

This is important because it reveals that the gathering of the Ashkenazi Jews to the Old World Jerusalem beginning in the 1940’s does not represent the fulfillment of prophecy regarding the gathering of the Jews in the latter days.

It is also significant because it helps to identify who the real Jews are.

Those that don’t understand this will not be able to correctly discern what is happening here in America.

Relevant Scriptural extract #2

The next section of scripture I have found to parse is found in First Nephi 13.

1 And it came to pass that the angel spake unto me, saying: Look! And I looked and beheld many nations and kingdoms.

2 And the angel said unto me: What beholdest thou? And I said: I behold many nations and kingdoms.

3 And he said unto me: These are the nations and kingdoms of the Gentiles.

4 And it came to pass that I saw among the nations of the Gentiles the formation of a great church.

5 And the angel said unto me: Behold the formation of a church which is most abominable above all other churches, which slayeth the saints of God, yea, and tortureth them and bindeth them down, and yoketh them with a yoke of iron, and bringeth them down into captivity.

6 And it came to pass that I beheld this great and abominable church; and I saw the devil that he was the founder of it.

7 And I also saw gold, and silver, and silks, and scarlets, and fine-twined linen, and all manner of precious clothing; and I saw many harlots.

8 And the angel spake unto me, saying: Behold the gold, and the silver, and the silks, and the scarlets, and the fine-twined linen, and the precious clothing, and the harlots, are the desires of this great and abominable church.

9 And also for the praise of the world do they destroy the saints of God, and bring them down into captivity.

10 And it came to pass that I looked and beheld many waters; and they divided the Gentiles from the seed of my brethren.

11 And it came to pass that the angel said unto me: Behold the wrath of God is upon the seed of thy brethren.

12 And I looked and beheld a man among the Gentiles, who was separated from the seed of my brethren by the many waters; and I beheld the Spirit of God, that it came down and wrought upon the man; and he went forth upon the many waters, even unto the seed of my brethren, who were in the promised land.

13 And it came to pass that I beheld the Spirit of God, that it wrought upon other Gentiles; and they went forth out of captivity, upon the many waters.

14 And it came to pass that I beheld many multitudes of the Gentiles upon the land of promise; and I beheld the wrath of God, that it was upon the seed of my brethren; and they were scattered before the Gentiles and were smitten.

15 And I beheld the Spirit of the Lord, that it was upon the Gentiles, and they did prosper and obtain the land for their inheritance; and I beheld that they were white, and exceedingly fair and beautiful, like unto my people before they were slain.

16 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, beheld that the Gentiles who had gone forth out of captivity did humble themselves before the Lord; and the power of the Lord was with them.

17 And I beheld that their mother Gentiles were gathered together upon the waters, and upon the land also, to battle against them.

18 And I beheld that the power of God was with them, and also that the wrath of God was upon all those that were gathered together against them to battle.

19 And I, Nephi, beheld that the Gentiles that had gone out of captivity were delivered by the power of God out of the hands of all other nations.

20 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, beheld that they did prosper in the land; and I beheld a book, and it was carried forth among them.

21 And the angel said unto me: Knowest thou the meaning of the book?

22 And I said unto him: I know not.

23 And he said: Behold it proceedeth out of the mouth of a Jew. And I, Nephi, beheld it; and he said unto me: The book that thou beholdest is a record of the Jews, which contains the covenants of the Lord, which he hath made unto the house of Israel; and it also containeth many of the prophecies of the holy prophets; and it is a record like unto the engravings which are upon the plates of brass, save there are not so many; nevertheless, they contain the covenants of the Lord, which he hath made unto the house of Israel; wherefore, they are of great worth unto the Gentiles.

24 And the angel of the Lord said unto me: Thou hast beheld that the book proceeded forth from the mouth of a Jew; and when it proceeded forth from the mouth of a Jew it contained the fulness of the gospel of the Lord, of whom the twelve apostles bear record; and they bear record according to the truth which is in the Lamb of God.

25 Wherefore, these things go forth from the Jews in purity unto the Gentiles, according to the truth which is in God.

26 And after they go forth by the hand of the twelve apostles of the Lamb, from the Jews unto the Gentiles, thou seest the formation of that great and abominable church, which is most abominable above all other churches; for behold, they have taken away from the gospel of the Lamb many parts which are plain and most precious; and also many covenants of the Lord have they taken away.

27 And all this have they done that they might pervert the right ways of the Lord, that they might blind the eyes and harden the hearts of the children of men.

28 Wherefore, thou seest that after the book hath gone forth through the hands of the great and abominable church, that there are many plain and precious things taken away from the book, which is the book of the Lamb of God.

29 And after these plain and precious things were taken away it goeth forth unto all the nations of the Gentiles; and after it goeth forth unto all the nations of the Gentiles, yea, even across the many waters which thou hast seen with the Gentiles which have gone forth out of captivity, thou seest—because of the many plain and precious things which have been taken out of the book, which were plain unto the understanding of the children of men, according to the plainness which is in the Lamb of God—because of these things which are taken away out of the gospel of the Lamb, an exceedingly great many do stumble, yea, insomuch that Satan hath great power over them.

30 Nevertheless, thou beholdest that the Gentiles who have gone forth out of captivity, and have been lifted up by the power of God above all other nations, upon the face of the land which is choice above all other lands, which is the land that the Lord God hath covenanted with thy father that his seed should have for the land of their inheritance; wherefore, thou seest that the Lord God will not suffer that the Gentiles will utterly destroy the mixture of thy seed, which are among thy brethren.

31 Neither will he suffer that the Gentiles shall destroy the seed of thy brethren.

32 Neither will the Lord God suffer that the Gentiles shall forever remain in that awful state of blindness, which thou beholdest they are in, because of the plain and most precious parts of the gospel of the Lamb which have been kept back by that abominable church, whose formation thou hast seen.

33 Wherefore saith the Lamb of God: I will be merciful unto the Gentiles, unto the visiting of the remnant of the house of Israel in great judgment.

34 And it came to pass that the angel of the Lord spake unto me, saying: Behold, saith the Lamb of God, after I have visited the remnant of the house of Israel—and this remnant of whom I speak is the seed of thy father—wherefore, after I have visited them in judgment, and smitten them by the hand of the Gentiles, and after the Gentiles do stumble exceedingly, because of the most plain and precious parts of the gospel of the Lamb which have been kept back by that abominable church, which is the mother of harlots, saith the Lamb—I will be merciful unto the Gentiles in that day, insomuch that I will bring forth unto them, in mine own power, much of my gospel, which shall be plain and precious, saith the Lamb.

35 For, behold, saith the Lamb: I will manifest myself unto thy seed, that they shall write many things which I shall minister unto them, which shall be plain and precious; and after thy seed shall be destroyed, and dwindle in unbelief, and also the seed of thy brethren, behold, these things shall be hid up, to come forth unto the Gentiles, by the gift and power of the Lamb.

36 And in them shall be written my gospel, saith the Lamb, and my rock and my salvation.

37 And blessed are they who shall seek to bring forth my Zion at that day, for they shall have the gift and the power of the Holy Ghost; and if they endure unto the end they shall be lifted up at the last day, and shall be saved in the everlasting kingdom of the Lamb; and whoso shall publish peace, yea, tidings of great joy, how beautiful upon the mountains shall they be.

38 And it came to pass that I beheld the remnant of the seed of my brethren, and also the book of the Lamb of God, which had proceeded forth from the mouth of the Jew, that it came forth from the Gentiles unto the remnant of the seed of my brethren.

39 And after it had come forth unto them I beheld other books, which came forth by the power of the Lamb, from the Gentiles unto them, unto the convincing of the Gentiles and the remnant of the seed of my brethren, and also the Jews who were scattered upon all the face of the earth, that the records of the prophets and of the twelve apostles of the Lamb are true.

40 And the angel spake unto me, saying: These last records, which thou hast seen among the Gentiles, shall establish the truth of the first, which are of the twelve apostles of the Lamb, and shall make known the plain and precious things which have been taken away from them; and shall make known to all kindreds, tongues, and people, that the Lamb of God is the Son of the Eternal Father, and the Savior of the world; and that all men must come unto him, or they cannot be saved.

41 And they must come according to the words which shall be established by the mouth of the Lamb; and the words of the Lamb shall be made known in the records of thy seed, as well as in the records of the twelve apostles of the Lamb; wherefore they both shall be established in one; for there is one God and one Shepherd over all the earth.

42 And the time cometh that he shall manifest himself unto all nations, both unto the Jews and also unto the Gentiles; and after he has manifested himself unto the Jews and also unto the Gentiles, then he shall manifest himself unto the Gentiles and also unto the Jews, and the last shall be first, and the first shall be last.

Bullet point observations for 1 Nephi 13

  • In the latter days the Gentiles go forth out of captivity upon the many waters to the “land of promise” in America.
  • The Book of the Lamb of God that proceeded forth out of the mouth of a Jew was carried among the Gentiles to the land of promise. It was a “record of the Jews“.
  • When the book first came forth, it went forth from the Jews to the Gentiles in purity and contained the fulness of the Gospel of whom the 12 apostles bear record.
  • After the book went forth, the great church corrupted the book and have taken many plain and precious parts of the gospel of the Lamb and many covenants.
  • The Gentiles that came forth out of captivity to America would be given power over the seed of Lehi whose ancestors had hidden up many plain and precious things to come forth to the Gentiles by the power of the Holy Ghost, (including the Book of the Lamb of God).
  • Nevertheless, the Gentiles would remain in darkness after coming to America because of the plain and precious parts of the gospel that had been taken out of the Book of the Lamb.
  • Eventually the Gentiles would temporarily “stumble” (during Joseph Smith’s ministry) but would eventually bring forth many plain and precious things that had been hidden up when the Marvelous Work begins in the future.
  • The Book of the Lamb of God would be among the many plain and precious things that are hidden up by the seed of Lehi. It would be taken in its purity to the seed of Lehi by the Gentiles.
  • After the Book of the Lamb of God that had been hid up in its purity comes forth to the Gentiles by the power of the Holy Ghost and goes forth to the Jews and seed of Lehi, “other books” would come forth.
  • These “other books” would convince the Gentiles, the Seed of Lehi and the Jews that are once again scattered upon the face of the earth of the truthfulness of the records of the prophets and the Twelve apostles and of the gospel of Christ.

One of the takeaways in the above narrative that pertains to the eschatology of the Jews, is that the Jews become “convinced” of the truthfulness of the gospel of Christ while they are in a scattered condition during the latter day days.

This is very important because it is completely contrary to the current belief that the Jews have been gathered in the Old World Jerusalem and have still not collectively begun to believe in Jesus Christ!

The following passage from 1 Nephi 13 provides key words that link up to the “Joseph the seer” prophecy in 2 Nephi 3.

38 And it came to pass that I beheld the remnant of the seed of my brethren, and also the book of the Lamb of God, which had proceeded forth from the mouth of the Jew, that it came forth from the Gentiles unto the remnant of the seed of my brethren.

39 And after it had come forth unto them I beheld other books, which came forth by the power of the Lamb, from the Gentiles unto them, unto the convincing of the Gentiles and the remnant of the seed of my brethren, and also the Jews who were scattered upon all the face of the earth, that the records of the prophets and of the twelve apostles of the Lamb are true.

Compare those passages to the following ones in 2 Nephi 3.

11 But a seer will I raise up out of the fruit of thy loins; and unto him will I give power to bring forth my word unto the seed of thy loins—and not to the bringing forth my word only, saith the Lord, but to the convincing them of my word, which shall have already gone forth among them.

The prophecy in 2 Nephi 3 proves that it is the “Joseph” in that  “Joseph the Seer” prophecy that brings forth the books that convince the people that the Book of the Lamb of God is true.

The prophecy concerning Joseph Smith Jr. in D&C 90 proves that Joseph Smith Jr. is the seer spoken of in 2 Nephi 3, that will return to the vineyard to bring forth the other books that do the convincing.

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Interestingly, the prophecy about Joseph the Seer in the Book of Mormon would never have come up in our key word search of the word “Jew” since that word is not found in the chapter, although the phrase “loins of Judah” is used. This is why it is generally so important to not limit a search to just one keyword. It is amazing how one keyword search will identify another keyword which in turn identifies another and on and on.

By comparing 1 Nephi 10 with 1 Nephi 13, and integrating 2 Nephi 3 into the equation for context and clarity, we now know that the “word which shall have already gone forth among them” is not referring to the corrupted king James version of the Bible or even the Joseph Smith translation of the Bible. It is referring to the Book of the Lamb of God that had originally come forth from the Jews to the Gentiles in purity.

It is AFTER the Marvelous Work and a Wonder begins and the Book of the Lamb of God goes forth from the Gentiles in its purity that the “other books” referred to in 1 Nephi 13 which are mentioned above as the bringing forth ofmy word“,  that will come forth to convince the remnants of God’s people that the Book of the Lamb of God is true!

How does it come forth again in purity?

The scriptures inform us that it had been recorded and hid up by the seed of Lehi and that it will be translated by the latter day Seer spoken of in 2nd Nephi 3 and D&C 90.

By parsing through and connecting the prophecies contained in 1st Nephi 10, 1st Nephi 13, and 2nd Nephi 3 we now have the ability to accurately measure the interpretation and claims of Mauricio Berger regarding the “Joseph the Seer” prophecy in 2nd Nephi 3.

The following interpretation by Mauricio Berger regarding the “Joseph the Seer” prophecy (2 Nephi 3 [LDS] and 2 Nephi 2 [RLDS]) was provided by Bob Moore with an updated revision provided on December 26th 2017:

Lehi continues with Joseph’s prophecy. It contains an second description of a seer. “But a seer will I raise up out of the fruit of thy loins; and unto him will I give power to bring forth my word unto the seed of thy loins; and not to the bringing forth my word only, saith the Lord, but to the convincing them of my word, which shall have already gone forth among them. Wherefore, the fruit of thy loins shall write; and the fruit of the loins of Judah shall write; and that which shall be written by the fruit of thy loins, and also that which shall be written by the fruit of the loins of Judah, shall grow together, unto the confounding of false doctrines, and laying down of contentions, and establishing peace among the fruit of thy loins, and bringing them to the knowledge of their fathers in the latter days; and also to the knowledge of my covenants, saith the Lord. And out of weakness he shall be made strong, in that day when my work shall commence among all my people, unto the restoring thee, O house of Israel, saith the Lord. And thus prophesied Joseph, saying: Behold, that seer will the Lord bless; and they that seek to destroy him, shall be confounded: for this promise, of which I have obtained of the Lord, of the fruit of thy loins, shall be fulFilled. Behold, I am sure of the fulFilling of this promise. And his name shall be called after me; and it shall be after the name of his father. And he shall be like unto me; for the thing which the Lord shall bring forth by his hand, by the power of the Lord shall bring my people unto salvation” (2N 2:17-30).

While most people believe that this portrayal further describes Joseph Smith, Jr., it contains aspects that do not apply to him:

1) He would not only bring forth the Lord’s word, but also convince them of the word that had already been given to them;

2) He is blessed by the Lord so that those who try to destroy him are confounded;

3) His name will be Joseph, the same as his father;

4) What he brings will extend peace and salvation to the Lord’s people. While Joseph Smith, Jr. revealed the word of the Lord, both in the Book

While Joseph Smith, Jr. revealed the word of the Lord, both in the Book of Mormon and the in latter-day revelations, he did not not convince any of the words that the Lord had already given them. No revelation had proceeded him, except perhaps the Bible, which those to whom he came already believed. Neither were the enemies of Joseph Smith, Jr. confounded so that that did not destroy him. His enemies murdered him. Joseph Smith, Jr. did not bring peace to his followers. Instead, they were expelled from the land of Zion and driven from city to city.

On the other hand, Joseph Smith III, the son of Joseph Smith, Jr. and designate of his father as his successor, met all four characteristics. He gathered many faithful believers who had been misled by ambitions and aspiring leaders and had lost their faith in the latter-day message during the dark and cloudy day. He convinced them of the truthfulness of the work that his father began, more by his conduct than his instruction. He also brought new revelation, properly interpreted those received by his father, especially ones defining the duties and functions of quorums, and published the Inspired Version of the Bible, a correction that His father had compiled.

The Lord also blessed Joseph III with an honest and humble demeanor. Even his opponents confessed that he returned virtue and integrity to Mormonism. His steady, pragmatic leadership brought peace and salvation to the members of the church that he led and won the respect of many opponents of the angel message. No one sought his life and when he died at age 86, thousands of saints who had safely returned to the lands from which the original church had been forcibly removed a generation before celebrated his accomplishments. He had restored dignity to his father’s name, which name he also carried. Moroni declared that this second seer is Joseph III.

As you can see, Mauricio claims that Moroni informed him that Joseph Smith III was the Seer that is referred to in the prophecy that brought forth the word and convinced the seed of Joseph of the word that had already gone forth

“..and not to the bringing forth my word only, saith the Lord, but to the convincing them of my word, which shall have already gone forth among them.”

We now know from parsing and correlating several sections of prophecy in the Book of Mormon that the word that is first brought forth is the Book of the Lamb of God in its purity!

Additionally, we now know that the translation and publishing of additional ancient “books” following the coming forth of the Book of the Lamb of God, is what convinces the seed of Joseph of the truthfulness of the Book of the Lamb of God!

Clearly, Joseph Smith III never translated and brought forth the Book of the Lamb of God in its purity nor did he translate and bring forth “other books” to convince the seed of Joseph of it’s truthfulness.

By using keyword search technology to parse and compare and correlated the prophecies in the book of Mormon, we are able to get a much more complete and accurate understanding of the prophetic narrative.

We can also expose the false interpretation of the prophecy that was given by the false prophet Mauricio Berger.

As we continue to parse additional relevant snippets from the Book of Mormon, we shall see that the latter day Jews first BEGIN to believe while in a scattered condition. Then God sets his hand the first time to recover them to the latter day Land of their inheritance in America. That began happening during the Nauvoo era of Joseph Smith’s ministry.

Following that initial gathering to America, the latter day land of their inheritance, the latter day Jews who call themselves latter day saints, are once again scattered into stakes all over the world by the modern church.

Finally, when the marvelous work begins, God will set his hand the second time to recover his people and they will finally become gathered again and eventually be converted to the gospel.

An important takeaway is that the Book of the Lamb of God first goes forth from the Jews to the Gentiles in purity. It then becomes corrupted by the great church and is taken by the Gentiles to the promised land. Eventually the uncorrupted Book of the Lamb of God that had been hidden up by the seed of Lehi comes forth among the Gentiles to be taken to the Jews and the seed of Lehi.

These prophetic snippets in the Book of Mormon provide critical pieces of the puzzle when it comes to understanding the eschatology of the Jews.

By themselves these three prophecies may seem short and somewhat lacking in detail and context, however, when cross referenced and combined, they take on greater clarity.

As we continue parsing through additional prophecies that pertain to the Jews in the Book of Mormon, the skeleton will take on flesh and the missing pieces of the narrative will emerge and come together in clarity.

The Book of the lamb of God first came forth from the Jew to the Gentile. It was eventually corrupted by the Great Church. In the latter days, it will come forth in its purity once again from the Gentiles to the Jews and the seed of Lehi.

This has not happened yet.

It appears as if it must happen BEFORE the sealed portion is opened and translated.

After the Book of the Lamb of God comes forth from the Gentiles to the Jews, it will be followed by other books that will come forth through the Gentiles by the power of God.

These other books will convince the remnants of Israel of the truthfulness of the Gospel of Christ.

 

 

 

 

11 Responses to A Review of What the Book of Mormon Tells us about the Eschatology of the Latter day Jews: Part Two

  1. Shirley VanLeuven says:

    Hi watcher? Have you heard of Nehemiah Gordon? He is a Karaite Jew Scholar who is working to bring forth original Hebrew texts of the Bible. He has even been working with Christians in aspects of identify God’s correct name YHVH or YaHoVah. His story is fascinating!!

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  2. Mike says:

    I know there is more to come in this series, but with a lifetime of indoctrination, I’ve got a lot of cognitive dissonance to wade through.

    I can see 1 Nephi 13 in the mainstream LDS view as a narrative of the 1st watch to 2nd watch. But if it the Book of the Lamb of God isn’t the Bible, then that’s not what the narrative is about…

    I can somewhat get 1 Nephi 13 to be a 2nd/3rd watch narrative, but not as well as I’d like. The man among the Gentiles who was separated by many waters could be a match for the man who was in the sea. He and other Gentiles were in captivity until they were lifted up by the power of God — this is definitely 3rd watch stuff. I don’t know, am I stretching it too far or is this matching those other passages?

    The Book of the Lamb of God then would be a book that contained many Covenants and also had plain and precious truths removed from it. It should have already come out. I have an idea what that book could be, but it doesn’t seem to me that it came from the Jews to the Gentiles, or that it was buried up by Lehi’s descendants.

    If the Book of the Lamb of God isn’t the Bible as assumed from a 1st watch narrative, then the Great and Abominable Church isn’t the Catholic Church either and that man among the Gentiles isn’t Christopher Columbus…

    Interestingly, a keyword search on ‘great’ and ‘abominable’ and ‘church’ gives several passages of scriptures to review:
    1 Nephi 13-14
    1 Nephi 22
    2 Nephi 6
    2 Nephi 28
    D&C 29

    D&C 29 points us to Ezekiel as having prophesied of the destruction of this church which had not yet happened (as of 1830). This is really quite a lot to digest.

    I’m not sure if this is where this series on the latter day Jews is heading, but this is a fascinating concept and one I’m really digging into and searching the scriptures and rethinking the way I’ve read them my whole life.

    • Fantastic observations.

      This dovetails nicely into the next installment of the series so I will address these things in the next post.

    • Jessi H says:

      Hi there! I wasn’t originally going to reply to your comment because I didn’t want to butt in, but as the days went by, I just couldn’t stop thinking about it. So, I apologize, but the identity of the great and abominable church was one of my first word searches in the scriptures, and has been the focus of my extra-scriptural studies over the last couple of years. Because I regularly pray for truth no matter what, the Lord has blessed me with the information to see with clarity things as they really are. He guided me up the New World Order pyramid one level at a time (I’m very thorough minded, so I would not have wanted to simply be airlifted to the capstone). I’ll share with you, as briefly as possible, some of what I’ve learned thus far:
      The great and abominable church=Babylon=the tares=the whore of all the earth=the mother of all harlots=the woman who rides the beast=the legs of iron=the fourth and final beast. This entity is absolutely the Roman Catholic Church because the Catholic Church is the Roman Empire in disguise. Rome “fell” and wrote herself out of history in order to rule from the shadows. The woman represents the pagan sun-worshipping religious systems practiced by the ancient gentile nations in the Old Testament and Rome in the New Testament. Now, we know that scriptural metaphors have multi-layered meanings and fulfilments, but the one that best matches this issue is for the seven heads of the beast (ridden by the woman) to match up with the great empires of the post-flood world.
      1. Nimrod’s Babylon (Tower of Babel society into which Abraham was born after they were scattered)
      2. Egypt
      3. Assyria (conqueror of northern kingdom of Israel)
      4. Neo-Babylon (Nebuchadnezzar’s empire which conquered the southern kingdom of Judah and is the head of gold in Daniel)
      5. Media-Persia (silver)
      6. Macedonia/Greece (brass)
      7. Rome (legs of iron) This empire falls (deadly head wound) and rises again as the eighth head.
      The New World Order is actually the Old World Order. The plan at the time of the building of the tower is the same plan being put into motion today.
      The man among the gentiles is probably not Columbus, but someone we’ve not been told about. Or, possibly, as Measuring Doctrine stated below, someone who is the fulfillment of a future prophecy.
      However, the original settlers/colonists of North America were Bible-believing Christians who knew from scripture that Rome was Mystery Babylon, and from history that she would not allow “Protestants” to live in peace. They risked their lives crossing the great waters to escape her reach. She followed shortly after and manipulated the founding of the United States. In fact, our beloved “religious freedom” serves the purpose of ensuring that Roman Catholicism can never be outlawed as it had been in England at the time of the pilgrims. The Catholic (Universal) Church is the current incarnation of Babylonian paganism, including the practices of extreme child abuse and human sacrifice. The occult leaders have had to hide these abominations for the last 3 or 4 centuries, but eventually they will again practice openly (externalization of the hierarchy). After the invention of the printing press, Rome couldn’t burn Bibles (and their readers) fast enough, so she began to set “learning against learning” to muddy the waters of truth. That’s where modern academia comes from, and why the language of scholarship was/is always Latin. Rome created a false reality in order to discredit the Bible. She plays both sides of society through the Hegelian Dialectic. Left wing/Right wing, the Head of the eagle is Rome. She is the “city that rules over the kings of the earth.” But, her beast will turn on her and rip her to shreds. The city will burn.
      Anyway, I could go on and on about this and related topics, but I don’t know how long these comments can be, and I didn’t want to interrupt you or step all over Watcher.
      If this interests you, or if you want to challenge this information, I recommend reading “Rulers of Evil” by F. Tupper Saussy. (It’s ridiculously priced on Amazon, but I found a free pdf online very easily.)
      Other books are “50 Years in the Church of Rome,” “Washington in the Lap of Rome,” “All Roads Lead to Rome?”, “The History of the Jesuits,” and “Secret Terrorists.”
      The YouTube channel Mig Mag has an uploaded 3-part video teaching by a Utah guy that seemed to be LDS.
      Look up Alberto Rivera.
      Look up the 4th vow of the Jesuits. They rule all secret societies (all Knights are Roman) and have infiltrated every aspect of our world from science to politics to entertainment to religion. They covertly run the Protestant seminaries and public universities, they live as Baptist preachers teaching Jesuit/Catholic doctrines, they sit on the correlation committee (and perhaps in the chief seats). They implement and enact false flags through their use and contol of Freemasonic law enforcement. They are the hidden hand, the “deep state”, the shadow government, the modern Gadiantons. And their plots and schemes and power really took off in the mid 1800’s. Hmm.
      Also, a guy named Johnny Cirucci has written 3 books about this, and has a really great website and podcast. JohnnyCirucci.com
      He doesn’t know about the true history of Mormonism, of course, but he is a dedicated follower of Christ whose information on current events and Christian history is fantastic. (It took me a while to get used to his personality and presentation style, but now I find him really entertaining and informative.) His website and YouTube channel are somewhat hidden and trolled by “the machine”; funnily enough, I found his site when searching for a link between Brigham Young and Albert Pike. Unsurprisingly, that link is none other than Pierre de Smet, the Jesuit priest. From Johnny and his tiny team of researchers, I aquired to tools to see for myself who rules the world. You won’t believe how Roman we are, but it’s impossible to unsee it when you finally have open eyes.
      And, I must add, my study of scripture, secular history, and the occult has only reinforced the claims on this blog about the Three Watches and what really happened in the 1830’s and 40’s.
      Again, I apologize for insinuating myself into your conversation.

      • Amen!

        We are on the same page…

        Although I am not going to address the topic extensively in this series, this is a section I have already written in the next installment:

        It is critical to know who the great and abominable church is if one is going to understand the prophetic narrative in 1 Nephi 13 and 14 and related passages.

        When Bruce R. McConkie first published his book Mormon Doctrine, he said this about the Great and Abominable Church of the Devil:

        “It is also to the Book of Mormon to which we turn for the plainest description of the Catholic Church as the great and abominable church. Nephi saw this ‘church which is the most abominable above all other churches’ in vision. He ‘saw the devil that he was the foundation of it’ and also the murders, wealth, harlotry, persecutions, and evil desires that historically have been a part of this satanic organization”

        After studying this topic for many years I am also convinced that the Roman Catholic Church is being referred to in the Book of Mormon. Anyone familiar with the bizarre and brutal history of Catholocism and reformation and the inquizition can see who the Book of Mormon is referring to.

        The first presidency of the church later required brother McConkie to alter the above definition since it was offensive to Catholics and it was simply not politically correct to make such an accusation about an existing worldwide church.

        Nevertheless, his statement was true.

        The Vatican, through the “Black Pope” and the Jesuits, are have been conducting a global conspiracy to eslave the world since the emergenance of the order.

        It is no coincidence that the latest Pope is a Jesuit.

        If you study the Jewish banking empire and their many organizations deep enough, you will be led to the Vatican.

        They were behind the assassination of Lincohn and Kennedy.

        The army of Jesuits have infiltrated virtually every political and governmental organization in the world. They are the secret order behind virtually all secret orders. I have blogged about this before. Those who are interested in learning about the ancient trusts, treaties and contracts that are still in force, that bind the US would do well to study the research done by Judge Anna von Reitz … that are still in force through which the United States are still in bondage to can begin by reading these references

      • Mike says:

        Thank you for the information and links to other sources. I have read some similar information over the years, but I’ll look into the resources you have provided. I’ve previously seen 1 Nephi 13 as it relates to the discovery/settlement of the Americas by the Europeans. However, I think there is a future fulfillment of this prophecy. Here’s where I see things lining up, albeit not perfectly.

        The man among the Gentiles who is separate from the seed of Nephi’s brethren sounds to me like the man from the sea (Revelations 5, 2nd Esdras 13). The seas, then, are representative of death and hell. The man who travels across this sea is Joseph Smith and this is his 3rd watch return.

        The other Gentiles that follow him are the other laborers from the 2nd watch who have a 3rd watch mission to fulfill. They ultimately receive their inheritance in the promised land (see Measuring Doctrine’s comment below).

        The mother Gentiles who are gathered to battle against them, would be a match for the battle described in 2nd Esdras 13: 8-11.

        I’m not 100% convinced this is right, but there seems to be a lot lining up.

        If I’m reading this right, and the Book of the Lamb of God isn’t the Bible, then is it the Doctrine and Covenants? It seems like the D&C isn’t a perfect fit for the Book of the Lamb. However, it has definitely had plain and precious truths removed from it. The mouth of a Jew seems significant, especially the keyword “mouth”. Is part of this Joseph Smith’s dual heritage? He is both the Gentile and the Jew Nephi sees?

        How would part of the D&C be had by the records stored up by Nephi’s descendants? Well, Joseph Smith had Christ’s words literally put in his mouth. Christ also visited the Nephites and could have given them similar prophecies about the last days that are not included in Mormon’s abridgement. The Nephite record could speak to many of the revelations Joseph Smith received in the D&C.

        The Great and Abominable Church, then would include not just the Roman Catholic Church, but also the church that was involved in removing truths from the D&C. I don’t think this invalidates all the work you’ve done about the RCC, but rather may speak to the infiltration of the Latter-Day church by that same Great and Abominable Church.

        This concept is a little mind-blowing and something I’m still grappling with.

      • interesting thoughts Mike.

        I think you will find the next installment very interesting.

        I agree with you that the great and abominable church is not limited to the Catholic Church.

        Their secret army has infiltrated all large churches, governments and organizations.

        The D&C provides a much broader definition of the great and abominable church who is also referred to as the great whore:

        Doctrine and Covenants 86:3

        3 And after they have fallen asleep the great persecutor of the church, the apostate, the whore, even Babylon, that maketh all nations to drink of her cup, in whose hearts the enemy, even Satan, sitteth to reign—behold he soweth the tares; wherefore, the tares choke the wheat and drive the church into the wilderness.

        A person does not need to be a Catholic or even be directly influenced by the Jesuits to be part of the great and abominable church.

        Everyone in whose heart Satan reigns, is part of the great church. But the great institutional church that overcame the wheat of the New Testament Church and drove it into the wilderness, is the Catholic Church.

        Yes, Mormonism Inc is a subsidiary of the great whore right now but virtually all of institutional religion is.

      • Very interesting thoughts Mike

        I think you will find the next installment very interesting regarding my interpretation of 1 Nephi 13.

        Although the Catholic Church is the foundational church of the great whore, the great and abominable church is much broader and pervasive than just that institution.

        Even those not being directly or even subliminally influenced by the great Jesuit army can be part of the great church.

        The D&C informs us that anyone that allows Satan to reign in their hearts is part of the great church.

        Doctrine and Covenants 86:3
        3 And after they have fallen asleep the great persecutor of the church, the apostate, the whore, even Babylon, that maketh all nations to drink of her cup, in whose hearts the enemy, even Satan, sitteth to reign—behold he soweth the tares; wherefore, the tares choke the wheat and drive the church into the wilderness.

        It was a clearly defined religious institution that choked the wheat of the New Testament church and drove them into the wilderness, nevertheless, anyone in whose heart Satan dwells is part of his great church.

        Virtually all large institutions in church and state have drunk from the cup of Babylon and are all subsidiaries of this great church, including Mormon Inc.

        This is why the great and marvelous work needs to take place and shake things up and restore the true church to the earth. IMO

  3. Here’s one thing that jumped out at me when examining 1 Nephi 13 after reading this post.

    15 And I beheld the Spirit of the Lord, that it was upon the Gentiles, and they did prosper and obtain the land for their inheritance; and I beheld that they were white, and exceedingly fair and beautiful, like unto my people before they were slain.

    I had always been taught this was the colonization of North America during the 1500’s-1800’s. While the white man might have moved onto the land itself, Nephi says he saw this group of Gentiles obtain the land for their inheritance. That would imply a promise from God, not conquest and colonization. The scriptures tell us that as of 1831, the Lord was willing to make this promise but it hadn’t happened yet:

    D&C 38
    18 And I hold forth and deign to give unto you greater riches, even a land of promise, a land flowing with milk and honey, upon which there shall be no curse when the Lord cometh;
    19 And I will give it unto you for the land of your inheritance, if you seek it with all your hearts.
    20 And this shall be my covenant with you, ye shall have it for the land of your inheritance, and for the inheritance of your children forever, while the earth shall stand, and ye shall possess it again in eternity, no more to pass away.

    D&C 57
    5 And also every tract bordering by the prairies, inasmuch as my disciples are enabled to buy lands. Behold, this is wisdom, that they may obtain it for an everlasting inheritance.

    D&C 101 and 103 then tell us Zion will be redeemed in the future.

    When you then read verses 16-20 of 1 Nephi 13, it sounds a lot like latter-day Zion and New Jerusalem. “The power of the Lord was with them” (“the power of heaven” in 3 Nephi 21). Nations coming upon the land to battle against those in the land of inheritance. The wrath of God. Gentiles delivered by the power of God out the hands of all other nations.

  4. rockwaterman1 says:

    I’m very glad to see this topic covered from an LDS point of view, Watcher. Most Mormons are completely unaware.

    Rock

    On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 2:43 PM, Because I am Watching wrote:

    > [image: Boxbe] Because I am Watching ( > comment-reply@wordpress.com) is not on your Guest List > > | Approve sender > > | Approve domain > > > onewhoiswatching posted: “This series is about the true eschatology of the > Jews In part one of this series we briefly discussed the fact that the > gathering of the Ashkenazi Jews to the Old World Jerusalem in the 1940’s > was not in fulfillment of Bible prophecy. It is a smokescreen” >

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