The Secret Return of Elijah the Tishbite

Dear reader, if you are having a crisis of faith regarding the historicity of section 110, this is my Christmas present to you.


The Secret Return of Elijah the Tishbite

Click below for all 16 rebuttal points to date.

A Controversy in Zion- Part One and Two and Three and Four Final 10

10 Responses to The Secret Return of Elijah the Tishbite

  1. Fusion says:

    …and Merry Christmas to you!

    Almost forgot this was coming…

  2. Fusion says:

    JS’ quote about the church’s success or failure in correlation with the JST Inspired Version is absolutely essential in understanding a the following 4 generations of Church history.

    In fact, if the KJV left out these amazing morsels, I wonder if there was purposely done so by the powers that be…

    Boy I am having fun with this one, Watcher…it’s 230 am and I should have been asleep by now!

    • “JS’ quote about the church’s success or failure in correlation with the JST Inspired Version is absolutely essential in understanding a the following 4 generations of Church history. ”


      I keep forgetting that you are upside down and living in another dimension 🙂

  3. SeekingtobeAstonished says:

    Remarkable. Thank you Watcher. I am appreciative of the insight regarding the necessity of the New Translation and its apparent importance to the success of the Second Watch…
    Also, your insight regarding Elijah and John the Baptist are right on target…so thrilled to see someone trusting in the word of the Lamb as contained in the scriptures.
    I wouldn’t be surprised to see Denver agree with much of what you said — who knows, you might change his paradigm about 110.
    Something that resonates for me with both you and Denver is discovering the fact that the church has completely missed the mark with regards to D&C 110.
    Here we are running ourselves ragged doing genealogy work (ironically, a task belittled by the scriptures) and using that as an excuse for spending time coming to know the Lord by seeking his word and serving those among us who are suffering today. I have an elderly neighbor who is in excellent health and prides herself on extracting thousands of names a month for the church genealogical program — yet she is mostly ignorant of the scriptures and the word of the Lord. Thus is the tempo set by the drum bearers in the church….

    • “I wouldn’t be surprised to see Denver agree with much of what you said — who knows, you might change his paradigm about 110.”

      That is an interesting postulation about Denver. In all fairness, he never actually came out an took a definitive stand on section 110, although he obviously highly questions it. One needs to give him credit for publicly challenging the Elijah doctrine and the merging of the genealogy work nonsense. Making this topic a high profile public discussion has resulted in an interest in getting to the truth of the matter. People are all of the sudden taking a much more focused and serious look at scripture because of Denver challenging the commonly believed Elijah doctrine and that is a significant contribution on his part.

      Frankly, I have attempted to bring up the topic of Elijah being J the B a few times over the years and it never got much traction so I let it drop. It was not until people began questioning section 110 that a light went on in my head about how hugely significant this is. All of the sudden, even more dots became connected and I figured that the time might be right to re-address this issue.

      Thanks for sharing those observations… and also the U and T. That is really interesting!

  4. JennyP1969 says:

    My question is Why? Why make someone go through the mortal birth process, to learn to walk, talk, etc. All over again? Why not let him return as a translated being? John the Baptist was such a delight and joy to Elizabeth and Zechariah — would he be theirs for eternity, or his Tishbite parents?


    If he is transmigrated, who else is? That why question is a key to taking this all in. Perhaps the answer lies in the old catch all that God’s ways are not our ways.

  5. SeekingtobeAstonished says:


    A little off topic but I thought you might be sadly entertained by a quote from the LDS First Presidency message in this months Ensign:

    “We can sometimes waste years of our lives waiting to be chosen (see D&C 121:34-36). But that is a false premise. You are already chosen!” (Dieter F. Uchtdorf, January 2014 Ensign, p. 5).

    hmmmm….ok….this is an interesting take on a complex doctrine taught over 15 years by the Prophet Joseph…wouldn’t you say?


    • Wow. What a misinterpretation and misapplication of scripture.

      Is he not aware that the scriptures referring to the “called” and “chosen” were making reference to the previous restoration of the Melchizedek priesthood and that by 1841 the Lord declared that the fulness of the priesthood (which makes being called and chosen possible) had been lost from the church and has not yet been restored to this day?

      Hence we have someone that does not have the fulness and does not understand what the fulness is, bestowing a promise that pertains to the fulness. go figure.

      When is this madness going to end?

      It is actually quite on topic because, as will be pointed out in future posts, the secret visitation behind the veil represented the time when the gospel covenant with the gentiles was broken (the daily sacrifice was taken away) resulting in a dramatic change in the trajectory of the church. This ultimately resulted in the circus that we are now all participating in.

  6. Fusion says:

    It is safe to say that we the LDS are in such a blind state, and so proud to see it.

    Ansd why? Because as a church we are stinking rick. Not as individuals nor orphans, neither widows, but as a collective body- this itself is a proud and blind thought as the post-Joseph LDS church is not a collective body but a ‘sole corporation’ having just one member and that is Tommy Boy Monson, who has been put there as a clear puppet many years ago by the powers that be- the very system of a new president taking over after the last one dies is a sure plan to ensure the billion dollar business runs as Babylon formula states.

    The fact the Uchtdorf and Tommy’s other buddies are such uninspired puppets and still fooling the sheep is because in LDS terms wealth = chosen of God.

    I challenge the entire body of saints to stop paying tithing and offerings for a year to LDS Inc and give instead to the Lord directly ‘do it unto the least of your brethren’ on the street etc and THEN see what happens.

    I guarantee the curdled milk that is being fed to those who require meat will disappear as that house of cards crashes. Seems we’ve learned absolutely nothinf from the Nephites and the Book of Mormon.

    We are in the era I’ve called the ‘Catholicisation of the LDS Church’ for a number of years now. ..

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