Carnal Sensual and Devilish

Last Sunday I spent a little while comparing the Genesis account in the JST with the accounts in the  KJ and the book of Moses.

I confess I have never really done this before.. that I recall.

I was a little surprised at a few things I noticed. I did not spend a lot of time on it and my memory may fail me so if I get some of these observations wrong, please correct me as I am not going to take the time to verify all of these observation right now.

One was that at least one chapter in the Book of Moses was identical to a chapter in the JST which I had always assumed was the source from which the Book of Moses was taken from, and yet other chapters varied… I wonder why? How did the variations take place?

[Ok.. I have gone back and realized that it is chapter one of the Book of Moses that is not contained in the JST. I have researched this and this is what I found “The material constituting the eight chapters of the book of Moses is an extract from Joseph Smith’s translation of the Bible. More precisely, chapter one of Moses is an account of a revelation given to the Prophet Joseph just prior to, or at the commencement of, the translation, while Moses chapters two through eight constitute his translation of Genesis from chapter one through chapter six, verse thirteen]

Another thing I noticed is that even though Genesis 1:1 in the KJV was substantiated and even elaborated on by Joseph Smith in some at least one of his discourses, those passages don’t even show up in the JST! How strange is that!

I also just happened to read ether chapters 3-5 and it occurred to me that perhaps the reason Joseph and the Lord referred to the changes in the King James Version as a TRANSLATION (which ususally means to transfer the meaning from one language to another) is because he may have been using the accounts from the brass plates to get his changes from. For that matter, perhaps the Book of Moses is a composite of the account in the JST and the brass plates and/or other ancient records.

But here is the thing that really blew me away. The JST gives the following chronology

1 Adam and Eve are kicked out of the garden

2 They have lots of kids

3 The gospel is preached to them and they accept it and tell their posterity about it

4 Satan comes and declares that he is also God and asks the posterity of Adam to worship him

5 Lord preaches the gospel through the Holy Ghost

6 Some of the posterity follows Satan while others repent. Once the unrepentant follow Satan, THEY BECOME CARNAL SENSUAL AND DEVILISH!

Hold the phone!

I assumed Adam and Even became fallen and carnal when they partook of the fruit… or at least when they left the garden. I also thought that all of their posterity from the beginning, naturally became carnal sensual and devilish as they reached the age of accountability…

This account blows all of this out the door.

What condition were Adam and Eve and their posterity in between getting kicked out of the garden and the introduction of the Gospel and the introduction of the Devil?

Were they still innocent?

I don’t think that can be the case because they all knew good from evil… and yet perhaps they were in a terrestrial state having not received gospel law or had the opportunity to reject it.

Now here is my final question for now…

When did the probationary time clock actually begin?

Was it at the “fall” and expulsion from the garden OR was it when gospel law was introduced and men became carnal sensual and devilish? Is that not really when probation began?

If it was when men became carnal sensual and devilish, then the time line of the earth begins later than many have assumed and Bishop Ussher, the Catholic Priest that spent his life trying to figure out the time line chronology may have been basing everything off of a false start date.

This would possibly indicate that once Adam and Eve left the garden, they never sinned while in the flesh and never became carnal sensual and devilish during probation at all! (that is actually kind of cool!)

Here is the chapter where this chronology  of events is contained-

1 And it came to pass, that after I, the Lord God, had driven them out, that Adam began to till the earth, and to have dominion over all the beasts of the field, and to eat his bread by the sweat of his brow, as I, the Lord had commanded him, and Eve also, his wife, did labor with him.

2 And Adam knew his wife, and she bare unto him sons and daughters, and they began to multiply, and to replenish the earth.

3 And from that time forth, the sons and daughters of Adam began to divide, two and two, in the land, and to till the land, and to tend flocks; and they also begat sons and daughters.

4 And Adam called upon the name of the Lord, and Eve also, his wife; and they heard the voice of the Lord, from the way towards the garden of Eden, speaking unto them, and they saw him not; for they were shut out from his presence.

5 And he gave unto them commandments, that they should worship the Lord their God; and should offer the firstlings of their flocks for an offering unto the Lord.

6 And Adam was obedient unto the commandments of the Lord. And after many days, an angel of the Lord appeared unto Adam, saying, Why dost thou offer sacrifices unto the Lord? And Adam said unto him, I know not, save the Lord commanded me.

7 And then the angel spake, saying, This thing is a similitude of the sacrifice of the Only Begotten of the Father, which is full of grace and truth;

8 Wherefore, thou shalt do all that thou doest, in the name of the Son. And thou shalt repent, and call upon God, in the name of the Son for evermore.

9 And in that day, the Holy Ghost fell upon Adam, which beareth record of the Father and the Son, saying, I am the Only Begotten of the Father from the beginning, henceforth and forever; that, as thou hast fallen, thou mayest be redeemed, and all mankind, even as many as will.

10 And in that day Adam blessed God, and was filled, and began to prophesy concerning all the families of the earth; saying, Blessed be the name of God, for, because of my transgression my eyes are opened, and in this life I shall have joy, and again, in the flesh I shall see God.

11 And Eve, his wife, heard all these things and was glad, saying, Were it not for our transgression, we never should have had seed, and never should have known good and evil, and the joy of our redemption, and the eternal life which God giveth unto all the obedient.

12 And Adam and Eve blessed the name of God; and they made all things known unto their sons and their daughters.

13 And Satan came among them, saying, I am also a son of God, and he commanded them, saying, Believe it not. And they believed it not; and they loved Satan more than God. And men began from that time forth to be carnal, sensual and devilish.

(according to section 20 man became fallen AFTER they transgressed and became sensual and devilish “18 And that he created man, male and female, after his own image and in his own likeness, created he them; 19 And gave unto them commandments that they should love and serve him, the only living and true God, and that he should be the only being whom they should worship. 20 But by the transgression of these holy laws man became sensual and devilish, and became fallen man.)


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