Searching for the Holy Order and 23 High Priests- Part 7

By OneWhoIsWatching

True Oath & Covenant found in True Manner of Baptism
Father Adam, Lyman Wight and Everyone Else
Must Enter into the Gate the Same Way
Via Water, Fire & Holy Ghost

(previously titled part 5-b)

True Manner of Baptism & the Oath & Covenant of the Father

As you know, the Melchizedek Priesthood was originally called the priesthood after the order of the Son of God before it was named after Melchizedek,

Why the first is called the Melchizedek Priesthood is because bMelchizedek was such a great high priest. Before his day it was called the aHoly Priesthood, after the bOrder of the Son of God.”

Section 76 explains that it was originally referred to as being after the order of the Only Begotten, after that, it was referred to as being after the order of Enoch and eventually it was after the order of Melchizedek;

“…And are apriests of the Most High, after the order of Melchizedek, which was after the order of bEnoch, which was after the corder of the Only Begotten Son.

58 Wherefore, as it is written, they are agods, even the bsons of cGod

59 Wherefore, aall things are theirs, whether life or death, or things present, or things to come, all are theirs and they are Christ’s, and Christ is God’s.

60 And they shall aovercome all things…”

“without beginning of days or end of years”

We are also informed in the Book of Alma that the highest priesthood of Melchizedek is the priesthood after the “order of the Son” and it is described as the priesthood “without beginning of days or end of years”.

I suspect it is referred to as being without beginning of days or end of years because this highest priesthood was before the earth was formed whereas the Aaronic priesthood and the patriarchal priesthood of Abraham and Moses pertain to human priesthood lineage having been created by covenant during the existence of this earth with various patriarchal fathers. Those two priesthoods had a beginning on this earth, according to the lineage of the fathers.

This high priesthood being after the order of his Son, which order was from the foundation of the world; or in other words, being without beginning of days or end of years, being prepared from eternity to all eternity, according to his foreknowledge of all things—

Thus they become high priests forever, after the order of the Son, the Only Begotten of the Father, who is without beginning of days or end of years, who is full of grace, equity, and truth. And thus it is. Amen.”  Alma 13: 7,9

The JST agrees with the Book of Mormon in identifying the highest priesthood as being called after the order of the Son of God and also describing it as being  “without beginning of days or end of years”,

And Melchizedek lifted up his voice and blessed Abram.

26 Now Melchizedek was a man of faith, who wrought righteousness; and when a child he feared God, and stopped the mouths of lions, and quenched the violence of fire.

27 And thus, having been approved of God, he was ordained an high priest after the order of the covenant which God made with Enoch,

28 It being after the order of the Son of God; which order came, not by man, nor the will of man; neither by father nor mother; neither by beginning of days nor end of years; but of God;

29 And it was delivered unto men by the calling of his own voice, according to his own will, unto as many as believed on his name.

30 For God having sworn unto Enoch and unto his seed with an oath by himself; that every one being ordained after this order and calling should have power, by faith, to break mountains, to divide the seas, to dry up waters, to turn them out of their course;

31 To put at defiance the armies of nations, to divide the earth, to break every band, to stand in the presence of God; to do all things according to his will, according to his command, subdue principalities and powers; and this by the will of the Son of God which was from before the foundation of the world.

32 And men having this faith, coming up unto this order of God, were translated and taken up into heaven.

The Book of Moses reveals what the Covenant of the Father is

We know that Adam is the first man and the first father of the human race. He is second in authority to Christ himself. The ordinance by which he made an oath and covenant, in order to obtain an oath and covenant from God, in obtaining the highest priesthood would certainly be the same ordinance for others.

Having shown that the highest priesthood is the one referred to as being “after the order of the Son of God”, and having shown from the word of God that this highest priesthood is also referred to as being “without beginning of days or end of years”, please review a most remarkable passage from the Book of Moses which clearly shows that the baptism of water, fire and the Holy Ghost is the New and Everlasting Covenant through which the humble follower of Christ obtains the highest priesthood.

And it came to pass, when the Lord had spoken with Adam, our father, that Adam cried unto the Lord, and he was acaught away by the Spirit of the Lord, and was carried down into the water, and was laid under the bwater, and was brought forth out of the water.

65 And thus he was baptized, and the Spirit of God descended upon him, and thus he was aborn of the Spirit, and became quickened in the binner man.

66 And he heard a voice out of heaven, saying: Thou art baptized with afire, and with the Holy Ghost. This is the record of the Father, and the Son, from henceforth and forever;

And thou art after the order of him who was without beginning of days or end of years, from all eternity to all eternity.

68 Behold, thou art one in me, a son of God; and thus may all become my sons. Amen.


Our Father Adam entered into the highest priesthood after the order of the Son of God that is without beginning of days or end of years DIRECTLY through the oath and covenant of BAPTISM!

The New and Everlasting Covenant of baptism which was from the beginning, is the highest priesthood covenant into which the Father invites us to enter.

The “Oath and Covenant of the Father” spoken of in section 84 is clearly and unmistakably linked to the New and Everlasting Covenant of Baptism! (this may seem obvious and basic to you and if it does I congratulate you for not  being sidetracked by the false doctrines taught in section 132 and other places which teach the false doctrine that the Oath and Covenant and New and Everlasting Covenant  is interrelated to and predicated on the Spiritual Wife Doctrine and false temple rituals)

After crying out his promise to the Lord and being baptized by water, Adam received, according to the will of the Father, the baptism of Fire and the Holy Ghost!

It is important to note that although the baptismal candidate begins the process by making the oath and covenant of water baptism, the highest priesthood and the promise of receiving all that the Father has is not consummated until the candidate receives the corresponding oath and covenant in return from the Father confirming that the candidate has received the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost and has become a Son of God.

In other words, the covenant and oath is between two parties and both parties must enter into covenant and make an oath.

The candidate begins the process of making the oath and covenant via the baptismal ordinance. Predicated upon faithfulness, the Father calls the candidate to the fulness of the priesthood. The candidate needs to continually seek the face of God as Lyman Wight did. Being called to the priesthood by the voice of God out of the heavens is an important step, however one needs to receive their election as well.

Once the Father has accepted the offering of a broken heart and contrite spirit, the Father gives the candidate a verbal confirmation that the offering has been accepted and swears an oath that the candidate has become a Son of God and will inherit all that the Father has.

Adam got the same baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost that the Lamanites got in the 5th chapter of Helaman. It appears that he was transfigured before God and got the same baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost that Lyman Wight got at the special conference at the Morley Farm.

The baptism of water, fire and Holy Ghost is the priesthood covenant by which Adam and all of the great prophets obtained the promise of eternal life.

That’s what it means to enter into the order of the priesthood that has no beginning or end! It is the priesthood of eternal life!

The patriarchal priesthoods of Aaron (restored by John the baptist) and Abraham (restored by Peter James and John) were based on mortal lineages pertaining to this earth. The Patriarchal priesthood was given the responsibility and authority to administer the New and Everlasting covenant so that we might transcend the two lesser priesthoods of lineage and mortality and obtain the highest priesthood of Godhood and eternal life.

“This is the record of the Father, and the Son, from henceforth and forever”

Did you notice in those passages from Moses that it is by entering into the oath and covenant of the Father through the New and Everlasting Covenant of Baptism that gets you recorded into Gods book?

Notice the definition of record from the 1828 websters;

RECORD’, v.t. [L. recorder, to call to mind, to remember, from re and cor, cordis, the heart or mind.]

1. To register; to enroll; to write or enter in a book or on parchment, for the purpose of preserving authentic or correct evidence of a thing..
Section 88 refers to this book as the “book of the names of the sanctified”.

Of course the above passages in the Book of Moses don’t tell us what the oath or promise was that Adam cried out, but it doesn’t matter, because we have been given the commandments that pertain to the ordinance of Baptism through a latter day prophet.

The Oath we make to the Father

Here is the verbal oath or promise we have been commanded to make in the presence of witnesses PRIOR TO BAPTISM;

And again, by way of commandment to the church concerning the manner of baptism—All those who humble themselves before God, and desire to be baptized, and come forth with broken hearts and contrite spirits, and witness before the church that they have truly repented of all their sins, and are willing to take upon them the name of Jesus Christ, having a determination to serve him to the end, and truly manifest by their works that they have received of the Spirit of Christ unto the remission of their sins, shall be received by baptism into his church.”

I would suggest that if we are serious about salvation, we study the above passage very carefully because it very possibly contains the oath that we must make before we can enter into the New and Everlasting Covenant of the Father. This verbal determination to serve God is to be made publicly in front of the church.

Even if we are the most righteous people on God’s green earth, we technically don’t qualify for the will of the Father to grant the baptism of Fire and the Holy Ghost if we failed to follow the commandments of God concerning the proper  MANNER of Baptism that we have been commanded to follow… which includes repenting, receiving a the spirit of Christ unto the remission of sins AND making a public declaration of your determination to serve Christ to the end, in front of witnesses, BEFORE baptism.

Again, notice that verse 37 is the COMMANDMENT to the Church concerning the MANNER of Baptism.

Lets review this promise that we have been commanded to make before baptism,

First, humble ourselves before GOD.

This promise we are making before God must be made verbally in front of the church as witnesses.

Our promise and declaration must state that we have truly repented of our sins.

We must state that we are willing to take upon us the name of Christ.

We must state that we are willing to SERVE HIM TO THE END.

Prior to making this promise we must manifest by our works that we have received the spirit of Christ unto the remission of our sins.


Following the above passages, section 20 informs us that it is the duty of the elders of the church to “confirm those who are baptized into the church, by the laying on of hands for the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES.”

WOW, it is a good thing we searched the scriptures in our last part of this series to better understand what is the baptism of Fire and the Holy Ghost.

We must Sacrifice all things like Abraham

I have mentioned several times that we must make a covenant to sacrifice all things. Did you know that the sacrifice that we are to offer up unto God is actually our offering up a “broken heart and a contrite spirit”?

Do a key word search of the phrase and it takes you to the words of the Savior to the Nephites,

And ye shall offer for a SACRIFICE unto me a broken heart and a contrite spirit. And whoso cometh unto me with a broken heart and a contrite spirit, him will I baptize with fire and with the Holy Ghost, even as the Lamanites, because of their faith in me at the time of their conversion, were baptized with fire and with the Holy Ghost, and they knew it not.”

There you have it. Those who truly follow the commandment to make the oath contained in verse 37 and offer unto God a broken heart and a contrite spirit are actually offering the sacrifice that is required in order to receive the baptism of Fire and the Holy Ghost, which sanctifies you and allows entrance through the strait gate and into the path… which is synonymous with being called to the High Melchizedek Priesthood.

Lyman Wight had obviously received a remission of his sins by the spirit of Christ and obeyed the commandment to make the aforementioned declaration before witnesses at the time of his baptism BEFORE his baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost at the Morley Farm!

The Baptismal covenant and the sacrament wherein we covenant to keep all of his commandments represent an “offering” and “sacrifice” that are usually spoken of in ancient and modern scripture. ( See Malachi 3:1-3 D&C 59: 8, 12, 84:31,

Following verse 37, section twenty gives us the exact wording that we are to use in administering the New and Everlasting Covenant of Baptism.

That baptismal prayer in the D&C was identical to the baptismal prayer contained in the Book of Mormon UNTIL the 1835 edition of the D&C was published. At that time, the baptismal prayer was CHANGED to the words that are in the D&C today.

It is not clear exactly when the Church quit having new converts obey the commandment in verse 37, nor is it clear why the leading brethren of the Church changed the wording of the baptismal covenant. Nevertheless, the fact that it was changed must surely be significant.

Isaiah apparently saw in vision the changing of the manner of baptism, including the discontinuance of the baptismal oath that is required BEFORE the baptism. This of course changes the ordinance. He spoke prophetically of it…

The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have atransgressed the laws, bchanged the cordinance, dbroken the eeverlasting fcovenant. (Isa 24:5)

Lyman Wight was equally unimpressed.

He was quite upset about changes made in the 1835 edition of the D&C which included the changing of the baptismal prayer. Perhaps he also had concerns about the fact that the church was no longer having converts obey the commandment in verse 37 to make a public oath to the Father.

Despite the efforts made to conceal much of what Lyman Wight did and said, we have historical records showing that In 1837 Lyman Wight was teaching “that the church was under a telestial law, [and] the Doctrine and Covenant was a telestial law, but the Book of Commandments was celestial law

Lyman also alludes to the defilement of the temple and the Saints having to flee Kirtland he said,

“..because God does not whip in a Celestial, or under a Celestial law; therefore he took us the Church out doors to whip us—as a parent takes his children out of doors to chastise them.”

(See see also volume 1 part 1 of the “historical Development of the Doctrine and Covenants” by Woodford)

David Patten was so offended at what Wight was teaching that he brought him before a church court.

When I first saw that statement by Lyman Wight years ago it made no sense to me and I blew it off and discounted Wight as one of the many loose cannon, wing-nuts who had gravitated to the restored church.

I have since re-evaluated the situation after learning about the events at the Morley Farm, the incredible life of Lyman Wight and the things God says about Lyman in the D&C.

In our next installment, when we review the three orders of priesthood and the corresponding three levels of law and three degrees of glory, we shall see that the terrestrial “priesthood” of Abraham initially offers celestial law and the opportunity for people to transcend to the highest priesthood of Melchizedek through the fullness of the Gospel and the New and Everlasting covenant of Baptism.

However, when the church collectively rejects celestial law and the fullness of the Gospel, then the “priesthood” of Abraham replaces the “gospel” of Christ with the “gospel” of Abraham, which functions under a lesser law and a lesser Priesthood.

I now believe Lyman Wight knew exactly what he was talking about!

I honestly believe now that Lyman Wight was one of a few holy men among the gentiles for a period of time, until the scapegoat doctrine kicked in. He clearly was human and eventually the affects of the latter day apostasy and the atonement statute fell upon him, but he enjoyed a period of enlightenment for a season and had the priesthood sealed upon him for the part he would play in the 3rd watch.

His words were often blunt and harsh and not politically correct. People probably thought he was  a heretic.. perhaps much the same way John the Baptist was perceived… a wild man.

But true prophets speak the word of God with the tongue of angels and those words are sometimes words of sharpness and are like a two-edged sword.

Once you have been sanctified and have truly entered into the narrow path, you see things with your spiritual eyes that others don’t see. The eyes of your understanding are touched by the finger of God and you only traffic in the truth.

The words of Lyman Wight were as a two-edged sword to those who heard them.

Another holy man that used much sharpness was King Benjamin,

…For behold, king Benjamin was a holy man, and he did reign over his people in righteousness; and there were many holy men in the land, and they did speak the word of God with power and with authority; and they did use much sharpness because of the stiffneckedness of the people—Mormon 1:17

Lyman Wight made another politically incorrect observation in a letter he wrote in 1851, after the martyrdom.

At a time when he could have been trying to take the leadership control of the church jointly with his brethren of the 12, or claim the presiding position by virtue of having been the first High Priest of this dispensation, he simply made the following declaration;

“… We were to have a sufficient time to build that house, during which time our baptisms for our dead should be acceptable in the river. If we did not build within this time we were to be rejected as a church, we and our dead together. Both the temple and baptizing went very leisurely, till the temple was somewhere in building the second story, when Bro. Joseph from the stand announced the alarming declaration that baptism for our dead was no longer acceptable in the river. As much to say the time for building the temple had passed by, and both we and our dead were rejected together..”

The church now stands rejected together with their dead. The church being rejected now stands alienated from her God in every sense of the word.”  (ref )

The Key of Knowledge has been hidden

If you are like me, you are somewhat baffled and awestruck at how we latter day saints have missed the simplicity of the Gospel and gone past the mark.

How have we missed the simplicity of Baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost being the gate by which the highest priesthood and eternal life is gained? How have we allowed ourselves to become so confused with so much other doctrinal and ritualistic baggage?

How has this happened to four generations of Latter day Saints?

In JST Luke 11:53, the Savior makes an astonishing accusation against the religious “lawyers” that were largely responsible for teaching doctrine in the corrupt Jewish church,

Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge, the fulness of the scriptures; ye enter not in yourselves into the kingdom; and those who were entering in, ye hindered.

In previous posts and/or comments I have pointed out that just because a person holds the keys of the kingdom (church), it doesn’t mean that they have successfully used those keys themselves to get into the kingdom.

We see from the Saviour’s chastisement to the Jewish lawyers that they not only failed to use the key of knowledge to get themselves in to the kingdom, but they hindered others from entering as well.

The above passage reveals that the “key of knowledge” is the “fulness of the scriptures”.

It should be remembered that in the Law of the Gospel as contained in section 42 the Lord said;

“…And all this ye shall observe to do as I have acommanded concerning your teaching, until the fulness of my bscriptures is given.

In section 104 the Lord said

“And for this purpose I have commanded you to organize yourselves, even to print amy words, the fulness of my scriptures, the revelations which I have given unto you, and which I shall, hereafter, from time to time give unto you for the purpose of building up my church and kingdom on the earth, and to aprepare my people for the time when I shall bdwell with them, which is nigh at hand.”

As I have pointed out before, the church was warned that they would be damned in their progression if they failed to finance the publishing of the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible. Although evidence suggests that the JST was finished long before the Saints left Kirtland, Joseph Smith was still pleading with the Saints in Nauvoo to contribute to the publishing of the JST.

Although the JST that we get from the reorganized church is pregnant with incredibly important and enlightening information, there is reason to believe that perhaps there will be much more to it when it finally comes forth under the direction of the first laborers of the last kingdom, including the record of John.

As we dig deep into the understanding of what priesthood is, we need to remember that an important aspect of priesthood power is knowledge. Indeed, knowledge is power. And it is priesthood and the fulness of the scriptures that enables one to obtain knowledge,

“… Now the great and grand secret of the whole matter, and the summum bonum of the whole subject that is lying before us, consists in obtaining the apowers of the Holy Priesthood. For him to whom these keys are given there is no difficulty in obtaining a bknowledge of facts in relation to the csalvation of the children of men, both as well for the dead as for the living…   This, therefore, is the asealing and binding power, and, in one sense of the word, the bkeys of the kingdom, which consist in the key of cknowledge.” (Section 128)

And this greater apriesthood administereth the gospel and holdeth the bkey of the cmysteries of the kingdom, even the key of the dknowledge of God.” (Section 84)

The power and authority of the higher, or Melchizedek Priesthood, is to hold the keys of all the spiritual blessings of the church—
To have the privilege of receiving the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, to have the heavens opened unto them, to commune with the general assembly and church of the Firstborn, and to enjoy the communion and presence of God the Father, and Jesus the mediator of the new covenant.” (107:18-19

This is a time to Rejoice and Prepare our Minds and Hearts

Let me take this opportunity to remind the readers of this article that the information you have read about the changing of the manner of baptism, the changing of the actual ordinance and the breaking of the covenant should not be cause for despair but rather for rejoicing.

This explains why the servants need to restore the breach!

If you are feeling despair, you either are not familiar with the doctrine of the three watches or you don’t believe it. I strongly advise you to go here and review it.

We live in an exciting time. We are living during the time of the fourth generation that will experience the return of Gods servants to the earth.

God is slowly removing the blindness from the eyes of a portion of Israel.

This information that God has granted us to have is a blessing for it explains why the gifts of the spirit in large measure have been withheld from the church. It explains why and how the covenant has been broken and why the heavens have been sealed since the death of the prophet Joseph Smith.

Perhaps most importantly, it explains why the first laborers of the last kingdom need to return and restore the breach prior to the return of the Lord!

Knowledge is power. Once you understand the truth pertaining to the New and Everlasting Covenant, you are less likely to be deceived by the false prophets and false teachers out there who are seducing people into a state of complacency. Others are seducing people into believing in the spiritual wife doctrine and other false doctrines and practices. (Once a person understands about what took place at the special conference at the Morley Farm, and what the fulness of the priesthood is, and that it was restored and lost between 1831-1834, it is easy to detect the fallacy of section 132 and the “spiritual wife doctrine” that categorically contradicts the celestial law of monogamy revealed in section 42)

This information enables us to better prepare our hearts and minds for the return of the servants and for the opportunity to enter into the true manner of baptism and the true covenant with the Father.

Lyman Wight had previously entered into the Oath and Covenant

In my closing remarks of part 6 of this series I made the following statements

If it is true that Lyman Wight was indeed transfigured before the Lord and that he received the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost in the process of being elected to the Melchizedek priesthood, then he had already entered into his part of the oath and covenant of the Father that is mentioned in section 84.

He had entered into it BEFORE the special conference.”

Chances are pretty good that you ascertained during the last part of this series, if not before, that the Oath and Covenant of the Father pertains to the New and Everlasting Covenant of Baptism .

Now, hopefully you have an even better understanding of this. Hopefully you are internalizing this doctrine.

This requires a huge paradigm shift since we have not been conditioned to think of the highest priesthood being predicated upon the baptism of water, fire and the Holy Ghost.

Once you have an epiphany that the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost is granted by the will of the Father and that indeed it precedes the oath and covenant made by the Father, confirming that the candidate has been born again and become a Son of God, inheriting all that the Father has.

Why did God reveal the Law of the Gospel AFTER the Saints promised to live it?

Now then… I want to point something out to you that is very curious.

  • In 1829 The Lord restored the priesthood of Aaron.
  • Shortly after that, in the same year, he restored the patriarchal priesthood which contains the apostolic priesthood authority to dispense the saving ordinances of the gospel.
  • In 1830 he legally restored the church of Christ according to the laws of the land
  • Shortly after that he informs the Saints that they have the fullness of the Gospel
  • He also tells them they have the keys to the kingdom.

End of story as far as priesthood and associated gospel law?


After restoring the first two priesthoods and telling them they have the fullness of the Gospel and the keys of the kingdom, he then tells them to go to Ohio so that he can give them the Law of the Gospel and a higher endowment of priesthood!

Wait a minute! Doesn’t that seem a bit illogical?

If they have the fullness of the gospel and the keys of the kingdom, why in the world would they still need to receive the Law of the Gospel?

And why in the world would they need an additional priesthood endowment?

To add more intrigue to this story, once the Lord reveals that the law of consecration is part of the law of the Gospel, he acts as if it is a given that they will obey it.

The reason for this is because they had already made a covenant to obey the law of the gospel even though they didn’t fully understand what it was.

I had a person emphatically declare on my other blog several months ago that the baptism covenant is separate and distinct from the covenant to consecrate and that a person can enter into the baptismal covenant but choose not to consecrate and still make it into the celestial kingdom.


When you enter into the baptismal oath to serve God to the end instead of others and to serve God instead of yourself, you are making a covenant to obey ALL of the commandments that have been revealed to you and all of the commandments that will be revealed to you in the future.

Can you agree to something before knowing what you are agreeing to?

One of the things that bothered me about the temple endowment when I went through for the first time is how, right before you go through, you are taken into a room and given the opportunity to back out if you want to.. but they don’t tell you exactly what the covenants and ritualistic reception of tokens are that you are about to enter into… so you can’t really make an intelligent decision as to whether you want to back out or not.

They don’t tell you what you are going to do nor what you will say and to what you will agree to do.

It seems to me that it would be helpful to know that information before having to commit one way or the other.

That information is revealed after you have declined to back out of the ceremony!

As disturbing as it is to me that the temple endowment was handled that way, I must confess, that protocol is, in essence, how God works with his covenant of baptism.

This is why you need to really make sure you know which God you are dealing with and whether the gospel is being administered by true shepherds or false shepherds when you enter into a covenant that binds you to future commandments… fortunately, the scriptures inform us that we can break false covenants into which we are duped.

Anyway, the baptismal covenant is the same way. Once you know that Jesus Christ is the creator of the heavens and the earth and that the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are one God, and that you can become a possessor of all things and have eternal life if you enter into covenant with them upon obedience and your willingness to sacrifice all things, you get to make that decision even though you don’t have a full understanding of the gospel and all of the future commandments that may be given to you.

Notice in verse 68 of section 20 that the elders don’t teach the new converts everything concerning the Church until after they are baptized but BEFORE they covenant again to keep all of the commandments by taking the sacrament.

The elders are to have a sufficient amount of time to expound all things concerning the church of Christ to their understanding previous to their partaking of the sacrament

It is interesting that God has given us the sacrament ordinance which is a renewing of our original commitment to obey all of Gods commandments that was made in the ordinance of baptism.

But, behold, my beloved brethren, thus came the voice of the Son unto me, saying: After ye have repented of your sins, and witnessed unto the Father that ye are willing to keep my commandments, by the baptism of water, and have received the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost. (2nd Nephi 31)

Notice how we renew our original promise to God every time we partake of the sacrament,

“..that they may always remember him and keep his commandments which he has given them; that they may have his spirit to be with them, Amen

Since a foundational law of the fulness of the gospel is consecration, one has to wonder if those not living that most important commandment are supposed to be taking the sacrament… clearly, we cannot have the spirit to be with us if we are not living the commandments.

Law of Consecration

One could make a case for the proposition that the law of consecration is the covenant of the Father and that when a person enters into the promise to live consecration that that is the oath that begins the covenant. But I would suggest that the law of the gospel and the associated requirement to consecrate and live a monogamous life, as contained in the law of the gospel in section 42, was entered into the day a person makes the public oath that is detailed in section 20 verse 37.

It is interesting to note that Oliver Cowdery received what is now known as section 20 by revelation after being commanded to do so.

You can learn a little more about the unique roll that Oliver Cowdery has and will play in the church here and you can read various versions of section 20 here

Although Oliver received the majority of this revelation, it was, however, the prophet Joseph Smith, who, by revelation, added verse 37 to section 20.

While Oliver Cowdery was reviewing some revelations and preparing them to be published, he came across the verse that Joseph Smith had added and felt like the phrase “they have received of the fSpirit of Christ unto the gremission of their sins” was incorrect and not in harmony with the word of God in the Book of Mormon and the New Testament. He therefore wrote a letter to Joseph Smith stating,

I command you in the name of God to erase these words, that no priestcraft be amongst us!!”

In Joseph’s diary he said;

“I immediately wrote to him in reply, in which I asked him by what authority he took upon him to command me to alter or erase, to add or diminish to or from a revelation or commandment from Almighty God.” (ref

It took a week of Joseph laboring with Oliver Cowdery and the Whitmer Family to convince them that Joseph had not erred in using those words. He had added them by direct revelation from God.

His labors with those good folks was followed up by a revelation wherein the Lord told Oliver,

“ one shall be appointed to receive commandments and revelations in this church excepting my Servant Joseph Smith Jun., for he receiveth them even as Moses. And thou shalt be obedient unto the things which I shall give unto him… And thou shalt not command him who is at thy head, and at the head of the church..” (D&C 28)

It is important to realize that prior to the printing of the Book of Commandments, the early elders of the church would hand copy sections 20 and 42 and take them with them on their missionary assignments.

At that time section 20 was referred to as the “Articles and Covenants” of the Church.

These two sections were all that were needed to teach new converts about the true oath and covenant of the Father and the law of the Gospel.

Now then, getting back to this amazing sequence in the history of the church, after bestowing the first two priesthoods, restoring the church, acknowledging that the church has the fullness of the gospel and the keys by which entrance into the gate is made possible, God commands the Saints to go to Ohio where they will get the greater endowment of priesthood and find out what the details are of the gospel law they have already made an oath to obey.

I have spoken much about what we have learned about priesthood and I am going to provide a detailed summary about priesthood in a later part of this series; however, I want to address the law of the Gospel and more particularly the law of consecration at this time.


We need to take a few minutes to revisit and encapsulate the warnings and consequences associated with not living the law of consecration.

It is essential that we understand just how critical is the law of consecration.

Here is a brief summary of the admonitions and warnings given about the importance of this law with dates and sections;

It is essential to understand and remember that the oath and covenant of the priesthood is incorporated within the new and everlasting covenant of baptism and that the everlasting covenant of baptism contains the commandment to serve God and live consecration.

Interestingly, the Saints didn’t have the law of the gospel given to them before being given the covenant of baptism. It wasn’t necessary for the Lord to give the details of the law first because the baptismal recipient is agreeing to sacrifice all things by serving God instead of anyone else. The baptismal oath requires us to be obedient to every law that has or will be given.

Let us review what the Lord has told us about this law;

Dates Sections Admonitions and Warnings
























“Be One and If ye are not ONE YE ARE NOT MINE”“Ye shall see that MY LAW is kept.. He that recieveth my law and doeth it, the same is my disciple he that sayeth that he receiveth it and doeth it not, the same is not my disciple and shall be cast out from among you..”“Thou shalt love thy wife with all thy heart, and shalt cleave unto her and none else.. Behold, thou wilt remember the poor and consecrate of thy properties… with a covenant and a deed that cannot be broken… and this I do for the salvation of my people

“many shall be converted in so much that ye shall obtain power to organize yourselves.. that your enemies may not have power over you; that you may be preserved in all things” [3rd watch fulfillment]
And with one heart and one mind gather up your riches that ye may purchase an inheritance which shall hereafter be appointed unto you.

“ is not given that one man should possess that which is above another, wherefore the world lieth in sin

“For it must needs be that they be organized according to my laws; if otherwise, they will be cut off.”

“that I will consecrate unto my people, which are a remnant of Jacob, and those who are heirs according the [oath and] covenant [of the priesthood]
“As the covenant [of the priesthood  (consecration) ] which they made unto me has been broken, even so it has become void and of none effect. And wo to him by whom this offense cometh for it had been better for him that he had been drowned in the depth of the see.”

“Wo unto you rich men, that will not give your substance to the poor, for your riches will canker your souls; and this shall be your lamentation in the day of visistion, and of judgment, and of indignation; the harvest is past, the summer is ended, and my soul is not saved..”

“Wherefore, this is the land of promise, and the place for the city of Zion… and thjus let those of whom I have spoken be planted in the land of Zion, as speedily as can be, with their families, to do those things even as I have spoken.”

“for verily I say unto you my law shall be kept on this land” [3rd watch]

He that sendeth up treasures unto the land of Zion shall receive an inheritance in this world and his works shall follow him, and also a reward in the world to come”

“..for he that is tithed [consecrated] shall not be burned at his coming”

“Verily I say unto you, blessed are you for receiving mine everlasting covenant [which is synonymous with the oath and covenant of the priesthood], even the fullness of my gospel, sent forth unto the children of men, that they might have life..”

“And behold, none are exempt from this law who belong to the Church of the living God” (The Church of the Living God separate from the Church of Christ, it consists of High priests who have entered into the oath and covenant of the priesthood)

“Nevertheless, in your temporal things you shall be equal, and this not grudgingly, otherwise the abundance of the manifestations of the Spirit shall be withheld”

“..according to the LAW every man that cometh up to Zion must lay all things before the bishop in Zion.”

1 The Lord spake unto Joseph Smith, Jun., saying: Hearken unto me, saith the Lord your God, who are ordained unto the ahigh priesthood of my church, who have assembled yourselves together;

2 And listen to the acounsel of him who has bordained you from on high, who shall speak in your ears the words of cwisdom, that salvation may be unto you in that thing which you have presented before me, saith the Lord God.

3 For verily I say unto you, the time has come, and is now at hand; and behold, and lo, it must needs be that there be an aorganization of my people, in regulating and establishing the affairs of the bstorehouse for the cpoor of my people, both in this place and in the land of dZion

4 For a permanent and everlasting establishment and order unto my church, to advance the cause, which ye have espoused, to the salvation of man, and to the glory of your Father who is in heaven;

5 That you may be aequal in the bonds of heavenly things, yea, and earthly things also, for the obtaining of heavenly things.

6 For if ye are not equal in earthly things ye cannot be aequal in obtaining heavenly things;

7 For if you will that I give unto you a place in the acelestial world, you must bprepare yourselves by cdoing the things which I have commanded you and required of you.

8 And now, verily thus saith the Lord, it is expedient that all things be done unto my aglory, by you who are joined together in this border;

9 Or, in other words, let my servant Newel K. Whitney and my servant Joseph Smith, Jun., and my servant Sidney Rigdon sit in council with the saints which are in aZion;

10 Otherwise aSatan seeketh to turn their bhearts away from the truth, that they become cblinded and understand not the things which are prepared for them.

11 Wherefore, a commandment I give unto you, to prepare and organize yourselves by a abond or everlasting bcovenant that cannot be broken.

12 And he who breaketh it shall lose his office and standing in the church, and shall be adelivered over to the bbuffetings of Satan until the day of redemption.

13 Behold, this is the preparation wherewith I prepare you, and the foundation, and the aensample which I give unto you, whereby you may accomplish the commandments which are given you;

14 That through my providence, notwithstanding the atribulation which shall descend upon you, that the church may stand independent above all other creatures beneath the celestial world;

15 That you may come up unto the acrown prepared for you, and be made brulers over many kingdoms, saith the Lord God, the Holy One of Zion, who hath established the foundations of cAdam-ondi-Ahman;

16 Who hath appointed aMichael your prince, and established his feet, and set him upon high, and given unto him the keys of salvation under the counsel and direction of the bHoly One, who is without beginning of days or end of life.

17 Verily, verily, I say unto you, ye are alittle children, and ye have not as yet understood how great blessings the Father hath in his own hands and prepared for you;

18 And ye cannot abear all things now; nevertheless, be of good bcheer, for I will clead you along. The kingdom is yours and the blessings thereof are yours, and the driches of eeternity are yours.

19 And he who receiveth all things with athankfulness shall be made glorious; and the things of this earth shall be added unto him, even an bhundred fold, yea, more.

20 Wherefore, do the things which I have commanded you, saith your Redeemer, even the Son aAhman, who prepareth all things before he btaketh you;

21 For ye are the achurch of the bFirstborn, and he will take you up in a ccloud, and appoint every man his portion.

22 And he that is a faithful and awise bsteward shall inherit call things. Amen.

And you are to be equal, or in other words, you are to have equal claims on the properties, for the benefit of managing the concerns of your stewardships, every man according to his wants and his needs, inasmuch as his wants are just…This order have I appointed to be an everlasting order unto you , and unto your successors, inasmuch as you sin not. And the soul that sins against this covenant, and hardeneth his heart against it, shall be dealt with according to the laws of my church, and shall be delivered over to the buffetings of Satan until the day of redemption..”

“And your minds in times past hve been darkened because of unbelief, and because you have treated lightly the things you have received. Which vanity and unbelief have brought the whole church under condemnation..”

“Therefore, inasmuch as some of my servants have not kept the commandment, but have broken the covenant through covetousness, and with feigned words, I have cursed them with a very sore and grievous curse. For I, the Lord, have decreed in my heart, that inasmuch as any man belonging to the order shall be found a transgressor, or in other words shall break the covenant with which ye are bound, he shall be cursed in his life, and shall be trodden down by whom I will. For I , the Lord, am not be  mocked in these things… therefore, inasmuch as you are found transgressors, you cannot escape my wrath in your lives. In as much as ye are cut off for transgression, he cannot escape the buffetings of Satan until the day of redemption….”

“Behold, ..were it not for the transgressions of my people, speaking concerning the church and not individuals, they might have been redeemed even now… they have not learned to be obedient to the things which I required at their hands, but are full of all manner of evil, and do not impart of their substance, as becometh saints, to the poor and afflicted among them. And are not united according to the union required by the law of the celestial kingdom. And Zion cannot be built up unless it is by the principles of the law of the celestial kingdom.  And Zion cannot be built up unless it is by the principles of the law of the celestial kingdom; otherwise I cannot receive her unto myself. And my people must needs be chastened until they learn obedience, if it must needs be, by the things which they suffer….”

“..If my people observe not this law, to keep it holy, and by this law sanctify the land of Zion unto me, that my statutes and my judgments may be kept thereon, that it may be most holy, behold, verily I say unto you, it shall not be a land of Zion unto you.”

Obviously, the above is only a sampling of what the D&C says about the law of consecration.

If you took the time to read all of the quotes above, then you are probably feeling a little sober.

The above exercise was done to remind you just how many times the Lord addressed the law of consecration in modern revelation. He did it repeatedly. The warnings and consequences are numerous and severe.

Looking beyond the Mark

We actually agree to live the law of the Gospel which incorporates the law of consecration when we obey section 20:37 and enter into the true manner of baptism and make our public declaration before witnesses that we are going to serve Christ to the end.

Once you realize just how important it is that we live the law of the Gospel and how integral the law of consecration is, and how severe the consequences are for not living it, you begin to realize just how far off the path we really are.

It would make no sense for God to reveal a higher law to us after we have rejected his previous laws. (see the following article regarding my recent Analysis of Section 132)

It may seem shocking to realize that the oath and covenant of the Father is the baptismal covenant!

That is just too simple!

Hopefully the simplicity of the Gospel is starting to emerge out of the darkness and confusion that we have been in.

We needed to have the lesser priesthoods restored so that the oath and covenant of the Father could be administered by the proper priesthood authority… enabling us to enter into the gate and into the highest priesthood.

Recently a blogger who has taught seminary posted a blog asking the following question,

What is The Oath and Covenant of the Priesthood?

She went on to pose the following questions,

“Where do you find the actual “Oath and Covenant” of the Priesthood?

Who makes the covenant?

Who takes an oath?

Why is it called the “oath and covenant of the Priesthood”?”

She then acknowledged that she had not been able to find the answers to these questions,

“These and many more questions plagued me the first year I taught Doctrine and Covenants in early morning seminary. I had come to Section 84 where the Lord outlined the beautiful patriarchal order of the priesthood, but still could not find the answers. In Section 84 we are instructed regarding the blessings for obtaining and magnifying the priesthood…. It even refers to the “oath and covenant of the priesthood”, but still not a clue is given to what is meant by that terminology. I asked everyone I could find, and believe it or not, the answers I got would surprise you. The funniest one I think I got was, “That is just what they call it!”

Finally she provides the answer that she got which you can read about here if you are interested.

This dear lady had run into the same wall that virtually all other inquiring minds in church have run into and she did the best she could to try to figure it out.

How is it that we as a people have lost our way?

The Book of Mormon speaks of how the Jews fell because they were looking beyond the mark,

But behold, the Jews were a astiffnecked people; and they bdespised the words of cplainness, and dkilled the prophets, and sought for things that they could not understand. Wherefore, because of their eblindness, which fblindness came by looking beyond the gmark, they must needs fall; for God hath taken away his plainness from them, and delivered unto them many things which they hcannot understand, because they desired it. And because they desired it God hath done it, that they may stumble. Jacob 4: 14

The above passage is fascinating in that it begins speaking about the Jews in the past tense then transitions to speaking about them prophetically, in the future.

“They were a stiffnecked people…”  PAST

“They must needs fall…” FUTURE

These passages prophesy that the Jews would fall because they despised the words of plainness and looked beyond the mark. They chose to seek after things they could not understand instead of believing the plain and simply doctrine of faith, repentance and baptism of water, fire and the Holy Ghost.

I would submit to you that this prophesy has a dual fulfillment. Not only did the Jews look beyond the mark in the meridian of time, they also are doing it in the latter days.

The Gentiles looked beyond the mark and rejected the fullness of the Gospel from 1830 to 1836.

They demonstrated their blindness in rejecting the incredible endowment being offered at the special conference at the Morley Farm.

They treated lightly the true oath and covenant of the Father.

Beginning in 1836, Father Abraham appears to Joseph and Oliver and gave them the keys of the dispensation of the Gospel of Abraham. Shortly after this the twelve apostles were sent to establish foreign missions and  the preparatory gospel went forth to the remnants of Judah and scattered Israel. Latter day Judah has been restored to the church and preparatory gospel as a result of what took place in section 110!

To this day, the Jews and Gentiles who have accepted the preparatory gospel and the Book of Mormon continue to despise the words of plainness and look beyond the mark as they seek after things they cannot understand.

We have one last chance coming up here very shortly.

The third watch is about to begin.

If we don’t learn from the past mistakes of our fathers in looking beyond the mark, the incredible tragedy of the special conference at the Morley Farm is doomed to repeat itself in the lives of many latter day Saints.

In our next installment we shall see what we have learned about the priesthood in our quest to find 23 high priests and the holy order.

Keep watching.

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21 Responses to Searching for the Holy Order and 23 High Priests- Part 7

  1. NEPT says:

    Hey Watcher,

    I revisited D&C 20, as well as the corresponding section in the BoC, and compared the two with 3 Nephi 11. While the baptismal prayer was certainly changed from what Christ gave in the BoM, I’m not sure it merits the “changing of the ordinances” tag.

    The only reason I have to give is found in Mosiah 18. When Alma baptized Helam in the waters of Mormon, he offers a prayer that is quite distinct from the one given by Christ and also found in the BoC. Interestingly, he does use similar language at the beginning (“HAVING AUTHORITY from the Almighty God” v. “HAVING AUTHORITY given me of Jesus Christ”) instead of “HAVING BEEN COMMISSIONED”, but the remainder of the prayer is quite different.

    So, how important is the exact wording of the prayer? Can we “change” the wording of an ordinance that has already evolved over time?

    Although I find Lyman’s statements regarding the BoC and D&C extremely interesting, and they do lend credence to your argument, I don’t know if the wording change in section 20 is part of the demotion to telestial law. But I’ll make sure to ask Brother Wight when I meet him!

  2. Great point.

    Years ago when I first noticed that the wording of the baptismal prayer had been changed, I determined that the change was insignificant because the wording appears to mean the same thing.


    I now look at it differently.

    I think that instead of focusing on whether the intent of the wording is the same, we should focus on WHY was it changed?

    Do we change an existing ordinance just for the fun of it… or just because we can?

    Certainly there must be a valid reason.

    Was the original wording wrong? Were the Nephites using the wrong wording as it appeared in the Book of Mormon? Were their baptisms not honored by God?

    Was that wording sufficient in bringing about the baptism of water that is followed by the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost?

    Additionally, was the original wording sufficient for the believing gentiles of the Church of Christ during the first several years of the LDS Foundation Movement when they were using the same wording?

    Did they all need to get rebaptised when the change occurred?

    If the answer is yes, it was the proper wording for the Book of Mormon people and for the Church of Christ in the first several years of the foundation movement, then the real question we should be asking is WHY was it changed during the time of transition, when something new needed to be done for the salvation of the Church, when the name change of the church was taking place and the publishing of the D&C and the taking of the Gospel of Abraham to foreign missions?

    To me, the more important and indefensible change that was made has to do with the proper MANNER of baptism.

    How do you defend the discontinuance of the public declaration to serve Christ to the end in front of the Church as witnesses?

    In my opinion, the change in wording almost becomes a moot point in that the prophecy contained in Isa pertaining to the changing of the ordinance and the breaking of the covenant is so clearly evidenced in our failure to follow the commandment in section 20:37.

    How do you feel about that change? Do you find it equally insignificant?

    Or is it serious enough to constitute the breaking of the covenant?

  3. NEPT says:

    I’m only suggesting that a subtle change in the wording of the prayer may not suffice to “change the ordinance”, for it appears that Alma and his people, at the very least, were living consecration (although I concede that this certainly does not guarantee the possession of the Melchizedek PH through which God baptizes with fire and the Holy Ghost)But I do agree that the “manner” of baptism, which includes the commandment given in verse 37, is not something with which to be trifled. You took the words right out of my mouth when you said “the change in wording almost becomes a moot point”. IMO, the global alterations in baptism DO constitute a “change in the ordinance”, and may very well be a fulfillment of Isaiah’s prophecy. But the change in wording may only be a signal of corruption, not necessarily the corruption itself.

  4. I agree that the wording is not the big deal-it is the manner in which the candidate is presented.

    You know, I am reading the History of the Church and find some interesting parallels between the early Christians and the restoration saints.

    In volume 1, Joseph outlines the history of Christianity to prove that an apostacy occured. On page LIV we read about what was occuring in the early church.

    “There is good reason to believe that the Christian bishops purposely multiplied sacred rites for the sake of rendering the Jews and pagans more friendly to them….To add further dignity to the dignity of the Christian Religion, the churches of the east feigned mysteries similar to those of the pagan religions; and, as with the pagans, the holy rites of the mysteries were concealed from the vulgar:”

    I just find it interesting that the restored church fell into the same trap of adding sacred/secret rites and altering the plain and precious truths.

    I also can’t believe that our own canon condemns us and we collectively do not see it. It is astonishing.

  5. TruthSeekerToo

    What a pertinent quote and parallel.

    It really is astonishing that we have collectively looked beyond the mark and replaced the simple principles and ordinances of the gospel with confusing doctrines we don’t even understand.

    And all this while being condemned by our own scriptures.

  6. Fabledsog says:

    There might have been many reasons why it was changed, but I’ve been led to this.
    60 Behold, I am Alpha and Omega, even Jesus Christ.
    61 Wherefore, let all men beware how they take my name in their lips—
    62 For behold, verily I say, that many there be who are under this condemnation, who use the name of the Lord, and use it in vain, having not authority.
    (Doctrine and Covenants | Section 63:60 – 62)
    The church expects word for word on the Sacrament Prayer, in a essence perfect. I’m not going into how I feel about that though. But I will say this though, Authority, any shape or form is scattered a lot through the scriptures, it is the keys, and keys have to fit the door, if they don’t, or use them the wrong way. then we have problems. I feel that handling the keys is just as important as having them.

  7. I think that is a great point Fabledsog.

    God is very exact and the keys he bestows must be very exact.

    Another thing I am wondering is, if in fact the Lord commanded JS to change the wording because he was taking away the fulness of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and replacing it with the gospel of Abraham.

    Perhaps he wants to make a distinction between the wording of the ordinances in the fulness of the gospel vs the preparatory gospel.

    I have alluded to this concept before but I am currently working on an article that provides greater clarification pertaining to the incredible event that secretly took place in the Kirtland Temple wherein Father Abraham restores the gospel of Abraham…

  8. NEPT says:

    I went back and read JST Genesis 14 a few times over, and this last time, when I read verse 29 (27-29), “And it was delivered unto men by the calling of his own voice, according to his own will, unto as many as believed on his name., I was reminded of Christ’s baptism and subsequent arrival of the Holy Ghost – that God’s own voice was heard from heaven declaring that Christ was his beloved Son.

    We have discussed previously that the highest priesthood is bestowed by God’s own voice, just as it says in the verse above; and when one obtains this priesthood, he becomes a Son of God (Son/Daughter of Christ as Abinadi explains). Given what happened at Christ’s baptism, I suppose it’s not that far of a stretch to suggest exactly what you have done, Watcher. Perhaps baptism by fire and the Holy Ghost results in conferral of the highest priesthood, which would mean that the oath and covenant of the priesthood is baptism.

    Maybe I’m coming around after all, Watcher!


    On the other hand….

    If you go back a few chapters to JST Genesis 9, I read a little different take on the “everlasting covenant”.

    When speaking with Noah after the waters had subsided, the Lord tells Noah:

    21 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant, which I made unto thy father Enoch; that, when men should keep all my commandments, Zion should again come on the earth, the city of Enoch which I have caught up unto myself.

    22 And this is mine everlasting covenant, that when thy posterity shall embrace the truth, and look upward, then shall Zion look downward, and all the heavens shall shake with gladness, and the earth shall tremble with joy;

    23 And the general assembly of the church of the firstborn shall come down out of heaven, and possess the earth, and shall have place until the end come. And this is mine everlasting covenant, which I made with thy father Enoch.

    I’m not quite sure what this everlasting covenant has to do with baptism, except that it was renewed with Noah after the earth itself was baptized. It seems that the Lord is saying his everlasting covenant with Enoch was that Zion would return to the earth in the latter days at a time when the saints would return to their covenants.

    Can you tie these two apparent discrepancies together?

  9. Fabledsog says:

    Maybe embrace the truth is a bit shallow?

  10. NEPT

    I tend to agree with Fabledsog, who seems to have a gift for picking up subtle statements within the word of God.

    I think “embrace the truth” pretty much covers it.

    I think the scriptures don’t always spell things out with clarity. We must search and use corresponding passages to fill in the blanks.

    It is just like the passage in Moses that tells us that Father Adam “cried out” unto the Lord before being baptized.

    I think it is not a stretch to assume that Adam was making a declaration of his belief and commitment to Christ, and willingness to serve him, when he cried out. Yet you would not necessarily understand that without searching the wealth of information given us on the topic in the other scriptures.

    The corresponding information in the scriptures make it clear what he was crying out.

    Conversely, we know from the wealth of information we have on the topic that all of the people of Melchizedek’s Zion and Enoch’s Zion had to enter into the gate the same way everyone else does… through the oath and covenant of the Father.

    Is it a far stretch to assume that “embrace the truth” included entering into the New and Everlasting Covenant” of Baptism of water, fire and Holy Ghost?

  11. NEPT says:

    Since Watcher so thoroughly enjoyed hammering me for the second part of my comment, LOL, which I admit was weak, I will point out that the first topic (Christ’s baptism) seemed to strongly favor his point of view!

    In addition, a counter to my weak argument regarding the “everlasting covenant” is also a subtlety found in verse 21.

    “…that I may remember the everlasting covenant, which I made unto thy father Enoch; that, when men should keep all my commandments, Zion should again come on the earth…”

    What are the commandments if not repentance and baptism?

    So, now that I seem to be tipping to your side of the fence, Watcher, can you stop flogging me??!! LOL, 🙂

  12. Fabledsog says:

    To be honest, I was quite ignorant of the scriptures not too long ago. I suppose gifts can be quite subtle themselves.

    Anyways there might be more supporting evidence of three priesthoods, not just two. I guess you could call it another subtle statement..maybe.

    72 The messenger who visited us on this occasion and conferred this Priesthood upon us, said that his name was John, the same that is called John the Baptist in the New Testament, and that he acted under the direction of Peter, James and John, who held the keys of the Priesthood of Melchizedek, which Priesthood, he said, would in due time be conferred on us, and that I should be called the first Elder of the Church, and he (Oliver Cowdery) the second. It was on the fifteenth day of May, 1829, that we were ordained under the hand of this messenger, and baptized.
    (Pearl of Great Price | JS-History 1:72)

    Take a close look at the wording of Priesthood of Melchizedek. May I suggest that John the Baptist, ordained Joseph and Oliver to the Aaronic, but spoke of them both receiving not one but two higher Priesthoods. To me it seems when the Melchizedek PH, would be conferred on J and O in DUE TIME, is after them becoming the First and Second Elder of the church. Why do I say this. Hope you noticed the bold words of “due time”. I’ll comment on two linking verses, that might help you understand fully what “due time” is used for. I encourage you to search out any others for yourselves, and take some oil for guidance.

    10 And again, verily I say unto you that it is your privilege, and a promise I give unto you that have been ordained unto this ministry, that inasmuch as you strip yourselves from jealousies and fears, and humble yourselves before me, for ye are not sufficiently humble, the veil shall be rent and you shall see me and know that I am—not with the carnal neither natural mind, but with the spiritual.
    11 For no man has seen God at any time in the flesh, except quickened by the Spirit of God.
    12 Neither can any natural man abide the presence of God, neither after the carnal mind.
    13 Ye are not able to abide the presence of God now, neither the ministering of angels; wherefore, continue in patience until ye are perfected.
    14 Let not your minds turn back; and when ye are worthy, in mine own due time, ye shall see and know that which was conferred upon you by the hands of my servant Joseph Smith, Jun. Amen.
    (Doctrine and Covenants | Section 67:10 – 14)

    Section 67 is talking about the Elders in the 2nd PH, why they didn’t receive the Highest PH. OK now I hope you understand that only the Lord, can confer the Highest PH, and since J.S did not confer the A PH. What did he confer..the 2nd PH, because the Lord is talking to the when they are worthy, they shall see and know God. how great is that to be that close to do that, remove the mysteriousness of God. Some may say not to seek the mysteries. but I hope they soon understand that God is the greatest mystery there is, and we need to seek and serve Him with all our heart, mind and strength, and see and know Him. And then we can truly say we have a testimony of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. So therefore if we aren’t seeking the mysteries, how are we to know God, and He us? To give the fulness of Charity, we must receive the Fulness. Charity is the Pure Love of Christ. How can you fully be charitable, if you don’t fully know Christ and his ways. May I also suggest that you have to be purified, to give pure love. I am not condemning, but encouraging to continually seek the greatest mystery. But I’m not discouraging loving others, but saying that it can be perfected in due time. By seeking the mysteries and seeing and knowing for yourselves. For this one reason I seek the greatest mystery, so that I may love others with purity, without spot in due time. I’m sorry to intermix my feelings on Charity, and mysteries, and PH. But you can not separate them, for they work hand by hand.

    19 I give unto you these sayings that you may understand and know how to worship, and know what you worship, that you may come unto the Father in my name, and in due time receive of his fulness.
    20 For if you keep my commandments you shall receive of his fulness, and be glorified in me as I am in the Father; therefore, I say unto you, you shall receive grace for grace.
    (Doctrine and Covenants | Section 93:19 – 20)

    So now do think that in “due time”, might be in relation with Highest Priesthood, or a fulness therein?

    I will finish up that, due time also relates with Zion, Sealed Plates, and the Millennium with Christ.
    And to enjoy these things, we must receive the Fulness the baptism of Fire, and of Holy Ghost.

    I long for the day, when I can enjoy these things, with all those willing, in due time.

  13. Fabledsog

    Your observation regarding the use of “in due time” is absolutely incredible… and it does provide proof of two more priesthoods, one that holds the keys to getting the Melchizedek priesthood and one that IS the Melchizedek Priesthood!

    I would certainly agree that the use of that phrase in the words of John the Baptist to Joseph and Oliver as contained in JS History does pertain to the use of it in the other two scriptures you referred to.

    It is important to realize that the elders that God was speaking to in section 67 had already had the Highest Melchizedek priesthood “conferred” upon them by Gods servants according to the voice of God out of the heavens… the problem was that even though they had been “called”, they had not yet been “chosen”. They had not yet received the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost, as Lyman Wight had… They had not yet seen the face of God the Father as Lyman Wight had.

    My interpretation of this most incredible find of yours if that Peter James and John held the priesthood “keys” that unlock the highest priesthood, namely the patriarchal priesthood named after Abraham and Moses which was conferred upon Joseph and Oliver that same year. That priesthood has the authority to baptize and confirm. Hence, once a person enters into the New and Everlasting Covenant of baptism, they through their faith and righteousness can be called to the highest priesthood by the voice of God out of heaven.
    After that, they must move forward in faith and righteousness until the Father sends the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost.

    The actual Melchizedek Priesthood that would be conferred upon Joseph and Oliver “in due time” was not referring to the patriarchal priesthood that they got from Peter James and John, but rather it was the highest Melchizedek Priesthood that was conferred upon Joseph at the Morley Farm and it was conferred upon Oliver shortly after that.

    (Peter, James and John also undoubtedly also were High Priests after the order of Melchizedek but this is not the priesthood that they conferred upon Joseph and Oliver)

    Fantastic find Fabled… you are a sublime seeker of subtle and subliminal secrets in the scriptures..

    “I will finish up that, due time also relates with Zion, Sealed Plates..”

    The fact that “due time” refers to the events of the 3rd watch in the other scriptures it shows up in, seems to indicate that God was foretelling that these good brethren who were struggling with fear and jealousy would see the face of God in the flesh during the 3rd watch…

  14. Fabledsog says:

    Yeah the elders wording musta threw me, so elders of my church, doesn’t necessarily mean the actual office of an elder.

    1 BEHOLD, thus saith the Lord your God unto you, O ye elders of my church, hearken ye and hear, and receive my will concerning you.
    2 For verily I say unto you, I will that ye should overcome the world; wherefore I will have compassion upon you.
    (Doctrine and Covenants | Section 64:1 – 2)

    Also I confused conferred with ordained, but that mistake taught me something else, by another mistake. John the Baptist didn’t ordain Joseph and Oliver the A PH, he conferred it.

    1 UPON you my fellow servants, in the name of Messiah I confer the Priesthood of Aaron, which holds the keys of the ministering of angels, and of the gospel of repentance, and of baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; and this shall never be taken again from the earth, until the sons of Levi do offer again an offering unto the Lord in righteousness.
    (Doctrine and Covenants | Section 13:1)

    So if JS conferred the Highest PH with the voice of God. That would explain why the voice of the Lord was also heard during the conferring of the Aaronic PH, according to Oliver..hmm

  15. It is my understanding that when an elder is called to be a high priest, he still retains his office as an elder as well.

    I think that all of the people specifically mentioned in section 64 had had the HP conferred upon them and they were awaiting the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost, nevertheless, they are still called elders.

    verse one which is addressing the elders of his church certainly appears to be addressing all of the elders of the Church including those not yet called to be HP’s.

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  17. JennyP1969 says:

    Hi again, Watcher…..

    Another night burning the 2:00AM oil. This post stands out to me for a couple reasons.

    You wrote of a declaration of an oath to God to follow Him and keep His commandments — both known and as yet, unknown — which makes me think of Adam’s words at a certain place and time: Oh God, hear the words of my mouth. To me, this Adam’s public declaration.

    Which leads me to another realization…..the priesthood we now have is patriarchal and is a lesser priesthood than Melchizedek…..and so is the current endowment! Bear with me and my less-than-stellar articulation…

    Those words of Adam are a public declaration of his. Today, in our
    temple, that declaration (I used to think it was a plea!) is a literal sign!–a sign of the 2nd you-know-what of the Melchizedek priesthood! —- the whole modern-day endowment is
    PREPARATORY for the Melchizedek level of priesthood! — “whereas you are only ordained to become such!! Throughout, patrons progress from covenant to covenant, and priesthood to priesthood!

    I could never figure out why my husband who holds the Melchizedek priesthood supposedly, and is a High Priest…..goes to the temple to wear the robes of the holy priesthood and yet was only “ordained to BECOME” and by faithfulness all patrons “will be called up”!!

    It’s the right endowment!!!!!!!! Melchizedek priesthood is not yet, but is to come!—In a future event!

    Joseph got it right!

    Hang with me still……

    We go there and make a public declaration “before God, angels, and these witnesses” and all those who are in the same session!
    Granted, this is not done BEFORE baptism of water, but IT IS before baptism by fire and the Holy Ghost! Because the church as a whole rejected the higher laws and priesthood, they were rejected as a church and given a lesser law and priesthood……but in His ever amazing mercy the Lord provides us an endowment to progress from level to level and priesthood to priesthood!!! We are given a new name — but not yet the name of Jesus Christ, as we’ve not yet been baptized with F and the HG.

    Further, note that, like Adam, we are WAITNING FOR MESSENGERS FROM MY FATHER! — whom we are counseled to give “strict heed unto their counsel, for they will lead us in the paths of life and salvation.” the first time these messengers come, they are in disguise. But the second time they are their true selves! They hold the keys of being The Messengers!—from God. And we will be able to DISCERN them from phony-balonies because they will be able to give us key information we will recognize. We will know Joseph and Sidney, Oliver, etc. etc.

    Oh my goodness! — I have never felt much use for the endowment. It seemed contradictory and worse even, so secretive and combination-like. Even with the above enlightenments, some of it remains perplexing. The old penalties were very troubling. The Masonic influences more so. But perhaps the Lord uses these as stumbling blocks for an apostate people who sleep.

    No wonder at the beginning He commands the brethren to “Awake! And arise!

    All of it is to prepare us for a level of priesthood lost, but soon-to-be-returned…a priesthood with power unto life and salvation, and
    all things!

    Oh, the wisdom and great goodness of our God! If we keep the oath and covenants we make to God before Him, the angels, and the mortal witnesses, He will part the veil and let us enter His presence–which is baptism by fire and the Holy Ghost!–and will endow us (women too???) with the power of the highest priesthood which saves! The devil will have no power over us!–unless we do not live up to our oaths and covenants “made in this [place] this day.”

    I believe this endowment is for this life!—not necessarily when we are passing the angels who stand as sentinels in the afterlife on the way to the gate of the CK. I now believe it is for when Joseph and others come as angels to usher in the Marvelous Work and Wonder! We will need this higher priesthood to gather the elect for the last time, to avoid deception, to triumph over the onslaught of tribulations, desolations, and evil spirits and their works.

    We are taught every needful thing to do, to become, and to know in order to be a part of the elect who gather the elect, and to be prepared for the Third Watch!

    Oh my gosh!!! The temple that has bothered me so much in my darkened condition is now a place of light and preparation for the near future! Think of that last [thing] we say right before entering through the veil……”power in the…..” !! Amazing!

    One last thing. I mean no disrespect, but the remaining things of a troubling nature might perhaps have been added and/or tampered with by BY. I’ll have to go again soon with these new insights and see if I “see” anything else.

  18. JennyP1969 says:

    I was correct earlier yesterday when I sought your thoughts on how to prepare for Joseph’s and the others return, and for the coming conflict within the church. I said I felt unsettled, as if something was right in front of me that I couldn’t “see.” I think they will come to the temples, but many won’t believe they are who they claim, nor what they counsel us to do to gather the elect. Maybe it will seem as “strange” or indiscernible as the Morley Farm. Maybe the Man of Sin will be there and cause great fear, conflict, and confusion, and perhaps many will no longer attend the temple. “Even the very elect will fall.” Oh gosh…..what if they test us with polygamy to see if we are willing to sacrifice all things? If so, I will fall.

  19. JennyP1969 says:

    No, I’m sure when I’ve had some sleep I will remember that it’s a broken heart and a contrite spirit that will be required as a sacrifice. Perhaps because of the “simpleness” of the way, many won’t be able to make that sacrifice. Again, so grateful for your studies….

  20. Ryan says:


    A few questions…

    If D&C 20:37 is the oath that one makes for the oath part of the oath and covenant of the priesthood, where does that leave women who take that oath?

    And this one…

    Who is the “whom” being referenced?

    I’ve always read it as Joseph and Oliver. However, the way it’s written makes me want to read it as Peter, James and John.

    12 And also with Peter, and James, and John, whom I have sent unto you, by whom I have ordained you and confirmed you to be apostles, and especial witnesses of my name, and bear the keys of your ministry and of the same things which I revealed unto them;

    13 Unto WHOM I have committed the keys of my kingdom, and a dispensation of the gospel for the last times; and for the fulness of times, in the which I will gather together in one all things, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth;

    (D&C 27:12-13)

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