For those who are Watching…

November 28, 2008

For general listing of all posts on both sites with brief description click here

This is the sister site of

It contains deep doctrine pertaining to the LDS Restoration Movement and the Restored Church and the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

One must first learn to swim before one enters into deep waters.

The content provided herein is for those who have been weaned from the breast and yearn for the meat. Those not prepared for the meat can choke on it.

It is for those who have contracted the spirit of watching and have made it through the “Third Watch Boot Camp” which consists of reading every numbered post in chronological order on the above mentioned three watches blog, beginning with the very first post which lays the foundation for the journey you are about to embark on.

If you make it that far and still want more information to read, this blog would be next.

If you cheat and read the information in this site first, you risk getting a big, ugly wart on the end of your nose and you will only be cheating yourself. The content in this blog will make much more sense and be much more meaningful if you lay the proper foundation first.

The deeper doctrines of the kingdom have the ability to either enhance your “testimony” of the restored gospel or expose how frail it is, based on the doctrinal and spiritual foundation you have acquired before you read this information.

Prepare for the journey of your life…. we’re not in Kansas anymore Toto


misc articles

The Bridegroom Tarried…

Seven Shepherds and an Angel

A Mystical Look at the LDS Restoration Movement

Why have ye transfigured the Holy Word of God?

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine

We have found the Messias!

The Fulness of the Father

When the Floods come and the Winds Blow and the Rains Descend
Watching for the signs in the heavens

A Second Look at the Ten Virgins
Analysing the literal meaning and time frame of the Parable of the Ten Virgins

Searching for the Holy Order and 23 High Priests-

Part 1- Lyman Wight Sees the Father and the Son

Part 2 The Man of Sin is Revealed

Part 3- Melchizedek Priesthood required to Establish Zion

Part 4- The Highest Priesthood makes you a Possessor of All Things

Part 5- Patriarchal Priesthood Administers New and Everlasting Covenant

Part 6- The Transfiguration of Lyman Wight

Part 7- True Oath & Covenant found in True Manner of Baptism

Part 8- The Gospel of Abraham and Patriarchal Polygamy

Part 9- Three Orders of Priesthood

Part 10- Three Distinct Churches Representing Three Distinct Gospel Laws

Baneemy- The Wild Ram of the Mountains
A look at one of the most amazing personalities of the LDS Restoration Movement

The Law of Adoption and the Sealing Principles
How did the Law of Adoption and Sealing Principles evolved into “Families are Forever”?

Black and White Robes- Part One
Ancient prophesies warn that latter day Israel would be seduced into a false covenant

Black and White Robes Part Two
Ancient prophesies warn that a breach will take place between God and his people

Black and White Robes Final

“I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God”
Was it only the righteous in the pre-existent war in heaven that came to earth to go through moral probation?

BECOME ye therefore perfect? OR BE ye therefore perfect?
Did Christ really mean what he said when he commanded us to BE perfect instead of to BECOME perfect?

How do we avoid being decieved? Intellectual knowledge? Warm fuzzy feelings? Or searching the word of God so the Holy Spirit can teach us through mind and our heart?

The Fulness of the Father
The doctrine of oneness and the Celestial Cloning of the Gods

“Bring AGAIN Zion”
Why is it that the Nephite Zion was not translated and caught up into heaven like the city of Enoch? Is it that they still have a mission to fulfill here on earth?

Peace and Safety
Right before the sudden destruction people will be saying “Pease and Safety”

The Return of Sidney Rigdon, God’s Spokesman- Part Four
Fourth and final part

The Unrestrained Ponderings and Pontifications of a Heretic
The mystical Union of the Sexes-Composite Beings- The Abrahamic Priesthood-

The Spiritual Wife Doctrine
The Celestial Law of Consecration requires the Holy Principle of Marital Monogamy

Notable Emails Part 1- Mormon Missionary: “I too am watching”

December 7, 2014

When I went on my mission, I had not read the Book of Mormon from cover to cover nor had I read the Bible. I admitted these things in my farewell talk to the chagrin and embarrassment of my Stake President who was sitting on the stand behind me (who also happened to be my Father).

I suspect that I was not atypical when it came to Mormon missionaries being incredibly unprepared during that early 70’s. I suspect that the more naive a missionary was, the more pure and simple his passionate “testimony” sounded to prospects who were also not hampered with too much knowledge of the scriptures.

the world of missionary work has since changed.

Have you ever wondered how much of an impact the Internet is having on the preparation of missionaries? I am not talking about how the Internet is being used for missionary work, I am talking about how much do prospective missionaries learn from the Internet, about uncorrelated Mormonism and the sanitized history of the church, before leaving to go on their missions, and how much does it impact their belief during their mission?

How many missionaries and prospective missionaries have visited anti-Mormon websites and blogs before their mission and/or during their mission?

How many have visited controversial websites and blogs like this one that speak about disturbing and faith challenging doctrinal and historical issues?

Are there missionaries out there that realize that many of the truth claims of the church are blatantly false and unsupported in scripture? If so, how does it affect how and what they teach, now that the missionaries are not required to stick with a script and are given significantly more leeway in constructing their lessons?

Are there missionaries that realize that the “follow the prophet” doctrine is a soul destroying heresy and therefore only focus on pointing people to the Book of Mormon, the simple gospel of Christ and a relationship with Christ?

I got an interesting email from a Mormon missionary about a month ago that I found to be rather interesting. He is a convert to the church that has been on his mission for nearly one year. Perhaps he celebrated his upcoming “hump” day by contacting me. I asked him if I might share his communication with my readers and he said yes.



I’ve thought of contacting you for a long time, but with 1 whopping hour of alotted email time I’ve barely the time to send out anything I’ve fully thought through.

I too am watching.

I’m 23 years old and have been out nearly a year on my mission. My name is Elder XXXXX and contacting you comes from the desire to have a candid conversation with you before things completely unravel and we find ourselves talking under other such circumstances.

So let’s talk during the calm before the storm.

First of all let me say how grateful I am to serve as a missionary. I’ve seen lives change. And I know I’ve been an instrument in the Lord’s hand in bringing light to people in dire situations. All it takes is getting them to open up the Book of Mormon.

From age 17 to 21 I was deeply involved with drugs and alcohol and clubs and parties. God called me out of the fog I was in, somehow. There must have been an angelic encounter that occurred– if only I could remember those days more clearly. Sadly from ages 21 to 22, I became intrigued by the Mormon intellects, the “wise and learned” of the latter-day Saint people. I gravitated from Terryl Givens to Denver Snuffer then to your website.

I honestly thought you were off your rocker– a conspiracy theorist no-less– but I was enthralled. It was only until being on my mission and searching the words of the Doctrine and Covenants that I came to know for myself the prophecies that are deeply embedded therein. I know the things that will happen and I’m doing my best to prepare myself and my family for it– as well as whomever I come into contact with. I want them to know the reality of God’s word, that all things in them will be fulfilled. That His judgments are coming. We need to repent and take the Holy Spirit as our guide.

This church has done so [much] for me and for many others. I come from a place where there are no Mormons and so I know the fruits of this gospel. It’s evident to me where I’m from and it’s evident on this mission. We are essentially the only church that understands the doctrine of Christ. I’ve seen people from other Christian denominations become truly born of God through the lens of this faith. I don’t fully know your entire view on the LDS church. Many would scream “apostate” at you, I’m sure. (Many have said the same thing to me when I tell them my views on certain subjects.) So there are many things we would likely disagree on. But that’s okay.

For now that’s okay. It is because right now no one can agree on anything anymore. We will become united in doctrine when the third watch begins. There are things you are wrong on, there are things I am wrong in, and there are things wrong in the church. That’s no mystery. Contentions will cease through Joseph fulfilling the second part of his dual mission.

For starters, I just want you to know that I understand what happened in the Kirtland temple, and I understand why Joseph had to do what he did. I struggled for years with “Nauvoo” and everything that that chapter of Mormon history entailed, but I now know who God truly is because of it. The controversy has forced me to SEARCH for God, instead of expecting Him at every turn of the corner.

There are many dark things happening. The church has many tares. But we know the tares will be burned. The wheat will be harvested, and the church will put on the fullness, to which it holds a right to. This will happen by divine intervention. It can only happen by the power of God. I know the servants have been chosen and will return to do what they’ve been commissioned and appointed for. Yet there is an awakening occurring! I’ve seen it in ways I never would have imagined. God is waking up His people!

I’m waiting for Him to make bare His holy arm, but yet even so there are many wonderful things at work in the lives of His Saints. 

At two firesides I’ve heard two different speakers slip up their words while teaching false precepts, to then instead teach true doctrine! Then they correct themselves and teach the falsehood. Yet the truth was said and I can tell the spirit testifying the truth to all in the room…

So I don’t know why I sent you this email if only to just tell you that. Maybe just to let you know that there are things happening. God is at work.

I’ll bear my testimony to you of God’s infinite mercy and yet of his great and terrible justice. God will cleanse this continent of all its iniquity. Vengeance will come speedily, first to those who profess to know Him, especially to the hypocrites in His church.

Yet those that are pure in heart, who have a testimony of Jesus and keep the commandments of God, will remain, safe.

See you at the New Jerusalem.

Your brother in the adopted family of God through conversion to His Son in Christ Jesus,

Elder XXXXX”


Here was my response:

“Elder XXXX

Thank you so much for your email.

Praise God for missionaries like you.

You are on an amazing journey.

You are engaged in a great work and also being prepared for a future work.

What can be more important and more spiritually rewarding right now than presenting the Book of Mormon to people and testifying of it’s truthfulness!

I am blown away by how much you appear to know for being so young. I feel we have much in common. I was a bit wild during my youth before my mission. Once on my mission I delved into the deep doctrine and mysteries instead of staying with the basics of declaring faith and repentance. I read Mormon Doctrine and Jesus the Christ during my mission which was considered to be pretty deep stuff for missionaries back in the day… shortly after the flood. ;)

I obviously did not know a fraction of what you know, back when I was on my mission.

I am curious to know how long before your mission it was that you began to study the writings of intellectuals, and Givens and then Snuffer.

I would encourage you to prayerfully consider staying away from controversial blogs like mine and Snuffers until after your mission is over so that you can stay focused on the incredibly important work that you are currently engaged in.

Keep the faith brother.

I am praying for you.


This is his reply that came many days later when he was given another small allotment of time for email correspondence:

“Thanks for the response. It’s great to hear from you, it really is. I’m also slightly amused to hear that you too went somewhat wild as a youth. It seems like a rite of passage. Yet strangely, my father was not the type. He was the straight-and-narrow his whole life. I’m oddly envious. I seem to always take the path that’s hardest. If only I could shut down my yearnings to understand everything completely. I appreciate your recommendation to stay away from controversial blogs, to stay focused on the tasks at hand. 

In my first area we literally had no investigators—[name of area]– so I couldn’t help but delve into the unanswered questions I brought with me from before the mission. I was reverted to your site (and email) when I was trying to come to my drastic conclusion of section 132. (The day I rejected it as scripture was the scariest day of my life– June 2014)

Considering that I will be receiving an iPad soon– and the church will track all my internet browsing– I won’t be able to go a surfing for things anymore. I won’t be taking any detours to your site again. But this is timely, because things on my mission have gotten extremely emotionally demanding. I don’t have time to pontificate on priesthood and temples etc.

Fall of 2011, I started reading literally everything on Joseph Smith. I’m a writer and wanted to write a novel about him from the point of view of a non-believer (which at the time I was), yet I wanted the book to be warm towards him as a human being, not being judgmental. (I’ve never spoken an ill-word towards Joseph or Mormonism, even in my “atheist” years.)

By the time I finished reading the major biographies/histories, I was a semi-believer. I knew that Joseph Smith was inspired of God, and through that I began a serious read of the Book of Mormon. By the summer of 2012 I was a believer in the early restoration and of the Book of Mormon.

To reconcile things I thought were irreconcilable, for the next year I was drawn to Terryl and Fiona Givens and John Dehlin. They helped me see beauty in the modern church. I really loved Denver Snuffer’s “Removing the Condemnation”– but PTHG was a joke. It certainly hit a spot, though. It made me reflect on things I tried to brush off. In the summer of 2013 I was waiting to go on my mission, still with many unanswered questions.

I feel like the majority of my past concerns no longer bother me. I try to focus less on the Doctrine and Covenants and more on the gospels of the New Testament and the missionary efforts in the Book of Mormon. The mysteries can wait.

You read Mormon Doctrine on your mission? Was that missionary approved? Haha

Someone left a copy of Visions of Glory in our apartment for the missionaries to (disobediently) read. That was an interesting find. Luckily, my comp didn’t mind my reading it.”

I must say, I was a little surprised to have such a conversation with a Mormon missionary. He is obviously the exception to the rule, nevertheless, I don’t think he is the only one that is on the journey of seeking deeply to understand the scriptures and the true history of the church that is not found in correlated Mormonism.

It is fascinating to hear from a Mormon missionary who understands and believes in doctrine of the three watches and rejects section 132, who realizes that all is not well in Zion and  who is awakening to the true history of the past restoration while awaiting the future one.

Missionary work is critical and there is only one church that is seriously attempting to get the Book of Mormon out there, even if they do bundle the sales pitch with a lot of heresy.

Getting the Book of Mormon into the hands of as many people as possible is as important as it ever was. Praise God for young men who are willing to make the sacrifice of doing missionary work while carrying some doubts and the burden the comes with knowing that not all of what they are expected to teach, is true.

Miscellaneous Musings #13 Peter was a High Priest

November 30, 2014

Attention to the email subscribers to this blog: Many of my posts have youtubes embedded in them. If you want to see the youtubes, you need to visit the actual blog at . Youtubes cannot be seen in an email.

Watch the Metals

“Watch The Metals, When They Dip. It Will Be A Good Indication That Things Are About To Happen.”

Condensed and Updated Article on Whitmer

I often write articles backwards, beginning with my ending conclusion and working my way forward. I don’t know why I do this except that I was a breach-birth and have done many things back-ass-wards in my life.

The problem with writing narratives backwards is that my articles end up longer and more repetitive that they otherwise would be. (I’ve never taken a writing class and, for all intents and purposes, failed English in high school) Such was the case with my last blog post on David Whitmer, which was somewhat long and repetitive.

I have since attempted to clean it up and update it to include the change in the wording of the baptismal ordinance which is critical to the article, I then put it in a pdf. (thanks for bringing the change in the ordinance to my remembrance NEPT)

The new and hopefully improved article can be viewed here

Series on Email Correspondence

I have gotten a few interesting emails in response to that article which has motivated me to do a series highlighting email correspondence in the past. I have received many interesting communications over the years that have given me ideas for blogs, but I seldom act on those ideas. It occurs to me that simply sharing some of these communications might make for some interesting posts.

When I start this series, that names and even screen names of those I am communicating with will be removed to protect both the guilty and the innocent, however, if you have sent me emails and would still prefer that I not post them, just send me a quick email telling me. (any previous emails where it was already been requested to be kept confidential will be honored)

Power from on High

greg prince

 I have been reading “Power from on High: The Development of Mormon Priesthood” by Gregory Prince, an LDS author.

A historian of the Community of Christ (RLDS) church recommended it to me when I was discussing priesthood with him.

I am really impressed with it. Prince is one of the few authors of LDS history that treats the restoration of the office of High Priest at the Morley Farm in 1831 seriously, despite not fully understanding the full implications of the event.

It is gratifying to see the general historical timeline summary that I have uncovered, emerge as I read books about LDS history

timeline 2

 First John the Baptist.. then Elijah

In the Book, Prince makes the following observation several times:

Although Elijah did not become associated with priesthood for anotyher two years, he gradually became the most important figure for latter day Saint authority. Indeed, after 1840, Smith never associated Moroni, John the Baptist, or Peter, James, and John- previous angelic ministers- with the concept of priesthood, opting to instead emphasize Elijah..” (Pg 2, etc.)

Prince does not blatantly divulge his personal view of this transitional focus on priesthood restoration from John the Baptist to Elijah in the later years of Joseph’s ministry. It is not clear to me if he sees it as a disconnect, a curiosity, or blatant revisionism.

He is really good at presenting the facts and withholding judgment.

It would be interesting to have Prince read the following article and get his response. I believe the following article clears the confusion up.

Snuffing at Section 110

I suspect this was one of the many books Snuffer studied in preparation for writing PTHG. I think Snuffer must have been highly influenced by this book by Prince, and perhaps it had something to do with Snuffer’s confusion about priesthood and his obsession with the future mission of Elijah.

Ultimately, Snuffer has completely misunderstood that patriarchal priesthood is a lessor, patriarchal priesthood, while the Melchizedek priesthood represents the fulness of priesthood which must be received according to the voice of God out of heaven and which was had by Enoch, Elijah and Melchizedek.

Sadly, Snuffer has implied that he rejects section 110 in PTHG and other articles.

It seems strange indeed to me that Snuffer has tried to destroy people’s belief in the validity of section 110, while not definitively taking a personal stand on the issue. He claims to have been taught by Christ multiple times. He claims he has a message for the world from Christ. He claims to have wrested the priesthood away from the leaders of the corporate church.

He claims that thousands of his followers have been re-baptised per his instructions and protocol, (which I do not believe)  and yet, despite his professed advanced state as a revelatory luminary, he cannot take a bold stand one way of the other on whether Joseph and Oliver did in fact experience a secret visitation behind the veil with Christ and other ministering angels. It is a serious thing to reject revelation.

My personal belief is that Snuffer now realizes that he got ahead of himself and made a huge mistake when he questioned the veracity of Section 110, but he will not admit his mistake because he does not want to admit to such a huge blooper which exposes the fact that he is utterly clueless about a number of basic issues.

I realize those in the Snufferite movement feel that I am being too hard on him and that I should just leave him alone. I admit that I have probably made lots of doctrinal errors in my pontifications, but hey, heretics like me simply throw out our opinions to get people to search the scriptures. We are not claiming doctrinal infallibility nor are we claiming to be prophets. We are not claiming to have the authority to instruct others to get re-baptised, etc.

Once a person makes the kind of claims that Snuffer has made, it puts a burden of responsibility on the rest of us to test his claims and test the doctrines he teaches against the word of God.

After all, if he was a true prophet, as he claims to be, I would certainly want to listen to the message from God’s Servant!

I have indeed studied his claims. I have carefully read and studied the doctrines he teaches and the claims he has made. As far as I am concerned he has been weighed in the balance and found wanting, as far as getting this country boy to following his advice or believe his doctrines.

It is difficult to believe it has now been over a year since I publicly challenged Brother Snuffer to a debate. My desire was to expose the many false teachings in his book and reduce the number of deceived followers that he has. Ironically, he has probably done more damage to his own credibility, by making the  ridiculous claims he did in his last talk, than I could have done in a debate.

 The Young Family and Patriarchal Priesthood

One of the fascinating things that I learned from the book is that the first patriarchal blessings took place AFTER the rejection of the fulness of the priesthood and just prior to the sending of the patriarchal gospel to the House of Israel.

Guess which family of the restoration was the first to begin giving patriarchal blessings?

The Joseph Smith Sr. Family?


The John Young family. John Young was the father of Brigham Young!

This makes so much sense to me because Brigham Young became the presiding apostle over the taking of the gospel to the Jews via the patriarchal priesthood. The John Young family is a major player in the fulfillment of God’s promise to Abraham, that Abraham and his seed would take the gospel to the nations of the world.

For more information about patriarchal priesthood and how the Abrahamic promise is fulfilled through patriarchal lineage, see the following article which shows how Section 110 and the Book of Abraham provide a reciprocal witness of each others divine origin.

James B. Jordan

James B. Jordan is a Biblical Scholar that has written many very interesting articles. The other day as I was pondering David Whitmer’s claim the Christ was the last High Priest, I began studying the topic in the New Testament to see where whitmer got that notion. It never says that Christ was the last high priests. Indeed, a careful reading of Paul writing on the subject in the Book of Hebrews indicates to me just the opposite. Anyway, I googled “Christ was a High Priest” and it led me to a remarkable article by James B. Jordan. He uses symbolism and typology to prove that Peter became the high priest in Jerusalem after the crucifixion.

The Bible Mattrix

 We are all Catholics right Now

 Did you know that every person on this earth is a Catholic right now?

Including you.

Probably not.

The USA-Inc. is a subsidiary of the Crown which is a subsidiary of the Vatican and their masonic-Jesuit-combination.

You probably think this notion is laughable right?

romney and bishopAt one time the USA did not even allow diplomatic relations with the Vatican because it was common knowledge that the Vatican considers the Pope to have supreme universal spiritual and temporal power over all churches and all people.

Papal Supremacy

“Papal supremacy is the doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church that the pope, by reason of his office as Vicar of Christ and as pastor of the entire Christian Church, has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church, a power which he can always exercise unhindered: that, in brief, “the Pope enjoys, by divine institution, supreme, full, immediate, and universal power in the care of souls.”

To fully understand just how serious the Vatican is about maintaining the Popes universal power of the souls of man, one needs to read The Jesuit Extreme Oath of Induction

kennedy mckayIt is interesting how many pics there are on the internet, of church leaders and politicians that are swapping the “nail” with each other.

The sad truth is that both of the major political parties are given their marching orders by a secret cabal deep in the bowels of the Vatican. And I am sure that there is nothing I can say right now to convince you otherwise so I won’t try.

tom handshake
In 1988, President Benson gave this warning in General Conference

I testify… Secret combinations lusting for power, gain, and glory are flourishing. A secret combination that seeks to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries is increasing its evil influence and control over America and the entire world. (See Ether 8:18–25.)

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Nevertheless, I would submit that all of us are essentially members of the Catholic Church because of a secret combination that has infiltrated virtually all governments and major organizations..

romney 11

Once the light shines forth and the Kingdom of God is restored to the earth, that will all change.

Gord and handshake

Our status will not change until the servants return with the keys of the kingdom and the fulness of the Gospel/priesthood.

Until then, there is a secret cabal that has dominion over the whole world

“..Save Two Churches Only..”

Once the kingdom is restored, there will again, be two churches vying for power on the earth. At that time, everyone in the world will need to choose which church they want to belong to and whether they will labor for money, or for Zion. Will it be the Church of the Devil or the Church of the Lamb of God?

The following passage in the Book of Mormon  is continuously misunderstood and misquoted because people assume that the “Church of the Lamb of God” is on the earth right now:

And it came to pass that he said unto me: Look, and behold that great and abominable church, which is the mother of abominations, whose founder is the devil.
10  And he said unto me: Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth.
11  And it came to pass that I looked and beheld the whore of all the earth, and she sat upon many waters; and she had dominion over all the earth, among all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people.
12  And it came to pass that I beheld the church of the Lamb of God, and its numbers were few, because of the wickedness and abominations of the whore who sat upon many waters; nevertheless, I beheld that the church of the Lamb, who were the saints of God, were also upon all the face of the earth; and their dominions upon the face of the earth were small, because of the wickedness of the great whore whom I saw.
13  And it came to pass that I beheld that the great mother of abominations did gather together multitudes upon the face of all the earth, among all the nations of the Gentiles, to fight against the Lamb of God.

Are you a member of the Church of the Lamb of God right now?

Don’t flatter yourself.

It is not currently on the earth right now.

The scriptures tell us what signs will follow the true disciples of Christ once the fulness has returned to the earth. Those signs are not on the earth right now.

Did you know that the Vatican called a summit on marriage and they summoned leaders from the LDS church to attend?

pope francis and eyring

Naturally, at the bequest of the first Jesuit pope, the LDS church sent President Eyring to give an inspiring talk on marriage and rub shoulders with their controllers. The leaders of the church must have been giddy about the invitation because the Vatican has pretty much publicly snubbed the Mormons at these kinds of public events in the past. We have come a long way baby!

I suspect it was a spiritual experience for President Eyring to look deep into the eyes of the man that is the temporal and spiritual mouthpiece of the God of this world.

Selling the benefits and features of marriage

 President Eyring gave a wonderful talk on marriage at the Vatican summit. He sold the advantages of marriage based on the features and benefits of marriage. Frankly, I was a little surprised that someone claiming to be an apostle of Jesus Christ didn’t simply quote from Genesis and other scriptures, and authoritatively declare that the monogamous marital union between one man and one woman is a commandment of God.

In his talk President Eyring was able to testify that he was an “Eye Witness” of the institution of marriage. It must have been wonderful to be able to testify of being an eye witness of something.

Crushing David Whitmer’s Stumbling Block

November 23, 2014

I am taking a short intermission from the “endowment” and “temple” section of the Zion series. Doing so will give newbies to this blog additional time to seek therapy.

This post is actually part of two different series. It is part three of the COMMANDMENTS-DOCTRINE-COVENANTS series. Parts one and two of that series can be reviewed at the following links:



This post also serves as part six of the “Are You Sure You Are a Gentile?” series. The previous parts of that series can be found on the links below:

Are You Sure You Are a Gentile? Part One

Are You Sure You Are a Gentile? Part Two

Are You Sure You Are a Gentile? Part Three

Are You Sure You Are a Gentile? Part Four

Are You Sure You Are a Gentile? Part Five

[ An updated version of this post has been created in a pdf at the following location

Crushing David Whitmer’s Stumbling Block 2 ]

Choking on the Words of David Whitmer

Many an exposé has been written about Joseph Smith and Mormonism over the years but perhaps few have been as damaging as the one written by David Whitmer. Maybe that is because he was a believing Gentile that was called to be a witness of the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon, and because he continued believing in the Book of Mormon even after rejecting Joseph Smith as the dispensational prophet that he was.

If you have been choking on the diatribe known as “An address to All Believers in Christ“, I would suggest reading all of the above links to get a better feel for how David Whitmer plays into the prophetic role of the Gentiles rejecting the fulness.

david whitmer

Whitmer Starts his own Church

Shortly after leaving the church, following the failure of the Saints to establish Zion and the banking failure in Kirtland, David Whitmer attempted to start his own church in Kirtland Ohio, known as the Church of Christ (Whitmerite).

The church failed quite quickly.

Many years later, he would make a second attempt.

In January 1876, Whitmer resurrected the Church of Christ (Whitmerite) by ordaining his nephew, John C. Whitmer an elder, and giving him the title First Elder. That church also failed. (Deseret News; The Return, vol. 3, no. 3, October 1892, pp. 3-5; George Sweich, “David Whitmer and the Church of Christ,” Magazine of Western History, New York, vol. 14, May 1891—October 1891, p 520.)

Ten years after his second failed attempt to start up a church, in 1887, Whitmer wrote a critical exposé on Joseph Smith and Mormonism. For some strange reason, in that exposé he denied ever starting a church, or at the very least, he made a statement about a singular event calculated to make it sound as if he never started a church:

Brother Joseph ordained me his successor… it is in your records, and there are men now living who were present in that council of elders when he did it, in the camp of Zion, on Fishing River, Missouri, July, 1834. This is why many of the brethren came to me after Brother Joseph was killed, and importuned me to come out and lead the church. I refused to do so. Christ is the only leader and head of his church.

In the exposé, Whitmer never denied his testimony of the Book of Mormon. Much of his contention was based on the belief that Joseph Smith was never given the gift of translating anything besides the Book of Mormon. Indeed, he claimed that Joseph was also never given any other spiritual gifts that the other elders of the restored church were given, outside of the limited, one time gift to translate the Book of Mormon. The larger narrative he presents if that Joseph was called to administer no other “work” than simply translating the Book of Mormon, aside from being equal with the other elders in patterning a church after the church in the Book of Mormon.

IWhitmer’s claims question Joseph’s commission to translate the Bible and the Book of Abraham which negates the validity of the Pearl of Great Price. They also mean Joseph’s revelations stating that he was to be a seer, translator, prophet, revelator, and apostle, were fraudulent attempts to take power unto himself and that he not ordained of God to those spiritual gifts and callings.

BEHOLD, there shall be a record kept among you; and in it thou shalt be called a seer, a translator, a prophet, an apostle of Jesus Christ, an elder of the church through the will of God the Father, and the grace of your Lord Jesus Christ..” (Section 21:1 See also Section 100 in which Joseph is identified as a revelator)

Whitmer was claiming that Joseph was NOT called to receive additional revelation for the church, or to restore priesthood keys, the law of the gospel, to gather Israel, or any other calling that requires a spiritual gift or that singles him out from the other elders, in a leadership capacity, etc.

Joseph Had No Other Calling or Spiritual Gifts?

Whitmer claimed that after the Book of Mormon was translated, all of the elders of the church were equal with each other and that they were cumulatively given the commission of using the Book of Mormon as the blueprint for establishing the Church of Christ. He maintained that Joseph Smith was called to no other work that required the following spiritual gifts and callings

  • Prophet
  • Seer
  • Revelator
  • Translator
  • Apostle

Whitmer’s Stumbling Block

Whitmer’s rejection of Joseph Smith as a prophet, apostle, seer, and revelator, negates all of the revelations given after the Book of Mormon was completed and virtually everything of significance that he ever did during his 14 year ministry. Here is perhaps the foundational stumbling block upon which he stubbed his toe:

“I will prove that God called Brother Joseph to translate the Book of Mormon only, and that he was not called to organize and establish the church any more than the rest of us Elders. That God commanded him that he should pretend to no other gift but to translate the Book of Mormon, that God would grant him no other gift.”

Whitmer derived his heretical belief from misinterpreting a singular passage found in the fourth chapter of the Book of Commandments

BofC 4:2
“…he [Joseph Smith]… he has a gift to translate the book [of Mormon] , and I have commanded him that he shall pretend to no other gift, for I will grant him no other gift.”

The above passage is one of the foundational suppositions upon which Whitmer builds his suppositions for the rest of his thesis.

Circular Reasoning?

Shockingly, Whitmer was challenging the validity of virtually any revelation received through Joseph Smith after the translation of the Book of Mormon was finished, which would include the revelation that the above passage and related argument was founded upon! This quasi-circular reasoning fails in my opinion. Whitmer’s supposition that all of Joseph’s revelations beyond the translation of the Book of Mormon to be questionable, negates the very passage that he uses to prove Joseph was not given additional spiritual gifts and unique callings.


Whitmer’s indigestion comes from the fact that the above passage was altered by Joseph Smith when put in the 1835 Doctrine and Covenants. See the comparison below:

BofC 4:2 D&C 5:4
“…he [Joseph Smith] has no power over them except I grant it unto him; and he has a gift to translate the book [of Mormon], and I have commanded him that he shall pretend to no other gift, for I will grant him no other gift.” you have no power over them except I grant it unto you.5:4 And you have a gift to translate the plates; and this is the first gift that I bestowed upon you; and I have commanded that you should pretend to no other gift until my purpose is fulfilled in this; for I will grant unto you no other gift until it is finished.

Despite some problematic logic in his exposé, it is pretty compelling to those who are not well acquainted with the Book of Mormon and the history of the church, particularly those that have rejected the future the mission of Joseph the Seer. I suspect it was so compelling that it was no doubt successful in alienating many people from the believing in the divine calling that the Lord had given Joseph Smith, as a prophet, seer and revelator. A reoccurring theme in Whitmer’s thesis is that Sidney Rigdon was the culprit that adversely influenced Joseph Smith to deviate from his limited calling and take undeserved calling unto himself.

The Lord’s Spokesman

Whitmer was challenging the calling that had been given to Sidney Rigdon, as a “spokesman” to the church and to Joseph Smith, as stated in section 100:

“And it is expedient in me that you, my servant Sidney, should be a spokesman unto this people; yea, verily, I will ordain you unto this calling, even to be a spokesman unto my servant Joseph.

10 And I will give unto him power to be mighty in testimony.

11 And I will give unto thee power to be mighty in expounding all scriptures, that thou mayest be a spokesman unto him, and he shall be a revelator unto thee, that thou mayest know the certainty of all things pertaining to the things of my kingdom on the earth.”

According to the above revelation, Rigdon and Smith were to have a synergistic relationship with Rigdon being the Lords spokesman in expounding the scriptures to Joseph Smith and the church, while Joseph reveals new revelation to Sidney Rigdon and the Church.

The above revelation, as well as Section 124:104, is identifying Rigdon as the “spokesman” of Joseph the Seer that was prophesied of in the Book of Mormon:

And the Lord hath said: I will raise up a Moses; and I will give power unto him in a rod; and I will give judgment unto him in writing. Yet I will not loose his tongue, that he shall speak much, for I will not make him mighty in speaking. But I will write unto him my law, by the finger of mine own hand; and I will make a spokesman for him.

18 And the Lord said unto me also: I will raise up unto the fruit of thy loins; and I will make for him a spokesman. And I, behold, I will give unto him that he shall write the writing of the fruit of thy loins, unto the fruit of thy loins; and the spokesman of thy loins shall declare it.”

As you can see, the Book of Mormon had previously prophesied that Joseph the Seer would be given a spokesman that would declare the word of God, just as Moses was given his brother Aaron to be a spokesman.

On the first day that Joseph and Sidney met each other for the very first time, the Lord revealed through Joseph Smith, that Sidney had been prepared to play a prophetic role in the LDS restoration movement:

“Behold, verily, verily, I say unto my servant Sidney, I have looked upon thee and thy works. I have heard thy prayers, and prepared thee for a greater work.

4 Thou art blessed, for thou shalt do great things. Behold thou wast sent forth, even as John, to prepare the way before me, and before Elijah which should come, and thou knewest it not…

7 And it shall come to pass that there shall be a great work in the land, even among the Gentiles, for their folly and their abominations shall be made manifest in the eyes of all people.”

The revelation states that Joseph’s work with the Book of Mormon is not finished. He still holds the keys of the mystery pertaining to the sealed portion that will come forth at a future time.

Rigdon is commanded to watch over Joseph that his faith fail not. A warning is given that if Joseph fails to abide in the Lord, another will be planted in his stead. (this warning would be reiterated in the succession prophecy contained in Section 43 of the D&C)

And I have sent forth the fulness of my gospel by the hand of my servant Joseph; and in weakness have I blessed him;

18 And I have given unto him the keys of the mystery of those things which have been sealed, even things which were from the foundation of the world, and the things which shall come from this time until the time of my coming, if he abide in me, and if not, another will I plant in his stead.

19 Wherefore, watch over him that his faith fail not, and it shall be given by the Comforter, the Holy Ghost, that knoweth all things.”

Then the revelation to Sidney Rigdon reiterates the prophesy given in the Book of Mormon that Sidney, the Spokesman, shall “write for him” and “preach my gospel and call on the holy prophets to prove his words as they shall be given him” :

And a commandment I give unto thee—that thou shalt write for him; and the scriptures shall be given, even as they are in mine own bosom, to the salvation of mine own elect;

23 And inasmuch as ye do not write, behold, it shall be given unto him to prophesy; and thou shalt preach my gospel and call on the holy prophets to prove his words, as they shall be given him.”

Some historical accounts mentioned how relieved Joseph Smith felt after meeting Sidney Rigdon and getting that revelation because the burden of singularly shouldering the movement had been overwhelming to him and he needed someone deeply steeped in the Bible to testify of how the Book of Mormon was congruent with Biblical Christianity. Although people like Cowdery and Whitmer were enthusiastic and willing to help where they could, they were not as seasoned and knowledgeable in the word of God as Rigdon was. They simply were not qualified to do what Rigdon had been preparing his whole life to do.

That same day, in a revelation given through Joseph Smith to Edward Partridge, the Lord makes it clear that Sidney is called jointly to oversee the administration of the ministry in concert with Joseph Smith:

“.. as many as shall come before my servants Sidney Rigdon and Joseph Smith, Jun., embracing this calling and commandment, shall be ordained and sent forth to preach the everlasting gospel among the nations—”

It is not difficult to understand how jealously might have sprouted in the hearts of some of the founding fathers of the movement, that had preceded Rigdon in converting to the restored gospel. It would be difficult to be one of the leaders of the first missionary movement and then, to see a new comer enter the church and be elevated to the top leadership of the newly established church, in one day, as a result of one revelation. Sidney Rigdon had clearly been groomed by the Lord to be his spokesman to the church in expounding the scriptures. He was among the great Bible scholars and orators in the nation.

Sidney Rigdon and David Whitmer were both among an elite group of only six latter day Gentiles, that were specifically prophesied about in the Book of Mormon. Joseph Smith, Jr., the Seer, his Father, whom he had been named after, Sidney Rigdon, the spokesman, and the three witnesses of the Book of Mormon, David Whitmer, Oliver Cowdery, and Martin Harris.

Sadly, David Whitmer resented Sidney Rigdon and felt jealous of him when he entered the picture.

In Whitmer’s diatribe, Rigdon is singled out as the devious wolf in sheep’s clothing that entered into the flock to adversely influence Joseph and persuade him to introduce heretical doctrines and to take undo authority to themselves.

Whitmer’s pontifications in his “Address to all Believers in Christ” diatribe have been compelling enough that they have continued to alienate people from the prophet Joseph Smith during the last four generations, up to this very day. Sadly, there are bloggers promoting the gospel of David Whitmer even at this time, as if it contains that secret answers to what took place during the restoration movement.

I Empathize with Whitmer

Let me just say that I love David Whitmer and I empathize with the dynamics he suffered through during the restoration of the church and the dilemmas that he faced and the humiliation he endured while presiding over the Church in Zion. Given the same circumstances, I suspect that I would have arrived at some of the same conclusions he arrived at.

He correctly challenged some of the questionable things that took place during the early apostasy of the Church. Joseph Smith was not perfect before he became sanctified before the presence of the Lord, and following his atonement offering, when his eyes became covered, he appears to have been an insufferable and tyrannical piece of work.

Nevertheless, having the 20/20 hindsight that comes from two and a half decades to studying the scriptures and the history of the church, coupled with the use of scripture crunching technology, I am going have to take Brother Whitmer and his beloved stumbling block to task, by using the Book of Mormon which he is a witness of.

Historical Background & Book of Commandments 4:2

In this post I am going to first give a little historical background that will show why David Whitmer was so angry at Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon, and why his agenda was to discredit the revelations Joseph Smith brought forth. Secondly, this post will dissect and debunk David Whitmers interpretation of BofC 4:2, the passage of scripture that is foundational to most if not all of Whitmer’s claims about Joseph Smith.

Whitmer’s interpretation of the passage is that Joseph Smith was not commissioned to do any other work than translate the Book of Mormon during AND AFTER the translation process.

At face value, when compared with the changes Joseph made a few years later when the D&C was published, Whitmer’s concern seems justified. This is true of all of the changes made in the original revelations in the Book of Commandments. Without the proper historical context, many of them look questionable.

The Changes to the Revelations Were Inspired

In part one of the COMMANDMENTS-DOCTRINE.. series, it was demonstrated that the 1835 Doctrine and Covenants was never intended to be an updated, revised, or corrected version of the 1833 Book of Commandments. If it had been, there was no need to change the name of the canon of scripture, it would only need to have the “updated edition” of the Book of Commandments and printing date acknowledged, just as was done with the various editions of  the Doctrine and Covenants.

If the altered passages of scripture in the D&C had been intended to correct problems with the Book of Commandments, then David Whitmer may have been justified in his concern. But that is not the case.

Please notice that the Book of Commandments was expressly written to the restored “Church of Christ“. Inside the cover the stated purpose was  for the government of the Church of Christ

Conversely, the Doctrine and Covenants was expressly written to the condemned “Church of the Latter day Saintscarefully selected from the revelations of God. The fact that the name of Christ had officially been removed from the name of the Church, is critical in understanding what took place between the publication of these two canons of scripture.

dandc1835Few members of the modern church are aware that in 1834, a special conference was called in which Joseph Smith, Sidney Rigdon and other leaders of the church officially changed the name of the church.

The Kirtland Temple stands as a testimony concerning the name change of the church and the fact that the name of Christ had been taken out of the name of the Church before the Temple was dedicated.

kirtland temple

Understanding this is critical because it reveals that after the gentile church rejected the fulness, in 1834, the entire context is changed regarding what the Lord’s canon of scripture needs to say to his people.

Sadly, the modern, corporate church has indoctrinated people into thinking that the D&C was just a newer updated, corrected, and expanded edition of the Book of Commandments, despite the oddity of being given a completely different name. Because of this, when people critical of Joseph Smith compare the changes made in the revelations between these two records, they often jump to one of the two following, erroneous conclusions:

  1. The original revelations had errors in them that needed to be corrected, bring the credibility of Joseph Smith as a prophet into question


  1. The original revelations were accurate and authentic, but the changes that Joseph Smith made in them represented uninspired “revisionist” alterations indicating that nothing Joseph did after those changes were made can be relied upon.

Neither of the above assumptions are true.

Both of the above assumptions deny the revelatory calling of God’s anointed prophet with regard to these two different and distinct canons of scripture.

The original revelations were true in the context of the time they were given, regarding the restored Gentile Church of Christ.

The revised revelations were also true in the context of the condemned Church of the Latter day Saints, whose membership was going to quickly be changing demographics according to the prophecy of Jesus Christ as contained in 3rd Nephi 16:11-12 which fortold the gospel being taken from the Kirtland Gentiles to the converts from the House of Israel, many of which would be flowing into Nauvoo from the British Isles.

I would even suggest that there is a good possibility that the following passage of scripture in the Book of Mormon speaks singularly of the two records:

“For behold, I shall speak unto the Jews and they shall write it; [Bible]

and I shall also speak unto the Nephites and they shall write it; [Book of Mormon]

and I shall also speak unto the other tribes of the house of Israel, which I have led away, [Gentile Church of the Restoration descending from Pilgrims] and they shall write it; [Book of Commandments ]

and I shall also speak unto all nations of the earth [coverts coming into Nauvoo from the establishment of foreign missions] and they shall write it. [Doctrine and Covenants]

 13 And it shall come to pass that the Jews shall have the words of the Nephites, and the Nephites shall have the words of the Jews; and the Nephites and the Jews shall have the words of the lost tribes of Israel; and the lost tribes of Israel shall have the words of the Nephites and the Jews.”

Joseph the Seer was not Backpedaling

To the uninformed skeptic, It looks like Joseph was backpedaling and changing the original revelations to suit his evolving and emerging power base.

Not true.

It is certainly understandable how people can arrive at that conclusion based on the false assumption that the 1835 edition was simply an updated edition of the 1833 edition.

The truth is that the 1833 canon of scripture was written to the newly restored “Church of Christ” which was being given urgent COMMANDMENTS relative to establishing Zion. Hence the name Book of Commandments.

Conversely, the 1835 canon of scripture was not longer giving urgent commandments to redeem Zion. That opportunity had come and gone. The Doctrine and Covenants was written to the condemned “Church of the Latter day Saints” relative to the DOCTRINES and COVENANTS they needed to study during the “little season” of chastisement during which time they were no longer required to keep the original COMMANDMENTS necessary for establishing ZION. (See Section 105 ) Therefore the appropriate and distinctly different name of the canon, “Doctrine and Covenants“.

The term “Commandments” is not synonymous with the terms “Doctrine” or “Covenants”. That should be a huge hint to any luminaries looking for enlightenment regarding the relationship of these two canons of scripture. They clearly have a completely different purpose as well as being addressed to completely different churches, which requires a different context.

Between the printing of these two canons of scripture, the Gentile Church had rejected the fulness of the Gospel in 1834, requiring the name of Christ to be taken out of the name of the church. When that happened, the ancient dispensation of the gospel of Abraham was secretly ushered in, and the trajectory of the church was greatly altered and the whole dynamic changed in the relationship between God and his people of the restoration.

Per Section 105, given in June of 1834, the commandment to live the laws of Zion was rescinded for a little season while the Saints waited for the appointed time for the establishment of Zion to resume. The focus and purpose of the revelations changed after that and the 1835 Doctrine and Covenants needed to reflect those changes. The priesthood structure and emphasis of the church appears to have changed as well.

Another one of the significant changes between the Book of Commandments and the Doctrine and Covenants was the inclusion of the “Lectures on Faith“, one of the most revelatory writings to ever address the subject. The Lectures on Faith represented the “doctrine” portion of the Doctrine and Covenants.

Those lectures, given at the school of the prophets, were presented and sustained as doctrine and scripture. In my opinion, their inspired insertion into the D&C represented the following message from the Lord and his servants:

Children, you blew it on the first attempt at Zion and living the fulness, now let’s get back to basics and start preparing for the next opportunity when the light shines forth again, by studying about the principal of faith and the nature of God“.

Obviously, a new canon of scripture was needed that would address the new conditions of the newly condemned church.

Although the vast majority of the revelations did not require contextual revision or deletions, some clearly did. In addition to that, it appears as if many changes were made to add clarity. I contend that all of these changes were inspired and commissioned of God as he worked with imperfect and weak mortals.

A textbook example, of a passage that needed to be completely removed when the 1835 Doctrine and Covenants was published, was the prophecy that God would deliver the Saints over to Satan if they hardened their hearts:

“…If this generation do harden their hearts against my word, behold I will deliver them up unto Satan..”

That whole segment of scripture that the above prophecy was embedded in, in chapter 4 of the 1833 Book of Commandments needed to be removed before the inclusion of the chapter into the 1835 Doctrine and Covenants because the prophecy had already been fulfilled per the failure of the Saints to live consecration and the condemnation pronounced upon the saints in Section 84 and other passages.

Although God was still laboring with his Saints and giving revelations, he was also withdrawing his spirit, reducing the frequency of the revelations being offered, and taking away the priesthood hedge that can provide protection from the adversary.

Clearly the Saints were being delivered over the Satan for a little season as prophesied in the 4th chapter of the BofC. An intervention was needed and underway that would prevent the saints from being wiped off the face of the earth and enable to the knowledge of the gospel to go from the Gentiles to the Jews.

Since that particular prophecy had come to pass by the time the condemned church needed their own canon of scripture, obviously it needed to be removed from the revelation before being published into the 1835 D&C.

Taking that prophecy and related content out of the revelation for the production of the D&C was not an indicator that it was a false prophecy at the time it was given, only that it was no longer a prophecy of a future event. The removal of that prophecy is completely consistent with the new context of the condemned church.

Let’s look at another fascinating change that was made having to do with the wording of the baptismal ordinance:

Book of Commandments Doctrine and Covenants
24:52 Whosoever being called of God and having authority given them of Jesus Christ, shall go down into the water with them, and shall say, calling them by name: 24:53



Having authority given me of Jesus Christ, I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.

20:73 The person who is called of God and has authority from Jesus Christ to baptize, shall go down into the water with the person who has presented himself or herself for baptism, and shall say, calling him or her by name:


Having been commissioned of Jesus Christ, I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.

As you can see, part of the actual wording in the baptismal ordinance was changed!

Although some people believe the change in the baptismal prayer is insignificant since the terminology essentially means the same thing, no viable explanation has ever been given as to why Joseph would change the wording in the Book of Commandments. Clearly the original wording of the ordinance in the BofC was not in error, as it was identical to the wording given in the Book of Mormon. Besides, Joseph Smith never claimed the original wording was done in error or that early members of the church needed to be re-baptized with the new wording.

The Baptism Protocol Was Also Changed

It is incredibly important to realize that it was not just the change in wording in the ordinance that took place. At, or shortly after this text was changed, the actual manner in which the ordinance was performed was also corrupted and new converts were no longer required to make a public confession prior to baptism.

Notice the following format that was commanded, as documented in both the BofC and the D&C:

Book of Commandments Doctrine and Covenants
24:29 And again, by way of commandment to the church, concerning the matter of baptism; 24:30 Behold whosoever humbleth himself before God and desireth to be baptized, and comes forth with a broken heart and a contrite spirit, and witnesseth unto the church, that they have truly repented of all their sins and are willing to take upon them the name of Christ, having a determination to serve him unto the end, and truly manifest by their works that they have received the Spirit of Christ unto the remission of their sins, then shall they be received unto baptism into the church of Christ. 20:37 And again, by way of commandment to the church concerning the manner of baptism– All those who humble themselves before God, and desire to be baptized, and come forth with broken hearts and contrite spirits, and witness before the church that they have truly repented of all their sins, and are willing to take upon them the name of Jesus Christ, having a determination to serve him to the end, and truly manifest by their works that they have received of the Spirit of Christ unto the remission of their sins, shall be received by baptism into his church.

As already documented, the Saints had cumulatively rejected the law of the gospel as contained in section 42 and rejected the fulness of the Gospel, which, effectively, collectively broke the everlasting covenant that they had entered into. This change in wording is congruent with the change in context that had taken place with the condemned church. Furthermore, it documents and confirms the fulfillment of the ominous prophetic words of Isaiah who saw the future apostasy of the restored church and the breaking of the everlasting covenant:

The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.

References to the 3rd Watch (Marvelous Work and a Wonder)

By analyzing each of the changes made in the revelations contained in the 1833 Book of Commandments and the 1835 Doctrine and Covenants one can see that the Doctrine and Covenants had an overall different purpose and was addressing a different church in a drastically different circumstance.

Another interesting observation I have made is that instead of focusing on an urgent need to redeem Zion, the D&C begins making futuristic references to the great last work that was to take place four generations later. Notice how the following passage was changed to make reference to Oliver’s future calling in the  3rd watch or what the Book of Mormon refers to as the Marvelous Work and a Wonder.

Book of Commandments Doctrine and Covenants
7:3 O remember, these words and keep my commandments. Remember this is your gift. Now this is not all, for you have another gift, which is the gift of working with the rod: behold it has told you things: behold there is no other power save God, that can cause this rod of nature, to work in your hands, for it is the work of God; and therefore whatsoever you shall ask me to tell you by that means, that will I grant unto you, that you shall know. 8:5 Oh, remember these words, and keep my commandments. Remember, this is your gift.

8:6 Now this is not all thy gift; for you have another gift, which is the gift of Aaron; behold, it has told you many things;

8:7 Behold, there is no other power, save the power of God, that can cause this gift of Aaron to be with you.

8:8 Therefore, doubt not, for it is the gift of God; and you shall hold it in your hands, and do marvelous works; and no power shall be able to take it away out of your hands, for it is the work of God.

8:9 And, therefore, whatsoever you shall ask me to tell you by that means, that will I grant unto you, and you shall have knowledge concerning it.

The above changes give greater clarity to what the “rod of nature” is, calling it the “gift of Aaron”. Moses’ brother Aaron had also used a rod. The passage reveals that the gift the Oliver has is a revelatory gift. The passage also prophesies that during the last great work, Oliver will “do marvelous works” and “no power shall be able to take it away out of your hands”

Those are clear references to Oliver’s work that will take place when the Marelous Work and the dispensation of the fulness of times is ushered in.

All of the Revelatory Changes Conform to the Change of Context

All of the changes made by Joseph smith were simply making the revelations contextually correct and providing additional clarity for the newly condemned church. Indeed, Joseph Smith never intimated that the changes he made in the revelations were needed to correct erroneous revelations in the Book of Commandments. People have simply assumed that.

Context is everything and the context had changed once the gentile church rejected the fulness.

Could Joseph Smith have communicated the above information to the Saints so that people would not freak out?

Of course.

But the Lord did not allow him to.

The Lord wanted to provide a stumbling block for David Whitmer and the Gentiles. It was all prophesied about in the Book of Mormon. David Whitmer and his gentile brethren were fulfilling prophecy!

Sometimes God Reveals his SECRETS to the Prophets..
..but NOT the rest of the Saints!

Silence about certain events was actually a trademark of Joseph Smith’s ministry. He often did things without providing an explanation.When asked by Hyrum at an early meeting of the elders of the church to stand and recount the events leading up the establishment of the church, Joseph refused and said it was not necessary for them to know all of those things.

The name change of the church in 1834 is another example of not providing a detailed commentary on what was going on. It was done opening in a special conference of the Church, but without any explanation, according to the account given in the history of the Church, even though the action was very controversial and resulted in some people leaving the church.

The account of the visitation behind the veil which is now documented in section 110 is another example. After experiencing one of the greatest spiritual endowments in the history of religion, Joseph and Oliver emerged from behind the veil and walked past a group priesthood leaders and did not utter a word about what they had just experienced. For the remainder of their lives, neither of them mentioned the experience in public.

Why didn’t Joseph explain in vivid detail why the name of Christ was being taken out of the name of the church? Why didn’t he ever publicly disclose what took place behind the veil in the Kirtland Temple?

Because God often reveals secrets to his prophets that they don’t reveal to the Saints. Doing so would prevent the fulfillment of prophecy and thwart God’s purposes.

Here is a prophecy uttered by Joseph Smith that demonstrates that he knew things about the future that he intentionally withheld from the Saints because he needed to just let things play out and let the chips fall were they may. It was a reminiscence shared in the 1892, in the #29th edition of the Juvenile Instructor by Elder Daniel D. McArthur:

“Boys, you think I am a Prophet, and want to hear all I have to say. ‘Now, said he’, “if I should tell you all I know that will come to pass within twelve years, perhaps there would not one of you believe it, and would apostatize from the Church. But I shall let you learn things as they happen, then most likely you will all stand in the Church.”

That prophecy was given in late 1836. Twelve years later takes us to 1848, the year the Nauvoo Temple burned to the ground without ever having been physically finished or spiritually acknowledged and accepted by the Lord. Those who have studied section 124 realize the significance of that. Clearly, the church had been rejected with it’s dead.

That is also the year that Brigham Young took it upon himself to create a “First Presidency” out of the quorum of the Twelve, that would pave the way for the emergence of church members sustaining presiding elders of the church, as “Prophets, Seers, and Revelators, that have not been endowed by God with those spiritual gifts.

Indeed, God sometimes reveals his secrets to his prophets without allowing them to share them with his Saints.

Why Revise the Revelations Contextually?

God certainly could have simply started all over again giving new revelations to Joseph Smith, once the gentiles rejected the fulness, instead of revising them to be contextually accurate. But instead, Joseph simply made the subtle and in some cases, blatant, seemingly contradictory changes that he did in the 1835 D&C, without explanation.

It appears that God wanted to provide a stumbling block for those who needed one. We obviously don’t know the mind of God and why he does things the way he does, or why the Gentiles even needed to stumble for a little season.

That is something He has done time and again with his people that harden their hearts. In this post we shall zero in on the passage of scripture found in the 4th chapter verse 2 of the Book of Commandments because it seems to be the foundational stumbling block for David Whitmer as presented in his exposé.

Transgression resulted in a “Little Season” of Preparation

Again, it needs to be remembered that by 1835, God was accommodating a Church that had stumbled and rejected the higher law of the Gospel. They were now required to prepare themselves, during a state of condemnation for a “little season” for the redemption of Zion when the light shines forth again during the final restoration that will take place. The little season was to be a time for believers to “prepare themselves” and to be “taught more perfectly” and “have more experience“:

“Therefore, in consequence of the transgressions of my people, it is expedient in me that mine elders should wait for a little season for the redemption of Zion—

10 That they themselves may be prepared, and that my people may be taught more perfectly, and have experience, and know more perfectly concerning their duty, and the things which I require at their hands…

13 Therefore it is expedient in me that mine elders should wait for a little season, for the redemption of Zion.”

The Lectures on Faith, prepared by God’s anointed Spokesman, Sidney Rigdon and endorsed by Joseph Smith, were included in the Doctrine and Covenants for the express purpose of preparing believers and teaching them more perfectly during the little season before the light would shine forth again.

David Whitmer Leaves the Church Embarrassed

After David Whitmer became disaffected from Joseph Smith and the Church, he began to reflect on everything he had experienced in the restored Church during the seven years he had been a member of it. He began looking for answers to find out why his personal experience with the restored church had been such a disaster and why the restored Church itself had, in his opinion, been such a disaster.

To say that Whitmer had a bad taste in his mouth when he left the church would be an understatement. He had been publicly humiliated and his reputation among friends, family and society in general was negatively affected by his involvement with the LDS restoration movement.

The Whitmer Family was one of the early families to join the church and it became one of the foundational families called to help establish Zion in Missouri. When David left church, others of the Whitmer family followed suit. David’s brother John, who had been called by revelation to serve as the church historian, refused to hand the church history that he had kept, over to Joseph and Sidney when they demanded it.

The Kirtland High Priests vs. the Zion High Priests

To better understand what David Whitmer was going through and suffering from when he left the church, one needs to understand a little bit of history regarding the two quorums of High Priests that were called back in 1831.

Shortly after the Melchizedek Priesthood and office of High Priest had been restored in June of 1831, during the special conference at the Morley Farm, the Lord had divided the newly ordained High Priests into two geographical groups.

One Group of High Priests was commissioned to migrate, with their connections and others, to the Land of Zion (Jackson County, Mo.) and establish the Center Stake of Zion there.

The other group of High Priests was commissioned to establish a Stake in Kirtland, Ohio which was cryptically referred to as “Jerusalem” in modern revelation (see Sections 109, 124 & 133).

President David Whitmer

David Whitmer was designated as the President of the Church in the Stake of Zion while Joseph Smith was designated as the Presiding High Priest and President of the church in the Stake of Kirtland. This was a great honor to David Whitmer. In a blessing, Whitmer was informed that he would be the one to replace Joseph Smith if Joseph needed to be replaced. Perhaps this is what motivated Whitmer to form his own church when he left.

Only One of Two Temples Completed

Both groups of High Priests were commanded to live the law of Zion and build a temple in their respective localities that had been identified by the Prophet Joseph Smith, as places of refuge in the last days. Joseph and the Saints in Kirtland would be faithful in building their temple in Kirtland. David Whitmer and the High Priests in Zion would never get the foundation laid for their temple.

Although things went relatively well for David Whitmer and the High Priests in Zion initially, eventually, the unbelieving Gentiles in that land became angry and threatened by the Saints in the land of Zion and persecution began to take place. This happened because some of the saints in Zion became verbal and boastful about their intentions of taking over all of the land of Zion despite God’s previous admonition to use prudence.

During this time of stress and persecution, David Whitmer and many of the High Priests in the land of Zion began to be critical of Joseph Smith. They were critical of the fact that Joseph Smith had not taken up residence with them in Zion where the persecution was taking place. They felt like he should be there with them facing the challenges they were facing.

At this same time, the Lord began giving revelations that were praising Joseph Smith and the High Priests in Kirtland, while lambasting David Whitmer and the High Priests in Zion.

And this condemnation resteth upon the children of Zion, even all”

In section Section 84, given in September of 1832 Joseph Smith and six elders were given a mind blowing revelation about priesthood in which the Lord prophesies of the completion of the Kirtland Temple and informs these seven brethren that the Lord will use them to eventually rend the kingdoms of the ungodly at the appointed time when the stone finally rolls forth.

In that revelation the Lord reveals the “oath and covenant of the priesthood” and declares that those seven individuals had entered into it. He declares that the Father had “renewed and confirmed it upon” those individuals. It was further revealed that the confirming of this covenant upon these individuals was done not only for their sakes, but “for the sake of the whole world“. Clearly, Joseph and his associates were involved in some kind of intercessory offering that would benefit the whole world.

In the revelation, the Lord chastises the Saints for having their minds darkened in times past, for treating lightly the things they had received, referring to the Book of Mormon and the “former commandments” that had been received in the revelations Joseph Smith brought forth, which are now documented in the D&C, with special emphasis on the “Articles of the Church” in section 20 and the “Law of the Gospel” in section 42 which contains the law of monogamy and the law of consecration.

In this revelation the Lord makes the following declaration

And this condemnation resteth upon the children of Zion, even all. And they shall remain under this condemnation until they repent and remember the new covenant, even the Book of Mormon and the former commandments which I have given them, not only to say, but to do according to that which I have written—

That they may bring forth fruit meet for their Father’s kingdom; otherwise there remaineth a scourge and judgment to be poured out upon the children of Zion.

For shall the children of the kingdom pollute my holy land? Verily, I say unto you, Nay.”


What do you suppose was going through the mind of David Whitmer and his fellow High Priests in the land of Zion when they read that revelation?

That rebuke towards the “children of Zion” was specifically targeting David Whitmer, his fellow High Priests and the church in the land of Zion! The Lord was declaring that they had not brought forth fruit and that a scourge and judgment was to be poured out upon them!

History verifies that such took place.

Imagine being told that you are polluting God’s holy land when you think you have been suffering for the cause of Christ!

This rebuke of the High Priests in Zion did not sit well with some of them. It was during this general time frame that angry letters were sent from some High Priests in Zion to Joseph Smith and his brethren in Kirtland, making accusations about Joseph Smith. I have covered those letters in another post.

A month after section 84 praised Joseph Smith and his brethren in Kirtland, while condemning David Whitmer and the High Priests in Zion, Section 88 was given. During this revelation, the Lord bestows the comforter upon them:

I now send upon you another Comforter, even upon you my friends, that it may abide in your hearts, even the Holy Spirit of promise; which other Comforter is the same that I promised unto my disciples, as is recorded in the testimony of John.

This Comforter is the promise which I give unto you of eternal life, even the glory of the celestial kingdom;

Which glory is that of the church of the Firstborn, even of God, the holiest of all, through Jesus Christ his Son—”

In this revelation the Lord informs these Kirtland High Priests that their names have been “recorded in the book of names of the sanctified“.

He then gives a warning that seems to be directed at the High Priests in Zion, who have been critical of the Lord’s anointed:

“And they who are not sanctified through the law which I have given unto you, even the law of Christ, must inherit another kingdom, even that of a terrestrial kingdom, or that of a telestial kingdom.”

The Lord then goes on to call the Kirtland High Priests the “first laborers in the last kingdom” and prepare themselves for a future mission in the 3rd watch:

That ye may be prepared in all things when I shall send you again to magnify the calling whereunto I have called you, and the mission with which I have commissioned you…

Therefore, tarry ye, and labor diligently, that you may be perfected in your ministry to go forth among the Gentiles for the last time, as many as the mouth of the Lord shall name, to bind up the law and seal up the testimony, and to prepare the saints for the hour of judgment which is to come”

Aside from the possible inference noted above, the High Priests in the land of Zion are not specifically mentioned in this revelation.

They are snubbed by the Lord.

It is difficult to even imagine what was going on in the hearts and minds of David Whitmer and the other High Priests during this time that they were being condemned, while the High Priests in Kirtland were being praised, receiving the other comforter and having their names enrolled in the book of the sanctified. Undoubtedly some began to humble themselves and repent while others hardened their hearts and chose to find fault with Joseph Smith and question the authenticity of the revelations he was bringing forth.

History testifies to the fact that David Whitmer began to harden his heart and find fault with Joseph Smith. He would ultimately reject virtually all of the revelations that Joseph brought forth, by claiming that he was only commissioned to translate the Book of Mormon and do no other work.

This brings us to the primary doctrinal and prophetic stumbling block that Whitmer stubbed his toe on.

Again, here is what David Whitmer said in his exposé about Joseph not being allowed to do any other work besides translating the Book of Commandments:

“I will prove that God called Brother Joseph to translate the Book of Mormon only, and that he was not called to organize and establish the church any more than the rest of us Elders. That God commanded him that he should pretend to no other gift but to translate the Book of Mormon, that God would grant him no other gift.”

Once again, notice the passage below in the 1833 Book of Commandments compared to the altered passage in the 1835 Doctrine and Covenants:

BofC 4:2 D&C 5:4
“…he [Joseph Smith] has no power over them except I grant it unto him; and he has a gift to translate the book [of Mormon], and I have commanded him that he shall pretend to no other gift, for I will grant him no other gift.” you have no power over them except I grant it unto you.5:4 And you have a gift to translate the plates; and this is the first gift that I bestowed upon you; and I have commanded that you should pretend to no other gift until my purpose is fulfilled in this; for I will grant unto you no other gift until it is finished.

At face value, it really does look like Joseph Smith is back-pedaling and trying to revise the passage right?

Whitmer interprets the passage in the BofC to mean that God did not command Joseph Smith to do any other work beside bringing forth the Book of Mormon… period.

He accepts the Book of Mormon as being the word of God and yet claims that Joseph is never allowed to do anything else besides translate the Book.

The Prophecy of Joseph the Seer Trumps the BofC and D&C

What Whitmer failed to realize and acknowledge in his expose’ is that both of the above passages were derivatives of a much older prophecy in the Book of Mormon. The doctrine and prophecy of “no other gift/work” actually originates from the prophecy about Joseph the Seer contained in the 2nd Chapter of 2Nephi. Notice the comparison of the three sets of passages below:

The Doctrine/Prophecy of “No Other Work”

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As you can see, the doctrine of “no other gift/work” originates in the Book of Mormon, not the Book of commandments.

I am going to suggest that the prophecy in the Book of Mormon trumps the Book of Commandments and provides the proper context to it. It substantiates the correctness of both passages, as contained in the Book of Commandments and Doctrine and Covenant, but clearly favors the broader context provided in the passage found in the D&C because the associated “Joseph the Seer” prophecy in 2nd Nephi chapter 3, clearly itemizes all of the callings and gifts that Joseph Smith would be endowed with!

It smashes David Whitmers stumbling stone to pieces.

More on that later.

There are of course, many other serious problems with Whitmers logic in his expose, when viewed against the backdrop of the prophecies in the Book of Mormon.

The first is that if Whitmer is correct about Joseph Smith being commanded to only translate the Book of Mormon, then Joseph was not allowed to bring forth “thus sayeth the Lord” revelations outside of his commission to publish the Book of Commandments.

This would mean that chapter 4 of the BofC and the whole Book of commandments represents false, un-commissioned revelations from the Lord and have no validity and credibility because Joseph Smith was never commissioned to act as a prophet and receive those revelations. That means that the very passage Whitmer uses to justify his rejection of any additional gifts or work that Joseph might do besides the translation of the Book of Mormon, is not a credible passage!

Pretty interesting attempt at circular logic don’t you think?

A second, much greater problem emerges in the fact that the Book of Mormon itself, which Whitmer hails as the word of God, testifies multiple times of the fact that Joseph’s work was to involve significantly more than bringing forth the Book of Mormon! Indeed, the Book of Mormon also addresses the topic of the Lord commanding Joseph Smith to do “none other work, save the work I shall command him”.

The truth is that the Book of Mormon provides numerous prophecies that prove that Joseph’s work transcended the translation of the Book of Mormon.

At the end of this post we will make brief mention of other prophecies in the Book of Mormon, beside the “Joseph the Seer” prophecy, that invalidate Whitmers stumbling stone. But as compelling as those passages are, the real death-nail for proving Whitmers conclusions invalid is found in the prophecy of Joseph the Seer found in 2nd Nephi 3.

“he shall do none other work, save the work which I shall command him”

Notice the similar wording used in the prophecy of Joseph:

“And unto him will I give commandment that he shall do a work for the fruit of thy loins, his brethren, which shall be of great worth unto them, even to the bringing of them to the knowledge of the covenants which I have made with thy fathers.

8 And I will give unto him a commandment that he shall do none other work, save the work which I shall command him

Critics that take David Whitmers accusations seriously always show the passages in the BofC and the D&C side by side to create alarm and place doubt in the minds of people.

A complete comparison of these two chapters can be made here)

The question that arises is whether the BofC passage is categorically limiting Joseph’s gift of translation of the book of Mormon until that project is complete, or if God is saying that there will be no other work for Joseph to be involved in after the Book has been translated.

That passage in the Book of Commandments was interpreted by a very angry and humiliated David Whitmer, to mean that Joseph had no right to do any other work than the translation of the Book of Mormon, even after the work of translation by the gift and power of God was completed.

Interestingly, the very revelation from the BofC that David uses to discredit the establishment of a church boldly declared that God intents to establish his church if the people of that generation will harden not their hearts:

“..if the people of this generation harden not their hearts, I will work a reformation among them, and I will put down all lyings, and deceivings, and priestcrafts, and envyings, and strifes, and idolatries, and sorceries, and all manner of iniquities, and I will establish my church, like unto the church which was taught by my disciples in the days of old…”

Now let’s look at a comparison of the two texts in question in in light of the Book of Mormon passage from which they both originate. Keep in mind that the Book of Mormon prophecy was hundreds of years older than the other two:

no other

8   And I will give unto him a commandment that he shall do none other work, save the work which I shall command him”

13   And out of weakness he shall be made strong, in that day when my work shall commence among all my people, unto the restoring thee, O house of Israel, saith the Lord.

“…he [Joseph Smith] has no power over them except I grant it unto him; and he has a gift to translate the book [of Mormon], and I have commanded him that he shall pretend to no other gift, for I will grant him no other gift.”you have no power over them except I grant it unto you.5:4 And you have a gift to translate the plates; and this is the first gift that I bestowed upon you; and I have commanded that you should pretend to no other gift until my purpose is fulfilled in this; for I will grant unto you no other gift until it is finished.

The original prophecy actually confirms the clarifications that Joseph Smith made in the D&C. Yes, it is true that Joseph the Seer is to do no other work, during the work of translating the Book of Mormon, but after that, he has much more work to do.

Notice verse 13 in 2nd Nephi 3

“..out of weakness he shall be made strong in that day when my work shall commence..”

Compare it to this passage from Section one of the D&C which is a commentary about the day when the work commences:

“Behold, I am God and have spoken it; these commandments are of me, and were given unto my servants in their weakness, after the manner of their language, that they might come to understanding

And inasmuch as they erred it might be made known;

And inasmuch as they sought wisdom they might be instructed;

And inasmuch as they sinned they might be chastened, that they might repent;

And inasmuch as they were humble they might be made strong..”

The exciting thing about the prophecy about Joseph the Seer in 2 Nephi 2 is that it actually lists all of the things that God calls him to do after translating the Book of Mormon. This chapter completely crushes David Whitmer stumbling block into little pieces!

To understand what the work has to do with according to the original prophecy and use of the phrase “none other work“, we need to review the major aspects of the prophecy of Joseph in the Book of Mormon.

This will enable us to see what the actual work is that the Lord commands Joseph the Seer to do. We will now dissect the prophecy of Joseph the Seer in the Book of Mormon to see how it defines “none other work” and what the “other work” actually entails. We shall see that the “other work” that the Lord commands Joseph the Seer to do is significantly more than translating the Book of Mormon. Following that we will create a bullet point listing of what the work is composed of:

Wherefore, Joseph truly saw our day. And he obtained a promise of the Lord, that out of the fruit of his loins the Lord God would raise up a righteous branch unto the house of Israel; not the Messiah, but a branch which was to be broken off, nevertheless, to be remembered in the covenants of the Lord that the Messiah should be made manifest unto them in the latter days, in the spirit of power, unto the bringing of them out of darkness unto light—yea, out of hidden darkness and out of captivity unto freedom.

6 For Joseph truly testified, saying: A seer shall the Lord my God raise up, who shall be a choice seer unto the fruit of my loins.

7 Yea, Joseph truly said: Thus saith the Lord unto me: A choice seer will I raise up out of the fruit of thy loins; and he shall be esteemed highly among the fruit of thy loins. And unto him will I give commandment that he shall do a work for the fruit of thy loins, his brethren, which shall be of great worth unto them, even to the bringing of them to the knowledge of the covenants which I have made with thy fathers.

8 And I will give unto him a commandment that he shall do none other work, save the work which I shall command him. And I will make him great in mine eyes; for he shall do my work.

9 And he shall be great like unto Moses,

10 And Moses will I raise up, to deliver thy people out of the land of Egypt.

11 But a seer will I raise up out of the fruit of thy loins; and unto him will I give power to bring forth my word unto the seed of thy loins—and not to the bringing forth my word only, saith the Lord, but to the convincing them of my word, which shall have already gone forth among them.

12 Wherefore, the fruit of thy loins shall write; and the fruit of the loins of Judah shall write; and that which shall be written by the fruit of thy loins, and also that which shall be written by the fruit of the loins of Judah, shall grow together, unto the confounding of false doctrines and laying down of contentions, and establishing peace among the fruit of thy loins, and bringing them to the knowledge of their fathers in the latter days, and also to the knowledge of my covenants, saith the Lord.

13 And out of weakness he shall be made strong, in that day when my work shall commence among all my people, unto the restoring thee, O house of Israel, saith the Lord.

14 And thus prophesied Joseph, saying: Behold, that seer will the Lord bless; and they that seek to destroy him shall be confounded; for this promise, which I have obtained of the Lord, of the fruit of my loins, shall be fulfilled. Behold, I am sure of the fulfilling of this promise;

15 And his name shall be called after me; and it shall be after the name of his father. And he shall be like unto me; for the thing, which the Lord shall bring forth by his hand, by the power of the Lord shall bring my people unto salvation.

18 And the Lord said unto me also: I will raise up unto the fruit of thy loins; and I will make for him a spokesman. And I, behold, I will give unto him that he shall write the writing of the fruit of thy loins, unto the fruit of thy loins; and the spokesman of thy loins shall declare it.

20 And they [the seer and the spokesman] shall cry from the dust; yea, even repentance unto their brethren, even after many generations have gone by them. And it shall come to pass that their cry shall go, even according to the simpleness of their words.

24 And there shall rise up one mighty among them, who shall do much good, both in word and in deed, being an instrument in the hands of God, with exceeding faith, to work mighty wonders, and do that thing which is great in the sight of God, unto the bringing to pass much restoration unto the house of Israel, and unto the seed of thy brethren.

A Bullet Point Listing of Joseph’s Prophetic Role

As you can see, the work that the Lord commands Joseph the Seer to do, according to the Book of Mormon, which David Whitmer testifies is true, is significantly more than simply translating the Book of Mormon. According to the prophecy, Joseph the Seer is given many spiritual gives and assignments. He is commanded to:


  • Literally manifest the Messiah
  • Produce the Spirit of Power
  • Be esteemed highly by the branch of Joseph
  • Be great like Moses
  • Bring the believing Gentiles out of darkness unto light
  • Convince the “fruit of the lions of Joseph” that the Bible is true
  • Be given a spokesman that will declare the writing that is brought forth
  • Return from the dead after many generations with his spokesman to declare repentance
  • Confound false doctrines, lay down contentions, and establish peace
  • Bring the branch of Joseph unto the knowledge of the covenants made to the fathers
  • Perform “mighty wonders”
  • Bring about “much restoration”
  • Bring the believing Gentiles out of captivity unto freedom
  • Bring “my people” to salvation

The above listing is truly mind-boggling. Most card carrying members of the church would agree that the list includes things Joseph Smith did during his past ministry.Some authors are now trying to claim that the above prophecy did not even have to do with Joseph Smith, they have to resort to that in order to justify some of their heretical beliefs about the church.

Frankly, I believe that even though many things Joseph did in the past were preliminary to, and a shadow fulfillment of, the above list, the literal fulfillment of virtually all of those things is yet future, during the 3rd watch.

The prophecy informs us that the Messiah should be made manifest unto them in the latter days, in the spirit of power. I would submit that bringing forth the Book of Mormon does not constitute manifesting the Messiah in the spirit of power.

Of course there were other events that took place as well. Was the Messiah manifest in power through the instrumentality of Joseph Smith AFTER the Book of Mormon was brought forth?

One could argue that having three people testify of seeing the Father and the Son when the highest priesthood was revealed at the Morley Farm and the other testimonies given of the savior in the school of the prophets, the vision known as section 76, and the visitation behind the veil in the Kirtland Temple (Section 110), fulfilled the prophecy that the messiah would be manifest in power.

I would submit, however, that the prophecy will more fully be completed during the Marvelous Work and a Wonder, when Joseph and his associates return. At that time, the Messiah will be manifest in POWER.

What about being esteemed highly by the fruit of Joseph’s loin’s?

Prior to the legal establishment of the restored church, Joseph did not really reach a significant level of esteem in the eyes of believing Gentiles. I would suggest that he was not “..esteemed highly among the fruit of thy loins..” until after he continued the work of restoration. It was not until the Kirtland era and the restoration of the church, the amazing missionary work that he oversaw and the incredible revelations and knowledge that he brought forth that he began to be esteemed highly in the eyes of the people. When thousands of people come out to listen to you speak and sustain you as a prophet, seer and revelator, you are highly esteemed.

But even the high esteem that Joseph had in the 2nd watch pales compared to what will take place when he returns. I would submit that Joseph never was great like Moses nor did he deliver Israel out of bondage during the 2nd watch. But he did bring forth a prophecy detailing how he would return in the future to bring latter day Israel out of bondage like Moses did anciently. Additionally, he did not ultimately bring the people out of darkness into light in the ultimate sense. That will happen in the future. Nevertheless all glory be to God.

The truth is that most of the prophecies mentioned in the “Joseph the Seer” prophecy are about the future when the final restoration takes place  during the 3rd watch. The Gentiles have not yet been convinced that the Bible is true. Joseph did not confound false doctrines, lay down contentions, or establish peace.

That is all future.

Although there were some amazing healings that took place and other metaphysical events, such as people levitating off of their beds and a 200 lb man being thrust across the room by an evil spirit, I would contend that the “mighty wonders” that Joseph the Seer is to perform is largely futuristic when he returns with fulness of priesthood that has been manifest through prophets like Enoch, Elijah and Melchizedek.

While Joseph the Seer did bring forth “much restoration” during the second watch, he will need to once again restore most of what was brought forth since the kingdom of God was caught up to heaven as quickly as it was brought forth.

Interestingly, one needs to have the knowledge that Joseph Smith is going to return from the dead to fulfill the work that the Lord has called him to in order to understand and make sense of the Joseph the seer prophecy. Once a person has this understanding, vague prophetic utterances that were previously hard to understand begin to come to light.

In closing, here are a few more passages from the Book of Mormon that seem to validate the fact that Joseph had a much greater work to do besides translating the Book of Mormon:

Mormon 8

Mormon 8 establishes the fact that the Gentiles of the restoration polluted the “holy Church of God”, using the same phrase “Church of God” that was introduced into the D&C shortly after the fulness was restored at the Morley Farm. This provides verfication that Joseph did restore the Church of God, before the Gentiles polluted it. That was a work, requiring the gift of prophecy and the restoration of priesthood.

 3rd Nephi 16

In 3rd Nephi 16 the Lord prophesies about the Gentiles rejecting the fulness followed by the gospel being taken to the House of Israel. The History of the Church verifies that Joseph fulfilled that prophecy by declaring that “something new must be done for the salvation of the church” and establishing foreign missions. That would show that Joseph fulfilled a very important work of restoring the House of Israel to the knowledge of the gospel after the translation of the Book of Mormon

 1 Nephi 13

1 Nephi 13 states that the Gentiles that attempt to bring forth Zion, despite their failure, will be blessed for their effort. History demonstrates that the Saint attempted and failed at Zion. The 3rd chapter of Nephi proves that Christ needed to bestow priesthood before Zion could be redeemed. Hence, if the Gentiles, under the direction of Joseph Smith were blessed in their attempt at establishing Zion, clearly they had priesthood restored typological to how it was restored when Christ appeared to the Nephites, showing that Joseph was commissioned to establish Zion and restored the necessary priesthood to do so.

Those sections in the Book of Mormon are just a few of the other testimonies in the Book of Mormon that demonstrate that David Whitmer was wrong about Joseph not having other spiritual gifts and works to perform, that set him apart from Cowdery, Whitmer and the other elders, as a prophet, seer, and revelator.

I believe we have reviewed scriptural documentation that crushes the stumbling block that David Whitmer stubbed his toe on and it saddens me to see people still rejecting the fulness because of Whitmers “Address to all believer in Christ”.

As you can see, David Whitmer was a textbook fulfillment of the Saviors prophecy in 3rd Nephi

And thus commandeth the Father that I should say unto you: At that day when the Gentiles shall sin against my gospel, and shall reject the fulness of my gospel, and shall be lifted up in the pride of their hearts above all nations..

Nevertheless, the prophecy states that after the gospel is taken from the Gentiles to the House of Israel some of the Gentiles will repent.. The foreign missions set up by Joseph Smith began taking the gospel to the House of Israel. This began happening during the Nauvoo era, and has been happening for four generations.  In the 3rd watch, the light will shine forth and the last restoration will begin. At that time, some of the Gentiles will repent:

But if the Gentiles will repent and return unto me, saith the Father, behold they shall be numbered among my people, O house of Israel.”

I believe there is a significant amount of evidence to show that David Whitmer has not yet finished his assignment as a witness to the Book of Mormon. I believe David Whitmer will yet repent, accept the fulness of the gospel and complete his calling as a witness of the Book of Mormon.

New Church Historical Essays on Polygamy Reviewed on CNN

November 19, 2014

A friend recently sent me this story from CNN. It appears that the new church essays on polygamy are also of interest to people outside of Mormonism. The article and video in the link provide an interesting view of the conversation is taking place in the mainstream media among outsiders of the religion. Mormonism truly provides a fascinating circus of events to entertain people with.

The article states that the church covered up polygamy and other issues until the Internet made it impossible to keep it covered up. This falls under the topic of the “Google Apostasy” that I have blogged about, that resulted in the LDS church using paid employees to shill my blog.

Regarding these new essays on polygamy, did you see the reaction that Hitler had when he found about about Joseph’s involvement in polygamy?



Miscellaneous Musings #12 Are the Nauvoo Discourses True?

November 12, 2014

are you in the wrong place

[WARNING: This blog documents the truthfulness of the restored gospel and the validity of the LDS restoration movement and the ministry of the prophet Joseph Smith. HOWEVER, it also contains very controversial material about LDS Church doctrine and history and it is often critical of Modern Mormonism and the actions and decisions of the leaders thereof.

This particular series of “Miscellaneous Musings” addresses current events and the random thoughts and observations of the author.

At times the author uses a tone of irreverence, cynicism and sarcasm as therapy to help himself and some of his readers cope with the absurd, alternate reality that we live in.

Although many of the Latter day Jews (Mormons)  are convinced that we have the fulness of the Gospel on the earth, I am of the belief that we actually live in the prophesied time of “hidden darkness” when God’s apostate people think they are righteous but they are not..

You should be at least 18 to view this site or have parental permission and a note from your Bishop.

Comments, complaints, accusations and threats can be directed to OneWhoIsWatching [at] gmail dot com. ]

Aaron Weiss Speaks Very Articulately

Deputy Slaps Citizen for Not Allowing Car Search


“Saratoga County Deputy Shawn Glans had no idea he was being recorded as he tried to intimidate a man into allowing him to search his car, which is why he slapped him on the back of his head while yanking the keys out of his hand, tossing them to another deputy who searched the man’s car and found nothing illegal.

But he does know now after Adam Roberts uploaded the video to Facebook where it began going viral Friday.

Deputy Shawn Glans has been fired!

Update on the deputy that slapped the citizen.

Ebola Infographic

Does Jacob 2 Teach that God Sometimes Commands Polygamy?

There is a fellow that has tried to convince me that Jacob 2:30 was really not saying what most people think it is saying. I have stated repeatedly that section 132 is a revelation from hell and that I do not believe in the spiritual wife doctrine. I have written numerous articles to that effect:

I told this fellow that nobody would be happier than me if he was correct about Jacob 2:30 being misinterpreted, however, the wresting of the scriptures that he offered me to prove his point was not compelling to me. I felt that I needed to accept the interpretation at face value until someone could show me a compelling reason to assume a different interpretation.

I noticed the other day that someone came to his website and provided a fascinating explanation of how the meaning of the passage may have been corrupted by the misapplication of punctuation.

I do find that explanation with the differing punctuation to be more persuasive, particularly in light of the condemning text that precedes and follows the declaration. :)

Notice the reverse meaning when the punctuation is used differently:

“For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people otherwise; they shall hearken unto these things.” (referring to the things mentioned before and after the verse, condemning the practice of polygamy)

I am still not totally convinced. It seems to me that the passage is probably referring to the Levirate Law.

Just something to ponder..

Obama and the Democrats got a Thrashing.. no avail

It was interesting to watch the interview with Obama after the huge thrashing that his policies and the democrats got. He spun the message that he got from voters to mean that people simply want him and congress to “get something done”.

That, of course, was not the message being sent from voters. The messages was, “quit doing what you are doing! You are destroying this nation!”

Obama then proceeded to tell reporters that he was not going to compromise on anything. Either Congress would pass bills that he likes and that promoted his agenda, or he would continue to use Executive Orders to promote his agenda.

I used to get serious heartburn watching him dismantle this nation, however, I keep reminding myself that God has put this latter day Pharaoh in power as a chastisement to this Godless nation. Obama is just one of many judgments that God has sent against the “hypocritical nation”.

Congressman Calls on Americans to
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Quo Warranto

From time to time patriot groups attempt to reverse the damage being done by the secret combination that is destroying the freedom of all nations.

The Line in the Sand – Breaking News November 10, 2014 Unified Common Law Grand Jury in every State files writ of quo warranto in every Federal District Court, United States Supreme Court and served upon every Federal Judge and all 9 US Supreme Court Justices. Information in the nature of a quo warranto.

Of course we know from prophecy that it will take an intervention from God and His servants to break the bonds that have us in bondage. Nevertheless, for those of you who are just waking up to a sense of our awful situation, this video provides a significant summary of many of the issues at hand.

 The PDF is found here

The   Secret History of the Mormon Church

Over the years, I have been uncovering what I refer to as the secret history of Mormonism. The true history of the LDS Restoration has been hidden and sanitized by well meaning people.  I have shared my findings regarding the history of the restored church, in light of prophecy.

I have taught that after the Gentile church rejected the fulness of the gospel (3rd Nephi 16:10, D&C 124:28) which was on the earth from June of 1831 to November of 1834, by taking lightly the Book of Mormon and the commandments given through Joseph Smith, including the law of consecration, an intercessory offering needed to be made.

The Lords anointed servants of the restoration needed to make this intercessory offering to prevent the Latter day Saints from being swept off of the face of the earth.

Following this 3 1/2 year period and the rejection of the fulness, Joseph and Oliver entered into a “covenant of tithing” for the “continuance of blessings“. This enabled the Saints to complete the Kirtland Temple so that the secret vision and transferring of dispensational keys could take pace behind the veil in the holy of holies.

At that point, the fulness of the Gospel of GRACE, was taken from the Gentiles and replaced with the preparatory gospel of MERCY. The Gentiles then took this preparatory Gospel, which contained the KNOWLEDGE of the fulness of the Gospel to the House of Israel.

Many Mormons are JEWS

In Christ’s prophecy about this event, he said that after the Gentiles sinned against the fulness of the gospel, (in 1834) the gospel would be taken to “His People” the “House of Israel” (This began in about 1839 when Joseph Smith had the Twelve Apostles establish foreign missions ) :

10 And thus commandeth the Father that I should say unto you: At that day when the Gentiles shall sin against my gospel, and shall reject the fulness of my gospel, and shall be lifted up in the pride of their hearts above all nations, and above all the people of the whole earth..

..I remember my covenant which I have made unto my people, O house of Israel, and I will bring my gospel unto them.

12 And I will show unto thee, O house of Israel, that the Gentiles shall not have power over you; but I will remember my covenant unto you, O house of Israel, and ye shall come unto the knowledge of the fulness of my gospel.

Throughout the scriptures when referring to “his people” “Israel”, the Lord is usually referring to the “Jews”. Sometimes the word Jews is used synonymously with the term “house of Israel”, while, at other times, it is referring primarily to the “Tribe of Judah” or the “kingdom of Judah”.

It is therefore not surprising that embedded in modern revelation, we are told that the foreign missions that Joseph set up following the secret ushering in of the “dispensation of the Gospel of Abraham”, would be gathering in the Jews:

“That through your administration they may receive the word, and through their administration the word may go forth unto the ends of the earth, unto the Gentiles first, and then, behold, and lo, they shall turn unto the Jews.” (Section 90)

“Therefore, renounce war and proclaim peace, and seek diligently to turn the hearts of the children to their fathers, and the hearts of the fathers to the children;

And again, the hearts of the Jews unto the prophets, and the prophets unto the Jews; lest I come and smite the whole earth with a curse, and all flesh be consumed before me.” (Section 98)

The Twelve being sent out, holding the keys, to open the door by the proclamation of the gospel of Jesus Christ, and first unto the Gentiles and then unto the Jews.” (section 107)

All three of the above passages, in conjunction with the prophecy of Christ in 3rd Nephi, inform us that directly after the gospel goes to the Gentiles, it went to the House of Israel, otherwise referred to as the Jews. Clearly, the Twelve Apostles were commissioned to take the gospel to the Jews. Other sections of scripture that show forth the commission to the Twelve Apostles in taking the gospel to both the nations of the earth, to the Gentiles and then the Jews, are Sections 112 and 118.

Those converts that began flowing into the church from Great Britain during the Nauvoo era, were of the House of Israel or Jews, in contradistinction to the Gentiles members of the church from the Kirtland era.

Although some may assume that the preaching of the Gospel to the Jews has not yet begun and is a future, 3rd watch event, the following passage of scripture given during the dedication of the Kirtland Temple proves that from the very hour in which the Temple was dedicated, the ancient city of “Jerusalem”  was redeemed, the “yoke of bondage” began to be broken off of the ancient “house of David” and the literal “children of Judah” began to return to the land of America which is the land of the Abrahamic Covenant!

We therefore ask thee to have mercy upon the children of Jacob, that Jerusalem, from this hour, may begin to be redeemed; And the yoke of bondage may begin to be broken off from the house of David; And the children of Judah may begin to return to the lands which thou didst give to Abraham, their father.” (Section 109:62-64)

A contextual reading of modern revelation and study of LDS church history, in conjunction with the prophecies contained in the Old Testament, verify that the early Gentile Saints from the Kirtland era, from pilgrim heritage, descended from the ancient “Kingdom of Israel”  that had mingled among the nations of the Gentiles during Old Testament times.

Conversely, the converts flowing in from Great Britain during the Nauvoo era, included the “Children of Judah” who were descendents of the ancient “Kingdom of Judah”, many of which had gathered back to the Old World Jerusalem prior to the Savior’s earthly birth. After rejecting Christ, the kingdom of the Jews was destroyed and dispersed among the nations until they were to be gathered again in the last days and called Latter day “Saints”.

The terms “House of Israel” and “Jews” are often used interchangeably in the scriptures because there is a broad definition of the word Jew. However, within this general group of Jewish LDS converts, was a remnant from the literal “house of Judah“. IMO, the Fielding family was a text book example of descendents of the tribe and kingdom of Judah. When Hyrum Smith’s posterity intermingled with remnants of the house of Judah and were given positions of presidency among the Saints, it enabled the latter day Saints to re-establish the Kingdom of Judah in the latter days!

Despite how corrupt and apostate the modern Latter day Saint Church is, it is still composed of the “Jews” who are the Lord’s people. Traditionally, the Jews have been a rebellious people so it is not surprising that the modern Mormon church is totally apostate and completely out of the way. Nevertheless, they have the standard works which contain the knowledge of the fulness of the Gospel which is being taken to the nations of the earth.

We know that in the 3ed watch, when the last RESTORATION takes place,  the two witnesses that will come with a voice of warning will come to the Latter day Saints that represent the “Jewish nation”  and “Kingdom of the Jews”:

They are two prophets that are to be raised up to the Jewish nation in the last days, at the time of the restoration, and to prophesy to the Jews after they are gathered..” (D&C 77:15)

Will the latter day Jews listen to the message of the two witnesses and repent when the last restoration begins?

Despite the fact that Brigham Young and the twelve wrested the leadership of the church away from the rightful person who had come in at the gate (See D&C 43:7) and been anointed as a prophet seer and revelator, they still had the authority, according to the law of common consent, to lead the apostate church that did not want to be led by a true prophet, seer or revelator.. it appears, from sections107, 112, and 118, that although Brigham and his fellows were not prophets and seers, they held the keys of taking the scriptures containing the fulness of the gospel, to the Jews, which they did!

President Monson, truly sits in the latter day seat of Moses over the kingdom of the Jews. There is reason to believe that the latter day Saint JEWS are as corrupt and blinded as their ancestors were at the time that Christ came into the world and was rejected by His people the Jews.

From about April 4th, 1836, the period of time that the dispensation of the gospel of Abraham was secretly ushered in, things went downhill as the church fell into yet another time of apostasy. Instead of the law of consecration, the saints tried to create a Babylonian banking entity that ended in disaster. As they fled from Kirtland to Far West, the Saints began warring against the enemies of the church and a secret society called the Danites was established by members of the church who felt that they were now justified in plundering the unbelieving Gentiles and taking the spoils of war.

The next episode brings us to Nauvoo where the Saints continue practicing abominations that led to the martyrdom.

Nevertheless, during this time of apostasy, the message of the gospel was taken by the apostate apostles to the nations of the earth.

The Book of Mormon informs us that because of the abominations of the believing Gentiles, and because they would rejected the words of the prophets, the eyes of the seers would be covered. It informs us that AFTER the eyes of the prophets and seers are covered because of the iniquity of latter day Israel, the sealed book containing the revelation from God from the beginning to the end would come forth in the 3rd watch:

4 For behold, all ye that doeth iniquity, stay yourselves and wonder, for ye shall cry out, and cry; yea, ye shall be drunken but not with wine, ye shall stagger but not with strong drink.

5 For behold, the Lord hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep. For behold, ye have closed your eyes, and ye have rejected the prophets; and your rulers, and the seers hath he covered because of your iniquity.

6 And it shall come to pass [after the covering of the eyes of the prophets and seers] that the Lord God shall bring forth unto you the words of a book, and they shall be the words of them which have slumbered.

7 And behold the book shall be sealed; and in the book shall be a revelation from God, from the beginning of the world to the ending thereof.

History verifies that the eyes of the Lord’s prophets and seers, Joseph, Oliver, Hyrum, and Sidney were covered and they erred in doctrine.

Joseph Smith’s eyes were covered by the Lord as a result of his intercessory atonement offering, in which he was used by the Lord to deliver His people over to Satan for a little season. (See section 105)

Because the eyes of the prophets and seers were covered, it is obvious that they taught some false doctrines. This brings up an interesting question regarding the Nauvoo discourses that Joseph Smith gave.

Years ago when I did my series on Sidney Rigdon, I realized that it was his responsibility to prove the revelations brought forth through Joseph Smith, according to the Bible. That is why most of the significant doctrinal discourses during the early days of the church were given by Rigdon. He was one of the greatest doctrinal scholars and preachers of the day.

It seemed odd to me that Joseph began doing the discoursing during the Nauvoo era instead of Rigdon and it got me wondering about the credibility of the doctrinal content of those discourses, in light of the Lord covering Joseph’s eyes.

Are the Nauvoo Discourses True?

I recently got the following email from someone:


In your opinion, how useful and/or valid are Joseph’s sermons and teachings in the Nauvoo years as compiled in Andrew Ehat’s “Words of Joseph Smith” considering the state that he was in by that time?

I know that you/we accept section 124 as valid and being a true revelation, indeed. However, haven’t you concluded that much of the doctrine brought forth in the period from 1839 until his death is “questionable”?

Just wondering how you view the talks compiled in Ehat’s compilation?



This was my response to the above email:

“I have really labored over this question. Early in my quest for truth I obtained a document that contained all of the Nauvoo discourses, very similar to the content contained in Ehats book. At that time I assumed everything Joseph had taught during the Nauvoo era was the gospel truth.

One of the things that modern Mormonism indoctrinates us into thinking is the black and white belief that a person is either a prophet or they are not. If they are a prophet, everything they say is true. If they are not a prophet, nothing they say can be relied upon.

I think this belief creates a stumbling block at two different levels.

The first level of confusion is in the belief that a prophet of the church is infallible in what they teach and that they dont’ have personal opinions that can be wrong (nor is it possible that their eyes have temporarily been covered by the Lord, etc.)

The second level of confusion comes with the belief that we must rely on the prophet of the church to receive revelation for us and interpret the scriptures for us. Yes, at first we may need guidance, but the whole goal of the saving ordinances and the spiritual rebirth is to become revelatory vessels ourselves.

The purpose of receiving the spiritual rebirth and taking the Holy Ghost as our personal guide is to become prophets and revelators for ourselves.

The great key that was revealed to Peter and later expounded by Joseph Smith is that the “rock of personal revelation” is the foundation upon which the true church is built and upon which the gates of hell cannot prevail:

“And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. (PERSONAL REVELATION)  And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock (THE ROCK OF PERSONAL REVELATION)  I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”

Notice how the modern paraphrasing of the concept also establishes personal revelation as the rock:

“Yea, repent and be baptized, every one of you, for a remission of your sins; yea, be baptized even by water, and then cometh the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost. (PERSONAL REVELATION)

 Behold, verily, verily, I say unto you, this is my gospel; and remember that they shall have faith in me or they can in nowise be saved;

And upon this rock I will build my church; yea, upon this rock ye are built, and if ye continue, the gates of hell shall not prevail against you.”

Joseph reiterated the truth that the rock spoken of is the rock of revelation:

“The plea of many in this day is, that we have no right to receive revelations; but if we do not get revelations, we do not have the oracles [prophets] of God; and if they have not the oracles of God, they are not the people of God. . . . Jesus in His teachings says, ‘Upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.’ What rock? Revelation.”

Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, sel. Joseph Fielding Smith (1976), 272, 274.

Joseph also taught that “salvation cannot come without revelation; it is in vain for anyone to minister without it. No man is a minister of Jesus Christ without being a Prophet”.

One of the most liberating and revelatory things I have come to realize is that EVERY SERMON ever given by ANYONE must be measured against the four standard works and PERSONAL REVELATION.

There is no mortal man that is always right and probably no mortal man that is always wrong. This puts the burden on each Saint to discern truth for themselves.

Paul was one of the most revelatory apostles in the New Testament and yet we find the Lord correcting some of his statements in modern revelation.

I make no bones about my disdain for some of the things Brigham Young did and taught, and yet, I sometimes come across things he ways that are profoundly true and revelatory. In fact one of my favorite Brigham Young teachings states that faithfully following the prophet will not save a person if they never learn to become a prophet themselves.

Likewise, I love and admire Joseph Smith, and yet, I can find teachings of his, such as the spiritual wife doctrine and the teachings found in the King Follett sermon that clearly contradict the word of God in the revelations that Joseph Smith himself brought forth, not to mention the Old and New Testaments.

When I finally discovered and began to understand the prophecies contained in 2 Sam 7, Lev 16, and other related passages detailing the true mission of Joseph Smith and the fact that he would eventually have his eyes covered, I began to take everything out of my wheelbarrow of beliefs and begin re-evaluating everything before putting them back into the wheelbarrow.

I began to place the scriptures and the Holy Ghost as the lens through which I studied and verified the gospel instead of categorically accepting everything that Joseph Smith supposedly taught and using his teachings as the lens through which I judged everything else, including the scriptures.

Realizing that Joseph had to have his eyes covered because of the transgressions of Latter day Israel, provided the perfect explanation as to why many of Joseph’s Nauvoo teachings and actions were not congruent with the early Kirtland teachings and revelations that he brought forth.

After revisiting the Nauvoo discourses and dissecting them, I have come to the conclusion for myself that the majority of what he publicly taught during that time was true, although certain things like the King Follett discourse has falsehood in them.

I absolutely love what the Lord says about the apocrypha because I believe it contains the answer to your question about how we should approach the Nauvoo sermons and ALL of the sermons given by ANYONE:

 Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you concerning the Apocrypha—There are many things contained therein that are true, and it is mostly translated correctly;

 There are many things contained therein that are not true, which are interpolations by the hands of men.

 Verily, I say unto you, that it is not needful that the Apocrypha should be translated.

 Therefore, whoso readeth it, let him understand, for the Spirit manifesteth truth;

 And whoso is enlightened by the Spirit shall obtain benefit therefrom;

 And whoso receiveth not by the Spirit, cannot be benefited. Therefore it is not needful that it should be translated. Amen.

Again, we are directed by the Lord to call upon personal revelation and learning by the spirit, in discerning which parts of the apocrypha are true and which are the interpolations of men.

I believe the same is true when reading the Nauvoo discourses and all other discourses. We must learn to identify and discern truth by the spirit.”

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How Zion will be Redeemed- Part 8

November 4, 2014

“..the kingdoms of the world shall prevail against them”


In part 7 of this series, we noted that on February 24th 1834, (Section 103) the Lord decreed that from that hour, either the kingdoms of the world would prevail against the saints or the saints would prevail against the kingdoms of the world.


But verily I say unto you, that I have decreed a decree which my people shall realize, inasmuch as they hearken from this very hour unto the counsel which I, the Lord their God, shall give unto them. Behold they shall, for I have decreed it, begin to prevail against mine enemies from this very hour.

And by hearkening to observe all the words which I, the Lord their God, shall speak unto them, they shall never cease to prevail until the kingdoms of the world are subdued under my feet, and the earth is given unto the saints, to possess it forever and ever.

But inasmuch as they keep not my commandments, and hearken not to observe all my words, the kingdoms of the world shall prevail against them.”(D&C 103:5-8)


In the above passages the Lord was clearly referencing the prophecies in the Book of Daniel and the Book of Revelation about the kingdom of God coming forth upon the earth. It is from that passage and many others in modern revelation, that the Latter day Saints assume that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints represents the kingdom of God on the earth.


From a practical point of view, all we need to do 180 years later is look around us at the state of the church and the state of the world to know who prevailed against who.


The scriptures also provide the answer as well. The Book of Daniel notes that The “horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them”. Clearly, the Devil’s kingdom has prevailed against the Saints, although, not against God’s kingdom in the ultimate sense.

 “.. it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdom..”

We are further informed by the prophecies in the Book of Daniel that when the kingdom of God begins rolling forth, it will do so in POWER and it will smite the kingdoms of the world and “brake them to Pieces” (Dan 2:34-35, 44-45) Most objective observers would have to admit that the kingdoms of the world have not been brought into submission to the Kingdom of God.

 “..That thy church may come forth out of the wilderness of darkness..”

As further evidence that the Saints were not rolling the kingdom of God forth in power beginning on February 24th 1834, as one of two prophetic options decreed in section 103, we need simply to fast forward two years to Section 109, given on March 27 1836 wherein we are informed that although the kingdom had been previously “set up without hands”, it would not become a great mountain until a future time when the Lord’s true church would once again “come forth out of the wilderness of darkness”


72 Remember all thy church, O Lord, with all their families, and all their immediate connections, with all their sick and afflicted ones, with all the poor and meek of the earth; that the kingdom, which thou hast set up without hands, may become a great mountain and fill the whole earth;

73 That thy church may come forth out of the wilderness of darkness, and shine forth fair as the moon, clear as the sun, and terrible as an army with banners;

74 And be adorned as a bride for that day when thou shalt unveil the heavens, and cause the mountains to flow down at thy presence, and the valleys to be exalted, the rough places made smooth; that thy glory may fill the earth;


As you can see from the dedicatory prayer, Joseph and his brethren, that crafted the prayer under the spirit of revelation knew that the kingdom of God, and the Church of God, would need to come forth at a later time.


Consistent with that prophecy, about the kingdom coming forth in power at a future time, is the prophetic dream documented is section 65 that informs us that the kingdom will roll forth in power at a future time when “a voice” of someone who will be “sent down from on high” as a forerunner, typological to John the Baptist, will warn e inhabitance of the earth, sayingth “Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.. Prepare ye the way of the Lord, prepare ye the supper of the Lamb, make ready for the Bridegroom… Call upon the Lord, that his kingdom may go forth upon the earth, that the inhabitants thereof may receive it..


Joseph Smith clearly did not believe that the Kingdom of God began prevailing against the kingdoms of the world, beginning on February 24th 1834. He saw the rolling forth of the kingdom of God as a future event. Just months before he died in 1844, he made the following declaration showing that the kingdom Daniel prophesied of was to be a future event, that he planned to be an instrument in setting up:


“I calculate to be one of the instruments of setting up the kingdom of Daniel by the word of the Lord, and I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world.” (History of the Church, 6:364–65; from a discourse given by Joseph Smith on May 12, 1844, in Nauvoo, Illinois; reported by Thomas Bullock.)


What few people realize, is that prophecy tells us that the kingdom of God was to come forth twice as a result of the foundation that was laid during the LDS restoration. First, it would be established on earth for a brief period of time, while some very important things were secretly accomplished, and then the Gentile Church would stumble and sin against the fulness. Shortly after being established, the Saints are persecuted by the Dragon and the kingdom is caught up to God. In other words, the Church of God that comes forth out of the wilderness, flees back into the wilderness because of apostasy.


The second event is when the kingdom that was previously established, returns to the earth in power and breaks in pieces the kingdoms of the world as prophetically documented in Daniel .


The decree from the Lord in section 103 documented the fact that as of February of 1834, the kingdom of God had already been established upon the earth through the instrumentality of the Prophet Joseph Smith.


Those who are intimately familiar with the events of the LDS restoration movement, and understand how to interpret them in the context of prophecy, have no problem identifying the restoration of the Melchizedek priesthood at the special Conference at the Morley Farm, as the beginning point of the establishment of the Kingdom of God on earth with the fulness of the Gospel/Priesthood restored upon the earth. Clearly, that represented the initial establishment of the Kingdom of God on earth. It was birthed in June of 1831.


“..and her child [Kingdom of God ] was caught up unto God”


The apostle John noted that the Kingdom of God would be caught up to God shortly after being birthed because of the persecution of the Dragon:


“the dragon stood before the woman [Church of God] which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child [Kingdom of God] as soon as it was born. And she brought forth a man child [Kingdom of God], who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child [Kingdom of God ] was caught up unto God, and to his throne“. JST Revelation 12:4-5)

As you can see from the words of John, the kingdom of God was caught up to God shortly after coming forth upon the earth. He notes that those of the Church of God that had helped to bring forth the kingdom of God would be persecuted by the Dragon. One can study the lives of the founding fathers of Mormonism and other prominent leaders and members of the church to realize that each and every single one of them was severely persecuted and overcome by the Dragon.


“.. the dragon..persecuted the woman [church]


According to some estimates, nearly 1/3 of the membership of the restored church and half of the leadership fell away during the Kirtland era. The three witnesses and many others left the church during the Far West era. The succession crisis after the martyrdom of Joseph and Hyrum in Nauvoo culminated in the church splintering into at least seven prominent, identifiable  factions. Brigham Young and the Twelve led a faction to Utah and were bound over to Satan by a secret masonic oath. People like William Marks began visiting the different LDS offshoots to try and find where the Kingdom of God had fled to. Some people like William Law eventually lost faith altogether in the restoration. The persecution of the Dragon we ruthless.


The apostle John notes that many generations after the kingdom of God is caught up to God and the remaining saints were persecuted, a remnant of the seed of the church of God would once again “keep the commandments” and “have the testimony of Jesus“. Those descriptives clearly identify the eventual return of the Kingdom of God to the earth. At that time, the dragon would make war with this last generation of Saints who are bringing forth the Kingdom of God for the last time:


“And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child… And the dragon was wroth with the woman [Church of God] and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” (Revelation 12:13-17)


We know from the Book of Daniel and other passages, that when the kingdom returns for the last time, it will break in pieces the kingdoms of the world.


The “horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them”


The Book of Daniel provides a second witness to John’s prophecy, that the horn would wear out the New Testament saints and that apostasy would follow until the LDS restoration. The “horn” would “wear out the saints of the most High.. and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.


From this we learn that the New Testament Saints are worn out and given into the hand of the “horn” until a designated 3 1/2 year period of time during which the kingdom is established on the earth through the instrumentality of the prophet Joseph Smith.


We also learn that after the designated 3 1/2 year period, the saints sin against the fulness and revert back to their previous sins, into a state of apostasy.

gentiles sin 2

As depicted above in the illustration, the Book of Mormon and Book of Commandments inform us that the believing Gentiles would be involved in a long list of transgressions prior to receiving the fulness of the Gospel. Shortly after rejecting the fulness, they would return to their previous transgressions. We Latter day Saints have inherited these transgressions from the traditions of our fathers.


One of the most important and compelling events of the LDS restoration movement was the establishment of the kingdom of God on earth. In previous posts we have documented that the restoration of the Melchizedek priesthood and the kingdom of God was established upon the earth during Joseph’s ministry for a period of 3 1/2 years, from about June 4 1831 when 23 High Priests were called by the voice of God out of heaven, to November 30th 1834, when the saints cumulatively failed in their attempt at consecration and broke the everlasting covenant they had entered into.


This caused Joseph and Oliver to jointly enter into the “covenant of tithing” to secure the “continuation of blessings“. This would enabled the saints to complete the Kirtland temple so that an intercessory offering could take place and an ancient dispensation would be secretly ushered in.


At about the time of the intercessory offering, The Book of Daniel foretells that the “..horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them; Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.


Anyone person or group of people who think they are going to usher in Zion before the Ancient of Days returns into the vineyard has not studied the prophecies.


We know that the kingdoms of the world have prevailed over the latter day saints. From the prophetic testimony of Daniel and John, we know that the latter day saints stumbled and fell back into transgression and darkness after the kingdom was brought forth by the Saints. From the above passage we know that the “true and living church” fled back into the wilderness of darkness, and it will not come out of that darkness and repent, until the servants return to the vineyard in the 3rd watch under the direction of the Ancient of Days.


The Stumbling Blocks will be removed in the 3rd Watch


The Book of Mormon differentiates the time when the kingdom of God was briefly established in the earth through the instrumentality of Joseph Smith as the time when the gospel is delivered primarily in “word“. Conversely, the time when the kingdom returns in power is referred to as the time when the gospel is delivered in “word, power and very deed“. it is at that time that our many stumbling blocks will be removed:


AND it shall come to pass, that if the Gentiles shall hearken unto the Lamb of God in that day that he shall manifest himself unto them in word, and also in power, in very deed, unto the taking away of their stumbling blocks—

2 And harden not their hearts against the Lamb of God, they shall be numbered among the seed of thy father; yea, they shall be numbered among the house of Israel; and they shall be a blessed people upon the promised land forever; they shall be no more brought down into captivity; and the house of Israel shall no more be confounded.” (Nephi 14:1-2)


As the above illustration depicts, the dispensation of the gospel of Abraham was secretly ushered in once the Gentiles rejected the fulness and stumble back into their previous sins.

It is also significant to note that an intercessory offering was made by Joseph and others in behalf of apostate latter day Israel. The 9th chapter of Daniel refers to this offering as a “reconciliation for iniquity” that took place at the time that the “anointing” took place in the Lords “sanctuary“. The prophecy notes that God’s latter day servants would be commanded to “Seal up the vision and prophecy” for a time and not publicly reveal that an intervention had taken place. We now have this secret vision and associated prophecy documented in Section 110 of the D&C. It is sad that there are some, leading others astray, who are strongly inferring that the events documented in Section 110 never took place. Doing such is to deny revelation.


It is not a good thing for the disciples of Christ to reject such a foundational event of the LDS restoration.


Following this amazing act of intercessory intervention, the fulness of the gospel was replaced with the preparatory gospel and the Book of Daniel notes that the “overspreading of abominations” would take place among the latter day saints until the appointed time of “consumption” takes place upon the wicked in the 3rd watch.


Prophecy Testifies of the Divine Mission of Joseph Smith


After studying the history of the church and the prophecies contained in the Book of Daniel, for nearly three decades, I believe that many of the prophecies and related prophetic time sequences given in the book of Daniel can be identified within the context of the ministry of the prophet Joseph Smith and the history of the church during those years. Although the kingdom of God only touched down for a very brief time, a foundation was laid for the future return of the kingdom and the marvelous work that it would usher in.

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In a previous post titled “A Mystical Look at the LDS Restoration Movement“, it was noted that the commandment to build the temple was given exactly 70 weeks plus 69 weeks prior to the acceptance of the Temple.


This is just one of many fulfillments of the prophecies in the Book of Daniel that took place during the LDS restoration. When the servants of the Lord’s vineyard return, they will no doubt expound upon these fulfillment in vivid detail as they minister among the great and noble cities reproving the world in righteousness of all their unrighteous and ungodly deeds and setting forth clearly and understandingly the desolation of abomination in the last days. (D&C 84 117)


The Savior gives a seven part prophecy in 3rd Nephi showing that after the Gentiles reject the fulness, the knowledge of the gospel is taken to the House of Israel. Finally, many generations later, the Gentiles repent and are numbered among the righteous remnants of the House of Israel when the fulness is ushered in.

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“And thus commandeth the Father that I should say unto you: At that day when the Gentiles shall sin against my gospel, and shall reject the fulness of my gospel, and shall be lifted up in the pride of their hearts above all nations, and above all the people of the whole earth, and shall be filled with all manner of lyings, and of deceits, and of mischiefs, and all manner of hypocrisy, and murders, and priestcrafts, and whoredoms, and of secret abominations; and if they shall do all those things, and shall reject the fulness of my gospel, behold, saith the Father, I will bring the fulness of my gospel from among them”


The above prophecy by Christ is not just referring to the unbelieving Gentiles. It is also referring to the believing Gentiles of the LDS restoration Movement.


Notice the listing of sins that are credited to the believing Gentiles that sin against the fulness after receiving it, not to the unbelieving Gentiles that never receive it:


  • pride of their hearts
  • all manner of lyings
  • deceits
  • mischiefs
  • all manner of hypocrisy
  • murders
  • priestcrafts
  • whoredoms
  • secret abominations;


“..behold I will deliver them up unto Satan”


In chapter 4 of the Book of Commandments the Lord reiterates again the listing of sins found among both, the unbelieving and the believing Gentiles:


“..And thus, if the people of this generation harden not their hearts, I will work a reformation among them, and I will put down all lyings, and deceivings, and priestcrafts, and envyings, and strifes, and idolatries, and sorceries, and all manner of iniquities, and I will establish my church, like unto the church which was taught by my disciples in the days of old.


And now if this generation do harden their hearts against my word, behold I will deliver them up unto Satan, for he reigneth and hath power at this time, for he hath got great hold upon the hearts of the people of this generation: and not far from the iniquities of Sodom and Gomorrah, do they come at this time: and behold the sword of justice hangeth over their heads, and if they persist in the hardness of their hearts, the time cometh that it must fall upon them.


 Behold I tell you these things even as I also told the people of the destruction of Jerusalem, and my word shall be verified at this time as it hath hitherto been verified..”


The listing of sins leveled against the believing Gentiles in modern revelation is the same as the listing given by Christ in 3rd Nephi:


  • all lyings
  • deceivings
  • priestcrafts
  • envyings
  • strifes
  • idolatries
  • sorceries
  • all manner of iniquities (murder, whoredom, secret abominations, etc)


Sorceries, Witchcraft and Abominations


The Book of Mormon informs us that the Gentiles were involved in a huge list of sins that needed to be repented of before the LDS restoration. Although we may have a tendency to assume that this refers to all of the wicked unbelieving Gentiles that did not accept the restored gospel, that is not the case. The truth is that even the Christian Gentiles, that would accept the Book of Mormon and the restored Gospel were involved in all manner of abominations prior to accepting the restored gospel.


The Joseph Smith Sr Family is a textbook example of the believing Gentiles who were believers in Christ, yet it appears as if they were also involved in sorceries and secret abominations. When Mike Quinn published “Early Mormonism and the Magic World View” he documented the fact that the Smiths and many of the other prominent families of the restoration were involved in the occult and what is referred to Biblically as “sorcery”, “witchcraft” and “all manner of iniquities”.


We learn from Quinn that the Joseph Smith Sr Family owned “implements of ritual magic” and “possessed magic parchments“. (pg 98) Quinn quotes Joseph’s mother, Lucy Mack Smith as commenting on “drawing magic circles or sooth saying” as a Smith family past time along with “Bible-reading“. (pgs 66-67)


He claims that “the Smith family members themselves provided evidence of their involvement in more ‘esoteric manifestations’ of ‘Christian occultism'”. He points out that “certain statements by family members and early associates either implied or affirmed that during the 1820’s the Smith family believed in and used ritual magic, astrology, talismans, and parchments inscribed with magic words and occult symbols.”


Quinn is not alone in these observations about the Smith family. “Historian Richard L Bushman observed that thereby Lucy ‘revealed a knowledge of magic formulas and rituals“. (Pg 70)


Quinn documents the possession and use of amulets and talismans by the prophet Joseph Smith in his book, as do many other historians.


In his highly controversial presentation to the Mormon History Association, titled: “Is There No Help For the Widows Son?”, Dr. Reed Durham, Jr. made the following statement:


“Now, I should like to initiate all of you into what is perhaps the strangest, the most mysterious, occult-like, esoteric, and yet Masonically oriented practice ever adopted by Joseph Smith. This may also be another fine example of our earlier explained principle of “grabbing on.”

All available evidence suggests that Joseph Smith the Prophet possessed a magical Masonic medallion, or talisman, which he worked during his lifetime and which was evidently on his person when he was martyred. His talisman is in the shape of a silver dollar and is probably made of silver or tin. It is exactly one and nine-sixteenths inches in diameter, and weighs slightly less than one-half ounce.

After months of research, the talisman, presently existing in Utah, (in the Wilford Wood Collection, D. C. M.) was originally purchased from the Emma Smith Bidamon family, fully notarized by that family to be authentic and to have belonged to Joseph Smith, can now be identified as a Jupiter talisman.

It carries the sign and image of Jupiter and should more appropriately be referred to as the Table of Jupiter. And in some very real and quite mysterious sense, this particular Table of Jupiter was the most appropriate talisman for Joseph Smith to possess.

Indeed, it seemed meant for him, because on all levels of interpretation: planetary, mythological, numerological, astrological, mystical cabalism, and talismatic magic, the Prophet was, in every case appropriately described. (See my addition: Appendix B. M. B. H.).

The characters on the talisman are primarily in Hebrew, but there is one inscription in Latin. Every letter in the Hebrew alphabet has a numerical equivalent and those numerical equivalents make up a magic square.

By adding the numbers in this Jupiter Table in any direction (each row, column, or diagonal. M. B. H.), the total will be the same. In this case, on the Jupiter Table, 34. (Appendix B. M. B. H.) The total of the numbers will he 136 which number you will see on the talisman. The symbol for Jupiter (closely resembling the usual script, or hand-written, numeral 4. M. B. H.) is also found on both sides of the talisman, which by the way, is the same symbol for metal tin.

It is not my purpose to suggest that all of the esoteric, occult and masonic rituals that the Smith family was involved in was evil or wrong. However, it would not be inconsistent with the Book of Mormon narrative, if the Smith and other families of the restoration were involved in dark practices before the restoration, some of which they may well have returned to after stumbling, after the Kirtland apostasy.


We Latter day Saints, ourselves, are in a state of apostasy and live during the time of “hidden darkness” when we don’t even recognize many of our own transgressions. We obviously have a distorted view of things and we need to remember that “my ways are not your ways, neither are your ways my ways sayeth the Lord“.


My point is simply that the Joseph Smith Sr. Family and the other families of the restoration were undoubtedly involved in some of the iniquities of the Gentiles that the Book of Mormon speaks of. Although we prefer to envision Joseph Smith being taught in all the ways of the Lord prior to the first vision, the truth is that Joseph and his family were largely creatures of the culture they lived in and the traditions of their fathers. In the words of Isaiah, “he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.”


Joseph was pretty rough around the edges having grown up as a root in dry ground, when the Lord miraculously favored him with a visit from heaven because of his child-like faith.




In Micah 5 when the ” the remnant of Jacob shall be among the Gentiles” to tread down and tear in pieces the Lords enemies, the Lord informs us that:


I will cut off witchcrafts out of thine hand; and thou shalt have no more soothsayers:

Thy graven images also will I cut off, and thy standing images out of the midst of thee; and thou shalt no more worship the work of thine hands.”

Clearly, the believing Gentiles of the restoration were involved in sorceries and witchcrafts before the kingdom of God was restored and we have since returned to such practices. The use of modern day pharmaceuticals is just one form of modern witchcraft that few Mormons recognize as being a source of evil.

 “..Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female”

In the above passage, the Ten Commandments and many other similar ones, God’s people are clearly instructed to not make graven images and standing idols. It appears from prophecy that the Lord is no more impressed with “graven images” and “standing images” in the last days, than he was anciently.


Is there any reason to believe that the commandment to not make any graven images is no longer in effect?


How many of us have pictures of Christ in our homes, or pictures of any human forms.


What about standing images?

Have you been to temple square or Nauvoo lately?


This form of Idolatry is rampant in the apostate church.


The point is that we are not even aware of the many ways that we offend God and disregard his commandments. There are so many things embedded in our culture that appear to be insignificant and innocuous to us because we have become desensitized, yet they blatantly break the commandments of God.


I am not going to even attempt to catalogue all of the abominations that we Latter day Saints are involved in, nor do I pretend to even know what they all are. instead, I am going to focus on the false covenant that has become the center of our belief system… the temple endowment.


Here is another observation made by Dr. Reed Durham who has studied the life of Joseph Smith extensively:


 “There is absolutely no question in my mind that the Mormon ceremony which came to be known as the Endowment, introduced by Joseph Smith to Mormon Masons initially, just a little over one month after he became a Mason, had an immediate inspiration from Masonry. This is not to suggest that no other source of inspiration could have been involved, but the similarities between the two ceremonies are so apparent and overwhelming that some dependent relationship cannot be denied. They are so similar, in fact, that one writer was led to refer to the Endowment as Celestial Masonry.”


It is refreshing to here such honesty from a Mormon historian after all of the apologetic books that have been written which attempt to disassociate the origin of the temple ceremony from Nauvoo Masonry. Thank you Dr Durham for stating the obvious! Another interesting theory that is promoted is the notion that the origins of Masonry come from the true endowment that was had anciently and then became corrupted over the years. While that theory enables us to feel better about the obvious association between the Masonic Brigham Young Temple Endowment and the Masonic ritual, there is nothing in the word of God to substantiate such a claim.


“..God shall send them strong delusion..”


People who think that we currently live during the dispensation of the fulness of times and can enjoy the second comforter and get their calling and election made sure right now, have been seriously deceived. Everyone of the self righteous among us that are claiming to be visiting with the Lord are currently up to their eyeballs in the sins of the Gentiles. The Second Comforter cannot possibly take place until AFTER the servants return and the Gentiles REPENT. We currently live during a time of hidden darkness when people think they have repented and are righteous but they are not.


Gazelem will shine a light on the false endowment of the Gentiles

In the 27th chapter of Alma, the prophet Alma is entrusting the plates of brass, which were handed down among the expired Jaredite nation, to his son Helaman. These plates contain the Holy Scriptures and the genealogy of their forefathers, even from the beginning. He explains that the content thereof, and the mysteries contained therein, will someday go forth to every nation, kindred, tongue and people. These plates will some day confound the wise and help to bring about the salvation of many souls.

Alma informs Helaman that the plates “are preserved for a wise purpose” to “show forth his power unto future generations” which cannot be fully explained at that time. He teaches some principles that have direct application to the history of the restoration movement. One is that ” If ye will keep my commandments ye shall prosper in the land—but if ye keep not his commandments ye shall be cut off from his presence.” Then Alma gives a strong warning according to the spirit of prophecy to Helaman that “if ye transgress the commandments of God, behold, these things which are sacred shall be taken away from you by the power of God, and ye shall be delivered up unto Satan


Thus we are given yet another historical and doctrinal precedence for the warning of the Lord to the Latter day Saints just as the restoration was taking place, as documented in chapter 4 of the Book of Commandments:


And now if this generation do harden their hearts against my word, behold I will deliver them up unto Satan


Alma continues on to inform Helaman that the 24 plates contain the “secret works” even the “works of darkness” of the Jaredites for which they were destroyed from off the face of the earth:


And now, I will speak unto you concerning those twenty-four plates, that ye keep them, that the mysteries and the works of darkness, and their secret works, or the secret works of those people who have been destroyed, may be made manifest unto this people; yea, all their murders, and robbings, and their plunderings, and all their wickedness and abominations, may be made manifest unto this people; yea, and that ye preserve these interpreters.


For behold, the Lord saw that his people began to work in darkness, yea, work secret murders and abominations; therefore the Lord said, if they did not repent they should be destroyed from off the face of the earth.”


Gazelem shall expose the Endowment of the Corporate Church

And the Lord said: I will prepare unto my servant Gazelem, a stone, which shall shine forth in darkness unto light, that I may discover unto my people who serve me, that I may discover unto them the works of their brethren, yea, their secret works, their works of darkness, and their wickedness and abominations.

And now, my son, these interpreters were prepared that the word of God might be fulfilled, which he spake, saying:

I will bring forth out of darkness unto light all their secret works and their abominations; and except they repent I will destroy them from off the face of the earth; and I will bring to light all their secrets and abominations, unto every nation that shall hereafter possess the land.” (Alma 37:23-25)


Alma goes on to explain that the records in the brass plates contain all of the oaths, covenants, agreements, signs, wonders, and murders pertaining to the “secret abominations” and “secret combinations” that the apostate Jaredites practiced, which eventually caused them to be wiped off of the face of the land. It also notes a “secret plan” for global dominance. Although it could be referring to many localized plans these combinations have been from generation to generation. I would submit that it is referring to the master plan Satan has of global domination to take place in the last generation of time when all people will be forced to choose between laboring for money or for Zion.

The knowledge of these ancient secret abominations and secret combinations is important for the upcoming redemption of Zion. This is because these insidious things have been passed down through the ages and they have infiltrated virtually all of the governments of the world.

Additionally, but generally overlooked, these insidious combinations and abominations have infiltrated the restored church with Satan’s oaths and signs and wonders having been embedded within an occult temple ceremony which is passed off as an essential ordinance of salvation.

The believing Gentiles of the restored church unwittingly embraced these nefarious abominations and combinations when Joseph Smith, acting as God’s right arm of chastisement, delivered the Saints over to Satan by giving them a false doctrine of spiritual wifery intertwined with a modified Masonic Temple endowment.

This abominable practice of fornication and adultery under the guise of spiritual wifery and the secret combination-endowment which originally contained an “oath of vengeance“, requiring the oath of each practitioner to murder the assassins of the prophet Joseph Smith if ever given the chance. It is believed by some, including myself, that the oath of vengeance is what inspired and motivated the Mountain Meadows Massacre and many other ritualistic murders that have taken place among fringe LDS groups that were doing the secret signs and tokens and “true order of prayer” found in the LDS endowment.

The Masonic inspired endowment contained numerous secret gestures called “signs and tokens” that people were under the threat of death to never divulge. Prior to 1927, participants made an oath that if they ever revealed the secret gestures of the ceremony, they would be subject to the following:

my throat … be cut from ear to ear, and my tongue torn out by its rootsour breasts … be torn open, our hearts and vitals torn out and given to the birds of the air and the beasts of the fieldyour body … be cut asunder and all your bowels gush out.[changed to] different ways in which life may be taken

The wording of the endowment has been modified multiple times over the years and has been passed down to us through the false traditions of our fathers. We Gentiles cannot fully repent until we understand what this secret abomination and secret combination is, that we have mindlessly embraced because it puts us under the express power and dominion of Satan!

Please make note of the keyword terms used by Alma when describing these things done by “workers of darkness”.

  • oaths
  • covenants
  • agreements
  • signs
  • wonders
  • secret plan
  • murders
  • “secret abominations”
  • “secret combinations”

From Alma 37, it is revealed that there was to be a latter day prophet by the code name of Gazelem who will finally bring to light these works of darkness among all nations that inhabit this land of America. The coming forth of the prophet Gazelem and the exposing of Satan’s secret order and their plan, is one of the great events that must take place before the Gentiles can repent and before Zion can be established.

Joseph Smith is Gazelem

Who is this prophet Gazelem?

I would submit that it is the prophet Joseph Smith for several reasons.

One reason is that shortly after the formal establishment of the church, the Lord used Joseph Smith to reveal the great “mystery” that the enemy was “combined”:

“the powers of darkness prevail upon the earth, among the children of men, in the presence of all the hosts of heaven- Which causeth silence to reign, and all eternity is pained, and the angels are waiting the great command to reap down the earth, to gather the tares that they may be burned; and, behold, the enemy is combined”. (D&C 38:11-12)


Murder was the intent of the secret combination:


“..And again, I say unto you that the enemy in the secret chambers seeketh your lives.” (D&C 38:28 )

The solution provided for protection against the secret combination was to become a gathered people who were sanctified. This necessitated a migration to Ohio, where the Law of Zion would be given and the saints would receive the endowment of power from on high:


“And that ye might escape the power of the enemy, and be gathered unto me a righteous people, without spot and blameless— Wherefore, for this cause I gave unto you the commandment that ye should go to the Ohio; and there I will give unto you my law; and there you shall be endowed with power from on high” (D&C 38:31-32)


From Ohio, those endowed with power from on high would go forth into all nations and the great last marvelous work would begin:


“And from thence, whosoever I will shall go forth among all nations, and it shall be told them what they shall do; for I have a great work laid up in store, for Israel shall be saved, and I will lead them whithersoever I will, and no power shall stay my hand.” (D&C 38:33)


As previously noted, the enemy overcame the Saints and the endowment of Power had to be delayed until the 3rd watch when the ushering in of the dispensation of the fulness of times will take place.


Clearly, Joseph Smith revealed that a secret order had been conspiring in “secret chambers” to “bring to pass the destruction” of the restored church. He also laid out what needed to be done to escape the power of the enemy. Sadly, the saints failed to consecrate, gather and redeem Zion in the 2nd watch.

Another way that Joseph is identified as Gazelem is that Gazelem was a code name used for Joseph Smith in three of the revelations that he received. These revelations spanned a period of two years, from 1832 to 1834). Joseph Smith was called “Gazelam” by the Lord in D&C 78:9; 82:11; 104:26, 43, 45, 46; (pre-1981 editions).

Joseph Smith also brought to light additional information about Satan’s secret societies by translating the Book of Mormon

23 Wherefore, O ye Gentiles, it is wisdom in God that these things should be shown unto you, that thereby ye may repent of your sins, and suffer not that these murderous combinations shall get above you, which are built up to get power and gain—and the work, yea, even the work of destruction come upon you, yea, even the sword of the justice of the Eternal God shall fall upon you, to your overthrow and destruction if ye shall suffer these things to be.

24 Wherefore, the Lord commandeth you, when ye shall see these things come among you that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation, because of this secret combination which shall be among you; or wo be unto it, because of the blood of them who have been slain; for they cry from the dust for vengeance upon it, and also upon those who built it up.

25 For it cometh to pass that whoso buildeth it up seeketh to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries; and it bringeth to pass the destruction of all people, for it is built up by the devil, who is the father of all lies; even that same liar who beguiled our first parents, yea, even that same liar who hath caused man to commit murder from the beginning; who hath hardened the hearts of men that they have murdered the prophets, and stoned them, and cast them out from the beginning.

26 Wherefore, I, Moroni, am commanded to write these things that evil may be done away, and that the time may come that Satan may have no power upon the hearts of the children of men, but that they may be persuaded to do good continually, that they may come unto the fountain of all righteousness and be saved.


Joseph’s Patriarchal Blessing


Another reason to believe that Joseph is the great prophet Gazelem, is that according to Joseph’s patriarchal blessing, it is his calling to once again use the Urim and Thummim to bring forth all of the ancient records:

“He shall partake of the blessing of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob; the chief things of the ancient mountains, the precious things that couch beneath, and the treasure hid in the sand.
The records of past ages and generations, and the histories of ancient days shall he bring forth, even the record of the Nephites shall he again obtain, with all those hid up by Mormon, and others who were righteous; and many others till he is overwhelmed with knowledge.


No precious thing shall slumber from his possession, for he shall be covered with the most choice things of all ages, till his soul shall be satisfied and his heart shall say, Enough! Enough!


In his hands shall the Urim and Thummim remain and the holy ministry, and the keys of the evangelical priesthood also for an everlasting priesthood forever, even the patriarchal; for, behold, he is the first patriarch in the last days.”


Another reason for Joseph being Gazelem is that the description of “a stone, which shall shine forth in darkness unto light” matches the unusual way that Joseph gazed at a stone in the darkness created by putting it in a hat, during the work of translation.

BTW it is interesting that members of the church become angry and loose faith when they find out how Joseph Smith translated the plates by placing a seer stone in a hat and then buried his face in it while the stone shined forth and provided the translation of the ancient language in English. That is the protocol being described in the book of Mormon of how Gazelem will translate. He will have a stone that will shine forth in darkness unto light!


When Joseph Smith returns, he will expose the temple endowment for what it really is, and clearly bring to light the abominations and combinations of the latter day Gentiles, when he returns, he already has partially completed the work of exposing the origins of the secret societies that infest our globe, as well as the Mormon Temple endowment by bringing forth the Book of Mormon and the Book of Moses. Both records provide descriptions of secret works of darkness that are plainly linked to the dark practices of Masonry and the international global that currently is working the “plan” mentioned in the Book of Mormon. Amazingly, the Lord used Joseph Smith as an instrument in delivering the Saints over to Satan and giving them Satan’s covenant. Conversely, he will use Joseph as an instrument to bring to light the abominations they had been delivered over to and the “break all bonds” that currently have us in temporal and spiritual bondage to this secret combination.

Indeed, the prophetic acknowledgement in the Book of Mormon that “all things shall be made known” and that “there is no work of darkness save it shall be made manifest in the light, is clearly referring to Joseph’s ministry as the Lord’s servant Gazelem. (2 Nephi 30:16-17)

In a revelation given to Sidney Rigdon the Lord prophesied that when the “Great Work” finally takes place, the folly and abominations of the Gentile Church and the Gentile nations will be manifest:

“And it shall come to pass that there shall be a great work in the land, even among the Gentiles, for their folly and their abominations shall be made manifest in the eyes of all people.”

The Book of Moses Exposes the Satanic LDS Temple Endowment

Isaiah foresaw that the latter day Jews would stumble and “fall backward, and be broken and snared and taken” shortly after the restoration. He notes that they would be enticed into a “covenant with death and with hell“:

“But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.


Wherefore hear the word of the LORD, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem.


Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:


Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.


Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.


And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.


From the time that it goeth forth it shall take you: for morning by morning shall it pass over, by day and by night: and it shall be a vexation only to understand the report.” Isaiah 28:13-19


Earlier in Isaiah 28, we are informed that the prophet Joseph and the Priest Sidney, would err in judgment, leaving the Saints with a multituce of false doctrines to pass down through the false traditions of the Fathers:

“But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.

For all tables are full of vomit and filthiness, so that there is no place clean. (Isaiah 28 7-8)


The Covenant Between Satan and Cain

After translating the Book of Mormon, which contains many prophecies about the secret abominations and combinations that would infiltrate the restored church, Joseph Smith then translated the Bible. It is from the inspired version of the Bible that we get the Book of Moses which brings to light exactly how the practice of this secret abomination/combination came into this world through a covenant between Satan and Cain. It also highlighted some of the key aspects of this sinister work of darkness.

Here is the passage that you need to be intimately familiar with if you are an endowed latter day saint because you have entered into the modern day version of it:

“And it came to pass that Cain took one of his brothers’ daughters to wife, and they loved Satan more than God.

29 And Satan said unto Cain: Swear unto me by thy throat, and if thou tell it thou shalt die; and swear thy brethren by their heads, and by the living God, that they tell it not; for if they tell it, they shall surely die; and this that thy father may not know it; and this day I will deliver thy brother Abel into thine hands.

30 And Satan sware unto Cain that he would do according to his commands. And all these things were done in secret.

31 And Cain said: Truly I am Mahan, the master of this great secret, that I may murder and get gain. Wherefore Cain was called Master Mahan, and he gloried in his wickedness.

32 And Cain went into the field, and Cain talked with Abel, his brother. And it came to pass that while they were in the field, Cain rose up against Abel, his brother, and slew him.

Please notice some of the vital elements of the Satanic Covenant that Cain entered into with Satan, which became the template for the secret works of darkness by all of the secret societies that would follow in the tradition from that time to the present..

  1. The Formation of a Combination: it is a covenant between two or more people, making it a “combination”

COMBINATION, n. 1. Intimate union, or association of two or more persons or things, by set purpose or agreement, for effecting some object, by joint operation; in a good sense, when the object is laudable; in an ill sense, when it is illegal or iniquitous. It is sometimes equivalent to league, or to conspiracy. ..”

  1. The Secretive Nature of the Combination: It must be kept a secret from those outside of the combination, hence, it is called a secret combination.
  2. Financial Gain and Excelling Above One’s Fellow Man: It is for the purpose of getting gain. This would include financial gain or even attempting to excel in other ways over ones fellow man.
  3. The Great Secret of Master Mahan: It contains the secret knowledge that one can get gain through the act of murder
  4. 5. A Blood Oath: It requires the person to take a blood oath not to divulge the secrets of the dastardly covenantal combination
  5. The Penalty of Death: It contains the penalty of death for divulging the secrets
  6. Swearing by the Head: It requires the candidates to Swear by their throat and heads

Do those elements of the secret combination between Satan and Cain ring a bell?

If you are an older endowed Mormon they certainly do because you have participated in a covenant that integrates virtually all of those elements.

Many younger endowed Latter day Saints are not even aware that candidates needed to swear an oath of vengeance and also swear an oath of secrecy by their neck and head, as part of the insane temple ritual, but it is true. This and many other aspects of the original Nauvoo endowment have been changed or eliminated altogether.



This is what the Savior had to say about swearing by the head, as documented in both the Bible and Book of Mormon:

“Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair black or white; But let your communication be Yea, yea; Nay, nay; for whatsoever cometh of more than these is evil.” 3rd Nephi 12:36-7


Given the fact that a personal decision to take life and swearing by one’s head are strictly forbidden by God, it is almost incomprehensible that the Latter day Saints embraced the masonic endowment administered to them by Brigham Young.

Nevertheless, as previously pointed out, God has the power to place a veil of darkness over our minds and take away the knowledge we have previously been given once we fail to keep the commandments. This is what the scriptures mean by “strong delusion”

If you are of the younger generation that has been endowed with the sanitized version of the temple ceremony, taking comfort in knowing that you have not been required to swear by your neck or entered into an oath to commit murder, there is something you need to know. Keep in mind that every time a change has been made to the temple endowment, the leaders of the church have been quick to remind the Saints that nothing has changed as far as the original intent of the endowment, the wording and certain acts have only been modified or deleted for the sake of shortening the endowment, or to cater to the sensitivities of the day, or other practical reasons.

Nothing in the original intent has been changed! From a legal, contractual point of view, this means that all endowed Saints have essentially entered into the same insidious combination that the early Saints entered into.

Embedded within this nefarious ceremony called the endowment is an implied agreement wherein an administrative temple worker depicting Satan, he presents himself before the congregation and placed a curse upon them :

“I have a word to say concerning these people. If they do not walk up to every covenant they make at these altars in this temple this day, they will be in my power!”

Have you kept every covenant that you made in the Temple?

Keep in mind that one of the covenants you entered into as part of the temple endowment is to keep the law of the Gospel as contained in the Book of Mormon and the Bible:

“PETER: A couple will now come to the altar.

Brethren and sisters, this couple at the altar represent all of you as if at the altar, and you will be under the same obligations as they will be.

We are required to give unto you the law of the gospel as contained in the Book of Mormon and the Bible; to give unto you, also, a charge to avoid all lightmindedness, loud laughter, evil speaking of the Lord’s anointed, the taking of the name of God in vain, and every other unholy and impure practice; and to cause you to receive these by covenant.

All arise.

Each of you bring your right arm to the square.

You and each of you covenant and promise before God, angels, and these witnesses at this altar that you will observe and keep the law of the gospel and this charge, as it has been explained to you.

Each of you bow your head and say, “Yes.”

That will do.”


The Commandment to Live wthe Laws of Zion
Was rescinded until the Redemption of Zion


When the Saints failed to live the law of the consecration and thereby failed to live the law of the Gospel in Kirtland, the Lord, in his infinite grace and mercy allowed an intercessory atonement to be made and he allowed the Saints to postpone living the laws of Zion for a little season:


VERILY I say unto you who have assembled yourselves together that you may learn my will concerning the redemption of mine afflicted people—


Behold, I say unto you, were it not for the transgressions of my people, speaking concerning the church and not individuals, they might have been redeemed even now.


But behold, they have not learned to be obedient to the things which I required at their hands, but are full of all manner of evil, and do not impart of their substance, as becometh saints, to the poor and afflicted among them;

And are not united according to the union required by the law of the celestial kingdom;

And Zion cannot be built up unless it is by the principles of the law of the celestial kingdom; otherwise I cannot receive her unto myself.


And my people must needs be chastened until they learn obedience, if it must needs be, by the things which they suffer…


.. Therefore it is expedient in me that mine elders should wait for a little season, for the redemption of Zion… And let those commandments which I have given concerning Zion and her law be executed and fulfilled, after her redemption”. (Section 105: 1-6, 13, 34)


Despite Gods grace and mercy in allowing the Saints to postpone living the law of the gospel, as contained the Bible and Book of Mormon while they are chastened for a little season, the LDS endowment has Peter replace the Saints under the commandment to live the law of the gospel as contained in the Bible and Book of Mormon.

With that understanding, Satan is placing the Saints under his power if they don’t keep the law of the Gospel. It is, of course, impossible for the Saints live the law of the Gospel until the Servants of the Lord return with the power to administer the saving ordinances of the Gospel and the law of consecration.

In hindsight, it becomes apparent that part of the chastening that the Saints must endure during the little season leading up to the 3rd watch, is to be delivered over to the power and spiritual bondage of Satan. Please remember the warning that the Lord gave the Saints back in 1829:

“And now if this generation do harden their hearts against my word, behold I will deliver them up unto Satan, for he reigneth and hath power at this time, for he hath got great hold upon the hearts of the people of this generation..”

As you can see, the administering of the covenant with death and hell upon the Latter day Saints by Brigham Young, was a literal fulfillment of prophecy. If Brigham Young’s testimony is true that Joseph commissioned him to oversee the administration of this covenant, then Joseph was simply acting as the Lord’s hand of chastisement.

I am sorry this part has taken so long.

We will now take a break for therapy.

When we will return, we will continue to dissect just how despicable this covenant with hell really is, some of the historicity regarding how it penetrated the restored church, and how it hijacks a person’s ability to receive true revelation from the Lord.

Keep in mind that all of the heretical offshoots of the church, including folks like the Lebarons and the vicious murders that they committed upon dissenters,, cutting their throats from ear to ear in the method enacted in the temple ceremony, as well as those executives downtown that are guiding the “good ship Zion” today, use the covenant with death and hell and the false “true order of prayer” as the foundational protocol for receiving revelation.

Almost all of the delusional people who are currently claiming to have received the second comforter have spoken in terms of hushed reverence about how the temple and endowment and true order of prayer, have been such a wonderful key in unlocking the heavens. “You know who”, for example, makes mention of the temple and/or endowment no less than 50 times in his “how to” book on how to get the Second Comforter.

Some leaders of the church are now teaching that a newly baptized member of the church does not get the gift of the Holy Ghost until they enter the temple and get endowed. These kinds of false doctrines and blasphemies are taking place because of a HUGE push to get people endowed because it puts people under the power of Satan and encourages blind obedience to the “Lords anointed”.

No wonder the ancient prophet Jeremiah looked into the future and exclaimed:

“Trust ye not in lying words, saying, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, are these.”

Hosea also made a profound observation about the state of his Jewish brethren which was an exact type of the latter days Jews as well:

“For Israel hath forgotten his Maker, and buildeth temples; and Judah hath multiplied fenced cities: but I will send a fire upon his cities, and it shall devour the palaces thereof.”

Ezekiel foresaw that judgment would begin at the sanctuary after those that have repented of the abominations have been sealed up to God:

“And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.

5 ¶ And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:

6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.” (Ezek 9:4-6 See also D&C 112)


Please don’t think this storyline, having to do with the apostate latter day saints is unusual or un-Biblical. this is how God operates. This is exactly what happened to the children of Israel. Once they rebelled and and refused to walk in God’s statutes and keep his judgments, He gave them statutes that were not good and polluted them in their gifts

18 But I said unto their children in the wilderness, Walk ye not in the statutes of your fathers, neither observe their judgments, nor defile yourselves with their idols:

19 I am the LORD your God; walk in my statutes, and keep my judgments, and do them;

20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your God.

21 Notwithstanding the children rebelled against me: they walked not in my statutes, neither kept my judgments to do them, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; they polluted my sabbaths: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them, to accomplish my anger against them in the wilderness.

22 Nevertheless I withdrew mine hand, and wrought for my name’s sake, that it should not be polluted in the sight of the heathen, in whose sight I brought them forth.

23 I lifted up mine hand unto them also in the wilderness, that I would scatter them among the heathen, and disperse them through the countries;

24 Because they had not executed my judgments, but had despised my statutes, and had polluted my sabbaths, and their eyes were after their fathers’ idols.

25 Wherefore I gave them also statutes that were not good, and judgments whereby they should not live;

26 And I polluted them in their own gifts, in that they caused to pass through the fire all that openeth the womb, that I might make them desolate, to the end that they might know that I am the LORD. (Ezekiel 20:18-26)


The next time you go to the temple for an endowment session, or you wonder why the true gifts of the spirit are not present in the church, just remember that we have been given statutes that are not good and we have been polluted in our gifts.

But there is a remedy for our situation and it is coming soon.


Are you watching for it?

Miscellaneous Musings #11 Six Year Anniversary of OneWhoIsWatching

October 24, 2014

are you in the wrong place

[WARNING: This blog documents the truthfulness of the restored gospel and the validity of the LDS restoration movement and the ministry of the prophet Joseph Smith. HOWEVER, it also contains very controversial material about LDS Church doctrine and history and it is often critical of Modern Mormonism and the actions and decisions of the leaders thereof.

This particular series of “Miscellaneous Musings” addresses current events and the random thoughts and observations of the author.

At times the author uses a tone of irreverence, cynicism and sarcasm as therapy to help himself and some of his readers cope with the absurd, alternate reality that we live in.

Although many of the Latter day Jews (Mormons)  are convinced that we have the fulness of the Gospel on the earth, I am of the belief that we actually live in the prophesied time of “hidden darkness” when God’s apostate people think they are righteous but they are not..

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**China to Purchase the Federal Reserve?**

**Citizen Pulls Cop Over… Gives Warning**

**Ebola (The Desolating Scourge?) Update**

Years ago I met a brilliant scientist as a result of this blog. I have enjoyed a correspondence with him over the years.

Several days ago, on the 15th of this month, I got the following email from him:

“this ebola mess is getting really, really bad. my prediction, this will flare to something quite large in the US in a matter of two months.” I hugely respect the opinion of this man. I responded to his email with this response: “I am concerned that this may be the “desolating sickness” mentioned in the scriptures. We live in a time when it is difficult to know what to believe. there are still people claiming it is just a false flag with no real threat… but there are also lots of terrifying stories. Who can we believe? The main reason I take it seriously is that such a plague is prophesied to emerge at about this time..(according to my precise calculations LOL) I recently read a story claiming that the disease was intentionally started by the American Red Cross who started it and spread it with their vaccines in that country. The government has since kicked the ARC out of the country because it was realized what they have done. It appears the mainstream media is covering it up. I realize that sounds unbelievable, but what if it is true? What if the PTB are implementing their global population control agenda through this disease? Now there are people calling for the vaccination of the global community to prevent this thing…RIGHT! Yep, sign me up for that one… NOT! It is also interesting how the demise of the dollar and the financial system is also being projected by some people to begin during that same two month period… Interesting times..” This was his response: “There is no vaccine for Ebola, so I wouldn’t put any stock in the ARC story, unless we are to assume that the ARC intentionally infected one or more individuals with an active virus and then purposefully reused needles from infected individuals to vaccinate (e.g., for measles, hepatitis, etc) uninfected people. That would require the collaboration of lots of field docs and nurses who would have to have ignored standard safety protocol, which is a scenario that is even too far-fetched for me. In fact, there is no real treatment for ebola whatsoever. There are experimental treatments that hold some promise; however, there are no resources to manufacture them on a scale that matters, since they only recently were put to the test. In my opinion, this is simply a case of ignorance, unpreparedness, negligence, or perhaps more maliciously, intentional negligence on the part of governments world-wide. The real issue here is that, contrary to what the CDC says, ebola appears to be air-borne, or at least is somewhat aerosolizable. In other words, either the CDC is just plain stupid, or they are lying about how contagious it is to blanket us with a false sense of security. On top of that, fatality is approaching 70%. This is super bad. Most people who die from the flu and other viruses are people who are immuno-compromised in some way due to pre-existing conditions. Ebola doesn’t discriminate, it simply kills you no matter how healthy you are (at least 70% of the time). This is the scariest part.” I then asked him the following question: “Do you put any stock in the claims that a blood transfusion from someone that recovers from the virus can cure the disease in someone else?” His response was: “That I do believe….given that that is the basis for what I do for a living. :) In one of our company’s product lines, antibodies are purified from people who have been previously immunized (or perhaps infected) with a virus like rabies, hepatitis c, tetanus, or another virus. The antibodies are concentrated and formulated to have a very low risk of contaminating pathogens, and then used by patients for acute infections of the aforementioned viruses. They help the body to fight the infection. The main difference between using whole blood from a person who has successfully recovered from ebola infection and using a purified stock of antibodies is that antibodies in the whole blood are less concentrated and there a much greater risk of opportunistic infection from a different virus or pathogen in the whole blood. (However, if you have ebola, I’m guessing you don’t really care if you contract another virus from whole blood treatment, even if it is HIV-1). Nevertheless, in the long run, it is much more preferable to have a purified therapeutic. Some of the experimental drugs that have been used successfully for ebola are similar in concept to purified human antibodies, except that they are mass produced in cell culture (basically, in large incubators or flasks) rather than harvested from human plasma (like we do at the company I work for). However, it seems to be much more effective to have a polyclonal treatment (many different kinds of antibodies like you get from human plasma) rather than monoclonal antibodies (like you get from cell culture). So these companies that make monoclonals tend to make a couple of them and combine them in a cocktail so that they are more effective. In a nutshell, yes, I think taking whole blood from a recovered individual works, but it is a last resort.” As I have pondered the ominous concerns that this fellow raised about the possibility of the Ebola mess getting really really bad in a matter of two months, I was reminded of the incubation period. What if many of the the hundreds of Americans who have possibly been exposed to this virus are in the incubation period and eventually break out! Can you imagine the panic and paranoia that would ensue? Particularly now that it is know that many people suffering from the virus don’t even get a fever. On a related note, here is a video of a concerned MD that I found quite interesting After reviewing 900 papers on Ebola… “The more I learn [about Ebola], the less I know Also consider this: • 95% of Ebola incubations occur from 1 – 21 days • 3% of Ebola incubations occur from 21 – 42 days • 2% of Ebola incubations are not explained (why?) If this interpretation of the WHO’s statistics are correct, it would mean that: • 1 in 20 Ebola infections may result in incubations lasting significantly longer than 21 days • The 21-day quarantine currently being enforced by the CDC is entirely insufficient to halt an outbreak • People who are released from observation or self-quarantine after 21 days may still become full-blown Ebola patients in the subsequent three weeks, even if they have shown no symptoms of infection during the first 21 days. (Yes, read that again…) Any declaration that an outbreak is over requires 42 days with no new infections BTW I have a first cousin that is a member of the Presidency of the Africa West Area of the Church. He noted at a family gathering that the Ebola crisis is leaving missionaries with no place to go after the mission ends because the countries that they are from will not allow them to return… gruesome!

**Temple Garment Damage Control**

 “To those outside a particular faith, the rituals and clothing may seem unfamiliar. But for the participants they can stir the deepest feelings of the soul, motivate them to do good, even shape the course of a whole life of service. The nun’s habit. The priest’s cassock. The Jewish prayer shawl. The Muslim’s skullcap. The saffron robes of the Buddhist monk. All are part of a rich tapestry of human devotion to God.” I never thought the church would use the apostate robes and paraphernalia of an apostate priesthood and of other pagan religions to justify the un-scriptural used of the robes and apron in the LDS temple ceremony. Here is one of my favorite snippets from brother Hugh..

**Two New Disciplinary Protocols ?** Two Excommunications for the Price of One

I am hearing stories increasingly about people who are called in by their Stake President for counseling and possible disciplinary action who, when they are not willing to be strong-armed into submission, they are invited to resign or face excommunication.

In the past, people were seldom invited to resign prior to a court, rather, they were simply brought into a church court.

If this is a new trend, I applaud the church on this change.

I think it is very wise on their part.

I think the church leaders have learned that when you excommunicate  for someone for apostasy, you are inadvertently destroying their reputation among certain judgmental friends and church members.  When you do that to sincere religious people who simply disagree with practices and doctrine, bad karma takes place and it comes back to haunt the church for generations.

In the past, destroying a person’s reputation was leverage that the church took advantage of.

Things appear to be changing.

Nowadays, because of the Internet and the court of public opinion,  it is the reputation of the church and how they treat people that seems to be on trial.

The Internet is making everything public.

Another trend, according to some accounts, is that the church is now categorically excommunicating the spouse of the person being disciplined if she appears to be supportive of her husband in anyway.

This is quite interesting.

I am not sure it is a true trend. I suspect there are a few isolated situations that we don’t have all of the information about that are being highlighted.

I am aware of leaders of the church in the past that have counseled people to divorce their spouse over doctrinal and faith based issues. I have a very close personal friend who had a crisis of faith in the early part of his marriage and his Bishop counseled his wife to leave him.

I feel there is a special place in hell for Bishops and Stake Presidents that would take it upon themselves to interfere in a marital relationship in that way.

The apostle Paul took quite a different view of the situation:

And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him. For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband..”

On the other hand, if the leaders of a local church really are beginning to put a spouse through excommunication even though they have paid a faithful tithe and never been vocal themselves, in a sense, the church may still be encouraging divorce. Such a humiliation upon a neutral spouse or even a spouse that leans towards the philosophical side of their mate may not weather the storm of public humiliation, and the strain may result in divorce.

Supposedly both of these trends are identified in this current event.

**Absolute Zero**

A book about a man with Ebola who flew to Dallas and began the Ebola pandemic in America

Published in 1999, written in 1997.

Has it all been planned out and revealed.

Very bizarre.

** I am a Racist**

**Magnetic Field weakening 10 times faster**

**Update on “Meet the Fokkers Mormons”**

In my last musings I commented about the up and coming Meet the Mormons Movie. Since then, the movie has hit the theaters and is doing better than expected by the leaders of the church. My personal assessment is that “Meet the Mormons” is an extension of the “I am a Mormon” Internet campaign, which subliminally promotes the “I want to be like you” narrative on varying levels. One the one hand, the “I am a Mormon” campaign wants non-Mormons to know that we Mormons are just like them. Just regular guys! Forget about our history of blood atonement, polygamy and racism. We are just like you now, world! The deeper message of the campaign is that “you pagan monkeys out there should want to be like us!” We are happy, successful and amazingly awesome! So come an join us and you can be totally awesome too! For this reason, I think the popular Disney song should be the theme song for the “I am a Mormon” internet campaign “I want to talk like you, walk like you, wee-bee-dee-boo..  La La La” Anyway, getting back to the new Meet the Mormons flick which is basically an extension of the “I am a Mormon” campaign except that it focuses on highly unusual people who have apparently internalized some Christ-like principles in their lives, a friend of mine went to see it and I asked him what his assessment of it was. His comment was that the marketing department of the church did a remarkable job of finding six needles in a haystack of about 15 million pieces of straw. LOL These hand picked people were chosen to be the poster children of Mormonism. What I found poignant was the Deseret News article on how the Church invited the whose who of famous celebrity Mormons to preview the screening. What a striking difference when you compare the lives of some of these high profile Mormons to the poster children in the movie. It was shocking to see celebrities who have exercised their faith in silicone and plastic surgery to maintain fame and fortune, and others who need to mainline Prozac in order to deal with their miserable lives because of really bad decisions they have made, in the context of being cheerleaders for the poster children of their shared faith. One has to wonder if some of the celebrities were privately mumbling something about how surprised they were, to find out from the movie, what Mormons are supposed to be like. It was also interesting to note that the church PR department had identified and recruited numerous high profile LDS bloggers and Vlogers to try and generate a viral marketing campaign to promote the movie. Heck, if Jeremy Runnells can use the Internet to do a negative viral campaign about Mormonism, why can’t the church use it to improve the image of the Church by promoting  a positive, if not, skewed view, of what an average Mormon is like? As I looked at how some of these online Internet celebrities became popular and what their themes are centered around, I had to blush a little bit. Several decades ago some of these folks would have been censored by the church, now they are embraced because they have a huge center of influence.

 **The Latest Financial Doom**

BIS warns on ‘violent’ reversal of global markets Why would a CIA insider predict that a 25 year great depression is going to begin in April of 2015?

**Is Karma Catching up with Lois Learner**

**ISIS Update**

ISIS : A CIA Creation to Justify War Abroad and Repression at Home

**Section 132 and the Doctrine of Exaltation**

Years ago I wrote some blog posts regarding the doctrinal inconsistencies and absurdities of Section 132. It completely contradicted three other revelations in the D&C when Brigham Young took it upon himself to canonize it.  I also questioned the doctrine of “exaltation” as depicted in section 132. It always tickles me when someone else seems to agree on many of the issues I bring up. Particularly when they do a better job of articulating the issues:

** Sixth Year Anniversary of OneWhoIsWatching**

A few days ago I was notified by WordPress that it was the 6th anniversary of OneWhoIsWatching. I should have ordered custom caps for readers of this blog that say “Because I am Watching” on them. LOL Perhaps I will do that one the 7th anniversary, which is hopefully about the time that the servants will return to the vineyard. I had started my ThreeWatches blogspot a few months prior to starting this blog which focused on how the Marvelous Work and a Wonder is a future event. It did not start back at the restoration of the Church. While posting over 50 scriptural and historical indicators showing that Joseph Smith’s ministry was a preparatory work for the great work that is yet to come forth, in the 3rd and final “watch” (dispensation) I decided to create this blog which would have to do with deep doctrine and church history. I chose to use wordpress for this theme because the Anarchist had invited me to do some guest posts on his blog and I fell in love with how wordpress works. My how time flies when you are having fun! I can’t believe I have been offending people for six years now. LOL. I have tried to be as nondiscriminatory as possible in who I offend, whether it be protestants, anti-Mormons, LDS apologists, Mainstream Mormons, my fellow bloggers in the LDS fringe vertical and even the Snufferites.

The Goal of OneWhoIsWatching   

My primary goal over the years has been to drive people into a much deeper study of the scriptures and the true history of the church. I have never had a large readership and I am pretty sure I never will because very few people can handle the cold hard truth. Most people visit this blog for a short period of time and then run for cover and therapy. Nevertheless, I have met a few kindred spirits who are also watching. I have had some wonderful feedback from time to time from people who have taken the challenge to search the scriptures and delve deep into a literal, non-correlated, spirit-led reading of God’s holy and infallible word. Here is the most recent feedback that I have received. His first comment came in my “about” section because I cannot turn the comments off in that part of the blog: “Watcher My eyes have been opened. I have read through almost everything you have written here and have delved headlong into the scriptures as a result. The insight provided by the Atonement Statute and JS’s intercessory offering explain so much. The Spirit has testified to my soul of the truthfulness…I am now watching.”   In a follow up conversation by personal email this same person calling themselves “T”, had this to say:

  “I don’t know that I have had quite as spiritual an experience with the scriptures as when studying the intercessory offering of JS et al. It has been amazing..The problem with losing your naivete regarding the modern church is that one has to reconstruct faith based upon the revelations and scriptures and systematically identify and discard all the distracting dross. The precepts of men are so prevalent in what we preach, and yet few notice. It is without irony that we hear “follow the prophet” repeatedly in general conference, and are assured that he will never lead us astray. I never noticed the idolatry until recently. The wonderful thing is that I am now focused on Christ, and it feels so good.As I have been reconstructing my faith from the scriptures, it has become clear that everything that Joseph did or said after the pivot point of the intercessory offering (April 3, 1836) should be subject to a double dose of serious scrutiny. This particularly relates to what goes on in the temple. As you have rightly pointed out the “endowment ceremony” that is currently practiced bears no resemblance to the true endowment of the Holy Melchizedek Priesthood, being called up by the voice of the father. I can find no scriptural justification for this at all….Awaiting the return of the servants…”
I praise God almighty for testimonies from people like “T” who are experiencing a spiritual awakening in God’s holy word.During the last six years I have been the recipient of numerous emails and blog comments like that one and I get giddy every time I get one. . One of these days I am going to do an entire post containing some of the amazing testimonies that people have shared about their personal awakening in reading the scriptures.
. I don’t take credit for any of those testimonies. . PRAISE BE TO GOD! . I am a pathetic, dross, mortal just like everybody else. I want to make that perfectly clear. . Whenever I start getting full of myself the good Lord humbles me real quickly and he reminds me that I am the back end of a horse. Whenever truth emerges on this blog it is because of the glory and condescension of a merciful God. When something foolish and untrue finds its place on this blog, it comes from my mortal, prideful heart and mind. . Your job as a reader of this blog is to discern which is which. . There are signs of the times all around us. It is showtime my friends. . The great work is about to begin and there is not one of us that will not be surprised at how the event is going to unfold.
 Dr. Hales ad Dr. Smith Respond to Grant Palmer

To celebrate my anniversary I thought I would antagonize some LDS apologists, so I went over to MormonInterpreter to see if I could shake things up a little bit. Dr Brian Hales and Dr Gregory Smith had recently posted an article called “A Response to Grant Palmer’s ‘Sexual Allegations against Joseph Smith and the Beginnings of Polygamy in Nauvoo” Grant Palmer is an ex-missionary and ex-seminary instructor who became an ex-Mormon. He lost his faith when he became aware of some controversial historical issues. He was not able to withstand the storm of the adversary because he had built his faith on a sandy foundation. Had he searched as deeply in the word of God, looking for reasons to believe and expecting the promised manifestation of the spirit, as he did the history of the church looking for reasons to reject the restoration, he may have withstood the storm of the adversary. Of course the game is not over. Pray for him.

How does Revisionary Interpretation of Scripture Take Place?

It was actually a pretty good article that Brian Hales and Gregory Smith wrote. I learned some interesting things in reading it. Dr. Brian Hales has apparently made some serious scratch, passing gas during surgery  and he has used some of his fortune to pay a full time researcher to gather up everything he can find about the topic of polygamy in LDS church history. In my opinion, many of his views about polygamy appear to have been formulated whilst he was standing too close to the gas dispenser. With the research he has paid a researcher to accumulate, he has written several books to promote his views on polygamy. Because if his research, he and his friend Gregory Smith were able to write a critical review of Grant Palmer’s article about Joseph Smith’s involvement in polygamy. Although I enjoyed the article by Hales and Smith, I found a very disturbing attempt by them to participate in a blatantly false, revisionist interpretation of section 132, so I thought I would call them on it. Here is my first response to the article Here is Brian’s reply Here is my response to his reply I must say that I am impressed that the folks over at the MormonInterpreter (Formerly FARMS) are allowing my comments now. They used to ban many of my comments. Perhaps it is a sign of the times. In my comments I mentioned Brian’s debate at Sunstone with an LDS feminist and how impressed I was with how Brian conducted himself during the debate. In my next life I am going to be as classy as he is in responding to my detractors.

The Kingdom is Currently Prevailing over the Kingdoms of the World?!?!

During our exchange Brian accused people like me, that are critical of the church, of not helping the kingdom to roll forth and he grossly misinterprets the prophetic dream Joseph had about the kingdom rolling forth, that is recorded in section 65 to justify his declaration. Naturally he assumes that the LDS church is the kingdom that the prophet Daniel saw. He is apparently unfamiliar with the old testament prophecies regarding the kingdom that would roll forth in power,  breaking in pieces all of the kingdoms of the world. He is unaware of this because he is apparently not very well read in the scriptures and he has been brainwashed by the correlated teachings of the corporate church. This is the problem I have noticed with many of the so-called scholars that attempt to defend the church. A person who is not intimately familiar with the history of the LDS restoration has a very difficult time contextually understanding prophecy and even doctrine in the scriptures, particularly in the D&C. Conversely someone who is not intimately familiar with the four standard works cannot understand the context behind the bizarre things that took place during the history of the church. A person who has a busy medical practice has little time to delve deeply into the word of God. He doesn’t even have the time to do his own research of church history for the books he writes.

LDS Apologetics Has Changed

I have been thinking about how much things have changed in the world of LDS apologetics during the last few decades. In the early days, Mormon apologists  only had to deal with a handful of prominent anti-Mormon critics, most of who were evangelical Christians. Those were the good old days when the apologists would circle the wagons and defend the faith against protestants that had a differing view of Biblical Christianity. As they constructed their replies to critics, they were largely catering to both critics and members of the church who were largely ignorant of the true history of the church and unqualified to discern the veracity of the articles that were defending the faith. LDS apol 1 Things have changed! Now critics of the church are much more knowledgeable about the history of the church and many mainstream members are also becoming much more knowledgeable. I have noticed that every day Christians are now taking a greater interesting in parsing out problems Mormonism, not just protestant scholars. People such as this guy and this guy are actually doing critical book reviews of the Book of Mormon on the Internet. The Mormon Moment fueled by Mitt Romney and proposition 8 has created a very negative hyper-focus on Mormonism. Additionally, in today’s world, LDS apologists have much more to deal with than just outsiders that view Biblical Christianity differently than Mormonism and claim that Mormons are not Christian. They are now getting bombarded from all directions. Much of what LDS apologetics must deal with now, is coming from Mormons who are having a crisis of faith. Some of them leave the church while others stay and become vocal from within. John Dehlin is a good example of someone who has chosen to retain his membership so that he can be critical of the church from within the ranks of the membership. Then there are those of us blogger that passionately believe in the restored gospel, but are challenging the truth claims and other teachings of the apostate corporate church. This means that traditional LDS apologetics are being attacked from without and from WITHIN the faith! The Internet has greatly changed things. The Google apostasy has completely changed the dynamic as thousands of Latter days Saints are being bombarded with controversial doctrinal and historical information on a daily basis. In the early days of my blogging career, it seemed like there was just a handful of blogs that were defending the true principles of the restoration while challenging the teachings of the modern corporate church. LDS apol 2 In the last few years however, there has been a proliferation in new blogs that are all challenging the false teachings of Modern Mormonism, while still affirming the authenticity and truthfulness of the LDS restoration movement that took place 180 years ago. There is clearly an awakening taking place among members of the church. Sadly, many of the new blogs are authored by Snufferites. Tim Malone has done a good job of cataloging many of these new blogs in his blogroll on the side panel of  of his blog. His blog is an interesting case study because for years, he was an ardent supporter of the corporate church, but has recently changed his views drastically as a result of the Snufferite Movement. In the past, traditional LDS apologists at FAIR and FARMS ignored those of us that were challenging the revisionary history and doctrines of the modern corporate church. It will be interesting to see if they eventually feel the need to start specifically addressing our articles the way that they have written responses to the papers written by critics like Wesley P. Walters, Ed Decker and Michael Marquardt and ex-Mormon critics like Grant Palmer. [I just noticed that  LDS apologist Dr. Brian Hales has started commenting on the PureMormonism blog trying to engage some Snufferites and other disenfranchised Saints, which I think is wonderful! I think he is going to find a different situation speaking to them than he has found speaking to the Grant Palmers of the world ] Interestingly, many long term, professional critics of Mormonism like Wesley P. Walters and Michael Marquardt, who have never believed in the LDS restoration, are actually softening in their criticisms of Joseph Smith and Mormonism while ex-Mormon critics are becoming much more vocal and vicious. I was somewhat shocked at the following admission of Waters and Marquardt in their publication of “Inventing Mormonism” (A title which is very misleading): “Having been involved in our own quest for the past thirty years searching archives for clues to this and other mysteries, we have long since abandoned the simple prophet-fraud dichotomy that others still find so compelling. Our intent is to understand, not to debunk. The question of volition is open-ended. Smith believed that he spoke with supernatural beings, and he produced impressive transcripts of interviews with them. Whether he actually did is ultimately a matter of faith.”

False Prophets can be a Blessing

Even false prophets that arise amongst us do a wonderful work in getting people to begin searching the scriptures. The problem of course is that many of their followers begin to rely on the false prophets to interpret what the passages are saying. At the end of the day, those who are predestined for life and salvation eventually see the deception and move on, those that have been ordained for darkness continue on in the deception created by the false prophet. It is unfortunate that those of us in this blog niche have not come to a unity of the faith on many issues. Sadly, many of my contemporaries in this niche are shamelessly promoting the Snufferite Movement. I doubt that a unity of faith will happen until the light shines forth and God’s anointed servants return to the vineyard. Nevertheless, I think that cumulatively, we have all been inspired to bring to light many issues that are causing people to think, ponder and pray about the current state of the corporate church and prepare themselves for the great work that is coming. Most importantly, these blogs are getting people to search the scriptures and re-evaluate their beliefs that they have gained from the correlated lessons given in Church. While I disagree with some of the things my fellow fringe bloggers teach, I am very aware that they are doing a great work in waking people up. There are now countless blogs out there that are taking the church to task and challenging the idolatry in the false doctrine of “follow the brethren, they will never lead you astray“.

The Rockster is a Rock Star

Recently a very good friend of mine experienced a severe crisis of faith which almost destroyed his faith in everything, including Christ. It began when he read “Mormon Crucifixion” and then he read the article by Jeremy Runnells, who, like Grant Palmer, had built his faith on a sandy foundation. Jeremy’s article is basically a summary of all of the most compelling criticisms that have ever been leveled about the church. He claims his paper is about why he lost the testimony of the Gospel. I would suggest that you cannot lose something you never had. Like Grant Palmer, Jeremy apparently used his energy looking for problems instead of searching the scriptures and looking for the manifestation of God’s spirit, therefore, when he came across some disturbing controversial issues pertaining to church history and doctrine, his religious worldview imploded. Sadly, this friend of mine that had a crisis of faith, had little interest in reading anything I have written to help him during his crisis because he had known me personally for many years and he realizes what a pathetic clown I am. (familiarity breeds contempt) Anyway, on with the story, one day this close friend of mine that was having a crisis of faith called me to chat about things and I heard the sound of hope in his voice. He informed me that he had found a renewed hope and had made a commitment to get back to the basics and reconsider the life of Christ and his ministry. I asked him why he was feeling better about things and he said he had just listened to the Rock Waterman interview on Mormon Stories. It was just what he needed to hear to guide him into a more positive paradigm change. It played a pivotal role in helping him to transition from faith crisis, to hope and renewal. He is now delving deeper into the scriptures. You rock, Rock, but Praise be to God. God is working through lots of people and it is important that we all give credit to God and realize what clowns we all are.

Miscellaneous Musings #10 Ferguson is Close to the “Center Place”

Miscellaneous Musings #9 The Mystery of the Shemitah

Miscellaneous Musings #8 Sunstone Symposium 2014

Miscellaneous Musings # 7 The Kinderhook Plates were Authentic

Miscellaneous Musings # 6 Jeremy Runnells

Miscellaneous Musings # 5 Phineas Young

Miscellaneous Musings #4

Miscellaneous Musings #3 Kingdom of the Jews (3/7/2014)

Miscellaneous Musings #2 (2/28/2014)

Miscellaneous Musings #1 (2/11/2014)


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