Oliver’s Secret

[Editorial Note: I am currently doing a series on another Forum titled “Exploring the Secret History of the Church”..I plan on documenting about 20 or 30 interesting historical events that most members of the Church are unfamiliar with… hence they are, in a sense, “secret historical events”.

I have chosen that forum because it is frequented primarily by two opposing groups of people:

A) those who have rejected the restored gospel


B) those that do believe it, but don’t believe that Joseph Smith ever did anything seriously wrong that caused the saints to stumble at the LAW.

Historical event #1 has to do with the fact that Joseph and Oliver kept the event documented in section 110 a secret from the saints during their lives although they left a written account for future generations to have.

In this follow up to that topic I am pointing out that the primary reasons that Joseph and Oliver were commanded to keep the visitations secret have to do with:

A) A cursing that was pronounced on the saints,

B) The secret ushering in of the ancient, preparatory gospel of Abraham, even the Old Testament covenant God made with people prior to the dispensation ushered in during the meridian of time, and it also has to do with

C)  The sin of treachery that Joseph committed against the wife of his youth..

Since the explanation and associated documentation is rather long, I am posting it here instead of in my listing if secret historical events.

To follow along and see other events that will be listed on that forum, click here ]


For years I have made statements on my blog implying that section 110 contains a mysterious and ominous message of doom involving a curse, even though the Lord informs Joseph and Oliver that:

Your sins are forgiven you; you are clean before me lift up your heads and rejoice. Let the hearts of your brethren rejoice and let the hearts of all my people rejoice, who have, with their might, built this house to my name. For behold, I have accepted this house and my name shall be here and I will manifest myself to my people in mercy in this house…”

While it is certainly good news that their sins are forgiven, it is also curious news.


Because three years earlier in section 88 the Lord had already announced that their sins had been forgiven. In that revelation the Lord told Joseph, Oliver and others that their names had been recorded in the book of the sanctified and that they were receiving another comforter which is the promise of eternal life:

” Behold, this is pleasing unto your Lord, and the angels rejoice over you; the alms of your prayers have come up into the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth, and are recorded in the book of the names of the sanctified, even them of the celestial world.

Wherefore, I now send upon you another Comforter, even upon you my friends, that it may abide in your hearts, even the Holy Spirit of promise; which other Comforter is the same that I promised unto my disciples, as is recorded in the testimony of John.

This Comforter is the promise which I give unto you of eternal life, even the glory of the celestial kingdom” (Section 88)

Clearly, Joseph and Oliver had been forgiven of their sins back at the time of section 88.

The forgiveness of Joseph and Oliver’s sins was yesterdays news.

Why was it being announced again behind the veil in 1836 as something they should now rejoice in, as if the remission of their sins was something that had just taken place?

I think the obvious answer is that they had sinned sometime after their names had been enrolled in the book of the sanctified.

My contention that Joseph had sinned after being made clean is backed up by several revelations.

One is section 93 given May 6th 1833:

And now, verily I say unto Joseph Smith, Jun.—You have not kept the commandments, and must needs stand rebuked before the Lord

Another is contained in a revelation Joseph received on December 5th 1834:

Verily, condemnation resteth upon you who are appointed to lead my Church and to be saviors of men and also upon  the Church; And there needs to be a repentance and a reformation among you, in all things…” (See UnPub Rev Pg 73)

Clearly, Joseph, Oliver and the whole church fell into a condemned state following the entry of their names into the Book of the Sanctified.

The fact that the Lord is now declaring that Joseph and Olivers sins are forgiven is promising but it begs the question, what was the problem? What were the primary sins that had caused them to stumble and why were they being forgiven at that time behind the veil?

Regarding sins that Joseph and Oliver had become entangled in prior to their veil experience, in the case of Joseph Smith, there is strong evidence to suggest that there was some type of serious sin that Joseph Smith had been involved in. He may have been involved in an affair with a gal named Fanny Alger, although he felt he was justified according to the laws of God…

More on this later.

Another observation is that the saints had been promised that all of the pure in heart would “see the face of God” and they were anticipating the endowment of “power from on high“. All of this was to take place in the solemn assembly, one week prior to Joseph and Oliver’s veil experience but it had failed to happen, leaving the leaders of the church devastated and disappointed.

Furthermore, the saints were anticipating the “dispensation of the fulness of times” to be ushered in during this time and yet, the dispensation that is secretly ushered in behind the veil was quite a different dispensation.

It was referred to in section 110 as the “dispensation of the Gospel of Abraham“. A phrase that never shows up in any other place in the scriptures.

“…Elias appeared, and committed the dispensation of the gospel of Abraham, saying that in us and our seed all generations after us should be blessed.”

Joseph and Oliver Commanded to Keep Section 110 Secret

 As previously pointed out, it seems strange that God would usher in a dispensation of an ancient, preparatory gospel, and command Joseph and Oliver to not reveal it publicly.

They were to only document it in a journal for the saints to discover after the martyrdom.

Brigham Young and his brethren must have been shocked and confused to find this secret revelation containing a brief summary of what took place behind the veil when they obtained the journal and took it with them to Utah.

They must have been baffled at the fact that an ancient dispensation had been restored to the earth and yet, the Lord apparently didn’t want the church membership to know about it during the Kirtland and Nauvoo eras!

It is really difficult to find any official, authoritative and detailed statements from the modern church leaders explaining and clarifying just exactly what the “gospel of Abraham” even is, let alone, a documented reason why it needed to be restored to the earth in 1836.. in secret.

Many LDS manuals and publications insinuate that as part of the dispensation of the fulness of times, all previous dispensations need to be restored and gathered into it.

On a BYU website, author Joel A. Flake states:

On April 3, 1836, the keys of the “dispensation of the gospel of Abraham” were committed to the Prophet Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery in the Kirtland Temple as part of the restoration of all things in the dispensation of the fulness of times (D&C 110:12).

See also http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Dispensation_of_the_Fulness_of_Times

The problem with this teaching is that the dispensation of the fulness of times had not yet been restored in 1836!

Several years after the vision behind the veil in 1836, while incarcerated in jail in 1842, Joseph Smith would acknowledge that the dispensation of the fulness of times was, at that time, just beginning to usher in:

“…for it is necessary in the ushering in of the dispensation of the fulness of times, which dispensation is now beginning to usher in, that a whole and complete and perfect union, and welding together of dispensations, and keys, and powers, and glories should take place, and be revealed from the days of Adam even to the present time…”

In the above passage, Joseph was acknowledging that the dispensation of the fulness of times had not been ushered in yet. It was just beginning to be ushered in six years after section 110!!

He was speaking about things that needed to be revealed in the future, not about things that had been revealed and ushered in, in the past.

Clearly the Dispensation of the Gospel of Abraham was not being  ushered in as part of the “restoration of all things in the dispensation of the fulness of times“, because the fulness of times had not begun.

In previous posts I have provided historical and scriptural documentation to show that the dispensation of the fulness of times that Joseph was still attempting to usher in, in 1842, was never ushered in.

There are only two possible reasons why the general authorities of the church generally remain quiet regarding the true meaning of the term “gospel of Abraham” in section 110

One would be because they don’t know what the Gospel of Abraham is, why it was ushered in, and what section 110 is speaking about.

The other possibility is that…. they do.

Sadly, the dispensation of the fulness of times was never ushered in during Joseph’s life time. Instead, the saints got downgraded to an ancient dispensation pertaining to the preparatory gospel.

Isaiah speaks prophetically about the restoration of the gospel of Abraham in Isaiah 48 and declares that the apostate saints of the latter days are “suddenly” given the declaration of “former things” because they are “obstinate“.

He then reveals that the Lord will defer his anger in the latter days just as he did anciently when Israel rejected the law:

Nevertheless, for my name’s sake will I defer mine anger, and for my praise will I refrain from thee, that I cut thee not off.”

The deferring of God’s anger through an intercessory act is another rabbit hole and another secret historical topic that is intricately interrelated with this topic which will hopefully be discussed again in more detail at another time.

The dispensation of the fulness of times had been predicated on the restoration of the fulness of the priesthood which had been lost and the completion of the Nauvoo Temple by the appointed time. (section 124)

For a detailed analysis of Isaish 48 see the following post:


The Significance of a “Suddenly” Intervention

Isaiah declares the word of the Lord thusly:

“Behold, I have declared the former things from the beginning; and they went forth out of my mouth, and I showed them. I did show them suddenly.”

Websters dictionary: SUD’DENLY, adv. In an unexpected manner; unexpectedly; hastily; without preparation.

The prophetic use of the term “suddenly” when referring to a communication from the Lord virtually always has to do with actions he takes when his people are in apostasy and they need some kind of intervention or chastisement.

If you will do a key word search on the word suddenly in the four standard works, you will see an amazing pattern to support this supposition-

Such as when the Lord spoke “suddenly” to Moses, Aaron and Miriam, to chastise Aaron and Miriam.

Another example is the Lord appeared “suddenly” to Paul on the way to Damascus, to chastise him for persecuting the Saints.

A third example is given in Deuteronomy when the Lord warns those that intermarry with the heathen that he will destroy them “suddenly”.

Jeremiah tells us that at the time of the Lords vengeance, Babylon will fall “suddenly”.

A Curse Takes Place at the Temple
When the Lord comes “Suddenly”

 In Modern revelation it was prophesied that the Lord would come “suddenly” to his temple with a curse to judgment upon all the nations that forget God, and upon all the ungodly among you (speaking to the Saints).

HEARKEN, O ye people of my church, saith the Lord your God, and hear the word of the Lord concerning you—

The Lord who shall suddenly come to his temple; the Lord who shall come down upon the world with a curse to judgment; yea, upon all the nations that forget God, and upon all the ungodly among you.” (D&C 133:1-2)

I believe the above prophecy in section 133 is referring to the Kirtland Temple and that it applies to what took place as documented in section 110. Keep in mind, however, that virtually all prophecies have a dual fulfillment.  (See also Isa 34:5)

All of the above passages support a reoccurring theme. The Lord acts SUDDENLY when an intervention, a chastisement, or something NEW needs to take place, usually as a result of the apostasy of an obstinate person or people.

The Ark of the Covenant in the Kirtland Temple

 Another key to interpreting the message of warning and doom carefully implied in the sudden appearance of Christ and three ministering angels to Joseph and Oliver has to do with the following observation:

We saw the Lord standing upon the breastwork of the pulpit, before us; and under his feet was a paved work of pure gold, in color like amber.”

A Keyword search using “paved work” reveals that the Lord was apparently standing on or above the ark of the covenant and fulfilling the enactment of ancient sayings and statutes pertaining to the ark of the covenant (see Exodus 25:22)

This and other related passages lead to the atonement statute in Lev 16 which supports the previously mentioned intercessory actions of God’s servants who delay the wrath of God by taking the sins of latter day Israel upon themselves.

The FUTURE FAME of the Kirtland Temple

The following passages in section 110 are speaking about the future fame of the Kirtland Temple

Yea the hearts of thousands and tens of thousands shall greatly rejoice in consequence of the blessings which shall be poured out, and the endowment with which my servants have been endowed in this house.

 And the fame of this house shall spread to foreign lands; and this is the beginning of the blessing which shall be poured out upon the heads of my people.  Even so.  Amen.”

Although there are a few members of the church scattered throughout the world that have a cursory understanding about the past and future significance of the Kirtland Temple, society in general and people in foreign lands have no idea that the Kirtland Temple exists or that it is significant.

The above declaration in section 110 is speaking about “fame” which spreads to foreign lands.

The 1828 Websters dictionary informs us that fame has to do with a “public report or rumor”, not just an event that is inside knowledge to a certain religious group.

It has to do with a “favorable report”

It has to do with a “report of good or great actions”, A “report that exalts the character, celebrity; renown”.

The Websters uses the “fame of Solomon” as an example as well as the “fame of Jesus” (Matt 4). Fame is to “make famous”


The Kirtland Temple is not currently famous in foreign lands to a great number of people.

But it will be in the near future.

Those who understand the doctrine of the three watches and the promises pertaining to the future events that will take place in the Kirtland Temple, understand that the Kirtland Temple is going to become famous in foreign lands in the near future when the Marvelous Work begins and the dispensation of the fulness of times is ushered in.

I began speaking about this secret event by stating that Joseph and Oliver share a grand secret with each other. That secret was the experience they both had behind the veil in the Kirtland Temple when they experienced what is documented in section 110.

God apparently commanded them to not publicly reveal it to the saints.

Oliver’s Secret

I believe that Oliver had a secret all of his own that was revealed to him as a result of two things.

One was a vision he had prior to the event that is documented in section 110.

The other has to do with something that was revealed to him as a direct result of the event that is documented in section 110.

Oliver could see something about Joseph that Joseph could not see about himself.

Joseph’s Eyes Were Covered

 The Book of Mormon profoundly modifies a passage in Isaiah to reveal that the latter day seers (Joseph and Sidney) would have their eyes covered because of the sins of the latter day saints.

For behold, the Lord hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep.  For behold, ye have closed your eyes, and ye have rejected the prophets; and your rulers, and the seers hath he covered because of your iniquity.” (2 Nephi 27:5)

Joseph the seer had his eyes covered because of the sins of the latter day saints. It was because they took the scriptures lightly and failed to live the law of the gospel which includes that law of consecration..

This is why Oliver could see something about Joseph that Joseph could not see about himself.

Shortly after the visitation in the Kirtland Temple, Oliver became very critical of something Joseph had done.

On the surface, it seems totally bizarre that Oliver would become a militant accuser of Joseph Smith in light of everything that had happened and all they had experienced and been through together.

Oliver accused Joseph of committing a grievous moral sin.

Joseph denied that he had sinned.

Oliver described it as “a dirty, nasty, filthy affair

Interestingly, Joseph did not deny having had a relationship with Fanny Alger, he denied that he had committed adultery with her, implying that he had married her and therefore the act was not adultery.

According to Bushman, “Joseph never denied a relationship with Alger, but insisted it was not adulterous. He wanted it on record that he had never confessed to such a sin. Presumably, he felt innocent because he had married Alger.” (pg 325 Joseph Smith, Rough Stone Rolling)

Oliver has a Vision of Joseph’s Future

Joseph believed that what he was doing was commanded of God through an angel and that by marrying polygamous wives, he was not committing adultery.

Shortly before the vision behind the veil, Oliver Cowdery wanted to understand more about the mission of Joseph Smith so he gave Joseph a patriarchal blessing that came in the form of a prophetic vision.

Interestingly, this patriarchal blessing/vision was received on September 22, 1835. (Moroni had previously appeared to Joseph Smith on this exact date for about six years in a row!)

In the patriarchal blessing it was revealed to Oliver that Joseph would return from the dead to lead Israel into the land of Zion in the literal fulfillment of the parable of the redemption of Zion and that Oliver would be by Joseph’s side, fulfilling his own prophetic calling  ….

For like Joseph of old shall he be; he shall save the just from desolation by the wise counsel of the Almighty;

12. For by his direction shall they gather into store houses and barns till they overflow with the richness of the fruit of the harvest;

13. And by this means shall the just be saved from famine, while the nations of the wicked are distressed and faint.

14. In due time shall he go forth toward the north, and by the power of his word shall the deep begin to give way; and the ice melt before the Sun.

15. By the keys of the kingdom shall he lead Israel into the land of Zion, while the house of Jacob shouts in the dance and in the song-

16. Joy O my soul in that day, for thou shalt be with him and bear thy part in the keys which are confirmed upon thee for an everlasting priesthood forever and ever-“

 This vision is consistent with Isaiah 49 wherein the lamenting servant of the last days appears to have failed in his first attempt to gather Israel but then the Lord reveals to him that he will yet, at the “acceptable time” establish the earth and cause Israel to inhabit the desolate heritages.

The vision Oliver had, revealed that Joseph’s fame would eventually spread to foreign lands:

His fame shall be sounded in foreign lands, even to the ends of the earth, as well as nigh at home: for in this the times shall change, a prophet shall have honor in his own country.”

He shall sit in the great assembly and general council of patriarchs, and execute the will and commandment under the Ancient of Days, for he shall have his place and act in his station.”

 Joseph Wrestles with an Angel

 Despite the visions glowing report of Joseph’s future conquest and successful completion of his responsibilities in restoring and gathering Israel, this amazing prophetic vision curiously begins by revealing that Joseph  would need to “overcome” and “prevail” over something in the future.

Joseph would yet “prevail” after “wrestling” with an angel.

It was revealed to Oliver that God would need to “sustain” Joseph during a future time.

Notice the use of these descriptives in the opening passages of the blessing:

“Blessed of the Lord is my brother, for the integrity of his heart and the steadfastness of his soul.

2. Upheld by the aim of the Almighty, he shall never fall, but shall be strengthened by his right hand till he overcomes.

3. Like Jacob of old he shall wrestle with the angel, and as a prince shall he have power with God, and shall prevail.

4. Ever faithful to his friends and true to his word, the goodness of the Most High shall sustain him, and thousands shall stand up to defend him from the hand of his enemies and put forth the hand, and ward off the blow were it needful:

5. But ere his foes are aware he shall be hid under the pavillion of the Lord Jehovah..”  (the concept of being hid under the pavilion of the Lord is consistent of the Old Testament prophesy in 2nd Sam 7 that explains that the mercy of God would not depart from Joseph despite his transgression and the associated chastisement he would receive.)

This amazing vision was acknowledging that despite the fact that Joseph had had his name enrolled in the book of the sanctified several years earlier, he was in transgression. He still needed to “prevail” and “overcome” in a struggle with an ANGEL.

The fact that Joseph would not ultimately fall and lose his salvation, but would nevertheless need to eventually overcome and prevail over some kind of a stumbling block associated with an angel appears to be one of the grand secrets that Oliver knew about in conjunction with his experience behind the veil.

Oliver had seen in vision that Joseph would wrestle with an angel and eventually prevail, overcome, and repent. He saw this  in September of 1835, shortly before the veil experience documented in section 110. He also very possibly knew of the first visit of this angel in Joseph’s life and possibly even the affair with Fanny, before the two of them knelt down behind the veil in the Kirtland Temple.

Even if the affair with Fanny took place after the veil experience, all of the circumstances relating to this amazing string of events makes sense.

 Joseph Claimed that an Angel Threatened his Life

 Joseph Smith told many people about an angel that commanded him to take plural wives. An account of many of these testimonials can be read at the following link provided by Brian C. Hales, one of the modern day advocates of the false polygamy/spiritual wife doctrine-


According to one account, the angel visited Joseph on four occasions.

The testimony of Mary Elizabeth Rollins states that the angel visited Joseph three separate times between 1834 and 1842 commanding him to take multiple wives. Other documentation suggests that Joseph delayed obeying the angel for a considerable number of years.

“An angel came to him [Joseph Smith] and the last time he came with a drawn sword in his hand and told Joseph if he did not go into that principle, he would slay him.

 Joseph said he talked to him soberly about it, and told him it was an abomination and quoted scripture to him.

  He said in the Book of Mormon it was an abomination in the eyes of the Lord, and they were to adhere to these things except the Lord speak… [The Prophet reported that] the angel came to me three times between the years of 1834 and 1842 and said I was to obey that principle or he would slay me.”

Clearly, Joseph was not naive about the law of the Gospel he had been instrumental in bringing forth.

The purpose of bringing forth the LAW of the GOSPEL was to enable them to escape the power of the enemy and to prepare them to be endowed with power from on high:

And that ye might escape the power of the enemy, and be gathered unto me a righteous people, without spot and blameless—

32  Wherefore, for this cause I gave unto you the commandment that ye should go to the Ohio; and there I will give unto you my LAW; and there you shall be endowed with power from on high” (D&C 38)

He knew full well that monogamy is part of the celestial marital protocol according to the law contained in section 42.

Thou shalt love thy wife with all thy heart, and shalt cleave unto her and none else” (D&C 42:22)

A second witness to the truthfulness of this marital monogamy doctrine is found in section 49 and a 3rd witness was canonized when Oliver’s “Article on Marriage” in included in the D&C.

As mentioned in the testimony of Lightner above, Joseph also had the unmistakable declarations of the Book of Mormon emblazoned upon his mind as well.

Jacob 1:15

And now it came to pass that the people of Nephi, under the reign of the second king, began to grow hard in their hearts, and indulge themselves somewhat in wicked practices, such as like unto David of old desiring many wives and concubines, and also Solomon, his son.

Jacob 2:24

Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.

Jacob 2:27

Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none. For I the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts. Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts or cursed be the land for their sakes.  (note that the Book of Mormon defines a chaste woman as someone who is married to a man that only has one wife. Further, it warns that the land is CURSED when these commandments having to do with monogamy are violated. Hold this thought until we get to the curse upon the earth mentioned by Malichi and the curse mentioned by Isaiah)

Jacob 3:5-7

Behold, the Lamanites your brethren, whom ye hate because of their filthiness and the cursing which hath come upon their skins, are more righteous than you; for they have not forgotten the commandment of the Lord, which was given unto our father—that they should have save it were one wife, and concubines they should have none, and there should not be whoredomes committed among them.
6 And now, this commandment they observe to keep; wherefore, because of this observance, in keeping this commandment, the Lord God will not destroy them, but will be merciful unto them; and one day they shall become a blessed people.
7 Behold, their husbands love their wives and their wives love their husbands; and their husbands and their wives love their children; and their unbelief and their hatred towards you is because of the iniquity of their fathers; wherefore, how much better are you than they, in the sight of your great Creator?

Mosiah 11:1-4

And now it came to pass that Zeniff conferred the kingdom upon Noah, one of his sons; therefore Noah began to reign in his stead; and he did not walk in the ways of his father.
2 For behold, he did not keep the commandments of God, but he did walk after the desires of his own heart. And he had many wives and concubines. And he did cause his people to commit sin, and do that which was abominable in the sight of the Lord. Yea, and they did commit whoredoms and all manner of wickedness.
3 And he laid a tax of one fifth part of all they possessed, a fifth part of their gold and of their silver, and a fifth part of their ziff, and of their copper, and of their brass and their iron; and a fifth part of their fatlings; and also a fifth part of all their grain.
4 And all this did he take to support himself, and his wives and his concubines; and also his priests, and their wives and their concubines; thus he had changed the affairs of the kingdom.

Ether 10:5

Riplakish did not do that which was right in the sight of the Lord, for he did have many wives and concubines.

A Contrary Commandment

This is why Joseph wrestled with the angel over the commandment to take plural wives. It was blatantly contrary to the LAW he had brought forth.

It violated the commandments of God in the Book of Mormon and the law of the Gospel as revealed in section 42 &49.

It is amazing how many LDS men and women will pray and fast to know if the law of multiple wives in section 132 is true without first praying to get a testimony that the Law of celestial monogamy in section 42 & 49  is true!

These conflicting doctrines on celestial marriage cannot both be true.

Once a person receives a testimony that monogamy is integral to God’s law of Marriage as documented in section 42, there is no need to even pray about the contradictory celestial law of marriage contained in section 132, even if an angel presents the revelation. Such is dual mindedness and denial of a previous revelation.

 Another Gospel

 One of the basic tenants of Biblical Christianity is that a believer in Christ will be accursed if they depart from the faith and accept a different gospel than the one revealed in holy scripture, even if an angel from heaven should command it:

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” (Galatians 1:8–9)

  Joseph Taught How to Discern a False Angel

 Curiously, Joseph once warned that ministering angels of Satan  appearing as angels of light had appeared to members of the church and his caution was that a false angel could be detected by the fact that they would contradict a former revelation:

There have also been ministering angels in the church which were of Satan appearing as an angel of light:— A sister in the State of New York had a vision who said it was told her that if she would go to a certain place in the woods an angel would appear to her,— she went at the appointed time and saw a glorious personage descending arrayed in white … he commenced and told her to fear God and said that her husband was called to do great things, but that he must not go more than one hundred miles from home or he would not return; whereas God had called him to go to the ends of the earth; and he has since been more than one thousand miles from home, and is yet alive. Many true things were spoken by this personage and many things that were false.—How it may be asked was this known to be a bad angel? … by his contradicting a former revelation“.  (Times and Seasons 3 [April 1, 1842]: 747)

The Old Testament confirms the above declaration that the word of the Lord takes precedence over conflicting commandments from angels.

It tells a story of two prophets in 1 Kings chapter 13. The first prophet had received instructions from the word of the Lord on how to proceed on his journey. A second prophet intervenes during the journey and informs the first prophet that he was visited by an angel.

He informs the first prophet that the angel had given a new, different commandment to be given to the first prophet. Because the first prophet was willing to accept the testimony of another prophet and the contrary commandment supposedly from an angel, over the word of God, he was destroyed by a lion. (see 1 Kings 13)

The fact that the angel with the drawn sword was giving Joseph a contradictory commandment is a poignant and sobering fact given Joseph’s above warning to the saints.

Many credible researchers, including Bushman, believe that Joseph’s intimate involvement with Fanny Alger took place sometime between mid 1835 and mid 1836.

This makes perfect sense according to the information being presented in this post and based on the fact that both the Kirtland Saints and the Jackson Saints had failed to live consecration and had rejected the fulness of the gospel by the end of 1834..

 The Curse is Caused by Breaking the Everlasting Covenant
And by Breaking the Monogamous Marital Vow

 Isaiah reveals that the curse that the prophet Malachi speaks about is caused by transgressing the laws, changing ordinances and breaking the everlasting covenant:

BEHOLD, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.

2  And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer, so with the seller; as with the lender, so with the borrower; as with the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him.

3  The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken this word.

4  The earth mourneth and fadeth away, the world languisheth and fadeth away, the haughty people of the earth do languish.

The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.

Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.

Consequences of Breaking the Monogamous Covenant

Let us take a close look at one of the greatest mysteries of the gospel which has been hidden in plain sight for about six thousand years in ancient scripture and is reiterated in verses 15-17 of section 49-

Whoso forbiddeth to marry is not ordained of God, for marriage is ordained of God“ (42:15)

Obviously this verse is not only reiterating what the creation story teaches, it is also reiterating what the LAW of the GOSEPEL contained in section 42 states about marriage;

Thou shalt love thy wife with all thy heart, and shalt cleave unto her and none else” (42:22)

After declaring that marriage is ORDAINED of God, the Lord informs us that

“Wherefore it is LAWFUL that he should have ONE wife…” (42:16)

The 1828 Websters dictionary states this about the term LAWFUL.



1. Agreeable to law; conformable to law; allowed by law; legal; legitimate. That is deemed lawful which no law forbids, but many things are lawful which are not expedient.

2. Constituted by law; rightful; as the lawful owner of lands.

I would submit, based on the fact that marriage is ORDAINED of GOD and that it is CONFORMABLE to and CONSTITUTED by gospel law, that gospel law does not just allow, permit and tolerate marriage but rather that gospel law actually requires marriage.

( admittedly, there are provisions made for those that are not able to comply in the first part of probation)

This is further backed up by the fact that one of the very first commandments that God gives us in Genesis is for the man and woman to leave their parents and to multiply and replenish the earth by uniting with someone of the opposite gender.

After noting that gospel law requires being married to ONE wife, the passage in section 49 continues-

“…and they twain shall be ONE FLESH…”

Again, this, of course, is reiterating what God said in Genesis.

Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.”  Gen. 2: 24

I have mentioned in other blogs that I believe this statement is literal when it commands the man and wife to become one flesh. – ( See also Matt. 19: 5-6 Mark 10: 8)

After God separated the female part of Adam out of his body to create his female helpmate, he commanded them to eventually become “one flesh” again. I believe this will happen with Adam and Eve if it has not already happened to them.

There is a deeper reason why monogamy is such a huge issue that is interrelated to the curse that Malachi and Isaiah prophesy about.

The grand secret is contained in the next verse of section 49:


Did you catch that?

Eventually the earth will be filled with the MEASURE of man!

What is the measure of man?

Let us consult Webster-

MEASURE, n. mezh’ur.

1. The whole extent or dimensions of a thing, including length, breadth and thickness.

The point being made in the passage of scripture is that eventually the earth will be filled with the WHOLE EXTENT of man in his completeness!

The natural man living on this earth is currently incomplete!

The mortal man and woman are each incomplete beings.

Eventually the earth will be filled with men in their complete form… in their “whole extent or dimension”!

Just to make sure that we understand what the Lord is saying, he continues with a clarification-


There you have it.

The earth is not going to be filled with incomplete men like those of us that are living after the FALL OF ADAM.

It will be filled with men who are organized in the same way they were ORIGINALLY created during the spiritual creation documented in the Book of Moses and the JST BEFORE THE WORLD WAS PHYSICALLY MADE!!!!!!!! (which was the same way Adam and Eve were created physically as a composite man from the dust and introduced into the garden

He is not speaking about fallen man.

The earth will not be filled with the natural man who is incomplete and is an enemy to God.

It won’t even be filled with repentant mortal males and females who have been filled with the holy spirit. Why? Because they have not reached their full measure yet!

It will be filled with the measure of men who have been completed and perfected by uniting with their female counterpart.

It will be filled with perfected men who are not singularly male or female but rather they are composite and complete.

This is why we are informed that “neither is the man without the woman [singular] neither the woman without the man [singular] in the Lord

Additionally, we are informed that those that receive the spiritual rebirth through baptism and “put on Christ” loose their singular gender:

For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

(Click here for more into on this topic)

In the spiritual creation, before this world was made, God created man as a whole, complete composite being containing both male and female spirit. A meshing of male and female spirit is necessary for completion.

Completion is necessary for perfection.

It is only during this temporal probation that the elect male and female spirits are separated with the commandment for men to marry one wife and become one flesh so that they can return to the whole extent in which they were originally created.

It is the transgressing of God’s laws, the changing of the ordinances and the breaking of the everlasting covenant which includes the marital monogamy covenant that causes the earth to be defiled!

The transgressing the laws, changing ordinances and breaking the everlasting covenant involves many things. Among them is sexual immorality and the defiling of the monogamous marital covenant.

The Curse Upon the Earth is Already Going Forth

There is strong reason to believe that since the four generations have expired since the saints rejected the fulness and the intercessory offering took place, this cursing upon the earth spoken of by Malachi and Isaiah, is already going forth.

Before long, everyone shall see it!

Here is a fascinating testimony of someone who has been paying attention and can see the curse that is upon the earth. TPTB are trying to use bioengineering to delay the curse and they are ultimately making things worse-



(Both links contain the same interview. Two are provided in case one is deleted)

Interestingly, one of the first things the servants will do when they get back is to go forth to the notable cities and villages, reproving the world for their ungodly deeds. At this time they will set “forth clearly and understandingly the desolation of abomination in the last days.”

They will explain why the curse mentioned in Isaiah and Malachi and other prophecies is going forth and they will condemn all of the different transgressions. This will include failure to live consecration and sexual immorality that violates the law of monogamous marriage and destroys the purpose for which the earth was created!!

But I digress…

We need to discuss the second thing that happened to Oliver Cowdery to reveal to him the grand secret he understood about Joseph Smith and his transgression.

I have suspected for a long time that the visitations and visions that Joseph and Oliver experienced behind the veil had to do not only with a blessing, but also with a cursing.

In other words, I have felt like the 16 short verses contained in section 110 were not only missing some extremely important aspects of what took place behind the veil, they actually send the surface reader in the wrong direction, on a wild goose chase of sorts.

I have suspected that section 110 is intimately connected with the blessing and the curse the Moses prophesied would fall upon latter day Israel in Deuteronomy 30:30

AND it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath driven thee..”

The above passage is not only acknowledging that latter day Israel will receive both a blessing and a curse, Moses is prophesying that in the day when the apostate latter day saints “call them to mind“, (finally understand what took place and acknowledge their transgressions)  it would be a sign that the time has come for latter day Israel to repent and come out of spiritual and temporal captivity:

2  “And shalt return unto the LORD thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul;

3  That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath scattered thee.

4  If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the LORD thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee:

5  And the LORD thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers.

The Book of Mormon also speaks of the time when the gentile church will repent of their iniquity and become clean.

“Behold, I have written upon these plates the very things which the brother of Jared saw; and there never were greater things made manifest than those which were made manifest unto the brother of Jared.

5  Wherefore the Lord hath commanded me to write them; and I have written them.  And he commanded me that I should seal them up; and he also hath commanded that I should seal up the interpretation thereof; wherefore I have sealed up the interpreters, according to the commandment of the Lord.

6  For the Lord said unto me: They shall not go forth unto the Gentiles until the day that they shall repent of their iniquity, and become clean before the Lord.

7  And in that day that they shall exercise faith in me, saith the Lord, even as the brother of Jared did, that they may become sanctified in me, then will I manifest unto them the things which the brother of Jared saw, even to the unfolding unto them all my revelations, saith Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Father of the heavens and of the earth, and all things that in them are.

If the scenario I am presenting in this paper is true, the curse that was delayed as a result of an intercessory offering is now going forth and the marvelous work is about to begin and the dispensation of the fulness of times will be ushered in as a portion of believing Gentiles finally repent!

I have suspected that section 110 represents a message of doom and it involves a curse that is unleashed upon the earth. Nevertheless, because of an intercessory act, the curse is delayed.

I have speculated in the past that the short narrative contained in that section is incomplete and that there is some very important narrative missing from the document.

 The Missing Portion of Section 110

 I believe I have finally found the missing portion of this amazing revelation.

In essence, section 110 is not limited to the 16 verses contained in the Doctrine and Covenants.

I have discovered the other 55 verses that are part of that section.

In all, there are 71 verses that provide much more context and a much more detailed explanation of what was taking place and being revealed when Joseph and Oliver had their spiritual epiphany behind the veil.

As with so many of the hidden treasures of knowledge that we stumble upon, these missing passages have been in front of our eyes the whole time. We have been directed to them every time we read section 110, but we simply haven’t noticed or comprehended the directive because of the blindness that God has put over the eyes of Israel.

Paul spoke of this great mystery pertaining to the blindness that we are in.

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.” (Romans 11:25)

God has been withholding this information from us until an appointed time, until the fulness of the Gentiles comes in again.

I am going to suggest that if what I am about to detail from the additional 55 verses is true, then, it explains and answers all of the questions I posed at the beginning of this commentary on the 1st secret historical event that I am addressing.


It explains why God commanded Joseph and Oliver to not tell about their experience behind the veil publicly.

I am also suggesting that the fact that God is now finally opening our eyes and revealing it to us, is a sign that the fulness of the Gentiles is about to come in and the servants of God are about to return in time to fulfill the parable of the redemption of Zion (section 101) and to set forth clearly and understandingly what the desolation of abomination is and who we can escape the curse that is going forth. (section 84:117)

The key to finding the additional information pertaining to what was revealed behind the veil is embedded in section 110.

Here is the key to finding the remaining 55 verses of section 110:

Behold, the time has fully come, which was spoken of by the mouth of Malachi—testifying that he [Elijah] should be sent, before the great and dreadful day of the Lord come—

15  To turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the children to the fathers, lest the whole earth be smitten with a curse—

16  Therefore, the keys of this dispensation are committed into your hands; and by this ye may know that the great and dreadful day of the Lord is near, even at the doors.”


We are being told that the appearance of Christ and three ministering angels and every corresponding event that took place behind the veil on April 3rd 1836 marks the appointed time when the words spoken by Malachi have been fulfilled.

In the past I have made the mistake of assuming that section 110 was only directing me to the last three verses in Malachi, having to do with Elijah being sent before the great and dreadful day of the Lord.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

By assuming that, I completely missed out on the context of what was being said.

I have now come to realize that all four chapters of Malachi represent a cohesive storyline and that all of the context is applicable to understanding what took place behind the veil on April 3rd 1836.

Any one verse in the four chapters is ambiguous if not unintelligible by itself.

It is critical to have a contextual understanding. One must read all four chapters to fully comprehend what is being communicated.

Perhaps the most blatant and obvious passage in the four chapters that is actually describing the visitation of Christ to Joseph and Oliver behind the veil is chapter 3 verse one:

BEHOLD, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.”

Again, it is important to remember that ancient prophecies usually have dual if not multiple fulfillments. The Above passage also applies to a future event to take place in Kirtland as well.

 The Messenger

 Who is the messenger described in this passage?

To understand this, we need to read the previous two chapters to get come clues.

Please notice that the term “my messenger” shows up in the previous chapter.

Chapter 2 of Malachi reveals some amazing and disruptive information about God’s messenger that is spoken about in chapter 3.

But wait, we may as well go all the way back to the beginning of chapter one for context and then we will work our way forward to get the juicy details about God’s messengers.

I don’t have time to do a commentary on all passages in the entire four chapters so I will highlight some of the juicy parts

 A Message of Doom

 Chapter one begins speaking of the “burden” of the word of the Lord to Israel by Malachi. Some commentators replace the word burden with “doom”.

God Curses Our Blessings

 Remember the blessing and cursing prophecy that Moses gave about the latter day Israel in Deuteronomy 30?

Look at this!

If ye will not hear, and if ye will not lay it to heart, to give glory unto my name, saith the LORD of hosts, I will even send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings: yea, I have cursed them already, because ye do not lay it to heart.”

God is cursing the blessings of Israel. This is one of the major things that section 110 is pointing us to.

Could this possibly explain why the major gifts of the spirit associated with the fulness of the gospel have not been present in the church since the early days of Kirtland?

Yes a blessing was pronounced behind the veil, but then it was cursed.

God has Corrupted the Seed of the Latter day Israel

 God is going to allow “one” to lead the seed of latter day Israel away and corrupt them with false doctrine and priestcraft.

Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces, even the dung of your solemn feasts; and one shall take you away with it.”

 The Covenant of Levi

 Joseph and Oliver were designated as the first and second elders of the restored church. They were also referred to as the “sons of Levi” that were to offer an offering unto the Lord.

In this narrative, Joseph God’s latter day servant is referred to as the recipient of the covenant of Levi that received the covenant of life and peace.

The Law of Truth was in his Mouth

He is the latter day servant that initially turned many away from iniquity.

And ye shall know that I have sent this commandment unto you, that my covenant might be with Levi, saith the LORD of hosts.

 My covenant was with him of life and peace; and I gave them to him for the fear wherewith he feared me, and was afraid before my name.

 The law of truth was in his mouth, and iniquity was not found in his lips: he walked with me in peace and equity, and did turn many away from iniquity“.

This great Levitic Priest is the messenger of the Lord that is to seek the law. Joseph The latter day servant is the one who was commanded to lead the saints to Kirtland where they would receive the law of the Lord containing the law of consecration and the law of monogamy. He was then to lead them to Zion where they would live the law.

“For the priest’s lips should keep knowledge, and they should seek the law at his mouth: for he is the messenger of the LORD of hosts.”

 Ye Are Departed Out of the Way

 One of the primary burdens that Malachi needed to reveal is the fact that Joseph God’s latter day servant would depart out of the way shortly after bringing forth the law. He would ultimately cause many to stumble:

” But ye are departed out of the way; ye have caused many to stumble at the law; ye have corrupted the covenant of Levi, saith the LORD of hosts.”

Can anyone dispute the fact that Joseph God’s latter day servant did in fact initially introduce “the LAW” in Kirtland which contained the law of monogamy and then, over a decade later he secretly began to introduce a contradictory law, which caused many saints to depart out of the way from the true law?

[Those who don’t believe that Joseph ever taught or practiced polygamy may want to read this]

 God Made Joseph God’s Servant
Contemptible in the Eyes of the World

 ” Therefore have I also made you contemptible and base before all the people, according as ye have not kept my ways, but have been partial in the law.”

This prophecy is unbe-freakin-lievable.

Does the world not consider Joseph Smith to have been contemptible and base when they learn of his secret spiritual wifery in Nauvoo?

How many  ex-Mormons and anti-Mormons have accused Joseph God’s latter day servant of being a vile, immoral, base, and corrupt?

Truly Joseph Smith God’s servant of the latter days is considered, base and contemptible by many many people.

This is exactly why Moroni had prophesied well over a decade earlier that the name of God’s servant would be had for good and evil.

According to Malachi, God’s latter day servant began his ministry doing good. He then began doing evil and leading people into error.

Joseph  God’s Servant Committed an Abomination
Joseph God’s Servant Committed Treachery
Against Emma the Wife of his Youth

10  Have we not all one father?  hath not one God created us?  why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?

11  ¶ Judah hath dealt treacherously, and an abomination is committed in Israel and in Jerusalem; for Judah hath profaned the holiness of the LORD which he loved, and hath married the daughter of a strange god.

14  ¶ Yet ye say, Wherefore?  Because the LORD hath been witness between thee and the wife of thy youth, against whom thou hast dealt treacherously: yet is she thy companion, and the wife of thy covenant.

15  And did not he make one?  Yet had he the residue of the spirit.  And wherefore one?  That he might seek a godly seed.  Therefore take heed to your spirit, and let none deal treacherously against the wife of his youth.

This is what I believe Oliver’s secret was. The Lord revealed to Oliver that Joseph’s relationship with Fanny Alger, whether it was a polygamous marriage or not, was in violation of God’s law on Marriage as contained in section 42. Oliver realized that Joseph’s struggle with the angel resulted in him committing treachery against the wife of his youth.

Malachi testifies that Joseph God’s messenger will be cut off for committing treachery against the wife of his covenant.

 Joseph God’s Messenger will be “Cut Off”
Because of His Treachery Against Emma his  Wife

12  The LORD will cut off the man that doeth this, the master and the scholar, out of the tabernacles of Jacob, and him that offereth an offering unto the LORD of hosts.

13  And this have ye done again, covering the altar of the LORD with tears, with weeping, and with crying out, insomuch that he regardeth not the offering any more, or receiveth it with good will at your hand.

Was he not cut off from among the living?

Was it not his secret “measures” and the abomination of marriage and taking young girls and other mens wives that played a significant role in the controversy in Nauvoo?

Ok.. this brings us up to chapter 3:1

BEHOLD, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.”

 Elijah the Preparer and Elijah the Restorer

 Who is the servant that prepares the way in the above passage?

The storyline indicates that the servant in Malachi 3:1 is the same servant in Malachi chapter 2. It is Joseph the latter day Davidic servant that begins his ministry by turning many away from iniquity but then he departs out of the way and caused many to stumble.

Nevertheless, we know that prophecies usually have multiple fulfillments including both a literal and shadow fulfillment and in some cases, additional types.

Regarding God’s servant that comes to prepare the way, there is another secret that we will discuss more fully later in this series but for now let me just summarize by saying that Joseph Smith revealed that Elijah the preparer is the Elijah of the Old Testament who was transmigrated into the New Testament as John the Baptist to prepare the way before Christ.

“And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things, as the prophets have written.

And again I say unto you that Elias has come already, concerning whom it is written, Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me; and they knew him not, and have done unto him, whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of Man suffer of them.

But I say unto you, Who is Elias? Behold, this is Elias, whom I send to prepare the way before me. Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist, and also of another who should come and restore all things, as it is written by the prophets. JST Matt. 17: 10-14

After preparing the way before Christ in the meridian of time, John the Baptist made an appearance on the Mount of Transfiguration and also during the restoration movement to bestow the priesthood keys of Levi upon Joseph and Oliver.

He did this physically, by hand. (section 13 and JS history).

It appears that Joseph got the keys from Elijah the preparer and became Elijah the Restorer as a result of what happened in section 13 and 110.

This is why the angel Moroni modified the following verse when he quoted it to Joseph Smith and yet Joseph did not change it when be translated the Inspired Version of the Bible:

These passages from Moroni were referring to John the Baptist who is  Elijah the Preparer who bestowed the priesthood by hand upon the sons of Levi:

And again, he quoted the fifth verse thus: Behold, I will reveal unto you the Priesthood, by the hand of Elijah the prophet, before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.

39 He also quoted the next verse differently: And he shall plant in the hearts of the children the Promises made to the fathers, and the hearts of the children shall turn to their fathers. If it were not so, the whole earth would be utterly wasted at his coming.”

The words of Malachi in the King James Bible and also in the inspired version do not match the above changes made by Moroni because they refer to Joseph, the latter day messenger who is Elijah the Restorer.

The grand secret regarding the fulfillment of Malachi 3:1 on April 3 1836 is that the covenant that Christ secretly restored, that the saints delighted in,  was the old testament gospel covenant of Abraham.

The latter day saints delighted in that covenant because they had failed to accept the higher law and see the face of God, and they had rejected the fulness of the gospel and they wanted a lesser gospel of carnal works.

The Lord provide an incredible descriptive of what the gospel of Abraham contains from section 84:

“For without this no man can see the face of God, even the Father, and live.

23  Now this Moses plainly taught to the children of Israel in the wilderness, and sought diligently to sanctify his people that they might behold the face of God;

24  But they hardened their hearts and could not endure his presence; therefore, the Lord in his wrath, for his anger was kindled against them, swore that they should not enter into his rest while in the wilderness, which rest is the fulness of his glory.

25  Therefore, he took Moses out of their midst, and the Holy Priesthood also;

26  And the lesser priesthood continued, which priesthood holdeth the key of the ministering of angels and the preparatory gospel;

27  Which gospel is the gospel of repentance and of baptism, and the remission of sins, and the law of carnal commandments, which the Lord in his wrath caused to continue with the house of Aaron among the children of Israel until John, whom God raised up, being filled with the Holy Ghost from his mother’s womb.”
I realize that some people are going to challenge the possibility that God would allow a true prophet to reveal the law and do great things and then stumble and break the law himself and lead people astray.

The storyline gets even more unbelievable when the fallen servant returns from the dead to fulfill his prophetic assignments.

When a second fulfillment of the passage takes place, the repentant latter day saints will delight in the fulness of the Gospel Covenant.

I would submit however, that as bizarre as this storyline may appear, it is a recurring theme in the Old Testament. There are multiple accounts of it and that Joseph Smith is the only person that fits the profile.

Click here for additional documentation to support this prophetic scenario of the last great servant that stumbles and then recovers.


It is therefore, dear reader, my conclusion that Joseph and Oliver were commanded by God to not publicly reveal what happened behind the veil on April 3rd 1836 because it represented not only a blessing, but an associated cursing. It involved the ushering in of the preparatory gospel of Abraham to an obstinate people, instead of the expected ushering in of the dispensation of the fulness of times.


I believe it was revealed to Oliver Cowdery from a vision he had as well as the content contained in the four chapters of Malachi, that Joseph Smith was wrestling with an angel that was giving a false commandment. A commandment the contradicted the previous commandment of God. One that would result in Joseph Smith committing the act of treachery against the wife of his youth, even the wife of his covenant.

Obedience to the commandment of an angel that was contrary to the law of God would cause Joseph and many of the saints to “depart out of the way” and “stumble at the law” and “corrupt the covenant of Levi“.

Clearly, Joseph and Oliver would have gladly revealed what had taken place behind the veil had the event not resulted in a message of doom and cursing.

Goodness knows that the saints desperately needed validation about their status before the Lord.

The saints were in shock and confusion because of the non-event that had take place a week earlier.

The saints had gathered together in a solemn assembly with the promise that the pure in heart would all see God.

As documented by Karl Anderson in his book “The Savior in Kirtland”, not one soul saw God during the solemn and sobering event.

The Church desperately needed some kind of reassurance that God was looking upon them favorably.

They desperately needed Joseph and Oliver to reassure them that Christ had appeared and that the temple was accepted and that all was well.

Indeed Christ did appear and accept the temple and forgive Joseph and Oliver for their sins and pronounce a blessing. Unfortunately, He cursed their blessings also.

He did this in fulfillment of the prophecies contained in Deuteronomy, Malachi, Isaiah and other places in the bible.

Four generations of apostasy needed to expire before the ultimate promises and purposes of the Kirtland Temple could be realized.

It is now time for blindness to be taken off of latter day Israel.

Watch for the return of the servants and keep you eye on the Kirtland Temple.


Another topic closely related to the secret veil experience of Joseph and Oliver has to do with the taking of the knowledge of the gospel from the Gentiles to the House of Israel as prophesied by Christ.

For more in that topic, see this series







37 Responses to Oliver’s Secret

  1. Gospel Infant says:

    This is very interesting stuff and makes a lot of sense, but I am still just a little confused about who the Elias is in D&C 110:12 who appeared and committed the dispensation of Abraham to Joseph and Oliver vice the Elijah who appeared in verse 13

    • Gospel Infant

      Very important question that I should have addressed in the post.

      Thank you for catching that.

      Yes it is very confusing because Joseph Smith used the term Elias independently of the term Elijah in section 110.


      “Elias is merely the Greek name of the Hebrew prophet “Elijah”

      Joseph did something quite strange in section 110. He used two different terms that previously were synonymous, to represent two separate and distinct historical characters.

      The best I have been able to come up with is that Christ taught in the New Testament that the term Elias (Elijah) also means forerunner.

      Therefore, IMHO, Joseph used the original term of “Elijah” to represent the Old Testament prophet that also showed up in the New Testament as the Baptist.

      He chose to use the term Elias generically to refer to a forerunner for a different person to disguise who the messenger was.

      This is completely consistent with God’s intent to keep the saints in the dark, and blindness over Israel, even after the content of section 110 was found and canonized.

      I believe Elias was none other than Abraham.

      After all, Mose personally delivered the keys that he held rather than sending an errand boy. Why would Abraham not personally deliver the keys of the dispensation of the gospel of Abraham.

      If it was so blatantly explained that Abraham personally showed up, saints of an earlier generation might have figured out that they were being downgraded to the covenant of Abraham from the fulness of the gospel of Christ.

      I wrote a little more extensively on this topic prior to the flood. If I can find that particular diatribe, I put a link to it here.

      To see an LDS apologetic response to the Elias/Elijah dilemma, please see the following article


      Thank you for a very insightful observation.


  2. Gospel Infant says:


    Thank you for your reply to my question. Previously, I had also believed that it was Abraham, but I never clear picture of why it would be necessary for Abraham to be committing his dispensation to Joseph and Oliver. At least information in this article provides some real insights into why that would be necessary.

    As part of my studying this article, I followed some of the links which further led my to your spiritual wife doctrine articles. This may ot be the proper place for a couple of comments about that, but if you will humor me I have a comments that I have about those articles. If you would prefer to take those comments offline or just link me to other articles where you have addressed them, I certainly understand that.

    The more I have read section 132 of the D&C, the less I believe that the section mandates polygyny as a requirement for exaltation unless one defines the New and Everlasting Covenant as having more than one wife, which I don’t read into section 132. In fact, in verses 15, 18 and 19, the Lord specifically refers to “if a man marry him a wife” –not necessarily a wife or wives. The only fly in the ointment that I have found in section 132 is found in verses 32-34 where the Lord tells Joseph to do the works of Abraham and then explains that He “commanded Abraham and Sarah gave Hagar to Abraham to wife.” But that doesn’t exactly explain what He commanded Abraham.

    It would be interesting to me to hear your views on how a man and woman actually become “one flesh.” I have wrestled with that for quite some time exactly what that means: does that mean that we revert to being like Adam in the very beginning, one physical being both male and female — and exactly what does that mean? Anyway, my head spins when I try to envision what that means.

    Again, thank you for responding to my earlier comment and thank you for sharing your many years of researching/studying/formulating ideas, etc. with us. They are very thought provoking and very insightful.

    Gospel Infant

  3. djk says:

    I enjoy your writings which leads me to ponder things and ask a lot of questions. I’m reading Malachi again and pondering your ideas above.

    One thing that’s on my mind is I wonder if that sacred meeting even took place in Kirtland after all. In Nauvoo, Joseph mentioned that Elijah’s coming was a future event, so this doesn’t add up to me. Now that doesn’t mean that Elijah couldn’t visit with Joseph and Oliver, but I still wonder.

    Also, since there’s no record of it anywhere by anyone except the Warren Cowdery writing, I wonder the validity of it. First, if it was something that was supposed to be hush, hush, why even have Warren Cowdery record the incident? Personally, I would record information about it privately and lock it away rather than trust Warren Cowdery with the information, especailly if I was told to be silent about it. Second, both Joseph and Oliver have no reservations about discussing previous sacred encounters, so why be so hesitant about this one? Third, Joseph mentioned at other times that he wasn’t going to reveal certain things to the saints, so why could he not just say something like, “I’m going to keep what happened on April 3, 1836 in my bosom at present?” Or he could touch on something regarding it and say, “I could reveal a hundred times more about the Kirtland meeting, if you were prepared to receive it.” Fourth, many people claim Joseph received sealing power from Elijah at that time, but Joseph was sealing people up to eternal life long before that. Fifth, how the writing came about and was found is suspect as well, in my opinion. I’m not entirely sure what can be trusted as legitimate when it comes to revelations popping up from nowhere. Who knows what may have been compromised or made up to keep people in line?

    Now, I’ll continue to search, ponder and pray over the matter and am open to any answer I receive from above but considering the above, I do wonder. Thanks again for the writing and I’m looking forward to forthcoming entries.

  4. SeekingtobeAstonished says:

    I know this is a little off topic for this blog. But I am interested…
    Could you take a look at this article? I am interested in your thoughts.

    • That was written by an ex-Mormon who had lost his faith in the restoration, and has since passed away.

      The blog it is republished on is an anti-Mormon blog with a very deceptive name, to lure unsuspecting Mormons into the dialogue. They are doing exactly what John Dehlin does. They are appearing to be something they are not so as to lure unsuspecting people into controversial information about the church.

      There is actually some very good research in the article.

      I enjoyed reading it as far as I got.

      I find that I learn much more from those kinds of critical articles than I do from the sanitized and revised history of the church.

      I don’t have the time to read and digest the whole article right now but would be happy to respond to any specific questions you have about it.

      I can point out two very serious blind spots that Mr. Farkus made which skews the logic and accuracy of his diatribe.

      1st- He falsely assumes that there are only two priesthoods.

      In a sense, it is not his fault since he is building the foundation of his arguments based on what the modern corporate church taught him.

      Nevertheless, if he understood what happened in June of 1831 with regard to the 3rd and highest priesthood, it would have thrown an industrial strength wrench in his thesis.

      It is understandable that he did not identify the significance of that event. I have been studying the history of the church for 25 years and frankly I did not learn about the restoration of the Melchizedek priesthood at the Morley Farm until just a few short years ago.

      I did, however, understand that there were three separate and distinct priesthoods from the sermon that JS gave in Nauvoo on the topic.

      If you have not read the series on the Morley Farm, you need to read it. and you will see why this article is completely off kilter.

      The first article in the series is here.


      the links for the rest of the article in the series can be found here.

      Click to access blog-listing.pdf

      The second blind spot in the article has to do with the fact that the author assumes that the 1835 D&C was supposed to be an updated version of the 1833 Book of Commandments.

      Based on that assumption, the changes made in the revelations in the D&C appear to be very sinister and devious.

      However, the D&C was never meant to be an updated version of the Book of Commandments. The Book of Commandments was published for the restored “Church of Christ” and it was published before the saints had rejected the fulness of the gospel.

      The D&C was published for the “Church of the Latter day Saints” and it was published AFTER the saints had rejected the fulness of the Gospel and after the name of Christ had been removed from the name of the church.

      Once this is understood, the changes made in the D&C make perfect sense and are very inspired and revelatory.

      Interestingly, this is the topic of my next secret historical fact that I am doing on the other site.


  5. SeekingtobeAstonished says:

    What caught my eye and is something that you point out — is the difference between Priesthood understanding in the Church of Christ (governed by the Book of Commandments) and the understanding of priesthood that developed after the saints rejected the fulness.

    We are so guilty of reading the revelations and interpreting them according to modern day understanding.

    It seems clear that the saints, prior to June 1831, did not discuss their authority in the vernacular of priesthood as we do today. That much I can agree with David Whitmer on. In fact, it would appear that June 1831 represents the first time that an “order” of the “priesthood” had been mentioned at all. I am unable to find any prior writing or discoursing on “priesthood” before this time. Of course, with the exception of Alma 13 and the JST Genesis 14.

    This article points out that the ‘accounts’ of John and Peter, James and John were published and expounded during the time period of most trouble for the latter-day saints — post expulsion from Jackson county — a dark time to say the least.

    During a time when High Priesthood would simply become an ‘office’ lacking any power.

    Though prior to 1831, the officers of the church (deacon, teacher, priest, elder) may have been acting under an established priesthood order (ie. Aaron or Moses) — they did not realize it at the time.

    D&C 20; Moroni 1-6; and D&C 42 say nothing about priesthood authority. Early church authority was ‘in the name of Jesus Christ’ (see Moroni 3:3) and their power derived from the Holy Ghost which was in the one who was ordaining them. (D&C 20:60). This is the pattern found in the Book of Mormon and I am assuming it was one of the reason the book was translated.

    The priesthood prior to June 1831 more fully follows along the lines of the Book of Mormon — generalized authority, with the appearance of the High Priest whose duty was to teach others how to come into the rest of the Lord, or his presence. (see Alma 13)

    September of 1832 brings with it the revelation in section 84. Here things get complicated from our perspective but I have to assume it was much easier to understand from their perspective. But even at this time, we are beginning the down hill fall into apostasy. And by 1835 when D&C 107 is dictated — we are in full blown apostasy from the fulness.

    So, is the current priesthood paradigm just a great stumbling block that the Lord has delivered to us in place of the purity of the fulness of the priesthood? (Jacob 4:14)

    Is the process really so simple that it could be summed up as follows from teachings of the Book of Mormon?

    1. Men are called, on account of the foreknowledge of God, from the foundation of the world to become high priests in mortality. (Alma 13:3-5).

    2. These individuals are sent into the vineyard as unregenerate mortal men at the time the Lord designs. Because of their faith in Christ, repentance and good works, angels appear to them and administer to them the everlasting covenant. They are washed clean and receive the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost. They become sanctified. They enter into the presence of the Lord. They are the chosen vessels of the Lord. (see Moroni 7:30-31; Alma 13:10-12)

    3. These high priests, having entered into the rest of the Lord, become His sons, enter also into His order and become administrators themselves. (see Alma 13:1, 6-9; Moses 6:67-68).

    4. Now, having been endowed with power (the fulness of the priesthood, the same enjoyed by the angels before them) they act as teachers, in the place of angels, to bring others into the presence of the Lord (the fulness of the gospel). The are ministers of the everlasting covenant of the father. (see Alma 13:6)

    4. They do this by teaching faith in Christ, repentance and good works.

    5. When their message is accepted, they administer the everlasting covenant and lay on hands; for they have been “ordained and sealed unto this power”. (see D&C 76:52; Alma 13:6)

    6. “And after this manner bringeth to pass the Father, the covenants which he math made unto the children of men.” (D&C 7:32)

    This seems to be the simple method Joseph was endeavoring to employ during his early ministry. He might have gotten the horse ahead of the cart as he organized a church first — it ended up being comprised of ‘unbelieving Gentiles’ who doubted the fulness.

    In Book of Mormon times, the church was established to nourish those who had been wrought upon by the Holy Ghost. Today, the church has become the end reward in and of itself — replacing the Holy Ghost altogether — a great stumbling block in deed.

    “…we believe that thou hast elected us to be thy holy children…and thou has elected us that we shall be saved, whilst all around us are elected to be cast by thy wrath down to hell…And again we thank thee, O God, that we are a chosen and a holy people.” (Alma 31:15-18)

    I love your presentation on the 23 High Priests — fantastic. I have read it multiple times. I was able to pull so much from it.

    It just seems that among other people who had the fulness — things were so much simpler (ie. Adam and God). But God has delivered unto us, things we don’t understand, because that is what we prefer — let me paraphrase:

    “But behold, the [Saints of the Latter-days] were a stiffnecked people; and they despised the words of plainness, and killed the prophets, and sought for things that they could not understand. Wherefore, because of their blindness, which blindness came by looking beyond the mark, they must needs fall; for God hath taken away is plainness from them, and delivered unto them many things which they cannot understand, because they desire it. And because they desired it God hath done it, that they may stumble” (Jacob 4:14).

    The Gentiles wanted a Church. They wanted a church just like the Israelites wanted a King. It would make them LEGIT. Israel got a King . . .we got a Church.

    Bottom line. Joseph was endeavoring to establish Zion. He was going to do so by restoring the Order of Melchizedek. Before failing at that endeavor, discussion of the other two priesthoods wasn’t even an issue — because it wasn’t the goal. Zion requires the presence of Christ — it requires people who have been sanctified and can live in his presence. He was going for the goal.

    With the Gentile rejection and the church coming under condemnation — he turns to the relevancy of the two lower priesthoods as a way to “preserve” the church and they would then become the vehicle for taking the preparatory gospel (versus the fulness) to the House of Israel.

    If this is a waste of your time, I apologize. What do you think?


    • Holy Moly-

      I am going to have to just declare marshal law in this blog so that I can steal your comments, make a blog post out of them, and take credit for it.

      That is a very succinct explanation of what happened. One that would have taken me ten times longer to explain.

      Let me know when you want the pass codes to this blog and you can just take over. LOL

      Your summary reminds me of listening to a lecture by Mike Quinn a few decades ago when he differentiated between the simple gospel and priesthood structure of the first few years from the complex and somewhat convoluted one the evolved after the fulness was rejected.

      (of course Quinn did not provide the context of the fulness being rejected, but he did do a magnificent job of showing the transition from simple to complex theology and priesthood structure)

      Interestingly, the term “Melchizedek Priesthood” was virtually never used prior to the Conference at the Morley Farm. The priesthood that was restored by Peter James and John was not originally introduced as the “Melchizedek” priesthood, that came years later and was retroactively put into some of the early revelations.

      Waste of my time?!?! Are you freakin kidding me? Keep it coming bro-



      ” Men are called, on account of the foreknowledge of God, from the foundation of the world to become high priests in mortality. (Alma 13:3-5).”

      That amazing doctrine of being called according to the foreknowledge of God from the foundation of the world is what the NT is speaking about when it speaks of the doctrine of predestination. (which the JST does not alter) our faith and actions in this life are but a mirror of what it was in the pre-existence.

  6. SeekingtobeAstonished says:

    Awesome, thanks Watcher. Feel free to use anything you want and change it anyway you want. I don’t take any credit — love this whole anonymous thing! Again, you have brought so many ideas together — so many disconnects for me are making more and more sense. Thank you again for all you effort — I look forward to reviewing your existing articles again and I am really looking forward to the ones that you are currently working on.

    You started a post a while back about difficult early Mormon doctrines that have fallen by the wayside — any intent to continue or would you mind sharing info from that blog that you haven’t posted yet?


  7. Ty says:

    Great post Watcher – It’s been a favorite. You touched on some things that I had struggled with for a long time. I remember the first time several years ago when I had read about the account of the angel visiting Joseph and commanding him with a drawn sword to take more wives. I still remember the sick feeling in my gut when I read those words. I remember thinking “what the hell” (and I usually don’t ever swear) and I remember thinking if this is how the Lord operates I don’t want anything to do with it.

    The confusion was even greater considering the accounts of these poor tender hearted women. Many of them were repulsed and sickened when they were asked to become a plural wife to the prophet. But then, in some accounts they then claim to have had a “spiritual” manifestation on the “truthfulness” of their future marriage. What a confusing mess.

    It is so so important to know the scriptures. Thanks for your help in bringing these things to light. It is so important to understand that God will not give a revelation that is in conflict with a previous revelation. And that we can receive revelation for ourselves in our Heart AND in our Mind. It has to be in both.

    I have come to the conclusion that these poor women who married Joseph had also been deceived. If Joseph had been deceived, why not these poor women. A spiritual manifestation is just that, a manifestation of something spiritual – evil or good. And the devil is a good deceiver. To gain a testimony and knowledge of the scriptures is vital in understanding true things – and then receive a confirmation in our heart and mind through the holy ghost.

    If one of the greatest prophets could be deceived, how much more we need to be on our guard – continually watching, praying, and always remembering “our own nothingness” (staying humble – something that I need to work more on).

    Thanks again

  8. LK says:


    I agree that the Church is in a deep apostasy since Joseph Smith and the leaders today have no authority anymore than any other church on earth does.

    You seem to understand, and have stated, that prophets can’t teach contrary revelation to what has already been given and that which is in the scriptures or contrary to Christ’s teachings, yet you don’t seem to believe that Joseph understood or lived by his own teachings of this.

    Joseph taught that those who do preach or practice contrary to the scriptures are ‘imposters’, false teachers, even false prophets who should be shunned and not listened to. So if Joseph did such, taught false doctrine, then he was also a false or fallen prophet, especially if he preached or practiced such serious abominations as polygamy, which I don’t believe he did.

    I believe in the pure testimony of Joseph Smith, despite all the rumors and hearsay against him, usually by evil or easily deceived people. Why do I believe him and not them? Because of his fruits and the way he lived and the Gospel he taught and the way he treated and loved Emma. If you know what true love looks like you can see if other’s have it or not. I believe he possessed true love for Emma and thus would not have ever done such vile and abusive things to her and his children or other women.

    But you apparently believe he did and thus fell from his high station as Prophet. For if you think Joseph remained a true prophet after abusing Emma in some of the worse of ways and committing adultery on her repeatedly, then with such ‘true’ prophets you don’t need ‘false’ ones. For if Joseph lied and really did such things, no false prophet was worse than he was, Yet you seem to want to give him a pass and still maintain he was a true prophet, just with some faults and brush off how awful the things he supposedly did were.

    If you believe true prophets can commit atrocious abuse and adultery and still remain true prophets and maintain their power and authority and expect anyone through all time to give them a second’s notice, then I don’t know what to say to that, it’s utterly appalling to me. Why would I ever listen to or put trust in a man who is so evil? How could I believe in such a God who would expect such a thing or have such men as Prophets or leaders?

    You do not seem to understand how God expects men and especially true prophets to treat women, especially their wives, and the eternal consequences for them if they don’t live up to his standards.

    If Joseph fell and did such vile things as you believe he did, then he was one of the worst false or fallen prophets that ever lived, just as Brigham Young was and all those leaders who followed after him were.

    If you don’t believe polygamy was a true principle, then I don’t understand why you would have any trust or faith in anything Brigham Young put out after Joseph died, like D&C 110. That would be like accepting scripture from Warren Jeffs and him saying it was from Joseph. Do you not realize that BY could and would have easily doctored that journal and made up that story about the angels to further his own agenda, to look like he had keys?

    D&C 110 may or may not be true, but from what I see it appears to come from such a shaky foundation that we would be foolish to put any stock in it, let alone build our beliefs around it. We can’t automatically trust anything that BY put out after Joseph died. Yes, BY did teach true things, but they were so mixed in with falsehoods that it is impossible to discern his truth from error unless one has the Holy Spirit as their guide and Charity.

    I would sooner believe that Oliver C. was in error than Joseph. For I believe Joseph proved to have true love for Emma, (which is a vital requirement of a true prophet) despite what all the story books say and the mounds of hearsay against him, which should totally be expected if he was a true prophet, for all hell would break loose trying to discredit him and make him look bad.

    You appear to believe Joseph was one of the worst of men, an extremely abusive adulterous liar who was completely past feeling. Such men do not repent in this life, except by a miracle.

    Do you realize that one day you will have to stand before Joseph and explain to him why you refused to believe him and his humble testimony, and instead chose to believe the vilest of hearsay against him, usually from those who did the vilest of evils, which he gave his life fighting against?

    If Joseph really fell for such whoredoms, I believe he is standing in Spirit Prison now and would consider anyone foolish to trust anything he ever published or taught.

    God especially would not expect or want anyone to listen to anyone who would do such things. Prophets have to prove their are of such high standing and near perfect and have true Christlike Charity, especially for their wife or they can’t expect anyone to listen to them.

    Yes, Joseph was not perfect, but he was close. Being deceived to put evil men into high callings or fall for false revelation for a short time is not near the level of the atrocity of committing whoredoms. Even true followers of Christ are deceived at times, but they soon catch themselves because they have the Spirit to warn them that something is not right and they need to look further into things or the Spirit teaches them how they were wrong. But true followers of Christ, true prophets don’t fall for whoredoms or abuse wives or women, and if they do they aren’t true prophets anymore. Many true prophets throughout history have fallen and become fallen prophets and lost their exaltation.

    But I believe Joseph was too wise and to good to fall for polygamy, or even an angel who might come demanding it, he would have known instantly that it was a bad angel preaching whoredoms that were completely contrary to God’s laws. He would have not given a moment’s notice to such an angel.

    Could he have fallen for polygamy anyway, because of the weakness of the flesh? Certainly, but I see no proof whatsoever that he weakened and fell, he proved himself over and over to be strong enough to give the greatest of sacrifices and wise enough to teach the greatest of doctrines, which a fallen man would not have been strong or wise enough to do.

    One last thing, Christ clearly taught that it takes true unconditional love, especially for one’s spouse, to be or discern true prophets, let alone discern right from wrong, true scripture from false scripture and devils from saints.

    Without such charity, we are nothing and have no power, promise or ability to discern, and we will always and easily be deceived by false prophets and false doctrines and false revelation, thinking them to be true and thinking ourselves to be right and righteous.

    Before we ever seek to discern truth from error in church history or in the scriptures or in those around us, we must make sure we possess this charity, this Christlike true love, especially for our spouse. It has always been very rare to find anyone throughout the history of the world who possesses such love, even prophets usually don’t possess it as needed and that is why many of them have fallen and been so easily deceived by devils.

    Are you fireproof? Do you have true love for your wife? Do you live to love and serve her every wish before you own, all day long? Perhaps you do. I certainly commend you if you do.

    But if we don’t possess such everlasting unconditional love, (most LDS don’t even ‘believe’ in it anymore today), then we can’t trust ourselves to see or discern correctly yet or be able to judge true prophets from false ones. For it takes a true prophet to know a true prophet. Those who posses true charity, true love, are prophets, it’s that hard and rare to possess.

    • LK

      I really appreciate your remarks and I think you are totally justified in feeling the way you do.

      I think your remarks are a good reminder to me of what people think when they read one of my posts with an advanced topic without first having been exposed to the critical foundational concepts that have been covered in previous posts.

      My guess is that out about 300 blog posts that I have written, you have probably not read very many other ones and therefore don’t have much foundation for what I am trying to say.

      This is unfortunate because you are unable to understand the full context of what I am saying if you have not read a number of other blogs.

      I provided a link at the end of this article that helps provide some context. I don’t blame you for not clicking on it because you were probably tired of reading and probably a little frustrated with some of the things I said, nevertheless, to understand this article a little better, you really need to read the article at the following link


      Even after reading that, there are still numerous posts that would be helpful for you to read if you desire to better understand what I am saying.

      Nobody thinks more highly of Joseph Smith than I do. I believe he is still the prophet of this generation and I believe he is going to return and successfully complete his mission.

      I don’t think he is personally responsible for the sins he committed because I believe they were artificially placed on his head AFTER HE BECAME SANCTIFIED AND HAD HIS CALLING AND ELECTION MADE SURE.

      Joseph was different than any other prophet that ever lived. Once you understand my beliefs regarding his unique role having to do with the “atonement statute”, hopefully you will not judge me harshly for what I wrote about in this post…. even if you disagree with my interpretation of the atonement statute, at least you will see that I am coming from quite a different place than you think I am.

      Joseph once said that he sinned outwardly but that inside, his thoughts were toward God… (I am paraphrasing)

      I think he may have been hinting about his very unique calling of having the sins of latter day Israel placed upon my head

      If you will take the time to read my post on the atonement statute you will realize that I don’t think Joseph fell from grace because of the natural evil intents of a natural sinful man… I believe he willingly agreed, in the pre-existence to be an intercessory servant in the last days to help latter day Israel avoid being wiped off the face of the earth.

      I would encourage you to read the link at the end of Oliver’s Secret to understand where I am coming from.

      I thank you for visiting and for your generosity in taking the time to share how the article made you feel.


  9. Ryan says:


    Where do you come up with this stuff?

    I mean, this is amazing!

    Who do you study or how do you come to these conclusions?

    I’d love to know.

  10. JennyP1969 says:

    Watcher…….I just have to ask. Are you actually Joseph, or Oliver, or Sidney?

    • JennyP1969

      Watcher…….I just have to ask. Are you actually Joseph, or Oliver, or Sidney?”

      If you are being serious, that is just about the nicest compliment anyone has ever given me. THank you.

      If you are being facetious, you have a delightful sense of humor. 😉

      Your comment reminds me of a statement my daughter made many years ago.

      We have a dear friend that has been studying with us for many many years. Mrs Watcher and I met him shortly after we were married and he was a few years younger than Mrs Watcher.

      He is one of the most Christ-like people that I have ever met and he was always going around finding people to help.

      For some reason, he has never gotten married.

      One day, years ago, my daughter said, “Dad, is Eric one of the three Nephites?

      Her sincere question still brings tears to my eyes when I think about it. LOL tear, LOL, tear, LOL tear.

      Anyway, Eric is now in his 50’s and still not married. If there are any heretical single women out there who are looking for a single man in that age range, that is a bit heretical, send me an email.

      (This is not like me to play cupid like this. I am not a match-maker type, normally… I don’t know what has gotten into me 😉 )

  11. Fusion says:

    LOL! I can only imagine your new website’s logo:

    ‘Because I am Matching…’


  12. Fusion says:

    …one in mind has already begun, Mrs. Watcher…even all across from Australia!

  13. Ryan says:

    Oliver shared in the keys jointly that Moses and Elias (Abraham) restored.

    Have you researched Oliver’s posterity and the promise that was given to him in D&C 110:12?

    12 After this, Elias appeared, and committed the dispensation of the gospel of Abraham, saying that in us and our seed all generations after us should be blessed. (D&C 110:12)

    • I have not done that research.

      I think the promise transends what has taken place during the last four generations.

      It is very important however to realize that Oliver jointly shares those keys and blessings. This is more evidence that Oliver must return. This is why the Lord did not say anything eternally negative about Oliver in section 124 when giving some of the same blessings to Hyrum and this is why Joseph wrote the letter to Oliver inviting him to return, using keywords from the parable of the prodigal son, indicating that Oliver would be reinstated and given the ring and the robe of his previous calling when he returns…

  14. JennyP1969 says:

    I ask in all sincerity. You know so much that helps — HELPS — those awakening. You don’t seek followers of yourself. You aren’t condemning of those still slumbering. You warn of the seriousness of these hard doctrines. I mean, you know too much to be “no one of consequence.”

    One night….well, early morning…after hours of studying, and after prayers I couldn’t sleep. I lay there pondering on the scapegoat doctrine and the return of these early restoration leaders — wondering how I would know they have returned. I thought how they will probably appear to the current church president, who will never tell us about it. Is “Hastening the Work” from Joseph? Is the change in missionary age?

    Anyway, laying there pondering these various things….my mind whirling all over the place….the thought came of how grateful I am for the blessings this blog has brought me, how it’s helped in various ways…..and then, the thought, What if this is Joseph’s blog and this is how the Lord awakens those who slumber, among other things?

    Nah, I thought. He has friends who know the couple. But Holy Cow! — what if Mrs. Watcher is my beloved Emma?! And Fusion is Sidney Rigdon?! And NEPT is Oliver?! And Fabledsog is Lyman Wight?!

    Yes, I have a terrific imagination. It has served me well.

    Whoever you all are, thanks for teaching me and blessing my life, my knowledge, my study, and understanding.

    Another question: What is the spirit of revelation? Is it different from revelation, itself? Like, the spirit of Christmas is not Christmas, itself, yet is there would be no real Christmas without it. If you have addressed this could you reference it? Thanks so much.

    • Jenny-

      I have always assumed that the spirit of revelation simply refers to the revelation that comes from the Holy Ghost.

      I think there are varying levels of revelation and that once the servants return and the ability to fully take the Holy Ghost as our guide is available, the level of revelation that we enjoy will be much greater than it is now.

      I know there are some people that believe that the first laborers of the last kingdom will return in the 3rd watch through the process of transmigration, rather than be literally returned in the flesh as they left this world. It is an interesting theory and I am not ruling anything out, in fact, I actually believe in the doctrine of transmigration (in highly unusual circumstances)and will be expounding on it in the near future, however, my gut feeling is that the servants will literally return in the flesh.

      I can assure you that if you were to interview anyone that knows me personally, they would attest to the fact that I am know one of consequence. My better half, on the other hand is indeed an angel from a higher dimension, but I don’t think she has ever gone by the name of Emma.

      Thanks for you kind words


  15. Fabledsog says:

    I know all of this can be overwhelming, and the mind opens up and wanders, which is a sign the shackles of the corrupt flesh are slowly coming off. But the shackles are still there until the curse of sin and its ugly cousin time, are no more upon us; and so one must be really careful of the thoughts that the carnal mind tends to produce. It would be wise to clear the mind and be still, for as the Lord says, “Be still and know that I am God.” How can one truly learn the mind of God, if one is not still enough to allow the still small voice to pierce our hearts? My mind is like a Rubik’s cube but to truly the solve the puzzle I must put it down, and allow the Spirit to take its course. So in essence i am saying that I have deceived myself sometimes by thinking too much. That is what I love about the Holy Spirit, the thinking has already been done for me, and I am not cursed for trusting the arm of flesh including my own. I just have to ponder on the answer already given to my mind and heart.

    With that said the work that is soon to break forth is marvelous and wondrous, and so the servants of that work will be marveled and wondered at by the whole world, even though they are wondered at by some now. The return of the servants will be dramatic, and when they return at the set time, it won’t be a question of where or who they are, it will be a question of whether to accept or reject the message that they will send, that salvation is near. The reading of D&C 1 and 133, not as a former written revelation but as a future voiced revelation from the Lord will unlock how Joseph’s name will be known among all people, in that the Lord will reveal his servants, and the purpose they have returned, and will reveal how they came to be where they are at that point of time. So no one really needs to look sooner for the return of the servants until the very words of D&C 1, 133 are convincing the inhabitants of the earth that the very words published are the very words of God. But if the Lord see fits in his wisdom to raise some up for his own purposes in the mean time, it wont be for their own glory, but for the Lord’s glory of fulfilling all his word, even if we don’t fully understand the Lord’s word and ways.

    As for the identity of myself, I am just a son of the gentiles from Ohio, and a son of Judah and Benjamin from the northern countries. And it would be best that I am not viewed as someone from recent past; to avoid conflict of preconceived notions, I of all people know the fragility of the soul. While I can’t deny that I will be a character of influence, I will deny that I possess knowledge of who the servants were, and I readily accept that who they might have been, is at variance with who I am today. Unlike the Lord I am ever changing for the time being. Besides I bear no physical resemblance to Lyman Wight, even though our zeal for the Lord may bear slight resemblance. And I would be very skeptical of the notion that I or any other currently living person is Mr or Mrs so and so.

    While I can’t entirely speak for Emma Smith, but I believe she would want it known that it is far sweeter to be chosen as a daughter of God, than it is to be chosen as a queen and priestess. That true strength comes from recognizing weaknesses, not denying them. That it is ok to fall, the Lord must have some reason to put someone on their knees. And even though the Bible is mostly filled with men and their glory, the glory of women is to be lifted up by men of God, and the unspeakable glories are full of joy. And that if Joseph was sent to the infernal abyss, Emma would unhesitatingly plead to take his place, for eternal life without Joseph would be eternal agony anyways. While her mind may have been conflicted with on goings of Joseph’s last days, her heart still had sure knowledge that she wasn’t shared in Joseph’s heart. And she would sacrifice herself for the one who was most accepting of who she was, and that it would be un Christlike to not sacrifice for the people she loves, even if their actions are disapproved of. And so I wish Emma was here to correct me if I am wrong. I desire to fully know who Joseph and Emma were, so I can fully appreciate their presence in the second watch.

    And while it is great to expect the returning servants of the Lord, I am far more looking forward to that day when the Lord comes gracefully and partially out of his hiding place. When the lights of our sky refuse to give light and an angel of the Lord comes from the east with his beauty (companion). That is the day when I expect the other servants that have yet to be raised by the trump of an archangel, to shake the dust off their garments from the 1800s.

    “I then gave a relation of my situation at the time I obtained the record [Book of Mormon], the persecutions I met with, and prophesied that I would stand and shine like the sun in the firmament when my enemies and the gainsayers of my testimony shall be put down and cut off, and their names blotted out from among men” (tpjs pgs 69-70)

    Methinks Joseph defined gainsayers literally as those that have gained from saying his testimony, because gainsayers is just a subtext of enemies. If that is the case, watch out churches that claim authority from Joseph!

    Adam fell that men might be; and (wo)men are, that they might have joy.
    (Book of Mormon | 2 Nephi 2:25)

    I always thought the above verse was incomplete somehow.

    By the way, I cant take credit for teaching or blessing anyone. I just comment from time to time to share my observations. I would feel too guilty if I took credit that is not mine. I am still perplexed that the Spirit could work through such a wretched creature such as I; regardless of who I am to the Lord.

  16. Ryan says:

    About the first laborer’s return, it will be a shock to the current church as they come to realize, if they don’t already know, that they don’t have what they think they have to guide the church as Isaiah propehised.

    18 There is none to guide her [the church] among all the sons whom she hath brought forth [raised up and appointed to lead]; neither is there any that taketh her by the hand of all the sons that she hath brought up. (Isaiah 51:18)

    • Amen Ryan

      You are seeing it!

      No mortal man really needs to be your guide and interpret the scriptures for you now do they? You really don’t need a church manual or study guide to figure out what Isaiah is saying.

      Praise God.

      Just don’t pontificate your thoughts in Elders Quorum.

      Now for a bit of levity..

      Who are you Ryan?

      I have apparently been crowned Joseph, Mrs. Watcher is the beloved Emma. Fusion is Sidney Rigdon, NEPT is Oliver and Fabledsog is Lyman Wight.

      I nominate “wondering” the friend of mine from Denver that keeps having me clarify the blind spots in my posts on both blogs, and who has been an amazing person to bounce ideas off of, and to critique some of my papers, as “Hyrum”… and what about Penny, the originator of this idea?

      What about Eliza, Penny?

      Or is there another woman in the LDS restoration movement that you admire?

      Although I am being a little tongue in cheek here, I actually find the idea of commenters, taking on an alias from the restoration, somewhat endearing because it shows that the hearts of the children, four generations later, are turning towards the Fathers.

      We are thinking about the pain, suffering and sacrifices that these noble Saints have gone through so that we could have the opportunity of following them down the rabbit hole and then back out again into the glorious light of day when the 3rd watch begins and the reset button is activated.

      I have had some thoughts come to mind about appropriate names for others who have commented on this blog, but I don’t want to speak out of school.

      Anyone interested in claiming a name needs to hurry up because there are only about 1,000 names left of high profile players.

      Here are a few that initially come to mind

      Martin Harris
      William Law
      John C. Bennett
      David Patten
      Orrin porter Rockwell
      Orson Pratt
      Govenor Boggs
      Parley Pratt
      Orson Hyde
      Mary Fielding
      Ezra Booth
      Lucy Mack Smith
      The Pagan Prophet of Nauvoo
      Elizabeth Rollins Lightner
      Brigham Young
      Heber C. Kimball
      John Taylor
      Joshua the Jewish Minister
      David Whitmer

      The list goes on and on..

      Lots of wonderful facinating personalities to choose from that all had a prominant place in the 2nd watch restoration

      Is there a personality from the past that resonates with you?


  17. Ryan says:

    It’s truly an amazing thing to pray for guidance when reading about this subject and then have the scriptures pop off the page.

    I love it!

    If I could, I’d be an obscure restoration figure. My wife’s great-grandfather, Henry William Miller.

  18. Ryan says:

    One in the same 😉

  19. Ryan says:


    You had said “Adam and Eve were created physically as a composite man from the dust and introduced into the garden.”

    I remember reading Joseph F. Smith saying Adam was born of woman just as Christ was born of woman. However I wanted to find something in the scriptures to back it up.

    Then I read this yesterday …

    59 That by reason of transgression cometh the fall, which fall bringeth death, and inasmuch as YE WERE BORN [speaking to Adam] into the world by water, and blood, and the spirit, which I have made, and SO BECAME OF DUST A LIVING SOUL, even so ye must be born again into the kingdom of heaven, of water, and of the Spirit, and be cleansed by blood, even the blood of mine Only Begotten; that ye might be sanctified from all sin, and enjoy the words of eternal life in this world, and eternal life in the world to come, even immortal glory;

    (Moses 6:59)


    • I don’t remember Joseph F. Smith teaching that heresy. Very interesting.

      There is absolutely no basis for such a claim. It contradicts the Bible, the JST and the BofA.

      Verse 59 is NOT speaking to Adam. If you will begin with verse 55 and following the narrative till you get to verse 59 you will get the proper context. The Lord is speaking to Adam and teaching Adam what he was to teach his children.

      Verse 59 is what Adam was to teach his children about their situation.

      Back up to verses 9 and 10 and you will see a very important differentiation between how Adam was created and how Adam’s children were created.

      Adam was “created” by God in his image.

      Then Adam “begat” Seth in his image.

      I stick with the Word of God.

      JFS is full of shit. (scuse the french.. LOL)

  20. Ryan says:


    Thank you for the distinction in verses 9and 10. I didn’t catch the part in v. 59 that it was what Adam was to teach his children. I read it as God teaching Adam, but can clearly see that now.

    Thanks again.

    Here you go…

    Joseph F. Smith:

    “I know that God is a being with body, parts, and passions and that His Son is in His own likeness, and that man is created in the image of God. The Son, Jesus Christ, grew and developed into manhood the same as you or I, as likewise did God, His Father grow and develop to the Supreme Being that He now is. Man was born of woman; Christ the Savior, was born of woman and God, the Father, was born of woman. Adam, our earthly parent, was also born of woman into this world, the same as Jesus and you and I.”

    (Stake Conference, Maricopa Stake, December7, 1913; quoted in Deseret Evening News, December 27, 1913, Sec. III, p. 7. Also Deseret News: Church Section, September 19, 1936, p. 2, 8.)

    Didn’t Joseph also teach this in his Plurality of gods discourse?

    Where was there ever a son without a father? And where was there ever a father without first being a son? (Section Six 1843-44, p.373)


    They both must have been drinking from the same kool-aid. 😉

  21. Ryan says:

    Oh and French is unbecoming of you. 😦

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